It is certain that listing on Coss exchange will cause that the price fall down because:
1) Coss is a small exchange
2) Bounty hunters will sell their profits
3) 2019-2022 will be a working product
I agree with this summary. But do you think all bounty hunters will sell their tokens? I am not sure about it. I know lots of bounty hunters also HODL. They become smart these days. I agree, bounty hunters do the tasks for the tokens willingly and there is no reason to ignore that they might want to hold the tokens They do put a lot of their time in a project and i think they have enough experience to tell when a project is going to the moon then they will not dump for sure. People forget that in reality time is money so the bounty hunters throwing away at low values would be them devaluing their own time so while some will dump I’m sure others value their time and won’t dump for a low value Bounty hunters should be smarter when to sell their tokens, but with low value will not affect them. Waiting for a good time to determine attitudes in the token them get. For long term holders that outlook is very true, I wish bounty hunters would do the same. The truth is though, they don't really care, they likely won't follow the project any further and are simply looking to dump at earliest opportunity for whatever they can get ... It's then just a numbers game to do as many as they can. As they say, it all adds up. You're right, the moment the community understands that is not all about dumping but holding, the more profits we all will make, bittwatt is a nice project and the implementation that will enable it grow takes sometime to be implemented, is an energy project which involves a lot of paper work and technical skill, so the community should understand that but the wait is rewarding If the bounty hunters were to hold for a bit they'd get so much more for their tokens and not devalue the project they done the work for. I don't know why i feel very much in need for dumpers to dump so peeps like us have the opportunity to bag some more tokens  I personally will not discourage anybody from dumping because they will have themselves to the blame in the future, it's that simple |
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Speaking of dumping: When a new project is added to the platform and holders will get tokens as rewards based on the amount of SEED they hold. What stops people from buying more SEED just before the distribution and then dumping the coins right after the free tokens are distributed? Do they have a solution for this?
We can assume that the SEED Tokens will become more and more expensive over time and probably not worth doing. You have to own a lot of SEED, so that the participation pays off The more SEED you own the better the reward. I am not sure how the volatility is addressed but as more successful project go through the platform the likely the holders will grow and there is a limited supply of tokens so that would surely mean higher price per SEED. It's nice to know SEED will naturally rise in value because of the limited supply of tokens meaning a higher demand over a period of time Yes this is indeed good incentivizing mechanism to hold SEED, which is beneficial for the token holders im pretty sure I read that they would be burning the SEED they got for transaction fees and listing as well. Ofcourse they will list the SEED after the ICO. And you are right, they will burn the SEEDs that they get it from commissions which will eventually reduce the supply of SEEDs inturb increase the price in exchanges. The concept of burning is quite cool and welcome, it will sure raise the value of token although i don't bother much about the value increasing over time due to it's utility but i don't seem to understand the "commissions" part... how do they intend to get commissions |
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I see alot of people reporting their articles on multiple platforms and then submitting everylink in the spreadsheet.. Is that allowed..?
Check the rules, if it isn't there then it is maybe allowed ! Or you could also ask it on their Telegram if they have a bounty channel then it would be easy to ask it and get a answer. There is an Ann thread that is dedicated to bitfence bounty here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3270642He could also ask his questions in the bitfence telegram channel here https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@bitfence |
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Thanks for sharing this. I will definitely look into it later in the night. I hope i get some useful information about their progress in this video. Great ! There is a ton of information available on the video. A shame that it got so low views. They should post it on their social media accounts to get more views. I think it should also be added to the front page, but for the quotes so far I would have missed too, it has a lot of information like you rightly pointed out with only 97 views as at the time of replying this post, which is quite poor in my view |
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I like that they are going to list as soon as they end their token sales but I would be more happy if they list in another exchange that majority of the users are already familiar with, I know coss but I haven't used the exchange once and there is this thing about using an exchange for the first time, you do not exactly know their charges |
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Just few days to go for the start of pre-sales of Vanig. What you guys think about it? What would be your guess for the first day investments? Its like a guess game.
