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521  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Vonis MA terhadap Sambo cs tepat? on: August 16, 2023, 12:30:48 PM
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saya ingat betul teman saya ngomong pasti sambo cs bakal lolos dari hukuman mati dan rupanya betul, MA menjadi pemberi keputusan terakhir atas vonis sambi cs, dan hal menarik yang saya lihat, pemerintah pun tidak memiliki kekuatan penuh atas dorongan untuk membuat sambo cs di hukum seberat beratnya, apalagi MA dan MK punya otoritas hukum masing2. sebenarnya kekuatan rakyat juga bisa mendorong vonis hukum sambo cs seberatnya beratnya dengan demo berjilid2 namun saya melihat itu tidak terjadi, hukum memang adalah senjata bagi yang menggunakannya.
Kalau pemerintah menurutku tidak bisa mengintervensi urusan hukum apa pun, karena Presiden Jokowi sudah jelas mengatakan kalau dia sangat menghormat keputusan MA. Pun, kekuatan rakyat juga tidak bakal bisa mengubah keputusan final tersebut, karena muara atau akhir dari peradilan ini ada pada Hakim Agung. Sedangkan MK, menurutku tidak ada sangkut pautnya dengan keputusan ini, karena MK sebagai Mahkamah Kosntitusi hanya bisa memutuskan soal aturan dan perundang-udangan saja, bukan padah Ranah Hukum Pidana seperti yang terjadi pada Sambo CS
Siapa yang tahu ada atau tidaknya intervensi dari pihak pemerintah, setelah MA membuat putusan pada Sambo CS menimbulkan banyak spekulasi adanya unsur politik didalamnya. Mereka yang berada pihak yang menguntungkan jelas akan menghormati keputusan MA dan menganggap putusan ini sudah adil, sementara yang berdiri di pihak korban, keluarga, kerabat dan seluruh elemen masyarakat yang mengerti hukum menganggap putusan ini tidak adil berdasarkan kronologis kasus yang terjadi. Perubahan hukuman yang diputuskan MA telah melemahkan atau putusan majelis hakim pengadilan negeri Jakarta Selatan tidak sah padahal hakim pengadilan tinggi menganggap putusan majelis hakim telah benar berdasarkan pertimbangan menyeluruh.
522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 15, 2023, 12:46:25 PM
Actually Real Madrid has a striker, it's Joselu. Obviously he's not as popular as Mbappe, Lewandowski, Kane, Osimhen etc, but Ancelotti isn't afraid to sign him, so he's used to be replace Benzema's position regardless what the result is.

There's no big hope Real Madrid will win in this season, reaching quarter final is already good enough for the current squad.
Joselu will only be a complement in the Real Madrid squad and if to make him a starter, it seems Ancelotti still doubts that. It can be seen from pre-season matches to domestic league competitions that Ancelotti has never dared to use 3 attackers in his formation and he prefers to put Vini and Rodrygo in every game. The results can sometimes be good or bad, depending on how we observe it. I think a Champions League quarter-final with the current squad is already a pretty good achievement, but if they get to the final it will sound like nonsense.
Of course Ancelotti never dared to put up three strikers because of the limited number of players who can operate in that position, Ancelotti very often uses a two striker scheme in pre-season matches and the first match played by Real Madrid in La Liga. Joselu is only a substitute player in the Real Madrid squad because Ancelotti relies more on Vinicius and Rodrygo on the front lines, his arrival is only a complement to the Real Madrid squad.
Real Madrid needs to fight hard to survive in the Champions League with limited players in the striker position. Somehow I doubt Real Madrid can last long in the Champions League with the current squad. If Vinicius is injured or Rodrygo or both are injured at the same time, it will be disastrous for Real Madrid.
523  Economy / Speculation / Re: The time has finally come...??? on: August 15, 2023, 12:35:27 PM
Usually Bitcoin trends often repeat and in my opinion this can be seen if the price is difficult to pass $ 30k, autumn usually many people need cash so the best thing is to sell Bitcoin, besides the Halving Day effect that will occur in the early 2024 hopefully can give encouragement strong so that prices skyrocketed again.
Making a reliable prediction about the future price of bitcoin is no easy task. Bitcoin price predictions vary widely, with some predicting it will reach highs while others believe it will stay close to current levels or even decline slightly. An important point here is that bitcoin does not make its all time highs every time because then bitcoin goes into a bear market or a cold market. Then years later the market cooled down and when the halving came around the bitcoin market started to go up and down but hopefully something will happen by 2024.
A prediction can be made by anyone based on research conducted and experiences that have occurred in the past, but who can make predictions with 100% accuracy, it is clear that this does not exist until now. You can just make your own version of predictions, as well as me. I never care about predictions that anyone makes, almost all predictions that are made always have the same goal but only the numbers are different. I am not too guided by predictions, my belief is that the movement of Bitcoin will reach better numbers than what is being traded at this time, I will collect little by little to get a share when the ship is anchored.
524  Economy / Economics / Re: How to developed your capital on: August 15, 2023, 09:51:12 AM
Regulating financial management, such as spending less than income, needs to be implemented within each individual to maintain financial stability. There are several factors that limit the ability of young people to develop capital, there are those who still follow their desire to live a glamorous life in an eccentric style, there are those who like to spend money in gambling establishments and have fun with their friends in nightclubs. They do all that because they don't have life dependents or their mindset is still just having fun.
Of this percentage, there are still some young people who dedicate their lives to developing capital in various ways. Their mature mindset will save their life or be guaranteed when they are old with the wealth that has been accumulated over the years.
525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin really not for everyone? on: August 15, 2023, 09:34:42 AM
Bitcoin is only for people who accept Bitcoin, no matter how hard you try to explain all the advantages of Bitcoin to people who are still closed to bitcoin, they will never believe everything you say. Awareness of Bitcoin will grow naturally when they are aware of all the advantages and conveniences of the transactions offered, that's when they will become part of the people who have accepted the presence of Bitcoin.

