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very interesting interview. I have not looked at everything yet, but I have noticed something important, if I understand him correctly, about 145mio tokens are to be burned, which is almost half of all tokens. and because of that they plan to increase the value of the tokens when listing $ 2 to approximately $ 4. That would be amazing! Can someone confirm that, did I understand that correctly? The token to be utilizing when burning takes place would be compliant with the energy produced. From what you are saying (I did not get to see the live steam yet tbh) burning is guaranteed to take place now right? I mean they raised 42 mil and the hard cap is at 72 mil. ICO hasn't come to an end yet, remember they are having a Pre-listing sales for three day starting on 1st of June to 3rd of June more tokens will be sold depending on how the sales go token burn will be the next step if tokens remaining after the sales. That would be great. By burning unsold tokens will increase value of tokens. This procedure really is profitable for tokens holders. A great incentive on investing in 4NEW is the point above. If all tokens sell - well that's really good news, and if they don't - investors will still be happy due to the coin burn resulting in a instant coin boost per token which is obviously good news for investors The project may actually not hit the hardcap to succeed, to me they've already started, i think they can work their way up from there, start small and grow big, the good thing is that, 4NEW produces something that the industry needs and something we all use everyday which is power, so the guarantee of them making sales is a sure thing It's very unlikely that they will reach the hardcap of 75m. But that's not an issue at all. They raised more than 40 million, already a lot more than their softcap was. So they have already a great amount of money to work with and there is still the 3-day-sale to come. I agree they already made a huge amount of money which they can do a lot of things with. I think that it doesn't matter if they reach the hardcap or not. $42.2 Million is a lot of money, and they have the softcap. Even if they fail the project will move on it will not stop. The 3 days sale can actually surprise us. I mean there are for sure big investors out here in the crypto world. There are huge expectations for the 3 day pre-listing sales. I really hope that they will extend this to atleast one week. 3 days is too short. On the other hand, whatever they get now is a bonus. I just realised that it took them weeks to raise 42 million usd and they are now trying to raise additional 30 in 3 days. Are we ready to see some real magic happen from June 1st?
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May 25, 2018, 04:35:22 AM |
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what do you think, now that more and more power plants have been announced, is the Valuation Estimator still correct? Is not it rather the case that the annual income increases with each additional power plant? If so, then the team should quickly update the calculator before the 3-day-sale starts
I think the calculator was based on the longterm plan for the 20+ plants that’s why it’s such a good roi for investors as part of the calculations. I don’t think they overlooked the fact they have an expansion plan since day 1 I think that is the case. However the number of tokens issued was meant for total power generated by the plants which I think the two plants. I am not sure what happens if another plant is introduced; I think most likely the KWATT representation would chance to conform to the actual KWATT.
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Does your token carry any functional load for your system or is it purely symbolic?
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May 25, 2018, 05:28:42 AM |
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4NEW offers waste recycling services that cover the whole chain - from simple collection of waste and processing to generation of electricity and further sale of the national network.
