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361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten v1.2.1 [YTN] [YescryptR16] [Exchange avilable] on: November 20, 2017, 04:25:59 AM
Anyone got a different miner or GPU miner working yet?

GPU mining is not likely to be worth the effort/power costs, if this algo limits GPU performance as much as yescrypt does it will be about 3-5X slower than CPU mining. Surprisingly the best miner for me is the wallet's setgenerate command, the cpuminer-opt is about 20% slower for me. I'm sure someone with better skills than me can create an even more optimized CPU miner eventually.
Are you saying wallet's setgenerate command is faster than cpuminer-opt?
This is impossible, what operating system are you using?

It's not impossible, it's the truth. On Windows 7, Windows 10, and Ubuntu mining with the wallet is considerably faster than using the other miners. I've tested this on an i3, i5, and Ryzen 7 processor and it's about 20% faster in each case. It seems that there is a lot of optimization that needs to be done in third party miners to compete with the dev's algo.

What's more likely is you are not setting your threads optimally.  You have to try different thread amounts to find the best one.  The wallet probably automatically selects the best number of threads to use.

Nope, experimented with all different settings including thread number on each machine and the result is the same. I set both the wallet and other miners to use half of available threads and affine them to cores only to set up a controlled experiment. There is a difference even with identical settings (for me). The wallet setgenerate command automatically uses all threads unless otherwise specified, which isn't ideal since hashrate will fluctuate wildly.
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any new airdrop coins? on: November 20, 2017, 12:19:01 AM

scam?coincidence?
dogecoin
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelufJPz3AwpYGucb8XIYvRrWzKcGROL1aqm3bFX2xGCYitgQ/viewform
you can send 0.9 eth or 0.5 eth or 0.1 eth or 0.09 eth 0r 0.005 eth or 0.009 eth or 0.005 eth to the distributor address

Digital Coin DGC
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HoJ0ZyQSCNWAObCKzSkNkGOWDF_JUc_APAtuDSzRnk8/viewform?edit_requested=true
To prevent spam and plenty reclaim attempt,
you've to send 0.09 eth, 0.05 eth, 0.01 eth 0r 0.009 eth and 0.005 eth to the distributor address


Litecoin Token
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScp7V2xSE3uBv0sEk9PtmW0jDlxq6QuExZi2KtqgDSbjqsVKQ/viewform
you can send 0.9 eth or 0.5 eth or 0.1 eth or 0.09 eth 0r 0.005 eth or 0.009 eth or 0.005 eth to the distributor address

The DodgeCoin airdrop is a scam, they are asking for .001 eth donation to receive tokens now.
363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten v1.2.1 [YTN] [YescryptR16] [Exchange avilable] on: November 19, 2017, 11:42:55 PM
Anyone got a different miner or GPU miner working yet?

GPU mining is not likely to be worth the effort/power costs, if this algo limits GPU performance as much as yescrypt does it will be about 3-5X slower than CPU mining. Surprisingly the best miner for me is the wallet's setgenerate command, the cpuminer-opt is about 20% slower for me. I'm sure someone with better skills than me can create an even more optimized CPU miner eventually.
Are you saying wallet's setgenerate command is faster than cpuminer-opt?
This is impossible, what operating system are you using?

It's not impossible, it's the truth. On Windows 7, Windows 10, and Ubuntu mining with the wallet is considerably faster than using the other miners. I've tested this on an i3, i5, and Ryzen 7 processor and it's about 20% faster in each case. It seems that there is a lot of optimization that needs to be done in third party miners to compete with the dev's algo.
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten v1.2.1 [YTN] [YescryptR16] [Exchange avilable] on: November 19, 2017, 05:30:27 AM
Anyone got a different miner or GPU miner working yet?

GPU mining is not likely to be worth the effort/power costs, if this algo limits GPU performance as much as yescrypt does it will be about 3-5X slower than CPU mining. Surprisingly the best miner for me is the wallet's setgenerate command, the cpuminer-opt is about 20% slower for me. I'm sure someone with better skills than me can create an even more optimized CPU miner eventually.
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 18, 2017, 05:42:47 PM
new version 1.2.1 released.

disable SSLv3 for security, etc.
see all changes at
https://github.com/conan-equal-newone/yenten/commit/f93d59955800c27bbc5feec2a8b66c9c1872be39

Can anyone explain this in english instead of C++?  Also I'm assuming this is a soft fork and not mandatory to keep mining?

