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741  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: January 02, 2015, 09:05:03 PM
Period 28, Day 2 Report - January 2, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 182.44178077

Total Units: 22725

NAV/U: BTC 0.00802824
742  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 01, 2015, 10:52:57 PM
another question, really the value dropped, now when the blocks halve next year sometime or a little after, will they set the main servers to drop difficulty for the small block rewards so that the may be mined more quickly? i mean, anytime you r able to trade an increment of credit in for cash the government does have some involvement within the system

The difficulty is independent of the block reward, so no.
743  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: January 01, 2015, 06:39:50 PM
Period 28, Day 1 Report - January 1, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 183.83954140

Total Units: 22724

NAV/U: BTC 0.00809010
744  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: January 01, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
Hey.

I just invested on Havelock yesterday.
Bought 11 B.SELL as a test.
Will get some more, if looks good...

QA:
How and when will i receive my first dividend ?

Thx.

Answer ?

B.MINE will receive daily dividends until the fund is exhausted; currently there are enough funds to pay for about 131 days of dividends at this current difficulty. As the difficulty changes, the payouts to B.MINE change as well.

The goal of the fund is to keep 200 days of dividends on hand; if the difficulty changes (increases) enough that there are more than 200 days of dividends on hand, SELL will receive extra funds (over the 200 days worth) as a dividend. As you can see, 131 days of dividends is far lower than the optimal 200 days to have on hand, which is why SELL hasn't received a dividend in a while.

This has happened because the difficulty has leveled off in the past few months, leaving relatively constant payouts and diminishing the funds available. As an aside, this is BDD working correctly, not a flaw.

So, B.SELL may never receive another dividend; or, difficulty can increase significantly and SELL will then receive another dividend; the increase would have to outpace the payouts to B.MINE, however.
745  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 31, 2014, 05:45:57 PM
have b mine div been posted yet? Lips sealed

Havelock processed it late today, not sure why. Has posted now, though, and scheduled for next 10 days as usual-
746  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 31, 2014, 04:51:29 PM
Wonderful concept. This thread is required reading. Best of luck in 2015.

Thanks, I appreciate it!
747  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 31, 2014, 04:29:26 PM
Period 28, Day 0 Report - December 31, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 185.23731184

Total Units: 22723

NAV/U: BTC 0.00815197
748  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 31, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
Period 27 End Report - December 31, 2014


Previous Units              20065
EXCH Sold                   2658
Less Buybacks              0
New Total Units        22723

Previous Balance          182.61601119
Price per EXCH             Variable
Gross Sales of EXCH      24.11966348

Less Fees                    0.09639702
Less Dividends              19.46582280
Less Buybacks              0.00000000
Less Mgmt Fee              0.53027100
Net Balance            186.64318385

End of Period NAV/U     0.00821384

New Difficulty                  40,640,955,017
New Daily Dividend         0.00006187
New Reserve per Unit        0.01237400

New Reserve Less NAV/U = 0.01237400 - 0.00821384 = -0.00416016


SELL Dividend                 None (Because NAV/U is less than 200 Days of Dividends)

Days of Dividends On Hand    ~132.7

You'll notice that I calculate the new Dividend to eight digits and multiply that times 200 Days to get the new Reserve. Those of you that did your own calculations may come up with a slightly different number if you chose not to round or to round elsewhere.

New EXCH Sales Starting Price          0.00839653

NOTE:
I believe that the EXCH trial run went well, I'll continue updating the price as the reports go out. This should be every day, but there have been a few exceptions in the past and there may be in the future. I want to be clear that those that purchase EXCH are doing so at that price willingly, I won't be doing any refunds (for the price difference) for units purchased after 12PM but before the new report is issued / EXCH price changed, for example.