One of the big reasons why I think this project could be globally implemented with such a good problem solver to the world wide problem we have with waste. 4NEW has a good recycling system to dispose of tangible waste which converts to energy, what a great futuristic idea. 4new takes away waste from out environment keeping our environment clean and healthy and at the same time it converts the waste to energy, water fertilizers. Just by solving one problem it provides three benefits. They also generates wealth and causes posterity to the people and the nation' as well... 4new is looking at improving the life's of both those on the chain and outside it, they don't really mind who gets in but all are going to be better for it.. I agree with you friends. That's why 4NEW team recently won the award in India. I see more and more countries and organization will recognize 4NEW's work and they will be very popular in future
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May 25, 2018, 05:44:21 AM |
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very interesting interview. I have not looked at everything yet, but I have noticed something important, if I understand him correctly, about 145mio tokens are to be burned, which is almost half of all tokens. and because of that they plan to increase the value of the tokens when listing $ 2 to approximately $ 4. That would be amazing! Can someone confirm that, did I understand that correctly? The token to be utilizing when burning takes place would be compliant with the energy produced. From what you are saying (I did not get to see the live steam yet tbh) burning is guaranteed to take place now right? I mean they raised 42 mil and the hard cap is at 72 mil. ICO hasn't come to an end yet, remember they are having a Pre-listing sales for three day starting on 1st of June to 3rd of June more tokens will be sold depending on how the sales go token burn will be the next step if tokens remaining after the sales. That would be great. By burning unsold tokens will increase value of tokens. This procedure really is profitable for tokens holders. A great incentive on investing in 4NEW is the point above. If all tokens sell - well that's really good news, and if they don't - investors will still be happy due to the coin burn resulting in a instant coin boost per token which is obviously good news for investors The project may actually not hit the hardcap to succeed, to me they've already started, i think they can work their way up from there, start small and grow big, the good thing is that, 4NEW produces something that the industry needs and something we all use everyday which is power, so the guarantee of them making sales is a sure thing It's very unlikely that they will reach the hardcap of 75m. But that's not an issue at all. They raised more than 40 million, already a lot more than their softcap was. So they have already a great amount of money to work with and there is still the 3-day-sale to come. I agree they already made a huge amount of money which they can do a lot of things with. I think that it doesn't matter if they reach the hardcap or not. $42.2 Million is a lot of money, and they have the softcap. Even if they fail the project will move on it will not stop. The 3 days sale can actually surprise us. I mean there are for sure big investors out here in the crypto world. There are huge expectations for the 3 day pre-listing sales. I really hope that they will extend this to atleast one week. 3 days is too short. On the other hand, whatever they get now is a bonus. I just realised that it took them weeks to raise 42 million usd and they are now trying to raise additional 30 in 3 days. Are we ready to see some real magic happen from June 1st? 30 million in 3 days possible for 4NEW. Look at the progress of the project since pausing of ICO. They just not did the KYC formalities but energy prduction is started.
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May 25, 2018, 05:54:41 AM |
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what do you think, now that more and more power plants have been announced, is the Valuation Estimator still correct? Is not it rather the case that the annual income increases with each additional power plant? If so, then the team should quickly update the calculator before the 3-day-sale starts
I think the calculator was based on the longterm plan for the 20+ plants that’s why it’s such a good roi for investors as part of the calculations. I don’t think they overlooked the fact they have an expansion plan since day 1 I also think so, whatever possible return mentioned at 4NEW site is based on these 22 power plants which they planned to add by 2022.
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May 25, 2018, 06:58:38 AM |
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what do you think, now that more and more power plants have been announced, is the Valuation Estimator still correct? Is not it rather the case that the annual income increases with each additional power plant? If so, then the team should quickly update the calculator before the 3-day-sale starts
I think the calculator was based on the longterm plan for the 20+ plants that’s why it’s such a good roi for investors as part of the calculations. I don’t think they overlooked the fact they have an expansion plan since day 1 I also think so, whatever possible return mentioned at 4NEW site is based on these 22 power plants which they planned to add by 2022. Ahh, can any of the 4NEW team confirmthis for me? I did think the calculator was too good to be true, but would explain it if they had predicted this with the thought of the operational 22 plants
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May 25, 2018, 07:28:45 AM |
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YE I don’t think people realize they didn’t need to do the preloading sale they only doing it to make up for the fact they took away 3 days earlier in the sale so their giving people another chance for a few days to try to be fare to investors that missed out is what I’ve heard
Yes, its not extended ICO, its just they took pause in between to complete the KYC process. And I am happy, because this gave me chance to buy 4NEW tokens. Finally, the wait is coming to and end and the last stage of sales will be up soon. If you ask me, the present bearish trend of the market is ill timed could have gotten more token with less
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May 25, 2018, 07:52:39 AM |
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4NEW offers waste recycling services that cover the whole chain - from simple collection of waste and processing to generation of electricity and further sale of the national network.