Minor changes, not a hard fork. SSL3 is insecure so the dev disabled it in addition to SSL2 which was already disabled.
366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What is the best coin to mine with a CPU on a linux computer on: November 18, 2017, 05:31:25 PM
There is a new coin called Yenten that is CPU only and growing popular. You can get a good hashrate with even fairly old computers including laptops. I'm mining it on two laptops and a pretty powerful desktop all running Linux, so you should have no issues. Check here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2329470.msg23686620#msg23686620

for more info and a link to the Github page to download the wallet/miner. You will need to compile both from source but there are instructions given.


don't need to compile any of them, they have the binaries already


other cpu only coins you can try are Magi and Verium

You're right, binaries have been added. That should make it easier for people to get started.

Are those coins really worth it to mine? Are there other coins that can be mine in an old desktop computer? I have old computer that my grandmother used it before. Its windows  with low specs.

Hard to say if it's worth it. Right now I'd say it's the best coin to mine with low specs because the algo is specifically designed to offer diminishing returns when using powerful hardware. The price could go up and it could be worth it, or it could die in a few months. People used to say that mining only 1 bitcoin a day was a waste of time and electricity...
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What is the best coin to mine with a CPU on a linux computer on: November 18, 2017, 06:17:21 AM
There is a new coin called Yenten that is CPU only and growing popular. You can get a good hashrate with even fairly old computers including laptops. I'm mining it on two laptops and a pretty powerful desktop all running Linux, so you should have no issues. Check here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2329470.msg23686620#msg23686620

for more info and a link to the Github page to download the wallet/miner. You will need to compile both from source but there are instructions given.

368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 18, 2017, 01:45:24 AM
I have mined around 2200 coins with vps. Hope will be worth it.
Is there any chance for the coin to be listed on other exchagers?

It usually costs a huge fee to list on the big exchangers, so it probably won't happen unless the coin gets a lot more popular. It might be on some Japanese exchanges though.
369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 17, 2017, 10:44:50 PM
Price is down today, we need more buyers.
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 16, 2017, 03:11:38 AM
Practice driving your YENTEN LAMBO
http://yenten.fun/drive-lambo/
This is nice man. I liked this coin  from the beginning... It does need our backing though in the crypto community.

This coin is a breath of fresh air. Anonymous, quirky developer, barely any information about the coin, yet the popularity is rising naturally. It's fun to try to figure out the new algorithm and actually mine a decent amount of coins on a CPU. So tired of 10% premined coins with the usual excuses and scam ICOs with all their "advanced" technology and promises yet useless coin only to be pumped and dumped. Yenten is how cryptocurrency should be, completely anonymous and growing in support organically from the community, not just because the devs spent all their premined coins on marketing...

Agree. I have a feeling the developer didn't think this would take off and so there's no pre-mine or high expectations. It's ironic. Also, I haven't followed a lot of CPU coins on markets from their start, but it seems like the hashrate and market price progressions have been very natural.

Aside from the Amazon AWS guy who had 50% of the hashrate and then dumped all the coins, it has been a natural growth. The good thing about this coin is that (as mentioned before) it has diminishing returns for super powerful hardware so it's just a waste of resources to point thousands of h/s at this coin when you could make so much more with e.g. XMR. So it's not likely that we'll see huge whales taking over the hashpower unless they like wasting money. Plus GPU mining is useless on yescrypt coins (only about 10% equivalent CPU hashrate so guaranteed waste of electricity costs) so I assume it's the same with Yenten's yescryptr16.

Yes. all sounds right.

i should mention that i dont believe the aws guy dumped his coins. It looks like he mined 36,000 coins on the first pool at a rate of 18k ytn a day, then switched to the other pool a few days later and mined another 36k at 10k ytn a day. i assume he is above 100k coins by now maybe even above 150k. We havn’t had a market dump of even 10k so im pretty sure he’s holding the majority. also i can see others doing the same thing who have 10-50k coins as well.

im not really sure what i meant by “natural”. i guess there’s no premine and no monopoly on mining. if whales dumped the market even now then we’d just be able to buy this coin for super cheap, cheaper than we can mine it ourselves and that would be great. it would be as if someone else is mining unprofitably FOR us.

either way, the hashrate has doubled as the price has dropped which is bazarre. lots of people are expending thiusands of dollars of resources mining this coin and that is a really, really good sign.

