Today's is the last day of the week and no update on the release of the mvp. Does anyone know why? I was really looking forward to the release this week.
I asked on telegram and they told me that it was released for early members and other partners. It will be open to the public next week; so should be somewhere around Monday or Tuesday. Let us wait and see. That's good to know them. Finally, the public can get to see it. Hopefully by Wednesday max it should have been released if by any chance Monday or Tuesday wasn't feasible for them. |
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What i like from Bitfence is that the tokens will be minted on your purchase, and it is fast. While others generate too much amount of tokens, or mint the tokens at a later date. This is way better !
So basically there's isn't any total supply at the moment. The amount bought at the end if ico will turn out to be the total supply? Max token supply can be calculated based on hardcap goal. Good thing is that we don't have to worry about unsold tokens. True, this is the most efficient way, because you will have less work to do like burning it after the ICO. This should be the standard for the new Icos. I don't know why they still don't use this way. Another interesting method is to create the tokens onse the token sale is over. If there are unsold tokens, you just dont generate them. Yeah, but you will not receive them quickly after you have invested. Sometimes it can even take longer, if the team decides to slowly generate them after the ICO. I agree a lot of people can become angry if they receive it later than expected usually i would love to have it direct when i purchase them but after the ico is also fine with me. I think that's the best way to go about it. By so doing, you won't have to face the hassle of burning unsold tokens any more because You already know the required amount of tokens |
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Superbloom vetting projects before they come out as an ICO saves a lot of energy, time and manpower, if you know what it takes to get real project out there you will appreciate Superbloom real fast
That's some real task superbloom are planning on taking up and i tell you that this won't be easy. I must say that their criteria for choosing an ico must be 100% accurate because if anything goes wrong and that ico turns out to be a fraud. Superbloom will pay for sure. So you are saying there is some sort of insurance covering holders of SEED token?? because if it's so then I think superbloom reduces both risk associated with buying ICO and also ensures safety to the optimum as well I wouldn't say insurance because i do not see where superbloom will compensate users if one of their predicted and vetted to successfully and not scam ico actually turns out to be a scam. I think what Gee777 is trying to say is if Superbloom intends to vet upcoming ICO's before they get lunched they have to carry out the vetting process very well to avoid acknowledging a project which later turns out to be a scam. I have seen projects every one thought was legit and turned out to be scam, something of this sort will damage Superbloom credibility. I hope their vetting process contains all necessary questions. if you check the whitepaper they go through what they'll be doing to ensure this doesn't happen, including meeting with the entire team of a new project. I really do hope that a thing like this doesn't happen cause it might bring a bad spot to the reputation of superboom. If after they trust a project and publicly made it know, the project turns out to be bad, people will probably find it difficult to believe superbloom judgment next time |
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I must confess that I already had that thought. Since the hurricane there is a lot of garbage to burn. I did not want to mention it, since I do not think it's right to benefit from the suffering of others. But actually they are also helped, because the waste is rapidly becoming less and less. I hope the population can benefit as well Its sad actually what happened but we just have to move on with life but looking at the bright side 4new will help in cleaning the environment that is one of the major advantages i know with 4new. I think part of the main reason 4NEW decided to have a plant in Puerto Rico is to help reduce waste because when I had a view of Puerto Rico from my television set the hurricane effect really did look bad so I believe it's not all about business for 4NEW as they intend to help Puerto Rico get better. it probably helps that Cryptos are tax free in Puerto Rico as well haha Haha. Funny Friend. Every one will do what they can to gain extra money even if it means cutting off tax legally.  good pick that is by the team. Really cool |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins  Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us It all depends how big the overall crypto market gets, don't forget while the 400b sound big for the crypto market in reality its still small when you scale it against things like the NYSE and major countries fiat values, when we break 1t i think people will understand better the scales possible for projects. But for this to happen more people will have to come into crypto and also if the big shots will be able to invest more then you will smile while the market flies. We can assume that there will be a lot more money in the crypto market in 1-2 years. More and more large investors are entering the market and if prices rise, even small investors will come back. Solid projects like Bittwatt are guaranteed to be on many grocery lists, so it's good to be there right from the start Yeah. A lot of improvement and development will occur very soon and like you said a lot Of big investors will come into crypto market that would be a good thing. That is a good point, the market is recovering quite well although the past weeks have been stagnant, anyhow if we pass the 10k barrier I think there will be a lot more circulation in ICO's. But we are approaching last week of Bittwatt ICO. Interesting time is coming up. When BTC reaches 10K at the time of exchange listing of Bittwatt, then it will be super exciting for us. Soon it will be all over and markets trading will go live and public. I hope dumpers won't play their normal role of the crypto movie.  let all hold our token for a good moon journey. |
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Thanks for the link. I read out that article and found some interesting info. " Vanig is forming exciting partnerships in the South East Asia region. Here are alreay some of their partners: iFashion Group, MegaxStore, iCommerce Asia. I just did a quick research on the partners you mentioned Ctrades31 they all have prominent prospects Vanig sure knows how secure good partnership. They couldn't have just gone into partnership with anybody just for the purpose of it. So one should expect that every partnership agreement should come with it huge benefits to the projects. I agree, some ICO's are too concerned with publishing partnership announcements and sometimes forget how important the relevance is Such networking is just for the paper/records if it actually brings nothing to the table. It really makes no sense for a project to do such, I personally see it as deceit though. But I want to believe this partnership is bringing brilliance to the table. |
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I too want to believe that they used the medium to advertise their project to as many as they could reach. That's one of the largest gathering of crypto investors I belive. |
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I came to know about this project from social media platform. And I have checked whitepaper and some videos about 4NEW and now I am going through the discussion on this thread.