One of the big reasons why I think this project could be globally implemented with such a good problem solver to the world wide problem we have with waste. 4NEW has a good recycling system to dispose of tangible waste which converts to energy, what a great futuristic idea. 4new takes away waste from out environment keeping our environment clean and healthy and at the same time it converts the waste to energy, water fertilizers. Just by solving one problem it provides three benefits. They also generates wealth and causes posterity to the people and the nation' as well... 4new is looking at improving the life's of both those on the chain and outside it, they don't really mind who gets in but all are going to be better for it.. When you do something good, people will like to know more about you, so in the case of 4new, they tend to solve something that will be beneficial to all and when they do, people will like to know more about them and guess what, that's like bringing the blockchain industry to limelight, that's why i'm here, i'm really passionate about this and the blockchain industry because of the benefits that is embedded in them
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May 25, 2018, 09:13:26 AM |
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what do you think, now that more and more power plants have been announced, is the Valuation Estimator still correct? Is not it rather the case that the annual income increases with each additional power plant? If so, then the team should quickly update the calculator before the 3-day-sale starts
I actually really think the estimator like cryptossi has said was calculated for longterm and that's why we could see a huge ROI projection moreover I think the projection is gradually looking like what could be a reality, we should have a rush on the 3 day pre-listing
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May 25, 2018, 09:23:33 AM |
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it's very important that unsold tokens are burned, not doing so just brings risks with it
Risk of which the investors share equal or even more of the ratio. However, I think this has been talked about before and burning was the conclusion of it. Yes, I also heard that they will burn unsold tokens. This is really needed if you want to growth of tokens. As far as i know they have also burned a lot of tokens right now and they have even raised the price per token from $2 to $4 for the 3 day sale. Are you sure about that they are going to increase price of per token till 4$? I mean I did not found that information.
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Darkoth89
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May 25, 2018, 09:42:34 AM |
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what do you think, now that more and more power plants have been announced, is the Valuation Estimator still correct? Is not it rather the case that the annual income increases with each additional power plant? If so, then the team should quickly update the calculator before the 3-day-sale starts
I actually really think the estimator like cryptossi has said was calculated for longterm and that's why we could see a huge ROI projection moreover I think the projection is gradually looking like what could be a reality, we should have a rush on the 3 day pre-listing The calculator was based on additional plants being added each year, so it's already factored into it
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May 25, 2018, 09:54:47 AM |
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it's very important that unsold tokens are burned, not doing so just brings risks with it
Risk of which the investors share equal or even more of the ratio. However, I think this has been talked about before and burning was the conclusion of it. Yes, I also heard that they will burn unsold tokens. This is really needed if you want to growth of tokens. As far as i know they have also burned a lot of tokens right now and they have even raised the price per token from $2 to $4 for the 3 day sale. Where did you get this information from? There are still $ 2 / tokens left on the homepage, and I do not think they simply double the price for the 3-day sale. Maybe you are confusing something, because there are predictions that the token might be worth $ 4 after the tokenburn when it's listed on an exchange
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Darkoth89
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May 25, 2018, 11:21:57 AM |
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it's very important that unsold tokens are burned, not doing so just brings risks with it
Risk of which the investors share equal or even more of the ratio. However, I think this has been talked about before and burning was the conclusion of it. Yes, I also heard that they will burn unsold tokens. This is really needed if you want to growth of tokens. As far as i know they have also burned a lot of tokens right now and they have even raised the price per token from $2 to $4 for the 3 day sale. Where did you get this information from? There are still $ 2 / tokens left on the homepage, and I do not think they simply double the price for the 3-day sale. Maybe you are confusing something, because there are predictions that the token might be worth $ 4 after the tokenburn when it's listed on an exchange yeah, that's absolutely false, it's still $2 USD per KWATT on their website and dashboard.
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May 25, 2018, 11:46:23 AM |
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YE I don’t think people realize they didn’t need to do the preloading sale they only doing it to make up for the fact they took away 3 days earlier in the sale so their giving people another chance for a few days to try to be fare to investors that missed out is what I’ve heard
Yes, its not extended ICO, its just they took pause in between to complete the KYC process. And I am happy, because this gave me chance to buy 4NEW tokens. Finally, the wait is coming to and end and the last stage of sales will be up soon. If you ask me, the present bearish trend of the market is ill timed could have gotten more token with less Sorry guys, but I got confused here. As per my knowledge sale will start on 1st Jun, but on their website showing BONUS SALE ENDS IN 6 days and 20 hours. I guess they mentioned this by mistake? Or sale is started? Something I missing here..
