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341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 22, 2023, 03:20:27 PM
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Real Madrid should have won the match by a three-goal margin, even though the referee disallowed two goals because the match was dominated by Real Madrid. There were a number of good opportunities that could have been goals, but were not completed well. Sevilla's defense also appeared very solid and Sergio Ramos made several saves, thus preventing Sevilla from losing at home. Even though the match ended in a draw, Real Madrid is still firmly in first place in the standings because Atletico Madrid, Girona and Barcelona have not yet play.

Sergio Ramos is still a tough defender in my opinion and he is still playing well even though it is not the same as in the last few seasons. This is the first match since Sergio Ramos left Real Madrid and he still shows his love for Los Blancos even though they are opponents.
Sevilla defense was the main factor in Real Madrid failure to win. Real Madrid had several good opportunities but Sevilla defenders played very disciplined and were always alert in blocking Real Madrid attacks. Real Madrid attack line also didn't play optimally, they wasted several opportunities that could have been goals.
Sevilla success in holding Real Madrid to a draw was due to good play from Sergio Ramos and his colleagues who guarded Sevilla defense area. Real Madrid has tried hard to get an additional three points, but Sevilla managed to make Real Madrid lose two points in this match which made the competition at the top of the standings even hotter.
342  Economy / Economics / Re: how businesses swindle the minimum wage employee on: October 22, 2023, 03:05:53 PM
I am very curious about the facts you just told me, many assumptions and speculations have arisen after reading everything you wrote in Op.
He (the person you mean) works there based on a personal agreement or with an employment contract attached.?
If he works based on a collective agreement without a written agreement in the employment contract which is supported by labor law, he cannot dispute working hours that exceed the limit because he must follow the rules set at his workplace.

There will always be pros and cons to the minimum wage that employees receive. If an employee feels he is being treated as a cash cow at his workplace, he can immediately resign from that place. Logically, before a work agreement is entered into, the wages that the employee will receive are always discussed. If he feels that his wages are insufficient or below standard, he can immediately refuse to work there.
343  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there a formula for Bitcoin starters? on: October 22, 2023, 02:29:33 PM
When your economic conditions are very limited and you have no other income in the near future, investing in Crypto is very risky because the price is very volatile. It is highly discouraged to invest in Bitcoin using money that should be used for other needs.
Bitcoin prices move in two directions, making it very difficult to predict when is the right time to enter and when is the right time to exit. Bitcoin can take you free from financial problems, but if you don't have money that is ready to lose or be stuck for a long time in investment than investing in Bitcoin becomes very risky.
344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can change lives on: October 22, 2023, 02:19:46 PM
The majority of those who have joined the Bitcointalk forum have studied the world of Crypto and are very aware that Bitcoin can improve economic conditions and change their lives. Bitcoin has also changed the habits of many individuals, who are usually used to saving to having assets in the form of Bitcoin. But behind the excitement that Bitcoin can bring, Newbies must also learn the negative impacts that Bitcoin can have on their lives.

Even though Bitcoin investment can potentially change your life for the better, on the way to the financial freedom that can result from Bitcoin investment, investors will be tested by market movements that are not as desired, perhaps even worse than they have ever experienced before. The longer you are in the Bitcoin market, the more positive experiences that can lead you to become a successful investor.
345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin for everyone? on: October 22, 2023, 12:31:33 PM
Op, never think anything negative when you are in an unlucky position. You have to think wiser in the situation you are experiencing, economic needs play an important role in the continuation of your investment. No one expects losses in investments, but when times are economically difficult, you have to make bitter decisions in order to prioritize other needs.