There are always pros and cons to everything related to the place where their assets are stored, the principles of different people will produce a beauty that will be debated for those who accept and reject its presence. Bitcoin will never die even though some people cannot accept its presence, but the great people in the world with the wealth they have have kept some of their money in Bitcoin. I feel lucky to know Bitcoin at this age, even though I haven't made much from investing in Bitcoin, the presence of Bitcoin has made me more active in setting aside money to save in Bitcoin.
526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 18, holding my bitcoin and looking forward :) on: August 15, 2023, 09:03:18 AM
Why should you target selling your Bitcoin at the end of 2024 or the end of 2025, then what if at that time the price of bitcoin is in a Bearish phase. Start setting targets at a price benchmark not based on time, when the price reaches the desired number, you can sell it even though your investment is still very young.

At the age of 18, you don't have many dependents that you need to bear, you only need to finance your personal needs as a bachelor, you can save the rest in Bitcoin. The research you have done on Bitcoin has shaped your character to believe more in Bitcoin than Fiat Money, I like the conclusions you draw. Continue to increase the amount of your investment instead of keeping fiat money in the form of savings, you can get big profits when the price has broken the ATH that was achieved before.
527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 14, 2023, 04:10:43 PM
Manchester United lately have won every game against Wolves so it should be only natural for most of us to expect a win tonight from Manchester United.I only hope they don't screw up like they did in the beginning of last season where they started with a 0-4 lost game to Brighton which left all of us super surprised,so this is Premier League and these kind of things can happen here and in fact surprise results happen all the time.The good thing though is that usually through the Monday night games and I am talking about last season we can count surprise results with the finger of one hand meaning most games have ended as predicted.
The last four meetings between the two teams have always been won by Manchester United, Wolverhampton couldn't do anything against Manchester United, let alone win, draws have been difficult to achieve in the last two seasons when these two teams met. This season Manchester United will be even stronger based on their movements in the transfer market, victory will be in favor of Manchester United when judged in terms of the quality of the players both teams have.
Manchester United will dominate this match especially as they act as the host, Ten Hag will direct his men to win three points in the first match as the initial capital in undergoing a new season full of challenges.