It really is a tricky to predict, it depends on how well Vanig's marketing has connected with potential investors, I personally think they have done a great job in terms of promotion, they have good amounts of members/followers on their social media platforms and it's an interesting project, fingers crossed it went well. Yep and on top of that throw in market conditions impact and it could go either way I’m pretty bullish on how it will go as the market as a whole is seeming pretty stable so people should be open to making investments Yeah if we are still in a correction period and the markets are still bearish we might not see a great start to the ICO, people forget how much of an impact the markets have on individual tokens. People need to have money free to buy into new projects and diversify, if markets aren't doing well then theres less to go round unfortunately and people start selling to cash. Market isn't exactly stable like you stated below, we would likely hope to see a correction completely later in to the year and by that period Vanig should be out completely with their project |
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The MVP sneak peak they put in looks really good, the UI is very clean.  Yea, looks good. Seems to be user-friendly and elegant website, easy and understandable for every person. This really looks good indeed. Love the theme color blue. And judging from the items seen in this photo, one can assume that they will be dealing on all products. This is to make clear a question that was asked few weeks ago about their product nich Yeah I think Vanig are aiming at selling products that are trending with customers worldwide, they are going to be picked by Vanig's expert buyers and they are also going to run an exclusive algorithm to find the most popular products and promote them to maximise profitability. Cool. That's interesting. So they are not jut going to brainstorm on what to sell but instead using an algorithm to pick products for their store. Intriguing Really? An algorithm that can calculate the preferences of customers worldwide? That sounds very interesting. Whether other providers also have such an algorithm? I think they just build the cool big database for this purpose or maybe they analyse the market worldwide and detect the best selling products in different countries. Anyway, you will need a lot, really a lot of data for this goal. I wonder from where they get it now. Wow that's machine learning at work. They can get dataset From existing platform. I have talked about this before. Vanig will be using machine learning algorithms to analyze the behaviours of customers and they will use the result to better serve the customers. That's really cool from their part. With the ease and transparency Vanig promise, I think I can relax my phobia for anything e-commerce retail, Vanig makes a whole lot of process both simplified and attractive also, I give it to them |
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I think the best part of this project mining feature is the plan to spread their mining options into different mining rig, the Asic, antminer etc, I think it's a solid plan to would ensure scalability and profitability I honestly think the mining is a great idea however I think selling to the national grid is even solid since there is always that demand for energy especially when you have various development projects pending. Very right and as an addition also especially as there is an increase in the number of blockchain technology and projects, we are looking at a future where there could be more and more advanced technology using the blockchain coming into the ecosystem, I'm of the school of thought that 4new is a far into the future type of project |
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"runs with no noise and heat"?? That's strange. Is the stingMiner not made of mechanical parts that undergoes mechanical motion? It will really be interesting to know how mechanical parts work without emitting heat. The StingMiner was built with light weight materials, the economy around it is such that there is almost insignificant loss of heat and quiet too unlike some rickety parts which makes a lot of noise to execute its functions |
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Speaking of dumping: When a new project is added to the platform and holders will get tokens as rewards based on the amount of SEED they hold. What stops people from buying more SEED just before the distribution and then dumping the coins right after the free tokens are distributed? Do they have a solution for this?
Hmmm, I have never seen it this way, I think Superbloom could work on listing tokens that are worth it, that has real life use cases, that are hard to dump and maybe not really in great quantities, I think they could work with this, besides getting a good amount of SEED token tentatively means you're a good holder as well |
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The MVP sneak peak they put in looks really good, the UI is very clean. Wow this happens to be the first time I'm seeing the mvp very neat, I like this, the way it is arranged and the colors is quite attractive they dealt with the way a typical individual perceives store |
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If you have solar panels on the roof and go on vacation, then much of the energy generated goes into the local power grid. And almost for free
With Bittwatt you can save the future in storage power plants and retrieve after the holiday again. Cool feature
You mean to say that we can stored energy our local power grid and whenever we want that we can use it?  Kinda like what Tesla did in Australia, built a huge solar capacitor that stored energy till it's needed, I assume as the token 'stores' 1KW of energy, if you hold 100 tokens, that's 100KW you can use as and when you want. The idea is simply fascinating and innovative, before now i haven't thought of an ability to store my unused energy to be used much later or even selling it at my will, the economy engineering of the project is very sound, was there any move to patent the idea by Bittwatt? Amazing right?, now i'm beginning to understand why some top brands hate the idea of cryptocurrency and the blockchain industry in general because it gives the community the ability that they will not like to them to have in the first place, so seeing users have such is like a sucker punch to them and will take away the privileges that they have over the community Yeah I totally agree with you. They will only delay it for a limited number of years but eventually it gonna be accepted and the community will finally own and control Information. It gonna be great future Watching a series recently that's not really about the blockchain gave me a lot of exposure as to how the blockchain has come to stay, it was the first time in a long time I will have to re-watch an episode after watching it before, the freedom and leverage that blockchain brings is intimidating to bureaucracy, it's against convention and ground breaking. And like the series it's going to take a bit of time but it is here to stay already |
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Just to clarify, the 20K USD minimum is for private sale stage. At presale and main sale you can buy as slow as 0.1ETH worth of Vanig Tokens and still get the discounts!