It seems that I found this project late, but I still have chance to participate in pre-listing token sale. Since they already have two power plants and trying to crack a new deal I think it will be still good decision to buy the token at 2 USD?
From my own perception and view of things they are doing the right thing already, putting in place before hand what they intend on achieving, buying at 2$ now seems to me as a smart decision, I mean it could go up or down but the long term growth of it is both certain and my focus I am agreeing with more than 100%. 4NEW is really long term story. You cannot construct or buy power plant and utilize the tokens almost immediately. It takes time. Honestly project team is moving faster than expected or even their own roadmaps. I understand the risk also. I am also worried that bounty hunters will dump the tokens and it will affect the price. But I don't expect it to go down below ICO price. What I will do is, I will invest half amount now and will invest half after listing. If you have done your own research and decided to buy the tokens then go ahead. I also see good future for 4new as the team is working very hard and achieving goals before time. There's a lot of potential in 4new and you can see that from the team, the determination to get the work done is quite extraordinary and with this comes confidence but i will advice to still do your own research and invest at your convenience solely on your own decision. I agree with you completely. Do we already know the exact date of pre-listing sales? Is it still going to be only for 3 days? I would like to see more information on that part. I know this will be in the first week of June. But never seen the exact date and details. I am also looking forward to hear about that. The most important point I would like to know is what would be their target? There seem not to be any form of publication on the particular date yet. Definitely, when we get closer to the date, at the right time, they will inform us |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us Theoretically this calculation is right. But when it becomes practical, not sure what will happen. Only time will tell us. We just have to wait and see. Nevertheless, Bittwatt is not a bad pick to add to portfolio. Yea. It is definitely not a bad asset. There are many good sides of the project and their use case also is a cool one. But this is crypto world, no one can say for a fact how plans will work out. |
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Thanks for the link. I read out that article and found some interesting info. " Vanig is forming exciting partnerships in the South East Asia region. Here are alreay some of their partners: iFashion Group, MegaxStore, iCommerce Asia. I just did a quick research on the partners you mentioned Ctrades31 they all have prominent prospects Vanig sure knows how secure good partnership. They couldn't have just gone into partnership with anybody just for the purpose of it. So one should expect that every partnership agreement should come with it huge benefits to the projects. |
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Nice write up; I specifically liked the rewarding system they have in place. The more you hodl the better the rewards. A smart way to increase value more people would want to hodl lol. That's the fact, the benefits of the project is enormous, when you look at it critically, you will understand that is like a one way ticket to unending means of several cryptocurrencies and for the fact that they will also integrate the trading platform is also a bonus for holders, imagine having several tokens and trading at same time I think holding the 'premium' 100k+ tokens is where you'd see the real benefits from it, getting 20% of the value of your tokens of every ICO that lists on there is massive. 100k SEED would be really great, but I'm afraid that's beyond my financial resources. I have not found any information yet on how much the 100K tokens would cost, do you have an idea? I found on their website that "SEED tokens are set at $0.10 during our 2018 pre-sale." so i would say 100k Tokens would be around $10.000 USD. Thank you for the information. I must have been blind, could not find this number :-) But I expected about this amount, 10k $ are really a lot of money. As another has mentioned, a bounty campaign would be great, I would certainly do some for tokens 10k USD is huge money, I was thinking I can get good services at low price. But looks like it's not like that. I hope they reduced the requirements so that people with low budget like me can join. 100k is for the TOP level of their investors. You can still get ICO tokens from holding 10k tokens on their platform.  Infact, you get ICO rewards if you hold 1 token lol I suspect that there will be differences in the amount of tokens received by basic members compared to that of the other higher ranks. That seem to be the only benefits that's clearly stated out along with the preferencial benefits which we are not so sure of what it is presently |
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I came to know about this project from social media platform. And I have checked whitepaper and some videos about 4NEW and now I am going through the discussion on this thread.
