Very interesting article, i'd advice everyone else to take a read, it gave a review about SuperBloom and what it stands to achieve in the blockchain, this is a project for all any time  |
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How much is the 500000 BTW worth in USD? I can calculate with the current market prices in that exchange, but I'm asking about the ICO prices. I mean, is it equivalent to having bought how many USD work of tokens?
ICO price was $0.12 so if you intend purchasing 500,000 BTW that should be $60,000. I don't know the current market price as they recently got listed on Coss, however i expect the price to be higher than ICO price hopefully given their proposed features and recent partnerships. Wow that's a substantial giveaway.. Have they said what the rules are yet? IE is it the top 10 traders or something? Its indeed huge giveaway and it would be a jackpot for the winners. Bittwatt is definitely a HODL category tokens on the other hand. Lets see how this whole listing and giveaway works in favour of traders. Yeah I agree with you Bittwatt is a HODL, it gonna worth very much in a short time, they have prove over and over again they are capable of really making huge success Interesting and promising tokens like BIttwatt should be HODLed and keep following for longer period to reap the full benefit. I will do that for sure and keep it for my kids. I recently got a ledger device for this purpose of keeping my stuff for a long time and even generation unborn, like seriously there are some projects that are here to stay for good, Bittwatt is one of such project, it's utility is not what will phase out in time to come |
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From my understanding the process for miners to earn HNY token involves being able to capture hackers trying to hack Bitfence network and then share this threat with Bitfence, once Bitfence validates the threat with Bitfence risk scoring mechanism you get rewarded. The whole process looks like fun i'll be sure to partake in this.
I generally do not mine nor am I comfortable with it though but owing the way the mining operation of Bitfence has been structured and with the fact that energy consumption will be minimal, this is where I do love to start mining Yea, mining does sound scary to me but from the comments going on here, is clear that bitfence have simplified the process and eradicate any need for sophisticated equipment or machinery, so is a welcome development and i'm pretty sure a lot of individuals will like to identify with this project, simplicity matters a lot in a project it will be as easy as the ABC. Buy Stingminer, plug in, let's start with the mining :-) I'm definitely going to get a Stingminer to hunt hackers with it:-) The more of us join in, the harder hackers lifes will be in the future Hackers would have it really bad with Bitfence StingMiners in circulation, it will reduce their activity to a very minimal rate if not completely eliminate them, i'm particularly looking forward to this type of project coming up in the cyber space, literally everywhere if needs be |
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YE I don’t think people realize they didn’t need to do the preloading sale they only doing it to make up for the fact they took away 3 days earlier in the sale so their giving people another chance for a few days to try to be fare to investors that missed out is what I’ve heard
Yes, its not extended ICO, its just they took pause in between to complete the KYC process. And I am happy, because this gave me chance to buy 4NEW tokens. Finally, the wait is coming to and end and the last stage of sales will be up soon. If you ask me, the present bearish trend of the market is ill timed  could have gotten more token with less Sorry guys, but I got confused here. As per my knowledge sale will start on 1st Jun, but on their website showing BONUS SALE ENDS IN 6 days and 20 hours. I guess they mentioned this by mistake? Or sale is started? Something I missing here..  You can get an early bird bonus if you register for the sale until 31.5. if the sale starts on1.6. there is no early bird bonus anymore. only that is meant. You can also see it as a countdown, until the 3-day sale starts Does anyone know how much the early bird bonus is? and does 4new already have plans for exchanges? This is what i got in the group May 16 to May 3: 10% In addition to the already stated bonus schedule and plans for exchange will be unfolded after ICO, for now the focus is heavily on June 1 according to what i see in the group |
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Hello Wapinter... Can I get a contact to speak with for community and bounty management jobs??