OK this is more clearer cos earlier on I was getting it all mixed up, thanks for this... What is the level currently of their Presale? When is it ending? |
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Great to see that there are projects where the advisors are giving value and not only being there for the show.
What I like about the Superbloom project is the fact that members receive a variety of new tokens valued at 10-20% of their SEED holdings. Effectively watch your portfolio grow by just holding the tokens, very nice way to earn a annually income That is a smart way to increase value of token. However I think the only thing that is still vague to me is how they are addressing volatility; as you know price after ICO can change dramatically. I don't think that will be in the hands of superbloom, that is more for the project team and holders of the token to decide. As we all already know dumpers are everywhere. you cant avoid such scenario of dumping. but after that stage and the team keeps on being active in the development of their platform. then theres no reason for its value to decline. usually the price of the token continue to decline if the community supporting the project sees that theres no reason to hold onto with the project and they feel that they need to sell before it totally lost its value I quite agree with this stance, project value greatly depends on the team then the community, I have observed that having projects come up time to time in a given project improve the image of the project and improve the token value as well also is the need of Vc and backers as well |
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Is there any airdrop available from Bitfence ICO ? I know that there is a bounty available, because there is a thread for that.
Nope and I’m hoping they don’t I rather they maintain a high value by giving away as few tokens as possible I think a limited amount for bounty and a small amount for marketing but for airdrop I find that doesn’t do much for the teams that have airdrops You're right, airdrop is good but has been known to cause more havoc than good because it took them little or nothing to get the tokens and is human nature to take free things for granted, bitfence has been doing well and is best they stay that way rather than open any door for free airdrops at the moment, tokens should be streamlined to be gotten through bounties I prefer bounties over airdrops too, you can get a lot more in a bounty then in an airdrop and a lot of people usually dump their tokens if they have received it from an airdrop. With bounties you get to do actual valuable work for the ICO rather then just supply a dummy email or join a page. I think bounties add more value when it comes to content generation that is mostly healthy for the community. Exactly, the project actually benefits from bounties with somewhat promotion, an airdrop is a way of advertising but not exactly for the right reasons, just advertising FREE MONEY essentially. I much prefer bountys as airdrops can impact a coin value of the project airdrops have become a real epidemic. some threads or telegram-channels were completely unreadable by airdrops and then I avoided these projects. Bounties are a good thing. i find it better, when i have to do something for the tokens. and usually, as a participant in a campaign, you get to know the project better and maybe you invest something yourself. The chances of you dumping a bounty token is very minimal compared to airdrop, it takes a lot to still hold an airdrop token because it was given completely free unlike bounty where work done is required, I think Bitfence has got some bounty running in bounty0x |
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I think the best part of this project mining feature is the plan to spread their mining options into different mining rig, the Asic, antminer etc, I think it's a solid plan to would ensure scalability and profitability |
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5 days left till the completion of the ico but unfortunately i don't know total amount sold and amount raised but i hope the sale has been a successful one.