It seems that I found this project late, but I still have chance to participate in pre-listing token sale. Since they already have two power plants and trying to crack a new deal I think it will be still good decision to buy the token at 2 USD?
From my own perception and view of things they are doing the right thing already, putting in place before hand what they intend on achieving, buying at 2$ now seems to me as a smart decision, I mean it could go up or down but the long term growth of it is both certain and my focus I am agreeing with more than 100%. 4NEW is really long term story. You cannot construct or buy power plant and utilize the tokens almost immediately. It takes time. Honestly project team is moving faster than expected or even their own roadmaps. I understand the risk also. I am also worried that bounty hunters will dump the tokens and it will affect the price. But I don't expect it to go down below ICO price. What I will do is, I will invest half amount now and will invest half after listing. If you have done your own research and decided to buy the tokens then go ahead. I also see good future for 4new as the team is working very hard and achieving goals before time. 50/50 is a good plan in my opinion, there's always a risk factor that it'll be lower than the ICO price when it hits an exchange, but with what the team have lined up, I honestly don't see it being that way. a 50:50 percent chance of success doesn't really look good enough for investments, that's more of a gamble. To be I think a 70:30 chance ratio is best. Where 70 is for success by the way |
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I found an interesting article on coindesk. It tells how it all started) Just an interesting fact: the first case of energy transfer with the help of the blockchain was recorded in 2016, when one Brooklyn resident sold surplus renewable energy to his neighbor with the help of Ethereum smart-contract. Ethereum Used for 'First' Paid Energy Trade Using Blockchain TechThanks for sharing this article, I like how this shed light into why blockchain is useful for energy related applications Very interesting. This just shows what all can change over the course of 2 years. 2016 we had the first energy transfer with the help of blockchain, 2018 we have projects like Bittwatt that focus on a new kind of energy market. What will be 2020?! Really interesting times we live in. lol that's pretty cool, thanks for sharing that article! And yeah, the future is certainly going to be interesting, the next 5-10 years I think we're going to see insane advancements in blockchain. Definitely more advanced projects and innovative ideas will be popping out of the blockchain platform in the next couple of years Blockchain is here to stay and change the future and anyone who does not see this will have their selves to blame in the future. Hopefully i have crossed that path. Some persons are slow to accepting changes thus I wouldn't really blame them at the right time, the world will see the fact and won't be able to fight it no more |
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Just found a quick statement by Brett on Twitter from Consensus: https://twitter.com/VanigPlatform/status/996825834630664193 A lot of great things are happing. Great minds, great people, great relationships are being formed. We are excited to show you whats next with Vanig. Stay tuned! Now I am really getting excited. Awesome, Can't wait to see what comes from it. I think with the patent pending and the if the MVP goes well, they'll be well set to put themselves in a very good position. Yea, the expectation of the community is pretty high, everyone is trying to test or perhaps get a review of what the MVP is all about, the patent process tend to take sometime because it involves a lot of paperwork and i believe that they will soon round up the process and get things up and running Brett look very excited. I hope Vanig project will crack some partnership deals at this blockchain meet. Vanig project is good and others project would love to join Vanig. Exciting times ahead for sure, Vanig will do great at the event I'm sure, the statistics speak for themselves. Cutting fee's down to around 8% in comparison to amazons 18-20% !!!! I did not know that Amazon's fees are that high. Of course, the 8% of Vanig are already a good offer. Another incentive to sell at Vanig :-) This will be an interesting fight in the e-commerce business in the future If you compare the feeses than i think VANIG has already won but they do need to get a lot of popularity like amazon. That's a long way to go. But they conquer first the Asian market and then the whole world :-) I'm sure in 10 years Vanig will be one of the 3 big ones The Asian market presently is obviously rule the world anyone who conquers Asia automatically controls the world market. In my opinion though |
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I know it is a bit early but are there already any projects confirmed that will hold their pre-ICOs on the Superbloom platform.
Definitely still early like you said. Although you can never tell they actually might have some projects show interest in them. Future projects that will be planning on launching after the Superbloom must have beg up and running |
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Did anyone saw that animated video on homepage of 4new? Small intro and important white paper content they used to explain about Wast-to-Energy. I like that video. I need watch again silently to understand more. I hope they will create more videos about 4 new in detail.