Bitcoin never discriminates against who will make a profit and who will be left at a loss. This is the reason it is highly recommended to always invest using cold money or money that is not used for other needs, even if under no circumstances your investment will ever be disturbed.
346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 21, 2023, 02:33:50 PM
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Maybe the reason is that they still haven't been able to adapt very well to their new coach's strategy, changes in tactics on the field have also made their performance unstable. Moreover, the mainstay striker performance not on fire and with his currently injured, become the concerns for bettors and fans are big. Fortunately, currently Napoli are leading at half time with a score of 2 in their away match against Verona. If in the second half Napoli can add their score and still not concede, Rudi position will be safe.
It looks like Napoli will close this victory with a win, currently the score is 1-3 in favor of Napoli. Even though the team led by Rudi Garcia played at Verona's headquarters, they managed to dominate the match well. The different qualities of the team made it easy for Napoli to secure three points in this match, Veron was only able to withstand the attacks built by Napoli players by occasionally launching counter-attacks when they controlled the ball. Napoli looked so relaxed in the remainder of the match, it seemed they were satisfied with the three goals they scored against Verona.
347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 01:10:07 PM
The first half of the Liverpool vs Everton match looks like it will end with a 0-0 result. And Everton seemed to be having more difficulty in the second half. Because they lost their right back, namely A. Young, who received a red card in the 37th minute.

Liverpool must be able to take advantage of the second half to score goals and win the match. The gaps in Everton's back line will become increasingly visible. In the first half Liverpool had difficulty penetrating Everton's defense. But I am sure that in the second half Liverpool will penetrate the defensive wall built by Everton. 11 players versus 10 players will greatly benefit Liverpool. And If Liverpool can't take advantage of this. So that's outrageous.
Everton were still able to play disciplined and build a strong defensive line even though they played with 10 players from the 37th minute. The lack of players is increasingly making Liverpool players eager to put pressure on Everton to win this match. Jurgen Klopp tried to increase Liverpool's attacking power by playing Darwin Nunez, what Klopp did was just to take advantage of Everton's situation of playing with 10 players. The efforts made by Liverpool players were not in vain, they managed to break the deadlock through a goal scored by Salah from the penalty spot.
348  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much money can you make by investing in Bitcoin? on: October 21, 2023, 12:51:39 PM
You need to learn to find out more about how to invest in Bitcoin so you can make money. The key word is learn, then you can make your first investment based on the knowledge you already have. Bitcoin can be obtained easily, you can get Bitcoin by buying it on an exchange, then storing it in a wallet that you can control the key to.
Here you can also get Bitcoin for free by promoting the Bitcoin payment signature campaign. Because now you are still a newbie, you have to focus on increasing your account rank to at least Full Member because most Bitcoin payment signature campaigns require participants to be at least Full Member rank.
349  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can they be listed here for easy access? on: October 21, 2023, 12:36:29 PM
You have the desire, but don't want to make the effort. Start exploring the forum deeper to find some threads that you think can help Newbies then you can link to these threads. I can just direct you here to get some of the links you want. Get used to exploring several different boards to gain insight into the forum, you can save the link here if you think it is useful for Newbies.
350  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Experience is key, go for it. on: October 21, 2023, 12:17:30 PM
Experience is the most valuable teacher, this proverb may be familiar to Bitcointalk forum users. Whatever is done today will become experience in the future, an investor who has sufficient experience will find it easier to carry out plans to gain profits from Cryptocurrency investments.
To become a successful investor, experience is very necessary. It's like saying, people who have tasted pizza already know how it tastes, while people who have never tasted it can only guess how the pizza actually tastes.
351  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Jika punya banyak aset di kripto. Tetap jadi anonim atau ingin jadi terkenal? on: October 20, 2023, 04:17:00 PM
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Saya mikirnya juga begitu om. Masih ada langit di atas langit. Tidak perlu memamerkan dan mendapatkan pengakuan dari orang lain. Kita sudah punya yang kita perlukan, termasuk kripto ini. Masih banyak orang-orang di luar sana yang tidak tahu tentang kripto dan masih bergelut dengan aktivitasnya sehari-hari. Jadi kita sudah lebih beruntung dari mereka dan itu yang harusnya kita syukuri.