528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 14, 2023, 03:58:31 PM
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Xavi looked completely disappointed with the draw and I think he certainly really hopes to get a win in their first match. The strategy carried out by Getafe really frustrated Barcelona, it can be seen that they play aggressively and do not hesitate to play rough. This effort seems to have paid off and made Barcelona's rhythm of play not work well.
What happened during the 90 minutes of the match was as prepared by Getafe, they had planned this strategy to hinder the development of Barcelona rhythm of play. Disappointment was clearly visible on Xavi face after several incidents that occurred on the pitch, Xavi excessive protest over the referee's decision which he felt was in favor of Getafe earned him a red card.
This is just the beginning, Barcelona still has a lot of time to improve everything. A draw isn't too bad for Barcelona considering that Getafe implemented a strategy that killed the movement of Barcelona's players with rough play.
529  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Vonis MA terhadap Sambo cs tepat? on: August 14, 2023, 03:46:18 PM
Khusus untuk hukuman Sambo dari sebelumnya divonis hukuman mati kemudian menjadi Seumur Hidup tidak akan mendapat keringanan dalam bentuk remisi, persentase remisi tidak bisa dihitung pada hukuman yang tidak disebut dengan angka. Berbeda dengan hukuman yang divonis pada Putri Candrawathi (10 tahun), Kuat Ma'ruf (10 tahun) dan Ricky Rizal (8 tahun), ketiga tersangka ini masih mendapat remisi kerena dapat dihitung persentase remisi yang diperoleh, satu-satunya keringanan yang bisa diperoleh Sambo yang divonis hukuman Seumur Hidup melalui pemberian grasi dari presiden. Kita lihat saja sejauh mana drama ini akan berlangsung, jika presiden memberi grasi pada Sambo, mungkin ada sesuatu dibalik semua ini atau ada yang ingin dilindungi dari nyanyian Sambo di pengadilan.
Tapi saya masih mengira remisi tetap akan diberikan mengingat posisi Sambo terakhir di kepolisian sudah tinggi. Saya juga berpikir bahwa Sambo ini memiliki semua rahasia orang-orang yang ada di belakangnya dan jika mereka tidak mengabulkan keinginan Sambo, saya kira Sambo mungkin akan "bernyanyi" sehingga ini membuat mereka yang di belakang Sambo akan khawatir. Tapi entahlah, semuanya bisa terjadi di negara Konoha ini kalo kata para netijen di luar sana Grin

Mungkin bukan presiden sekarang ini tapi program remisi atau grasi itu pasti akan diberikan kepada napi yang bisa berkelakuan baik selama mereka di penjara. Mungkin pemberian remisi atau grasi itu tidak akan diberitakan di publik sehingga tidak ada yang tahu. Atau bisa jadi hukumannya akan langsung dikurangi beberapa tahun. Semuanya bisa terjadi Grin
Sampai saat ini semua yang anda pikir masih sebatas spekulasi, biasa terjadi, basa saja enggak.
Imo, jika presiden memberi grasi pada hukuman Sambo, jelas akan menimbulkan kericuhan publik mengingat banyak pihak menyesalkan keputusan MA yang terkesan berpihak sebelah.

Cepat atau lambat semuanya akan terbongkar atau dengan kata lain sepintar-pintar seseorang menyimpan durian akan tercium baunya. Kalau presiden baru yang terpilih di pemilu 2024 dari pihak simoncong putih, mungkin asumsi agan bisa terjadi karena mereka masih satu jamaah. Jika yang terpilih daei lawan politik partai yang berkuasa sekarang, kecil kemungkinan program itu bisa terjadi.
530  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [DISKUSI] Hukum Zakat Bitcoin on: August 14, 2023, 02:51:05 PM
tetapi Bitcoin kan memiliki nilai, bisa ditukar menjadi rupiah.
Yap, nilai tersebutlah yang bisa kita hitung supaya jelas apakah hasil yang didapat tersebut sudah mencapai Hisap belum selama setahun.
Benar, itu maksud saya. Nilai yang didapat dari jumlah total bitcoin yang tersimpan selama 1 tahun dikalikan 2,5% yang harus dikeluarkan zakat jika jumlah tersebut sudah mencapai hisab.

Kalau alasannya berdasarkan kias masih bisa diterima, tetapi kalau ada yang berhak menerima zakat di negeri sendiri atau orang-orang yang ada disekitar kehidupan kita yang masih makan dua kali sehari kenapa tidak dikasih buat mereka saja (hitung-hitungan membantu mereka yang masih kesulitan ekonomi) daripada dikirim ke luar negeri.
Penjelasan saya di atas itu menjelaskan komentar dari bots1. jadi kalau mau disambung dengan asumsi baru sampeyan ini, maka jelas tidak akan ketemu. Mungkin kalau memang berniat betul untuk memberikan zakat bitcoin kepada yang berhak di dalam negeri, sampeyan bisa menghubungi Blossom Finance, sebuah perusahaan pembiayaan syariah dari Indonesia. Di arahkan saja mereka ini ke tempat dimana menurut sampeyan berhak menerima zakat tersebut.
Ok, dapat dimengerti. Ane hanya menambahkan tentang memindahkan zakat dari suatu negeri ke negeri lain, jika membawa maslahat maka hukumnya boleh.
Jika bitcoin yang saya miliki sudah mencapai hisab, saya akan memilih menunaikan zakat sendiri tanpa menghubungi pihak pembiayaan syariah seperti Blossom Finance. Selama zakat yang ditunaikan sesuai dengan ketentuan syariah Islam, saya pikir hukumnya tetap sah.
531  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: As an undergraduate, is it advisable to invest my trustfund in Bitcoin? on: August 14, 2023, 02:25:22 PM
The first step you have to take is to find out the ins and outs associated with Bitcoin including the potential profit and loss. It takes extensive knowledge to convince yourself to use something new in your life, learning to be the only way to make decisions before you decide invest in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick scheme, if your friend only explains to you about the profit you can get, then he also needs to explain to you about the risks that can occur. Luckily you found the Bitcointalk forum, before you start your first investment in Bitcoin, you need to find out all the important knowledge related to Bitcoin.
532  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The things that improve a quality post on: August 14, 2023, 02:12:11 PM
Regardless of the user's rank, if the posts and topics they make meet the requirements of a quality, constructive and informative post, a user like this deserves to be called a quality user. Anyone still has time to become a quality poster, members who have just joined this forum need deep knowledge of how to make quality posts. Those who have joined for a long time but are still having difficulty ranking up, still have the opportunity to change old habits from spammers to quality posters.

