Per my comments earlier, I'm extremely disappointed with the lack of communication by ABitInterested. I do not want the responsibility of being the only one to hold is IRL identity. I'm one of the few people to which he disclosed his identity but the complete lack of updates, not returning my calls, and general lack of communication forces me to release his information in order for those who invested in him to get in contact with him. It's not fair, at this point, for me to be the one withholding it; he is the one violating the contract with his shareholders here.
If you are a shareholder, and you would like the pertinent information, please PM me with some sort of proof that you're a shareholder (comment from one of the threads from a while ago or something of the sort). I reserve the right to provide this to whomever I choose and to withhold at my discretion.
-2070
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Period 24, Day 6 Report - November 11, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 207.95533038
Total Units: 18455
NAV/U: BTC 0.01126823
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Period 24, Day 2 Report - November 7, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 208.38421040
Total Units: 18094
NAV/U: BTC 0.01151675
Period 24, Day 3 Report - November 8, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 210.11160980
Total Units: 18340
NAV/U: BTC 0.01145646
Period 24, Day 4 Report - November 9, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 209.00566230
Total Units: 18345
NAV/U: BTC 0.01139305
Period 24, Day 5 Report - November 10, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 209.12703833
Total Units: 18455
NAV/U: BTC 0.01133172
Thanks to everyone for their patience
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Have replied to most PMs.
Have called him three times last week and he's not getting back to me at all.
I'm currently in the middle of moving houses so that's why I've been away from the forums. Pretty much going to give him one more chance to come back up before doxing him.
Will be back here tomorrow to post BDD updates and issue the ultimatum post for ABI.
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Ow my bad, I didn't read correctly. I had put in the NAV/U of today instead of the one at the end of the last period.
No big, just wanted to make sure it was working right!
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Hi Twentyseventy,
I don't know how your excel sheet works but would it be much effort to post with every diff change how much next diff change should be in order to receive dividend.
Would help alot of ppl.
Cheers, EnJoyThis
Yeah, I can do that. Basically, your inputs here are the Current Difficulty, the NAV/U at the end of the last period (from the Period Report), and the Difficulty Increase. You'll have to play with the Diff Increase and see what value will get you to a positive SELL dividend. Once you've got the smallest Diff Increase that will give you a positive SELL div, then you've got your answer. Here's the link; you'll have to download it and edit it locally: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6foRwycUyraQkNWVVNOY1ZDdzA/view?usp=sharingThanks, downloaded the file and filled in the 'blanks'. To all readers: with todays numbers we would need to see a 16.7% increase in diff to get a 'positive' reserve fund. Cheers I believe all the blanks were already prefilled with this periods information, I came up with 15.4%
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Hi Twentyseventy,
I don't know how your excel sheet works but would it be much effort to post with every diff change how much next diff change should be in order to receive dividend.
Would help alot of ppl.
Cheers, EnJoyThis
Yeah, I can do that. Basically, your inputs here are the Current Difficulty, the NAV/U at the end of the last period (from the Period Report), and the Difficulty Increase. You'll have to play with the Diff Increase and see what value will get you to a positive SELL dividend. Once you've got the smallest Diff Increase that will give you a positive SELL div, then you've got your answer. Here's the link; you'll have to download it and edit it locally: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6foRwycUyraQkNWVVNOY1ZDdzA/view?usp=sharing
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Period 24, Day 1 Report - November 6, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 209.12156265
Total Units: 18059
NAV/U: BTC 0.01157990
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Look, SeedCoin, you can pick one or the other. If you think that the value is far in excess of your buy-back price, then you're doing the unitholders a disservice.
This comment was made as a personal hint to be taken in an ironic way. It could be taken out of context by some and given a more serious meaning. It is not a financial assessment in any way and should not be construed as such, it is a token of personal faith in SF1 since I have been deeply involved with SF1 for now more than a year as I started speaking with entrepreneurs back in Summer 2013. My remark, in case anyone missed this, is meant to draw the attention to the fact that I find IMO a hypocrite would have the audacity of blaming someone to see value where he/she did not only a few weeks ago. There is no 'value' for SF1 to be seen here other than the price of the last seller's price. In response to your comment I do not agree with your remark about 'doing the unitholders a disservice'. In order to know if unit holders may or may be better off we would need to assess what would happen if no one bought back any units and let these sit at BTC 0.00015 with extremely low levels of trading. We now give the opportunity to unit holders to hold shares in these startups, that may be a better option in the long run for these unit holders. Granted we do not give this opportunity to all unit holders and that is unfortunate; however, unit holders with less than 2,000 units had units which represented at the time of the consultation poll effectively BTC 0.3 (maximum) in bitcoin value, for which they will now get BTC 0.9 (maximum - or 3 times the last selling price). For those holding much less, anywhere from 1 unit to 100 units of SF1 (worth BTC 0.00045 to 0.045 at buy back price) for example and this is a common case among SF1 unit holders the unavailability of the share conversion option may not seem to be a huge problem, as seen during the consultation poll conducted in October. I've highlighted the part here that really matters with regards to my comment. I do understand that you're converting to real equity for over 2,000 shares but I find it unfair that you're excluding this possibility for smaller shareholders.
