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3161  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Skydrive Mining. on: December 28, 2013, 03:13:53 AM
where did you heard such a idiotic thing.
Please do try to be polite. An ignorant question is by far not the worst thing someone could post here— save the hate for malware and scams. Smiley

Besides, ignorance is curable.
3162  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: getrawtransaction block idx 9 : "No information available about transaction" on: December 28, 2013, 02:30:09 AM
That coin has been spent, getrawtransaction only returns on txn which are not entirely spent unless you run with txindex=1.
3163  Other / Meta / Recent posts excluding Alt coins (and newbies?) on: December 27, 2013, 11:14:54 PM
The recent posts list is pretty useless to me because it's always full of altcoins and newbies threads that I'm not interested in... Any thoughts on being able to filter it? (or— like usual— does this functionality already exist?)
3164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Biggest Flaw with Bitcoin that Could Crash the Entire System on: December 27, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
Don't be so sure. What if someone gains 51% of the hash-power and steals all the top-100 wallets.
This isn't how Bitcoin works.

Bitcoin is first and foremost a trustless system predicated on autonomous validation. We presume our peers are _evil_ and we verify the rules for ourselves independently from what our peers claim.  After all, if we can't trust central banks and democratic governments to manage their fiat how could we possible trust a bunch of sketchy, anonymous, self-selecting miners?

Unfortunately, there is no way to autonomously validate _order_ in a decentralized system, so we use mining to decide on an order, but thats all. Ordering control is powerful, but no majority of miners— no matter how large— can just randomly rob wallets.  A miner that produces rule violating blocks is equivalent to a miner that has shut down: their blocks are nearly costlessly ignored by all nodes.

Strictly limiting the behavior of miners is part of what keeps their incentives aligned. As you note— if they could just selectively rob a few people, they might well get away with it. But fortunately the system can be— and is— built so that those sorts of attacks are simply not available to miners.


FWIW, the cited article falsely claims the quoted text was removed from the weaknesses page— it wasn't.  I really suggest ignoring "cryptocurrency news" it's a really spammy outfit.
3165  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FIXED] My both Antminers stopped working !!! on: December 27, 2013, 07:42:28 AM
I said nothing about GPU's. I was referring to anecdotes I have heard that mining with ASIC's on P2Pool was not optimal vs other pools.
Thanks for the LOL. Helpful and classy.
You've been misinformed. The GPU comment was a "what the heck do you _think_ is mining on P2Pool", and yes, I was laughing at people's capacity to buy into FUD and misinformation. Don't take it too personally.
3166  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How can relay nodes be rewarded? on: December 27, 2013, 05:05:55 AM
Stuff in this space has been proposed many times before, but inevitably the proposals end up drastically increasing the size of transactions (and thus the blockchain).

The most technically interesting tool for compensating transaction relayers that I've seen is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290971.0.

But I don't know that any such scheme would be interesting, at it would just encourage miners to run huge numbers of sybil ingress nodes.
3167  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FIXED] My both Antminers stopped working !!! on: December 27, 2013, 03:48:36 AM
and P2Pool is not optimal for ASICs IIRC :|
LOL. You think P2Pool has 150 TH/s of ... GPUs? Tongue

P2Pool works absolutely fantastically on most asics.  My avlons are at about 115% PPS on P2pool (both from reviving fees and because p2pool appears to do better than expected, potentially because of the faster block relaying giving it an advantage over other pools).

Sadly, the little CPUs on the antminers combined with their old cgminer version is absolutely taxed beyond belief, and they don't work fantastically on P2Pool right now— stale rate roughly 5x the avalons. I've been nagging them to post their firmware sources since they started shipping products so I could fix it and I guess they've been too busy.
3168  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: December 25, 2013, 05:18:44 PM
Those who bought the first batch without proof of a tapeout knew they were buying into hot air, but greed overwhelmed any rational consideration of doing business on reasonable terms.
Nah, run the numbers on what return was expected even if everything had gone according to plan. No one who can multiply bought in here because of an abundance of greed, it was never _that_ attractive an offer. The deal needed sweeteners like MPP, refund in BTC, in person meetings, and a partnership with an experienced design house before it sounded attractive.
3169  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HASHFAST warranty just TEN DAYS after delivery on: December 25, 2013, 05:12:16 PM
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I'm not suggesting that people overclock this or any chip. But we all know - some people do overclock. Let's not pretend they don't.
Uhhh. If they don't ship with a firmware that enables this, very, very few people will perform the low level hacking to do so.
3170  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: December 25, 2013, 11:15:11 AM
A slightly OT example: For those following along at home who don't get why HF batch 1 customers are so unhappy about their "october" batch 1 units,  compare: Instead of paying 55 BTC months ago for a 400GH HF batch 1 unit with uncertain delivery they could have sat comfortably on their coin and today ordered 3.1 TH/s of antminer for immediate delivery for the same price (or just got 360GH/s for 6.3 BTC).  Even figuring it in terms of USD, the little antminer devices are lower cost per GH/s than hashfast batch 1 devices which are still not shipping.