The quality of users on the forum is not judged by account rank, not always Newbie (Spammer) and Legendary (Good Member) opinions. Apart from some of the motivations that you have described here, those who still find it difficult to improve the quality of their posts need to read some of the other motivations in this Thread Newbie's Guide to Getting Merit (Proven) to increase account rank.
533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 13, 2023, 03:17:21 PM
PSG have strong finances, but they have to learn how to spend. They have all the top stars but don't have a great coach. A team doesn't need to have many stars to be strong. The first requirement is to need a good coach. We have seen PSG under coach Galtier. Internally there are many contradictions, disorderly formation, and not yet forming a unified collective. Currently, PSG has appointed Luis Enrique as the club's head coach. But in my opinion, Enrique cannot revive PSG at this point. PSG is in dire need of a talented coach right now.
Luis Enrique is a quality coach, but everything takes time and process.
What PSG has gone through should be a lesson learned, so far they have relied too much on abundant finances to win achievements and in reality they have failed.
For example like Manchester City in the past, they also have a lot of money but to be able to excel they also have to go through a long process.

PSG should now put aside the Mbappe problem first and focus on the match because the league has started and the draw in PSG's match is bad enough in my opinion, playing at home and against a team whose quality is below them but PSG can't score even 1 goal, I'm very disappointed on PSG's performance in this first game and I think PSG have to do a lot more work
Of course everything needs time to go through the process of forming a mature squad, PSG must give time and trust to Luis Enrique to overhaul his squad like Guardiola did at Manchester City. Luis Enrique has just started a new challenge at PSG, a draw in the first match cannot be concluded about the direction of PSG journey this season.

As has happened in previous seasons, PSG may dominate Ligue 1, but in the Champions League they are still having difficulties, especially since the club's current situation is unstable after the Mbappe transfer process is still experiencing problems. PSG must focus on the competition that has just started, they need to forget about Mbappe who has no desire to play for the team. The less than optimal results achieved must be evaluated in the next match in order to increase the confidence of the players.
534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 13, 2023, 03:01:12 PM
Both Chelsea and Liverpool got less than good achievements last season, it's just that Liverpool was able to improve their performance at the end of the season and they managed to get 5th place, while Chelsea still has to struggle with their slump. I think this will be a tough match for Chelsea and Liverpool because they both certainly want to start the season with high expectations. So both Chelsea and Liverpool will definitely insist on getting the victory.
Liverpool were once the best team. A team like Manchester City could not beat Liverpool. But currently the condition of the team is not very good. The new season has started and the position of the team can be understood by watching a few matches.
The strengths that have just been formed by Chelsea and Liverpool will be tested in the Big Match match in their first week in the Premier League, these two teams have made overhauls in their squads in order to improve their quality after performing less than optimally last season. It is difficult to predict the outcome of this match, apart from the two teams having improved their quality with the arrival of several top players, this match will be their first appearance in an official match this season.
I will miss this match without placing any bets, Mauricio Pochettino's squad has improved a lot from last season, but Liverpool are not to be underestimated.
535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi revealed his identity... on: August 13, 2023, 01:47:53 PM
Would the US authorities put him in prison?
Or would he win the Nobel Prize in Economics?
Or both options?  Grin
There is no reason for the government to imprison him, Satoshi did nothing wrong, he never asked anyone to use Bitcoin, the fact that Bitcoin began to be adopted in parts of the world voluntarily. Satoshi will win the Nobel Prize in Economics, even more than that. Bitcoin issued by Satoshi is very useful for the whole world, the convenience offered by Bitcoin has exceeded other institutions issued by the government. If Satoshi reveals his identity, the government will send representatives to learn more about blockchain from him.
536  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to get profile link on the forum on: August 13, 2023, 01:28:07 PM
The three comments above will direct you to get your profile link, even though the method is different, the goal is still the same. Op, you need to learn one of the ways suggested above to get rid of your curiosity about how to get a private profile link. Please save the profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3564126 in the notes to make it easier to retrieve it if needed.
537  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will Bitcoin do to Bank what email did to the post office? on: August 13, 2023, 01:10:15 PM
The convenience offered by Bitcoin will greatly impact the system that has been used in banking. Since Bitcoin has gone global, the process of sending money across countries has become easier, bank customers will of course switch to Bitcoin every time they want to make a transaction because the process is very fast. Bitcoin is also starting to replace fiat money in payment systems, you can order goods from abroad using the payment method via Bitcoin. The easiest option is of course everyone's first choice. In the past, people used the services of the post office to send letters, then Email took over the system because of the convenience it offers.
538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 12, 2023, 04:26:11 PM
Rodrygo, Vini Jr., Joselu these three stars are now the hope of Real Madrid, these three players have enough skills. As much performance as we expect from these three but they are not able to give that much performance till now. Relying on these three attacking stars, Real Madrid decided to wait another year for Mbappe, if these three do not perform as expected by Madrid then it could be a mistake for them not to bring Mbappe to their team this season. The main stage match has not started yet, before the main stage match started, Real Madrid has already played a preparatory match where they were completely defeated. They must learn from the matches they lost, Real Madrid must improve where they did poorly. If Rodrygo, Vini Jr, Joselu can play at their best and if Jude Bellingham can provide good support from the midfield, then something good can be done with this team.
It seems that Real Madrid are satisfied with the squad they currently have, there is no new breakthrough from Real Madrid to bring in new players, especially in the striker position. Real Madrid will have to rely on Rodrygo, Vini Jr and Joselu up front for their challenge in the new season. Rumors about Mbappe began to fade after Real Madrid did not react further to sign him.