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Period 24, Day 0 Report - November 5, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 205.17807976
Total Units: 17626
NAV/U: BTC 0.01164064
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Period 23 End Report - November 5, 2014
Previous Units 16336 EXCH Sold 1290 Less Buybacks 0 New Total Units 17626
Previous Balance 205.60896969 Price per EXCH 0.01296383 Gross Sales of EXCH 16.72334070
Less Fees 0.06689344 Less Dividends 15.64354365 Less Buybacks 0.00000000 Less Mgmt Fee 0.32471880 Net Balance 206.29715450
End of Period NAV/U 0.01170413
New Difficulty 39,603,666,252 New Daily Dividend 0.00006349 New Reserve per Unit 0.01269800
New Reserve Less NAV/U = 0.01170413 - 0.01269800 = -0.00099387
SELL Dividend None (Because NAV/U is less than 200 Days of Dividends)
Days of Dividends On Hand ~184
You'll notice that I calculate the new Dividend to eight digits and multiply that times 200 Days to get the new Reserve. Those of you that did your own calculations may come up with a slightly different number if you chose not to round or to round elsewhere.
New EXCH Sales Price 0.01205525
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Could you offer some possibilities why the price dropped from the initial offer price of 0.001BTC to 0.00015BTC, a whopping -85%? As an investor, it really pained my heart to see the price of such a good security dropping so much.
Are the major shareholders in any way related to Seedcoin? Were all the securities sold to Havelock investors for all 4 blocks? Were there any securities unsold to Havelock investors and later taken up by Seedcoin or entities related to Seedcoin?
Not only 'should (SF1) be valued' BTC .001 - it should have been valued much more... I am glad you see it now, it is unfortunate you or other forward-looking, perspicacious investors or traders did not buy SF1 units during the months its price was sitting at BTC.00015 per unit or even lower. I am not sure I follow this argument 'however they haven't invested in many startups' when we have been clear we have invested in 6 startups and recent stories in the media have mentioned third party investments of Venture Capital firms of $15m or $20m in one bitcoin startup (for example).
Look, SeedCoin, you can pick one or the other. If you think that the value is far in excess of your buy-back price, then you're doing the unitholders a disservice.
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Have some business to attend to today so I will be removing EXCH at around 10AM instead of 11. Will be putting EXCH ask back up as soon after 12 as possible.
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Period 23, Day 12 Report - November 4, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 206.29715450
Total Units: 17626
NAV/U: BTC 0.01170413
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Hey twentyseventy. It seems some folks are looking for your friend ABitInterested, the one with the legit offline business. Care to help them? Or?
Will be pushing him this week to get his act together; otherwise I will be releasing his personal information so that people can seek to be made whole financially in whatever way they see fit. If I choose to do so, that is my prerogative and I will do so when I feel the time is appropriate. Not happy with him myself; I still have yet to recoup my initial investment.
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Period 23, Day 11 Report - November 3, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 207.45272159
Total Units: 17620
NAV/U: BTC 0.01177370
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Period 23, Day 10 Report - November 2, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 208.68383099
Total Units: 17620
NAV/U: BTC 0.01184357
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Period 23, Day 9 Report - November 1, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 209.90228014
Total Units: 17619
NAV/U: BTC 0.01191340
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Thanks for constantly updating this.
As the hashrate is heading towards 300 PH/s, can you please explain the difficulty change that is needed for a SELL dividend?
Sure thing. I'm actually traveling this weekend so updates will come today and Sunday or will do all catch up on Sunday night. The replacement value of any period is about a 6.5% difficulty increase. Obviously the last few periods have been running a deficit; will run the numbers on Sunday or Monday to let you know exactly what kind of increase is needed this time around for a SELL div. Okay, my handy dandy excel sheet is telling me that the difficulty needs to increase about 18 - 19% this period for a SELL dividend to be paid. We started this period at about 180 days worth of dividends, so that's a lot of BTC to make up in one period. Today's spike is pretty interesting, though - wonder if it will last!
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Period 23, Day 8 Report - October 31, 2014
Balance Post Divs: BTC 211.05735815
Total Units: 17613
NAV/U: BTC 0.01198304
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