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No, I am pretty sure he is just trying to sell you his nuggets that he has mined. People can still mine nuggets. They just can't get any VGB's until r3wt gets the code changed.
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The big name developers here are busy maintaining and developing for their coins. They aren't looking around to make quick start-up alt coins for whoever tosses them a few bucks. I doubt they would ever want to hand off one of their creations to someone with no skills to keep it alive for more than 15 minutes. And have their name tarnished by the fact they were creating these coins for people only looking to make a few $$$. And I am positive they would never allow themselves to get a star on their name to have 15,000 spam messages from people wanting them to create coins for them all.
You had one of the best alt coin programmers working for you. He missed a small error, probably due to the fact it was rushed out the door, and not properly tested. (Should have been tested for at least 2-3 days to ensure everything was working ok, and the Superblocks (VGB) were firing at the correct intervals. You said yourself when you launched it that you were unsure the VGB would work properly. That alone should have been a reason to give it some testing time. And now you have a programmer that is also decent. But your undermining him constantly, and forcing him to work more on damage control than fixing the code.
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What I can't figure out. Is how he managed to spend $1400 on buying a bunch of domain names, every time a name came up in his "give my coin a catchy name" thread. Did he figure everyone was going to rush out and steal his names??
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I wouldn't say lazy devs. I can't fault the programmer at all. He was paid about $20 to throw something together in about an hour or so. Then when it was supposed to be read over, Vlad got antsy, because he wanted his coin now, and he launched it. Even with a team of programming devs, you can't reasonably create a coin with any innovation in a few hours. The entire thing went from concept to launch in around 48 hours. And 40 hours of that were due to him having a hard time contacting a programmer to make it for him.
If Vlad would have given the project even a month, possibly some innovation might have come out, at the very least the code would have been proofread. But then again, his ideas are based on what he semi knows about 2 coins. So I have a feeling any of his other ground breaking ideas have probably already been implemented as well. The funniest thing is he wanted to do this without a programmer. Now he wants to pay someone another $20 to create a pool for his coin, with the statement he gets 50% of all the pool funds. LOL. He thinks we are against him wanting to become rich, but it's funny how he steps all over those that help him, in order to make sure the money is flowing in only his direction.
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____________ I think you fail to realize exactly what crypto is, and how it completely devastates the existing monetary infrastructure. The individuals who you believe are going to adopt this currency, and enact new monetary policy, would never do so. By doing so, they will directly disrupt their own highly controlled, highly profitable, and immobile ecosystem. Right now they have profitability, and control, and do not need any other source of disruption to their income. I do not know what 'top' school you went to, names are not everything. I highly suggest you go back to school and take a class on high technological innovation. look to the past and see what has worked, learn from the past and see what has failed. Ahahhahahaaa ha. A nice hard fork and the gov turns your secure and secret a bitcoin into the dollar only they have full control. Man, people are so naive. A digital currency would give the banks and the govt full control over you and everyone. A hard fork would change the most secure and secret alt coin into their open playground. So I don't think you know how things work. You think it's a coincidence bitcoin belongs to no one? How hard would it be for the president to sign a directive order to hijack bitcoin in name of natnal security and do a hard fork to see what terrorists and drug dealers are doing. Oops, there goes your secretive coin. Man, people are so naive. They're gonna let it go secretly cause foolish people like you actually buy into it. Then when they take it over every privacy you have left will be gone. You'll pay taxes on the $5 you gave your son to mow your lawn. Ahahhahahaaa. Man, its hard to imagine people actually are so blind. You don't know what a hard fork is, do you? I know MarkM know better than you. Mark, can the govt take over bitcoin and with a hard fork get rid of all the secrecy? TIA. I want to know where the secrecy is in the first place??? And I think you forgot, you are on the Internet. Do you really think the US gov't will tax me for the $5 I gave some kid to cut my lawn? LMAO!!!! |
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Lol r3wt, you just lost him again. I think it's time you walk away because you can't control him, and he has done enough damage to his coin that it would be far better for you to just launch a new one and watch his die.