Kalau berbicara masalah kejahatan, ini pasti akan meningkat terutama kalau masih banyak orang-orang yang sering memamerkan hartanya di depan umum. Ini hanya akan mengundang niat jahat dari mereka untuk menguasainya dengan cara-cara yang tidak benar. Lebih baik bersikap sewajarnya saja, apalagi kita hidup di kampung yang notabene masyarakatnya terdiri dari bermacam-macam orang. Jadi tetap anonim akan lebih baik supaya bisa hidup tenang seperti yang om bilang.
Sudah banyak kisah tragis yang terjadi akibat senang memamerkan harta kekayaannya, tindakan ini dapat memicu tindakan kriminal seperti perampokan dan pencurian. Seperti yang terjadi pada selebgram asal Hong-Kong yang sering memamerkan kekayaan di media sosial, dia menjadi korban perampokan pada akhir November 2020.

Kesombongan akan menyebabkan kehancuran pada diri sendiri akibat tidak mampu mengontrol diri atas kemewahan yang dimiliki, tindakan ini juga dapat menciptakan tekanan sosial pada orang-orang yang merasa tidak mampu untuk menampilkan kekayaan mereka. Tidak masalah memamerkan sebagian kecil kekayaan yang dimiliki dalam bentuk apapun termasuk Crypto asal memiliki sisi positif seperti menggunakan kalimat bijak dan menunjuk proses yang dilalui untuk mencapai kesuksesan demi membuat orang lain terobsesi dengan kesuksesan yang anda raih.
352  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Sulitnya Mengedukasi Masyarakat Untuk Menolak Amplop Para Calon! on: October 20, 2023, 03:48:27 PM
Yang sedang dibahas di Thread ini sudah lama dilakukan oleh seorang  intelektual yang ada di desa saya, beliau sangat dihormati karena kedermawanannya dan ilmu pengetahuan yang dimiliki diatas rata-rata.
Beliau selalu mengedukasi masyarakat ketika tahun pemilu datang agar tidak salah memilih pemimpin atau wakil rakyat, beliau selalu mengatakan ambil amplopnya, tapi jangan coblos calonnya, tidak apa-apa karena kita tidak meminta amplop sama mereka.

Beliau selalu berada di barisan terdepan dalam mengedukasi masyarakat untuk berhati-hati dalam menjatuhkan pilihan, pemimpin yang baik akan memberi dampak baik pada masyarakat, sedangkan pemimpin yang terlalu berambisi mendapat kekuasaan dengan menghalalkan segala cara akan mengutamakan kepentingan pribadi daripada kepentingan rakyat.

Politik uang akan berakhir di Indonesia selama masyarakat terbuka hatinya atau dengan kata lain tidak mudah dibeli suaranya dengan sejumlah uang. Di desa saya tidak ada lagi caleg yang berani menjalankan politik uang karena misi mereka tidak pernah berhasil akibat masyarakat sudah pinter dalam menentukan pilihannya.
353  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [LOG] List Rank Up Member Indonesia (Member - Legendary) on: October 20, 2023, 03:23:29 PM
Bener, naik rank tidak semudah yang dibayangkan butuh kerja keras apply di beberap board merit source untuk mendapatkan tambahan poin merit, selain kualitas postingan kita juga dituntut harus aktif mencari board merit source yang loyal memberikan distribusi merit dan beruntung selain di board lokal saya juga mendapat appresiasi dari board luar yang dihandle Ratimov.

Jangan terlalu lama gan @PytagoraZ di level Full Member untuk bisa naik ke level selanjutnya Sr Member, saya lihat semua user di board lokal sepertinya memiliki potensi dan bakat naik ke level atau rank lebih tinggi.

Masih berat gan, kesibukan offline ahir-ahir ini lagi cukup padat jadi pikiran terkuras habis. Jadine online sering blank ga ada ide... kayaknya ane bakal betah di full member cukup lama. Mengingat 150 merit itu berat bet dah, lambaikan tangan ane gan
Kesibukan Offline tidak bisa dijadikan alasan sebagai penghambat berkontribusi ke forum dengan menghasilkan posting berkualitas. Untuk memulainya sangat mudah dilakukan selama anda sedang mempromosikan signature campaign, setiap posting yang anda buat untuk mencapai target yang sudah diatur di Campaign sebagai syarat untuk menerima bayaran, anda bisa membuat posting berkualitas dari pengetahuan yang sudah anda pelajari dan informasi yang anda peroleh.