Thanks and in anticipation
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it's very important that unsold tokens are burned, not doing so just brings risks with it
Risk of which the investors share equal or even more of the ratio. However, I think this has been talked about before and burning was the conclusion of it. Yes, I also heard that they will burn unsold tokens. This is really needed if you want to growth of tokens. As far as i know they have also burned a lot of tokens right now and they have even raised the price per token from $2 to $4 for the 3 day sale. Where did you get this information from? There are still $ 2 / tokens left on the homepage, and I do not think they simply double the price for the 3-day sale. Maybe you are confusing something, because there are predictions that the token might be worth $ 4 after the tokenburn when it's listed on an exchange I think he got the information from the unofficial group where price speculation is allowed but unlike the main group no such increase has been established its still at 2$ per token even in the 3 days pre-listing |
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The power that bitfence hands to we the users - you and I - has never been seen before anywhere in the world and even in the blockchain, keep us safe and making us contribute actively in detection and prevention of cyber attacks by way of the StingMiner and honeypot, it's simply legendary and attractive same time
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they mention some interesting dates: Bittwatt organizes a golf tournament in Bulgaria. To participate would certainly be interesting. I'm sure many investors and interested people will be involved. Does anyone play golf here? And they are at the BlockShow in Berlin on the 28th and 29th of May. That's already next week. Let's see if I find time Golf games are actually gathering of the wealthy, the movers and shakers, we should be expecting such people around there in the games, I could see maybe that's the purpose though, anyways I personally do not play golf and never been around one just my TV  And no one can say what will be more important for Bitwatt: participating in Blockshow in Berlin or organizing the golf tournament)) You never know what to wait from such kind of events. They can meet there very influental people in the sphere. Well I'm quite certain that the both events will attract the right kind of people IMO owing to the fact that they are both intellectual and progressive concept that will impact meaningfully on the project |
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Thanks for the share, I especially liked the clarification that SEEDs are not securities: " It's not a security-- we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to learn the rules and regulations of the large countries to make sure we ARE NOT a security. SEED holders get not only ACCESS but FREE TOKENS from the vetted deals -- (we usually buy them )." Buy them tokens? I thought it's a part of the project responsibility to let go of some token in a airdrop-like fashion just like westart? Yeah, that's what she's saying, users who hold tokens get free ones, rather than usually buying them ( or that's my take on that sentence) You are right i think they mean they will give you the airdropped tokens for free by holding their Tokens, as they will give you it you do not even have to register for the airdrop? You do have to register for each airdrop, you don't just receive them by holding. The nature of this airdrop seem to be causing some sort of confusion. Seem like there is different interpretation as to understanding what was said by the team. Will be cool if they come and clear out the confusion and explain better though. Exactly according to what i saw on the whitepaper each member will have to manually accept each airdrop and i think a time frame will be give for that. I did not see any update about registering for the Airdrops. No mention of time frame, it was only stated that reward will happen at the end of that token sale where stake will be given out depending on the amount of SEED you hold at the time |
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very interesting, Cryptocean has 3 cap levels: lightcap: 3mio, softcap: 5mio, hardcap: 10mio
and as I'm seeing, there's a long pause between public-pre-ico and main-ico (15.6. - 1.9.). do you think that in the summer fewer people would participate in an ICO? Fall is sure to be a good time for a public sale
Hi, faulerwilli. A good observation, the team is now considering the possibility of revising the dates, but what decision would not have been taken ending the ICO and will remain 26.09 Whaaat? Now it's a $10m hardcap? Is it just me or are these figures a mess? What is the actual softcap/hardcap and why is there a huge amount of different figures everywhere? Also on the Dashboard when you login, it looks like the figures are wrong? It shows 'Expected '#70,000,000' but the total supply is 10,000,000,000, are you saying you only expect to sell less than 10%? Maybe this is the mess with numbers in USD and tokens? Anyway, this looks really strange to see such different numbers on the same website. Currently there is a pre-ICO, which is divided into three stages, Lightcap 3 million, Softcap 5, Hardcap 10. The dates were scheduled for 15.05-15.06 . After that, it was assumed that the team is focusing on the product, by 01.09 some services will be ready, after which the main stage of the ICO will be held, which was to last from 01.09 to 25.09 (softcap for this stage is $25 million, hardcap $70 million). The total issue of tokens is 10,000,000,000 tokens, at a price of $ 0.01. But taking into account the discounts provided at different stages, the total fees for the implementation of the project should reach $70 million. At the moment, the teams consider the option to change the dates in the following way: Pre-ICO 15.05.18 - 15.07.18 ; 01.08.18 - 25.09.18 . Pay your attention, date completion of ICO remains unchanged. This is really a long ride with your ICO, I think it will be the first I see pre-ico divided in to stages, 10,000,000,000 token issuance for sale is quite a huge number from my view sincerely, why such huge amount of supply? I know there is a platform to service with the token and also some other services... But I do like to know much more also We do not sell everything, it is a general emission , these tokens will be distributed in different directions.  This is pretty solid distribution plan and pattern, I'm particularly comfortable with the fact that not all the token goes at once, there is reserve which will kind of control the market volatility of the token... Thumbs up |
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Guys, have you heard about Vanig loyalty program for those who use their tokens? It is based on amount and frequency of token purchases and they talk there about some customer statuses (Silver, Gold, Platinum). I'd like to know more about this feature.