You're right that he didn't dump all of his coins, the price would have dropped much lower if he did. I remember a decent price drop a few weeks ago and assumed it was him, but it doesn't appear possible to view historical data on Coinsmarkets. It's good that other people see the potential with this coin, I know I do.
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 16, 2017, 01:24:05 AM
Practice driving your YENTEN LAMBO
http://yenten.fun/drive-lambo/
This is nice man. I liked this coin  from the beginning... It does need our backing though in the crypto community.

This coin is a breath of fresh air. Anonymous, quirky developer, barely any information about the coin, yet the popularity is rising naturally. It's fun to try to figure out the new algorithm and actually mine a decent amount of coins on a CPU. So tired of 10% premined coins with the usual excuses and scam ICOs with all their "advanced" technology and promises yet useless coin only to be pumped and dumped. Yenten is how cryptocurrency should be, completely anonymous and growing in support organically from the community, not just because the devs spent all their premined coins on marketing...

Agree. I have a feeling the developer didn't think this would take off and so there's no pre-mine or high expectations. It's ironic. Also, I haven't followed a lot of CPU coins on markets from their start, but it seems like the hashrate and market price progressions have been very natural.

Aside from the Amazon AWS guy who had 50% of the hashrate and then dumped all the coins, it has been a natural growth. The good thing about this coin is that (as mentioned before) it has diminishing returns for super powerful hardware so it's just a waste of resources to point thousands of h/s at this coin when you could make so much more with e.g. XMR. So it's not likely that we'll see huge whales taking over the hashpower unless they like wasting money. Plus GPU mining is useless on yescrypt coins (only about 10% equivalent CPU hashrate so guaranteed waste of electricity costs) so I assume it's the same with Yenten's yescryptr16.
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 16, 2017, 12:33:12 AM
Practice driving your YENTEN LAMBO
http://yenten.fun/drive-lambo/
This is nice man. I liked this coin  from the beginning... It does need our backing though in the crypto community.

This coin is a breath of fresh air. Anonymous, quirky developer, barely any information about the coin, yet the popularity is rising naturally. It's fun to try to figure out the new algorithm and actually mine a decent amount of coins on a CPU. So tired of 10% premined coins with the usual excuses and scam ICOs with all their "advanced" technology and promises yet useless coin only to be pumped and dumped. Yenten is how cryptocurrency should be, completely anonymous and growing in support organically from the community, not just because the devs spent all their premined coins on marketing...
373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: November 16, 2017, 12:00:07 AM
Do you need to install software to run these?

I see they only bring in 0.6 eur a day (4mhs).. They cant be run on public computers when there needs to be software installed, right? Wink

Wow man...

0.6E a day seems like a pretty good stuff to me...

You will need to run a computer.. That consumes power. Would the electricity for a computer cost 0.6 euro per day? Maybe. If not, there's not much left from the 0.6 a day.

Yes, but's it's likely that everyone here on the mining forum is already mining on their computers 24/7, so it's essentially free extra money.
374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 15, 2017, 05:11:31 AM
How's the privacy in this coin?

Same as Bitcoin?

Not sure. I'd love to know the details of the algorithm, the level of privacy, what the actual bottleneck is with the mining (seems like its limited threads or l2 memory), and i'd like someone with more technical knowledge to do an in-depth assessment of all the github files. I guess when a bigger invest comes along they'll have the resources to answer all those questions.

So far though the mining increases have been smooth and it hasn't quadrupled or anything like that, which maybe means the algorithm is difficult to "crack". In any case, that means most of us early miners are small guys and as long as that is true I'll keep mining.

Can anyone tell me how much electricity they are using to mine this?

It appears that processor cache will help you (as well as processor speed of course) but it appears there is arbitrary limiting after 3 threads.

So to optimize you would get the fastest/most energy efficient processor for 3-4 threads.  This means going over quadcore and likely going over 8mb cache would give diminishing returns.