Vlad, I see you still haven't learned to keep your foot out of your mouth. First of all, you keep trying to dazzle us with your brilliance. BUT, if you are a top grad from a top college, and know more as an economist than anyone. Why are you sitting there jobless and broke. You didn't do any research into what you were getting into. You just wanted a coin to catch an incoming possible craze. You have NO programming skills, and no knowledge about pretty much anything to do with cryptocurrency. For god's sake you can't even set up a miner. Yet you figured you could Develop a coin without the need of any programmer at all.
You claim to know all about cryptocurrency, and that you invented a totally new way to do things, which we idiots could have never imagined, yet you rehashed an old and already dead idea. Then you come back with, oh I only really read about 2 types of cryptocurrencies and that is where you based the vast knowledge. Next you figured you could give a programmer that charged you around $20 approx 1 day to design a coin and you launched it without waiting for it to even be read over. Now you try to blame that on others as well. You do realize decent programmers make more then bankers don't you??? What would you expect of a big business deal to be drawn up in 15 minutes by some guy off the street that charged you $15??? Even the coins with full time development teams take a month or so to properly test and work out all the bugs. We told you to wait, but you didn't listen. Only complained that we were going against your will, because you had your mind made up, then you launched these stupid polls, that you never let us hear the end of because we choose the smart way, instead of the way that would earn you the most money when the other idiots show up at the door looking for a Bitcoin clone.
And lastly, you want to make a coin that will be accepted as a valued currency, in the business world, the world you claim you have far more knowledge then us plebes. And you then make the symbol representing your coin to the business world a picture of Zoolander mining Chicken McNuggets??? WTF???
All the problems with the coin have 1 single point of failure. I am sure you are smart enough to figure out what that is.
I did do my homework and I paid the best programmer here not knowing 90% of the programmers here aren't really programmers. That was the problem not my plan, my plan was sound. Contain me? Are you a communist? I speak with respect to those who Crotosoze me with respect. Those who attack me like idiots well, they get a similar response. Show me one person I insulted because they simply said something to me in an honest manner while respecting my rights. You think you're the only one with the freedom of speech. You're not thinking again! I'd rather kill 100 of my own coins than give up my freedom of speech. Unlike you my family and I suffered and were kidnapped and tortured by communists in the eastern bloc for speaking our minds and for the simple fact of owning bibles. You think I lived through that as a 9 year old seeing my mom and dad beaten into bloody raw meat and nearly murdered in front of me and my 5 little brothers in broad daylight and I'm gonna shut up for the sake of a coin, for the sake of money or cause some small minded internet fool says so - I'd rather DIE!!!! Nobody will silence me. The best you can do is respect me as a human being and in return I will respect you likewise. Those who attack me unfairly because they lack a mind get what's coming to them. I don't mind criticism, but be human about it, that's not much to ask. I was talking about the fact you ranted about all the programmers here, especially the guy you paid to make your coin. You claimed to respect him because he was honest and didn't charge you more, yet you basically called him a complete moron, and your blaming all the problems on the fact he didn't have the time to read over the code, and he missed 1 small detail in the hour or so you gave him before you launched it. If you had waited at the very least until the code was properly gone over, none of this would have happened. And then you started going on in some godlike behavior that we idiots should not even be allowed to speak in your direction. Which is funny because I would have been pissed if my GPA was as low as 3.8. And why, when anyone offers you some advice to save yourself from the hole you are digging, do you break out in "Are you a communist???" You were asked to act like the business man you claim to be. Or at the very least a human. Nothing more, nothing less. We didn't say muzzled and beaten. Take that bible you claim to carry, and read about how you are supposed to treat others like you would like to be treated. Or how your supposed to turn the other cheek. Or was Jesus a communist as well??? |
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Lol r3wt, you just lost him again. I think it's time you walk away because you can't control him, and he has done enough damage to his coin that it would be far better for you to just launch a new one and watch his die.