No, I have not heard of it yet. that sounds very interesting. I suppose the more you buy and pay with tokens, the higher you can go up in the ranking? is it like that? Then my wife is already after a month Platimum-Member :-) Since it's based on amount and frequency, I think just holding a certain amount of the token doesn't really do you any good in this, you have to frequently transact with the token. Like you need to meet both requirements. I hope am not misinterpreting though. If it is like described in the Whitepaper on page 30, you will get a status based on the number of purchases (over $25) you do on their site in the current year. 20 will grant you silver, 50 gold and 100 purchases will give you platinum status. Wow.. That's a lot of purchases.. I can see a lot of people getting to the platinum status but not me, i don't shop too much but i know people who will. Ladies do a lot of shopping  so if you don't do shopping then maybe your wife or your girlfriend m depending on the status you're currently in now will do... So get your credit card loaded |
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Guys, have you heard about Vanig loyalty program for those who use their tokens? It is based on amount and frequency of token purchases and they talk there about some customer statuses (Silver, Gold, Platinum). I'd like to know more about this feature.
We are possibly looking at the potential popularity of the platform through this process as people will want to climb up the radar of their purchase just to get their hands on the various prices of the various categories |
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very interesting, Cryptocean has 3 cap levels: lightcap: 3mio, softcap: 5mio, hardcap: 10mio
and as I'm seeing, there's a long pause between public-pre-ico and main-ico (15.6. - 1.9.). do you think that in the summer fewer people would participate in an ICO? Fall is sure to be a good time for a public sale
Hi, faulerwilli. A good observation, the team is now considering the possibility of revising the dates, but what decision would not have been taken ending the ICO and will remain 26.09 Whaaat? Now it's a $10m hardcap? Is it just me or are these figures a mess? What is the actual softcap/hardcap and why is there a huge amount of different figures everywhere? Also on the Dashboard when you login, it looks like the figures are wrong? It shows 'Expected '#70,000,000' but the total supply is 10,000,000,000, are you saying you only expect to sell less than 10%? Maybe this is the mess with numbers in USD and tokens? Anyway, this looks really strange to see such different numbers on the same website. Currently there is a pre-ICO, which is divided into three stages, Lightcap 3 million, Softcap 5, Hardcap 10. The dates were scheduled for 15.05-15.06 . After that, it was assumed that the team is focusing on the product, by 01.09 some services will be ready, after which the main stage of the ICO will be held, which was to last from 01.09 to 25.09 (softcap for this stage is $25 million, hardcap $70 million). The total issue of tokens is 10,000,000,000 tokens, at a price of $ 0.01. But taking into account the discounts provided at different stages, the total fees for the implementation of the project should reach $70 million. At the moment, the teams consider the option to change the dates in the following way: Pre-ICO 15.05.18 - 15.07.18 ; 01.08.18 - 25.09.18 . Pay your attention, date completion of ICO remains unchanged. This is really a long ride with your ICO, I think it will be the first I see pre-ico divided in to stages, 10,000,000,000 token issuance for sale is quite a huge number from my view sincerely, why such huge amount of supply? I know there is a platform to service with the token and also some other services... But I do like to know much more also |
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Thanks for the share, I especially liked the clarification that SEEDs are not securities: " It's not a security-- we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to learn the rules and regulations of the large countries to make sure we ARE NOT a security. SEED holders get not only ACCESS but FREE TOKENS from the vetted deals -- (we usually buy them )." Buy them tokens? I thought it's a part of the project responsibility to let go of some token in a airdrop-like fashion just like westart? Yeah, that's what she's saying, users who hold tokens get free ones, rather than usually buying them ( or that's my take on that sentence) I'm actually referring to the part where she said (we usually buy them) I.e she buys this token and distribute to SEED holders, if this is so, then I think I'm in a very responsible project, quite few of them if you ask me |
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they mention some interesting dates: Bittwatt organizes a golf tournament in Bulgaria. To participate would certainly be interesting. I'm sure many investors and interested people will be involved. Does anyone play golf here? And they are at the BlockShow in Berlin on the 28th and 29th of May. That's already next week. Let's see if I find time Golf games are actually gathering of the wealthy, the movers and shakers, we should be expecting such people around there in the games, I could see maybe that's the purpose though, anyways I personally do not play golf and never been around one just my TV |
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The goal for Stage 1 is 2000 Ethereum right ? What will happen if they don't reach that ? Will they just continue with Stage 2, because the hardcap is more than 2000 ETH.