Yes, I've noticed this arbitrary limiting too after mining on three devices of varying power. If I mine cryptonight (for example) on my slow laptop processor I will get 60 h/s vs. 600 h/s on my Ryzen 7, or about a 10X increase. When I mine Yenten I get 250 h/s on the slow processor but only 1200 h/s on the Ryzen, only a 5X increase. So it does seem to be limited on purpose to keep the coin mineable on average computers.

recently i have plan to update my ivybridge, usually get 600 h/s, should i invest new rig or ryzen 7?

if you focus to mining by cpu ryzen is work [but i dont know about power use for ryzen7]

im use intel gen6 skylake i7-6700@3.5G  get 850 h/s

with my ivy, only difference 250 h/s
i am curious, how much speed from ryzen 7?

It gets about 600 h/s stock, so there's no reason for you to upgrade to a Ryzen 7.
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any new airdrop coins? on: November 14, 2017, 12:29:22 AM
No I'm not following your crap coin on twitter or telegram or discord or facebook or whatever other site you're trying to drag personal info from me on.  How about you scam devs do an airdrop how an airdrop is supposed to be done.  You give coins to any interested party in the hopes of them being interested in the project enough so they later decide to invest more heavily.  It's supposed to be like a sample giveaway at a food store, they hope you like the taste.  Not like some kind of micro job where you have to jump through 10 hoops just to get something that is almost worthless.  Get out of here with that bs.

It's true, 95% of these coins are just using us for their free Internet marketing with no guarantee that we will benefit from our work. I don't bother with these shitcoins and instead focus my energy toward the 5% of properly done airdrops that might actually have a future.
376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AirDrop][DAO][ICO] BitcoinWhite on: November 14, 2017, 12:18:28 AM
I sent a message to the bot, but I do not receive a letter with a link to the confirmation.

I did not either, but in the Telegram chat there was a message saying that you do not need to wait for the confirmation mail. Just PM the bot /airdrop and you will get your 300 coins.
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CPU mining] Yenten [YTN] [Exchange avilable BTC/YTN] on: November 13, 2017, 08:26:43 PM
How's the privacy in this coin?

Same as Bitcoin?

Not sure. I'd love to know the details of the algorithm, the level of privacy, what the actual bottleneck is with the mining (seems like its limited threads or l2 memory), and i'd like someone with more technical knowledge to do an in-depth assessment of all the github files. I guess when a bigger invest comes along they'll have the resources to answer all those questions.

So far though the mining increases have been smooth and it hasn't quadrupled or anything like that, which maybe means the algorithm is difficult to "crack". In any case, that means most of us early miners are small guys and as long as that is true I'll keep mining.

Can anyone tell me how much electricity they are using to mine this?

It appears that processor cache will help you (as well as processor speed of course) but it appears there is arbitrary limiting after 3 threads.

So to optimize you would get the fastest/most energy efficient processor for 3-4 threads.  This means going over quadcore and likely going over 8mb cache would give diminishing returns.

Yes, I've noticed this arbitrary limiting too after mining on three devices of varying power. If I mine cryptonight (for example) on my slow laptop processor I will get 60 h/s vs. 600 h/s on my Ryzen 7, or about a 10X increase. When I mine Yenten I get 250 h/s on the slow processor but only 1200 h/s on the Ryzen, only a 5X increase. So it does seem to be limited on purpose to keep the coin mineable on average computers.
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Which amazon aws server type is suited for staking altcoins on: November 13, 2017, 06:49:15 PM
Coinsmarkets.com allows 24/7 staking if you store your coins on their exchange. I've never tried it but they do have support for many staking coins. It's risky to keep your coins on an exchange, though, so consider these risks first. You could also try hosting on a Raspberry Pi, they are cheap and cost very little electricity.
379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Electroneum - PC mining? on: November 13, 2017, 06:41:03 PM
I am using cryptopia address to mine, and it shows on hashparty that I mined few thousand coins but I am not sure how to withdraw them as they are not appearing on cryptopia - PLEASE HELP...this a week's worth of computer power and electricity! I would be bummed if I am cheated out of these!!!!

PLEASE HELP!

You can't mine directly to Cryptopia, there are many warnings against doing this on the site. Those coins are lost forever, next time read the warnings and mine to a personal wallet instead.
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin that can be mine with CPU on: November 13, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
Yenten, Magi, Credits, and ROIcoin are all CPU-only. Right now Yenten is the most profitable for me, but most of these are new coins and you will have to watch the markets to determine the best one to mine. If you have a pretty good CPU you may be able to mine cryptonight coins profitably but unless you also have a decent GPU it probably won't be worth it.
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