Keberhasilan member lain bisa dijadikan motivasi untuk terus berkembang agar lebih cepat berada di peringkat yang lebih tinggi, lagian pekerjaan Offline tidak menyerap waktu sampai 24 jam, saat waktu istirahat anda bisa mencari ide agar bisa menghasilkan posting berkualitas, selanjutnya anda bisa melanjutkan atau menyelesaikan posting di malam hari.

Tetap semangat gan, tetap optimis dengan kemampuan anda.

354  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Liciknya Anggota DPR Boleh Menjabat Lebih dari 2 Periode! on: October 20, 2023, 03:09:45 PM
selama anggota DPR nya itu itu saja maka negara ini akan terus seperti itu itu saja, seharusnya para mahasiswa lebih tegas lagi dalam kebijakan ini, merkea harus bisa menggoyang MK untuk mengesahkan UU bahwasannya masa jabatan anggota DPR itu tidak boleh lebih dari 2 periode.
Besarnya gaji pokok + tunjangan yang diterima anggota DPR seperti yang dijelaskan pada surat edaran setjen DPR RI No.KU.00/9414/DPR RI/XII/2010 menjadi faktor utama mereka sangat ingin melanggengkan jabatannya selama yang mereka mampu. Tidak heran kenapa mereka terkesan lupa menyusun UU yang membatasi masa jabatannya karena begitu mudah menambah daftar kekayaannya selama menjabat sebagai anggota DPR.

Menyinggung hasil kerja mereka, sudah bisa ditebak berdasarkan bagaimana kelakuan mereka saat sidang paripurna, ada yang bermain game saat rapat [1] dan ada yang tidur [2]. Mereka juga sangat sering melakukan tindakan memperkaya diri dengan cara instan atau mencari kekayaan secara prematur dengan melakukan tindakan korupsi [3] dan [4].

Semakin lama masa jabatannya semakin mudah juga mereka membeli hukum, uang dan relasi memegang peran penting atas kasus yang menimpa mereka, sudah menjadi rahasia umum mereka selalu diperlakukan khusus atau saat berada di penjara.
Pembatasan masa kerja anggota DPR akan membatasi juga mereka melakukan tindakan korupsi dalam jumlah milyaran, mereka yang masih baru menjabat perlu melakukan penyesuaian diri atau beradaptasi dengan lingkungan baru, mereka juga akan merasa was-was melakukan tindakan korupsi karena harus memikirkan mengembalikan modal yang dikeluarkan saat masa kampanye.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460703.0
2. https://news.detik.com/berita/d-2296862/anggota-dpr-dari-pdip-tertidur-saat-rapat-paripurna
3. https://nasional.tempo.co/read/1510703/daftar-pimpinan-dpr-yang-terjerat-kasus-korupsi
4. https://news.detik.com/berita/d-6878191/jadi-tersangka-korupsi-anggota-dpr-ismail-thomas-punya-harta-rp-98-m
355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 19, 2023, 01:26:59 PM
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The nature of football Barcelona is playing currently is still appealing and it has not made them lose their stand in the competition just yet. The absence of Lewandowski in the forward position is felt, but it hasn't caused them to falter in their performance, as they continue to improve even without him. Xavi is a coach who has a unique coaching approach that allows other players to shine and improve on their own performance. When certain players are injured, his coaching method truly helps him because he always has a good alternative for them to keep the winning mindset intact. Hopefully, Lewandowski will be fully recovered shortly, allowing the team to continue on their winning stride as usual.
The absence of Lewandowski in the attacking position has caused Barcelona attacking power to decrease slightly, Lewandowski presence has helped Barcelona a lot through the goals he has scored. Xavi was a little confused due to Lewandowski injury, he began to urge Barcelona to immediately bring Vitor Roque to Camp Nou. Xavi feels that his team is a little limping in the absence of Lewandowski, Vitor Roque is considered to be an ideal replacement for Lewandowski because he is also very productive in scoring goals with Athletico Paranaense.
356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 19, 2023, 12:18:45 PM
I just want to watch them against bigger teams than the ones in their group as well. They are really good at dealing with top teams in the Premier League. I wonder whether they can do this in the Champions League too.
Being placed at the top position in EPL didn't mean if arsenal will have same performance in UCL. UCL is far harder than EPL caused by the club must have faced strong teams which are unfamiliar to the club. I would like to see arsenal to face real madrid.
Bellingham will ready to destroy arsenal and kick it out from UCL. There are so many great clubs qualified for the play off.
Arsenal must maintain the performance they showed in the EPL, now they are still fighting in the group stage to secure first position in group B. Arsenal is still superior compared to the three other clubs in Group B. Lens, Sevilla and PSV Eindhoven are not as strong as the top teams in the EPL. Arsenal strength this season will be tested by other strong teams from different leagues. Arsenal needs to avoid stronger opponents in the round of 16 by winning group B.