I'm fairly certain that Bitfence will continue with Stage 2 of their token sale, they might even extend the token sale or reduce their hard cap total if they feel like they can set a more realistic target. I think problem is with the gap between softcap and hardcap. People might be thinking , Ifroject can start with small amount then why they need this big money. In my opinion, BitFence should change this hardcap. Well, I think it's a good thing - soft cap is nice and low so the project will go ahead no matter what; shows they have a good ambition. I'm not fussed about the big hard cap, the more money they have the easier it will be to deploy and get the project to the next stage Yeah Bitfence's hard cap in USD is $50,000,000 this is a very high figure and it is a lot higher than the soft cap of $3,000,000. It's nice to have big goals but I think the team needs to be realistic, I would revise the hard cap total and maybe lower it to a more achievable figure. If they said goal is 2000 ETH then how they will calculate this softcap amount. Because of ETH price is not a stable. Today it is hit low 575. Then how they will decide it their 3,000,000 amount USD? I agree with you, i think they should just stick to the hardcap based on ethet or rather use a fixed eth value to calculate the hardcap. I think they must have made their estimates based on a lower ETH price so that even the fluctuations in price will not affect them. Just my thought though. I Mean some other projects do similar statement of hardcap on ETH and they survive. So there must be a way round it. Agree. But how estimated price. I mean if $ 3,000,000 they need for soft cap as we know ETH continuously falling then how they will reach their target? I mean if ETH hit again 500$ then how they will calculate amount with 2000 ETH goals? I was already irritated from the beginning that they specify soft- and hardcap in Fiat, but everywhere else only ETH specify. We should really discuss this once in the telegram channel with the devs I believe they have the price of ETH pegged to 1 ETH = $600 USD hence why it is still 1 ETH = 6000 HNY tokens. True an admin talked about it in their telegram today when he said the price is pegged in dollar but 1eth = 6000 HNY in the website still despite the fluctuations of Ether, I didn't think I this direction, at least it's an advantage getting some token now So you get the 6000 HNY now a lot cheaper than a week ago. You just have to put fiat in ETH and buy HNY. Thus, the price loss of recent days has a positive side Exactly why project that peg around eth finishes on time or even gets a lot of sales compared to being pegged in USD, investors feels as though they are gaining more for reduced price, 6000 HNY at 1eth at today rate ain't bad |
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I must admit I don't understand everything on that side but I guess having the SEC approving your tokensale is a great sign. In this crypto world you don't want to face regulation issues cause that may cripple your project for good, being on the good side of sec is very key, it means you are at liberty to carry out your project without fears and then again I feel comfortable when sec approve a project |
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A beautiful ride so far, was really worth it IMO, I hope to see a very bright future with the energy project that is aim to make us own and profit from our energy especially the excess of it |
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what do you think, now that more and more power plants have been announced, is the Valuation Estimator still correct? Is not it rather the case that the annual income increases with each additional power plant? If so, then the team should quickly update the calculator before the 3-day-sale starts
I actually really think the estimator like cryptossi has said was calculated for longterm and that's why we could see a huge ROI projection moreover I think the projection is gradually looking like what could be a reality, we should have a rush on the 3 day pre-listing |
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It's being projected that in the next 20 years the global poverty level will decline from 20% to 15% as their will increase in number of people exposed to the mobile and internet, thereby causing a x3 spending power, what do you guys think of this projection? Is it really feasible?
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