Vlad, I see you still haven't learned to keep your foot out of your mouth. First of all, you keep trying to dazzle us with your brilliance. BUT, if you are a top grad from a top college, and know more as an economist than anyone. Why are you sitting there jobless and broke. You didn't do any research into what you were getting into. You just wanted a coin to catch an incoming possible craze. You have NO programming skills, and no knowledge about pretty much anything to do with cryptocurrency. For god's sake you can't even set up a miner. Yet you figured you could Develop a coin without the need of any programmer at all.
You claim to know all about cryptocurrency, and that you invented a totally new way to do things, which we idiots could have never imagined, yet you rehashed an old and already dead idea. Then you come back with, oh I only really read about 2 types of cryptocurrencies and that is where you based the vast knowledge. Next you figured you could give a programmer that charged you around $20 approx 1 day to design a coin and you launched it without waiting for it to even be read over. Now you try to blame that on others as well. You do realize decent programmers make more then bankers don't you??? What would you expect of a big business deal to be drawn up in 15 minutes by some guy off the street that charged you $15??? Even the coins with full time development teams take a month or so to properly test and work out all the bugs. We told you to wait, but you didn't listen. Only complained that we were going against your will, because you had your mind made up, then you launched these stupid polls, that you never let us hear the end of because we choose the smart way, instead of the way that would earn you the most money when the other idiots show up at the door looking for a Bitcoin clone.
And lastly, you want to make a coin that will be accepted as a valued currency, in the business world, the world you claim you have far more knowledge then us plebes. And you then make the symbol representing your coin to the business world a picture of Zoolander mining Chicken McNuggets??? WTF???
All the problems with the coin have 1 single point of failure. I am sure you are smart enough to figure out what that is.
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I would have prefered an alterboy kneeling before a priest. But anything goes.
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It's not a good idea to constantly make your programmers change things. Each time they have to make a huge update it really screws with things. These things are why you shouldn't rush from idea to launch in 48 hours. If you waited a few days, it could have had all the bugs worked out from the get go. You should have at the very least had the code gone over by a few different people before launching, and not rushed it out the gates. Another thing. This isn't the US Dollar. You can't just print more when the code says the rewards have stopped. Alot of the value your currency has in in how many coins are going to be printed. If you decide to double the amount of coins in the future, you drop the value of the coins in half. Don't think many people would be happy about that. My honest opinion would be to halt the Nugget. Take a month or 2 and make sure you and r3wt talk every aspect over, and get everything right. Give him and others time to properly check the code. Then relaunch the coin when it's ready.
And you fail to realize why these cryptocurrencies exist in the first place. The US gov't can't just announce they are closed. Of course they could 51% attack all of them, but that's another story all together.
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Just letting you know I think you have a typo on the original post. Says 440,000 Coins. But the premine is higher then that. Unless I am reading that wrong.
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Fair, as in the first 250 blocks had 0 reward. No one was instamining this baby. Took almost a day for the first reward to be paid out.
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what the fuck you can't just make the block rewards cease after 7 years!! thats ridiculous
If you read the Announcement. He stated that it was supposed to be a 21 year coin, but then he figured the gov't would never allow the coin to exist past 7 years, so he didn't want the rest of the coins wasted, so he bulk dumped the remaining coins from year 7-21 into the rewards for the first 7. After that the coin commits suicide. The coin can't even fallback to PoS to keep it going. (unless you can change that for him???). You jumped in on a doosie  |
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Just wondering. Are you currently looking into ideas that will make this coin a long term coin, and not one that kills itself in 6-7 years?
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What are you talking about? He is posting in the forums telling you to stop posting and digging yourselves deeper into a ditch.
BTW a bounty is supposed to encourage people to build a pool for your coin. Not to give you a 50% share in the pool because you paid $20.
And you are calling $20 (hefty fee) alot of money for someone to sit and re-program your coin for a few hours??? You do realize that is charity pricing. But you have an actual programmer (Who should be changing you 0.5 BTC per hour minimum) that is partnered up with you. He is online, and working on damage control instead of your coin atm. Lol, I thought you apologized last night and agreed to come out with a business face today.