Actually Real Madrid really needed the presence of a top striker after Benzema left, but Real Madrid chose another way to sign Mbappe by waiting for another year so they could secure his signature for free. I have a little doubt about Real Madrid's ability this season with the quality of the strikers they currently have, hopefully one of Real Madrid's strikers won't be in the treatment room for a long time, if this happens, then Real Madrid will have a hard time competing for the title.
539  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am new here please guide me. on: August 12, 2023, 04:01:26 PM
Welcome to the forum that can make you a reliable Bitcoiner and Investor. The users who have joined here are part of the people who really love Bitcoin, we have got more knowledge here than ever imagined. Now you are in a place that can give you knowledge and insight about Bitcoin and become an investor when you are ready to invest.
Never feel bored in learning the knowledge that is here, always take your time to read some of the threads that have been recommended. Here forum members always discuss about Bitcoin and how to become a successful investor, you can directly ask questions here about something you don't understand and the people in the forum will answer your questions according to their knowledge capabilities.
540  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [DISKUSI] Hukum Zakat Bitcoin on: August 12, 2023, 03:44:13 PM
zakat harus dikeluarkan di tempat mencari nafkah.
Misal bitcoin sudah mencapai hisab (dari kerja di bitcointalk) selama setahun, lalu kita berzakat ke negara tempat bitcointalk berada?.

Jumhur ulama ( Imam Syafi’i, Imam Maliki dan Ahmad bin Hambal) memang berpendapat demikian (zakat harus dikeluarkan di tempat mencari nafkah) , namun ada juga yang berpendapat lain (Mazhab Hanafi), boleh membayar zakat ke luar negeri dengan alasan tertentu, Mungkin karena alasan bitcoin belum bisa diterima zakat di Indonesia ini, bisa dijadikan alasan untuk membayar zakat ke negeri lain seperti Inggris dan Malaysia tadi. IMO.
Menurut pemahaman saya, disana disebutkan dimana tempat mencari rezeki bukan tempat rezeki itu berasal atau diterbitkan.

Tentu boleh menunaikan zakat ke luar negeri dengan alasan yang jelas seperti yang telah disebutkan diatas. Memang di Indonesia sendiri belum ada peraturan atau pihak terkait yang menerima Bitcoin sebagai alat untuk membayar zakat, tetapi Bitcoin kan memiliki nilai, bisa ditukar menjadi rupiah.

Kalau alasannya berdasarkan kias masih bisa diterima, tetapi kalau ada yang berhak menerima zakat di negeri sendiri atau orang-orang yang ada disekitar kehidupan kita yang masih makan dua kali sehari kenapa tidak dikasih buat mereka saja (hitung-hitungan membantu mereka yang masih kesulitan ekonomi) daripada dikirim ke luar negeri.
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