Arsenal meeting with Real Madrid will probably take place in the quarter-finals or semi-finals if these two teams are able to survive in the UCL. It's hard to guess who is stronger between the two because Arsenal has also managed to beat Manchester City in the EPL.
357  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Liciknya Anggota DPR Boleh Menjabat Lebih dari 2 Periode! on: October 19, 2023, 06:50:24 AM
Inilah politik, UU bisa dibuat untuk membatasi jabatan sentral di posisi kepala daerah tetapi tidak untuk mereka yang mengatasnamakan wakil rakyat. Selama ini banyak sekali anggota DPR yang menjabat lebih dari dua periode, sebut saja Muhaimin Iskandar (4 periode), Aziz Syamsuddin (3 periode), Bambang Soesatyo (3 periode) dan mungkin lebih banyak nama-nama lain yang menjabat lebih lama dari nama diatas.
Pembatasan masa kerja tidak hanya dibatasi pada posisi kepala daerah saja, perlu adanya pembatasan masa kerja pada DPR, menurut saya banyak pertimbangan yang bisa dijadikan alasan untuk membatasi masa kerja mereka.

  • kurangnya manfaat bagi rakyat meski mereka berada disana atas kepercayaan yang diberikan rakyat.
Kebanyakan anggota DPR yang telah lama menjabat tidak terlalu peduli pada rakyat, mereka hanya mementingkan kepentingan pribadi dan partainya, fakta ini menjadi ironi yang sangat menyedihkan, mereka mengatasnamakan wakil rakyat tetapi tidak bekerja untuk kepentingan rakyat.
Semakin lama mereka menjabat, semakin memahami liku-liku cara menyiasati pemanfaatan anggaran untuk kepentingan dirinya dan partai, atau istilah plesetannya semakin lama mereka menjabat akan semakin pintar melakukan KKN (korupsi, kolusi, dan nepotisme), kan mereka sudah sangat memahami celahnya.


  • Dapat memberikan makna positif dengan adanya penyegaran di tubuh DPR.
Sisi positif dari pembatasan masa kerja DPR akan lebih terbuka atau memberi pemerataan yang bisa memberi ruang dan kesempatan bagi rakyat untuk menjadi anggota DPR, cara seperti ini juga sangat efektif untuk menciptakan atau lahirnya pemimpin jujur dan benar-benar mementingkan rakyat daripada melakukan KKN.


  • Sistem politik akan lebih terstruktur dan lebih indah dengan ditegakkan ideologi Demokrasi.
Selain memberi ruang bagi kalangan muda, pembatasan masa kerja untuk DPR juga bisa mengurangi pejabat diluar pegawai negeri sipil (ASN) yang terkesan ingin melanggengkan kekuasaan.
Regenerasi ditubuh DPR juga dapat membatasi atau mengurangi terjadinya tingkat kecurangan seperti aliran dana tidak tepat sasaran. Tidak bisa dipungkiri, pejabat yang terus menerus menjabat di posisi tertentu dalam waktu lama akan lebih mudah menemukan celah melakukan kecurangan karena mereka sudah sangat faham bagaimana sistem birokrasi berjalan.
Pembatasan masa kerja juga dapat mempersempit atau meruncingkan kemungkinan bagi mereka untuk menemukan ruang atau celah dalam melakukan korupsi.