Am yet to see it. Haven't visited the 4new website for a while now though. Will likely visited them soon for this reason. Might likely get something new from there |
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I found an interesting article on coindesk. It tells how it all started) Just an interesting fact: the first case of energy transfer with the help of the blockchain was recorded in 2016, when one Brooklyn resident sold surplus renewable energy to his neighbor with the help of Ethereum smart-contract. Ethereum Used for 'First' Paid Energy Trade Using Blockchain TechThanks for sharing this article, I like how this shed light into why blockchain is useful for energy related applications Very interesting. This just shows what all can change over the course of 2 years. 2016 we had the first energy transfer with the help of blockchain, 2018 we have projects like Bittwatt that focus on a new kind of energy market. What will be 2020?! Really interesting times we live in. lol that's pretty cool, thanks for sharing that article! And yeah, the future is certainly going to be interesting, the next 5-10 years I think we're going to see insane advancements in blockchain. Definitely more advanced projects and innovative ideas will be popping out of the blockchain platform in the next couple of years |
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Reading from the whitepaper section 3 Vanig process flow is very seamless with just six easy steps a consumer can place an order and a distribution agent picks up the order from manufacturer and delivers it to the consumer with all transaction recorded and linked as blocks in Vanig ecosystem.
Its a pretty common supply and order framework, but its done in a pretty new fashion thats more transparent and visible to the consumer to understand how the entire process is going, that should allow people to avoid "re-resale markup" and make a new way to avoid people trying to markup products on already marked up projects, while improving efficiency. Vanig team only pick the product from manufacturers once they receive order? I expect Vanig to keep some products at their facility to save some delivery time. I don't think so.. If i can remember correctly i think that's one of the issues vanig is trying to solve where the product available won't be enough in the case where a buyer wants to order a large quantity of goods. Vanig said they will solve this issue by stocking up their stores with more than enough products. You mean, they also want to take on the role of a wholesaler and supply smaller dealers? For which private person buys large quantities of a single product? Yeah as you can find it on this vanig medium article titled 5 aspect of e-commerce blockchain will transform https://medium.com/vanigplatform/five-aspects-of-e-commerce-that-blockchain-will-transform-7268f74d313dYeah I read it, to be honest vanig wants to really transform e-commerce from the inside out I expect some other projects inspired by Vanig to roll out much later. Projects that will follow/join Vanig in this transformation agenda . |
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Total sales at the moment is 716.18 Ethereum hardcap is 2000 Ethereum with about one and half month left for ICO to come to an end. I think hardcap will be reached given that Pre-sale was reached between April and May if the team put in more effort hardcap will be attainable.
I'm very positive on this one, with a month and half, I think hardcap will be reached, with the way the pre-sale was reached. I don't think reaching the hardcap will be problem. Believe their friend will get to hardcap if they really want to succeed. remember the effort will not betray the results. As I can see at the site their goal is 2000 ETH, so is it hardcap or goal for first phase or something? Also token price is fixed in ETH or USD? Since there was no other cap stated, I will want to believe that they are trying to state in order words that their hard cap is 2000 ETH. This seem small to be hard cap though if you ask me. The Hardcap is $50.000.000, the 2000 ETH are the goal for Stage 1. They have set goals for each stage, which amounts to 5, 10, 20 and 35 million I was first confused about the hardcap, and the stage where we were in. Because the goal was low in stage 1, and that was not the hardcap. Later on i read that there were more stages xD. OH. Interesting. Now that's cleared up. How long is each stage supposed to last? I guess the time frame we are seeing or have been talking about is just for stage 1.right? |
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I am thirst for more partnership announcements from the Bittwatt team. When will be the next partnership announcement come in? How big would be that announcement? Fingers crossed and waiting..
A partnership announcement would be really great to have now. I think this part of the progress would mostly involve getting more suppliers on board and I think they will be fueling the network with more offers. Your right, at this stage in the ICO - in the final hurdle with no bonuses on offer, now would be a perfect time to release an update or partnership giving a good reason for other investors to get on board and reach the hardcap I am sure team will certainly have some idea. Thats why they have marketing people right? Lets just wait and watch and may be look for any last minute announcements which could trigger a huge buy orders. I agree i was also asking myself this question how will they gain more investors without a bonus for the last phase? i am pretty sure they have something big planned to get a lot of attention. I suspect they are using it as a strategy for rounding up the whole token sales at the stage before the "no bonus stage". I mean people will want to buy before the stage ends cause they already know they will get no bonus if they wait till the last stage |
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