My business advice for today. Do NOT poke the bear. You need IGotSpots more then you realize. He can kill your coin all by himself just by playing the difficulty ramp-ups r3wt isn't going to spend his entire day/life undigging you from the ditch you keep trying to dig. IGotSpots doesn't need you for anything though. So just grin and smile no matter what he says.
Also you're to impatient. I think you have this strange feeling everyone here is unemployed and their career is making coins for $20 a piece. LOL. Everyone sleeps, and probably everyone has a day job. Just because you don't see something going on every hour doesn't mean you need to freak out and start going around him, or he won't be around for you much longer. And you do realize without him here for you, that every time IGotSPots decides to push the difficulty too high, it will cost you a 0.2 BTC bounty to have someone go in and fix it the problem.
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Why is everyone calling it a protocol? Is there something I missed that is worthy of being called a protocol?
Try looking up protocol in the dictionary then ask again. Edit: I'll help you: Protocol: a procedure or a code for a procedure. The golden blocks are both. Vlad as your partner, i remove speaking duties from you at this time. lock this thread and i'll start a new one and i'll handle it. you're digging us deeper man. LMAO never saw that before. I was going to mention. Since you are a programmer, why isn't he asking you to help him create the pool instead of paying $20 to have someone create a pool for him, then give him half the pool fees. LOL |
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If it indeed survived the night (looks like it did). Vlad and team, the first thing you should be developing is a Mining Pool. Gets more people onboard to mine easier, and you can actually take a 1% cut, and people won't be offended.
Also, I don't know if it's to late to change the coin to a PoS coin?? Or make some major changes to it. But I don't understand why this is to be considered a longterm coin when it's designed to suicide in 7 years. I don't know if alot of people will put time/money into a coin knowing they have to be out of it within 6 years, or risk losing everything. PoS could save it. And you could market it as an eCoin (environmentally friendly coin) since power to maintain the coin will drop to almost nothing once the coin goes into PoS mode.
Per the programmer can't do a PoS coin as the VGB protocol won't work with PoS. I'll throw in another .2 BTC for anyone who helps me start a pool. this pool would have to me half mine since i'm paying for it. And half to whoever starts it, of course. And of course .2BTC for anyone who fixes the bugs and gets VGB To work right. And maybe you can skew the random reward in favor of the smaller miners if that's possible. Don't make it ridiculous just like a 30% margin of favor. Well you should ask him to check again, since there are many coins that have recently come out with PoW and PoS that have Superblocks (The real name for your VGB blocks, you didn't invent them) The way the coin is set up right now, it will pretty much suicide in 6 years. Since it would take you a year or 2 to get a decent economy going for your coin, why would you want it to commit suicide right away. As far as I know that is the 1 invention you did actually invent. Since I have never seen a suicide coin before. Most are designed to last a while. Why would someone pour money into it when they know they will have a hard time getting any of it out as the suicide date draws near. |
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Yeah, I know Vlad might not see it, but I believe r3wt knows that, and is working on fixing the problem.
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If it indeed survived the night (looks like it did). Vlad and team, the first thing you should be developing is a Mining Pool. Gets more people onboard to mine easier, and you can actually take a 1% cut, and people won't be offended.
Also, I don't know if it's to late to change the coin to a PoS coin?? Or make some major changes to it. But I don't understand why this is to be considered a longterm coin when it's designed to suicide in 7 years. I don't know if alot of people will put time/money into a coin knowing they have to be out of it within 6 years, or risk losing everything. PoS could save it. And you could market it as an eCoin (environmentally friendly coin) since power to maintain the coin will drop to almost nothing once the coin goes into PoS mode.
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Here is the page you need to fix up, the one most people have been talking about. I know it gets quite confusing when you have multiple launch posts up. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255936.0Take care. Hopefully the coin is still standing tomorrow. |
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Your apology is accepted for me anyways. I will re-consider mining your coin. Lol, that second line kind of slipped a little. But you finished it off nicely. Now hopefully you can put on a business face, and hopefully we won't be back to looking for an apology again tomorrow . |
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