Same here. These datas are unknown to me too and I just want to believe too that we will hear something good at the end when it's all been updated and made public. estimating from the bar on their homepage I would say that about 80% of the tokens are sold, but it would have been better to see numbers indeed Yep one of the few things I dislike is the lack of a live sold number I really appreciate when ICOs put that in place but bittwatt isn’t the first by far to use a generic bar for progress I guess it’s just an internal design/marketing decision Live bar makes following token sales activities easier to follow and one can clearly figure out the amount of sales that is made per day. The Bittwatt token sale live bar is good but it could be improved, I don't know if it's just my PC or if I'm missing something ... but I can't see the an actual amount raised in $ or a total amount of tokens sold? This is useful to track how close the project is to reaching their hardcap. Same here for both my pc and mobile but like someone rightly pointed out maybe they intend releasing it after ICO period, let's keep our fingers crossed |
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If you have solar panels on the roof and go on vacation, then much of the energy generated goes into the local power grid. And almost for free
With Bittwatt you can save the future in storage power plants and retrieve after the holiday again. Cool feature
You mean to say that we can stored energy our local power grid and whenever we want that we can use it? Kinda like what Tesla did in Australia, built a huge solar capacitor that stored energy till it's needed, I assume as the token 'stores' 1KW of energy, if you hold 100 tokens, that's 100KW you can use as and when you want. That's pretty cool, never thought of it that way, so holding bittwatt is like holding power in your hands, decentralization is really making scenarios we only see in movies come to life, this is probably the best technology of the century and projects such as these will give the population reason to be part of the blockchain industry Thats true. Holding BWT is like holding power in our hands. Thats what my understanding is. More and more partnerships from various countries comes in, more and more benefit for the token holders like us. I normally HODL my high quality tokens. BWT is one of the tokens for that category. Long term view for this token is very good as we see lots of partnerships came in as well as very efficient team. I am so holding this for sure, i can clearly see the growth of this already and the fact that some work has already been carried make it really, if we are allowed to make projections what's your best hodl period for Bittwatt?? |
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There's recently been a few various energy projects entering the cryptocurrency market. This one seems to be best poised to follow through with their plans.
They already are, two power plants bought producing 10 MW, another due to be built next year, and this other rumour in Puerto Rico. It ain't rumors bro, it's been confirmed by the team and its everywhere in the telegram group, one power plant to be set up in Puerto Rico is confirm news  Yea, the whole place is buzzing about it and i believe i saw that on YouTube, so is actually confirmed that they do intend to have a power plant in that country, this just turned out to be the biggest ICO of 2018, yea, is not easy pulling such feat, so is left for the community to hodl and i think they will because as the popular saying goes, action speaks louder than voice, 4new is giving us a taste of that and they should keep it coming I did not know that was confirmed news i thought those were talks. That is great that Puerto Rico is a in the books now. was a launch date set? None for now but we should be getting news soonest from them, if there is anything I know of 4new is the ability to sustain the tempo by bringing up news every now and then, such a relevance lol I really think if the Peurto Rico talks goes through and clears, there is a huge potential for a really quick expansion. Puerto Rico is a real case where there is a genuine problem in both ends 4NEW is trying to solve. This could in my opinion get the attention of governments. Yea, like i once stated, the business development team should be more focused on creating the power plants in areas where they will be much more appreciated because that's one of the simplest ways of getting an attention from investors and government, that aside, the market will also be a vibrant one as the community will be willing to patronize 4NEW I think that's exactly their focus and they are doing a good job at it also, I think they intend to spread out the remaining of their plants to this areas in need of such machinery and innovations so far this is what i have come to understand in the puerto rico move |
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Is there any airdrop available from Bitfence ICO ? I know that there is a bounty available, because there is a thread for that.
You could take part in the Bitfence signature campaign because Peculium has finished the bounty campaign and you're carrying the signature for free With Bitfence there is really a high reward, because there are not many participants in the signature campaign and as far as i know, there is no airdrop Great advice faulerwilli I carry the signature because of my fate in the project and no airdrop with steady sales of tokens is a very good sign They are paying very good rewards for just having a signature on your posts, as mentioned above; good chance to get some free Bitfence tokens which would seem to be do very well in the near future with the progression they are making Every sign is there, firstly they came out with a unique Idea in the blockchain and secondly they patented it now they are hosting a blockchain summit  it's a great project to be in |
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