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May 25, 2018, 11:50:00 AM |
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I just logged in 4New website and just check if I am investing 1 ETH here then how much I'll get with bonus. Calculation is below: Coin Price 2 USD
1 ETH = 298.54 KWATT
5% Bonus =14.92 KWATT
Total Coins = 313.467000 KWATTThis is not ends here. REFER A FRIEND & EARN 30% ON KWATTS PURCHASEDAfter your purchase you will get 30% on your referral purchase.
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I just logged in 4New website and just check if I am investing 1 ETH here then how much I'll get with bonus. Calculation is below: Coin Price 2 USD
1 ETH = 298.54 KWATT
5% Bonus =14.92 KWATT
Total Coins = 313.467000 KWATTThis is not ends here. REFER A FRIEND & EARN 30% ON KWATTS PURCHASEDAfter your purchase you will get 30% on your referral purchase. It’s still a damn solid deal at this late in the game I’m surprised they even offered a bonus at this point but I guess every ico needs a little bit of bonus at each stage to insure investors of a wise buy. Hopefully we see a good final rally before listings start
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May 25, 2018, 01:06:34 PM |
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I just logged in 4New website and just check if I am investing 1 ETH here then how much I'll get with bonus. Calculation is below: Coin Price 2 USD
1 ETH = 298.54 KWATT
5% Bonus =14.92 KWATT
Total Coins = 313.467000 KWATTThis is not ends here. REFER A FRIEND & EARN 30% ON KWATTS PURCHASEDAfter your purchase you will get 30% on your referral purchase. It’s still a damn solid deal at this late in the game I’m surprised they even offered a bonus at this point but I guess every ico needs a little bit of bonus at each stage to insure investors of a wise buy. Hopefully we see a good final rally before listings start They have put a really good set of announcements and I think the last one of their talks with Puerto Rico is really big if it this gets through; We are talking governments would be engaging with 4NEW. Can't wait to see what the talks resulted in.
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May 25, 2018, 01:10:56 PM |
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YE I don’t think people realize they didn’t need to do the preloading sale they only doing it to make up for the fact they took away 3 days earlier in the sale so their giving people another chance for a few days to try to be fare to investors that missed out is what I’ve heard
Yes, its not extended ICO, its just they took pause in between to complete the KYC process. And I am happy, because this gave me chance to buy 4NEW tokens. Finally, the wait is coming to and end and the last stage of sales will be up soon. If you ask me, the present bearish trend of the market is ill timed could have gotten more token with less Sorry guys, but I got confused here. As per my knowledge sale will start on 1st Jun, but on their website showing BONUS SALE ENDS IN 6 days and 20 hours. I guess they mentioned this by mistake? Or sale is started? Something I missing here.. Hmmm, I also thought the pre-listing-sale is going to start on June 1st and I didn't hear anything different. Probably that timer is counting down to the start of the sale and not to the end?
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May 25, 2018, 02:49:43 PM |
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I just logged in 4New website and just check if I am investing 1 ETH here then how much I'll get with bonus. Calculation is below: Coin Price 2 USD
1 ETH = 298.54 KWATT
5% Bonus =14.92 KWATT
Total Coins = 313.467000 KWATTThis is not ends here. REFER A FRIEND & EARN 30% ON KWATTS PURCHASEDAfter your purchase you will get 30% on your referral purchase. It’s still a damn solid deal at this late in the game I’m surprised they even offered a bonus at this point but I guess every ico needs a little bit of bonus at each stage to insure investors of a wise buy. Hopefully we see a good final rally before listings start They have put a really good set of announcements and I think the last one of their talks with Puerto Rico is really big if it this gets through; We are talking governments would be engaging with 4NEW. Can't wait to see what the talks resulted in. Yea, that's the point that i have been stressing, 4NEW is going global, once the attention has been created, there is no doubt that the project will be a known name, as they are trying to alleviate the sufferings of the community in terms of waste and the introduction of alternative power supply that will help curtail the impending power issue that may arise in the blockchain industry
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