Happy early New Year!
749  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 31, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Well although I can't speak for everyone, I do have an account on CEX, and on their chat a lot of people were complaining of not making any money with buying the GHS's and the whole cloud mining. I myself gave it a hardy try, but even after a good 5 or 6 months I was still only loosing money with the cloud mining. I ended up selling all of my GHS's with a loss of about 1/2 of my investment. So doing the whole cloud mining thing (with CEX anyway) just did not work for me. The maintenance fees were killing me and that is why I lost money. I kept my account open just for trading purposes only. So far I have been investing in Bitcoin since Feb, 2014 and my best investments are with Havelock Investment funds. I doubt I will ever get back into any cloud mining at this point in time.

This year has been really tough for investment across the BTC space. So many have turned out very unprofitable or even outright scams; it's hard to believe that BTCT and Bitfunder closed down a year ago, I'm not sure if it feels like longer or shorter than that.

Keep in mind with BDD that it's meant more as a hedging or speculating tool - there isn't any real hashpower behind it and there is a definite end-game / maximum payout that can be achieved. So many cloud mining operations, GHS included, do very poorly when BTC is low due to the maintenance fees, however.
750  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 30, 2014, 05:18:49 PM
Period 27, Day 13 Report - December 30, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 185.80404523

Total Units: 22621

NAV/U: BTC 0.00821378
751  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] SCRYPT 4 GH/s hosted scrypt mining project by CRYPTX on: December 29, 2014, 07:07:13 PM
Its a scam cos they could. Twenty Seventy why dont you go back to running your own scam. Charge ppl money to buy units where the return and share price always goes down. So every week you can lose some value and not gain at all over any term of investment. Thats the future.

The value decreases as the BTC is paid out to holders of MINE or SELL or both. The decrease is planned and known about up-front. The hard part is telling the proportion that either side will receive. Read the contract and get back to me if you still don't understand how it works.
752  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 29, 2014, 05:06:46 PM
Period 27, Day 12 Report - December 29, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 185.54547308

Total Units: 22416

NAV/U: BTC 0.00827736
753  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 28, 2014, 06:15:24 PM
Period 27, Day 11 Report - December 28, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 186.87346604

Total Units: 22404

NAV/U: BTC 0.00834107
754  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 27, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
I have a question for twentyseventy. After the "End Game" does occur, are you going to do it again with BDD, the same or similar setup? I have enjoyed it greatly, and I strongly encourage you to do it again. I have had fun with it, as I hope you have and many others as well. Plus i hope it has been profitable for everyone.  Grin

Thanks, I'm glad you've found it helpful/useful/fun and I appreciate the comments. To be honest, I haven't decided yet - I know that some are looking for a more easily understood contract these days (with the prevalence of cloud mining, CEX GHS, etc). Depending on the difficulty, this could run for another few months or really for another full year. I'll begin nailing down my next steps, if any, when that time starts to come closer. Cheers  Smiley
755  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 27, 2014, 08:38:07 PM
Period 27, Day 10 Report - December 27, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 188.15786146

Total Units: 22387

NAV/U: BTC 0.00840478
756  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 26, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
Period 27, Day 9 Report - December 26, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 189.48250330

Total Units: 22375

NAV/U: BTC 0.00846849
757  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] SCRYPT 4 GH/s hosted scrypt mining project by CRYPTX on: December 26, 2014, 05:11:37 PM
Any idiot knows diff goes up over time - so did they know or not know what they were doing?

Did you? Clearly not if you're seriously positing this question.
758  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 25, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
Period 27, Day 8 Report - December 25, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 190.90823830

Total Units: 22375

NAV/U: BTC 0.00853221
759  Other / Archival / Re: list best investments in this forum on: December 24, 2014, 11:09:54 PM
Do your own research, and quit with the XCP/MSC plugs
760  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: December 24, 2014, 10:23:03 PM
Period 27, Day 7 Report - December 24, 2014

Balance Post Divs: BTC 192.17876914

Total Units: 22357

NAV/U: BTC 0.00859591
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