Supaya lebih sejalan dengan irama demokrasi yang terus digaungkan di negeri yang kita cintai ini, akan lebih baik kalau masa jabatan DPR dibatasi. Meski ruang lingkup atau kekuasaan yang diemban DRP lebih sempit dibandingkan dengan kepala daerah lain, secara keseluruhan DPR memiliki wewenang yang sangat luas, urusan legislatif dan anggaran memiliki kewenangan sentral dan sangat menentukan arah keputusan mereka.

Pada akhir kata, diberlakukannya pembatasan masa jabatan terhadap DRP tentu lebih masuk akal. Imo.
358  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: October 19, 2023, 05:09:32 AM
membaca postingan dan komentar dari para pejuang lainnya membuat saya sekali lagi sadar bahwa sukses itu butuh proses. jujur memang alasan saya bergabung di forum ini memang untuk menghasilkan. namun saya mendapatkan informasi ini dari internet, saya tidak punya teman di dunia nyata untuk berdiskusi tentang forum ini dan bagaimana cara menghasilkan. tapi yang jelas mungkin memang saya harus belajar dan belajar lagi untuk keinginan tersebut. terima kasih
Untuk meraih kesuksesan tidak semudah membalikkan telapak tangan, ada proses demi proses yang harus dilalui untuk mencapai tujuan. Belajar secara otodidak agak sedikit ruwet jika tidak ada yang mengarahkan secara langsung apa yang seharusnya dilakukan dan menghindari selaga yang dilarang.
Anda harus rajin belajar dan membaca di forum ini untuk mencapai tujuan bergabung disini, anda juga bisa langsung bertanya disini jika ada sesuatu yang ingin ditanyakan, senior yang ada di forum akan membantu menjawab pertanyaan anda dan mengarahkan anda ke link terkait untuk memudahkan memahaminya.
359  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah Bitcoin Akan Sepopuler Ini Jika Satoshi Masih Ada? on: October 19, 2023, 04:04:51 AM
Mereka yang mengaku-ngaku Sebagai Satoshi yang sebenarnya melakukan beberapa manipulasi.
Satoshi yang asli tidak pernah melakukan hal tersebut, karena dia paham dengan berbagai resiko yang akan ditimbulkan dan identitasnya akan terungkap jika menggunakan Bitcoin yang ada di address miliknya.
Jika kita berpikir secara logika:
Saat pertama kali Bitcoin diperkenalkan ke publik, Satoshi memilih menutup dirinya/menyembunyikan identitas aslinya (Anonim) dengan berbagai alasan termasuk ingin menjaga keamanan dirinya dan keluarganya dari pihak-pihak yang menentang keras kehadiran Bitcoin akibat bisnis mereka bisa terancam.
Agak terasa aneh tiba-tiba Satoshi tiba-tiba mengakui dirinya sebagai pencetus Bitcoin karena sangat bertentangan dengan tujuan awal, lagipula pengakuan tersebut tidak bisa ditarik kesempatan orang tersebut adalah Satoshi selama dia tidak bisa mengakses ke wallet miliknya dan melakukan aktivitas disana.

Beberapa nama yang sempatdi kaitkan dengan Satoshi Nakamoto
Nama-nama tersebut tidak ada yang bisa membuktikan dirinya Satoshi yang asli, asumsi publik pada nama-nama tersebut tidak pernah bisa dibuktikan dengan menunjukan aktivitas yang dilakukan di dompet asli milik Satoshi.
360  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say? on: October 19, 2023, 03:38:04 AM
There are benefits, there are also risks, that is what is called investment. Most people view Bitcoin from a negative side because they never know to what extent Bitcoin can enable them to reap big profits as long as they know how to invest safely there.
It's true, Bitcoin investment has high risks, you can lose money overnight due to high volatility, but this risk can be overcome by properly understanding how to invest safely in Bitcoin. The wider development of Bitcoin should open their eyes to the positive side that can be generated from Bitcoin. If there was nothing of value to be gained from investing in Bitcoin, there would be no way Bitcoin would be as popular as it is today.
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