3171  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: Advanced Mining Technology (AMT) on: December 25, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
Man, I was about to yell at y'all for being offtopic and not talking about trolls... until I noticed they'd renamed the thread. I've fixed the name back. Next time the OP abuses their ability to edit the thread title for a long established thread to change it to something unrelated, please report it to the moderators.
3172  Other / Meta / Re: Proposal: Highly ignored uses should have their posts less visible, with opacity on: December 25, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
Begging other people to hit ignore too is kinda ineffective. But I appreciate the comment about Reddit being a circle jerk greatly. I'd rather have more noise than turn out like reddit. Sad
3173  Bitcoin / Pools / Do not ask altcoin questions, they will be moved to the altcoin subforum. [n/t] on: December 25, 2013, 10:20:20 AM
Do not ask altcoin questions, they will be moved to the altcoin subforum.
3174  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: December 25, 2013, 09:40:17 AM
plenty of scoundrels in business..  where ya been?
Incompetence and malice are often darn hard to distinguish. Keep in mind I'm responding to someone who was suggesting that hashfast was actually going to ship a box of rocks.
3175  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Icebreaker - Hashfast Employee? on: December 25, 2013, 08:45:14 AM
I've invited Mr. BREAKER to identify himself.

Sometimes I've wondered— when we've had really extreme over the top "shills", like in this case— if they really weren't double-secret shills pretending to shill just to make their love-object look repulsive. I guess intrigue seldom goes that deep in reality, but its something to consider.

Irritating in any case.
3176  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: December 25, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
I don't think anyone really thinks the video was faked— it was pretty clearly the hashfast pcb.  Though I'd certainly like to see the video again. Care to re-post it iCEBREAKER or is being helpful not part of your repertoire?
3177  Bitcoin / Hardware / In which iCEBREAKER fails to read a post that doesn't support his premise on: December 25, 2013, 08:20:08 AM
I'm afraid you missed the subsequent:

Well figured I'd post an update, after some more communication with cointerra (with many thanks to aerobatic as well for helping) they have made good on coming to a happy resolution for me.  I'm glad that they made it right, and will be paying for another order shortly.  Now to figure out how I'm going to power all these units I have headed my way.
I didn't however, thus my comment.

Is it just me or is the only irate person in the CoinTerra thread the tireless promoter of a competitor?
I never claimed to be "irate."  That's your imagination, grossly exaggerating things again.   Smiley
I apologize for my assumption, please allow me to revise:
As far as I can tell only person currently expressing any form of actively negative view of CoinTerra in this thread is a tireless promoter of Hashfast who is not a CoinTerra customer.
Is that better?
Cheers.
3178  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: December 25, 2013, 08:13:29 AM
They will probably get one unit working in a broken state before December 31st so they can claim the deadline was met.
Ha. Some people expressed that kind of pessimism up-thread and it was rapidly pointed out that doing something that overly dishonest would be a Christmas present since it would remove any doubt over if they were acting in good faith or not. There is no way thats going to happen.

Probably the hardest thing to come to grips with is that the world isn't really stuffed full of manically cackling villains— though I suppose there are a few.  The mess for batch 1 HF customers is probably not a result of some great evil plot, and they almost certainly aren't about to ship miners full of kryptonite, regardless of how awesome a scene it would make "Bitcoin: The Movie".

If you're trying to guess what might happen, you'd probably be best of imagining a bunch of well intentioned people getting caught behind and making a heroic effort to make it all right. Even if thats not completely true, you can be darn sure they'll do their best to make it appear to be.
3179  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast thread derailment part 3 on: December 25, 2013, 08:07:33 AM
You let posters get away with many things on the HashFast thread you actively disallow on the Cointerra thread.  That's hypocrisy.[/size]
There aren't any irritated CoinTerra customers, not a single one— as far as I can tell, and I even asked. CoinTerra has, apparently, made right by their customers— at least for now.

The only thing I disallowed there was your all caps red bolded whatever-the-heck-that-was and people bringing other vendors into the discussion (which was, the same thing I did in the HF threads).

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How much absurd speculation and FUD about 'shipping empty boxes,' 'is iCEBREAKER actually Eduardo,' and the like must we be subjected to before you lift a finger?

Okay, so who are you then? There is no mystery who I am. I think some transparency might resolve some of your complaints far better than what appears your preferred direction— of silencing anyone who is concerned, afraid, or angry from expressing their irritation or uncertainty.
3180  Other / Meta / Re: (PETITION) The act of BUYING/SELLING Bitcointalk.org Accounts (Poll) on: December 25, 2013, 06:08:55 AM
I can just imagine one of the big ASIC sellers , coming here with their hundreds of purchased accounts and down-voting this Tongue
You mean up-voting. "Banning" account selling wouldn't stop it— it would only make it more effective because then fewer people would believe its happening.

The best we could probably do is have an "account recovery code"... every account gets a magic code which can't be changed, which can be used to claw back the account at any time. This would make selling accounts slightly less safe because people could claw them back after payment was made.
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