Personally I am not switching into any ERC20 where one person holds all funds
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4.6MM HBN 3.6% is quite the bag!
Considering the next nearest 4MM+ wallet has been inactive since 2018! (Cryptopia?)
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Spot the folks around pre 2013-14
Classic.... That's not what MAX_MONEY does
Hugely rusty but .....
I think it's only used as a sanity check while building transactions (you can't send more coins than there will ever be)
The reward is way more complex (at least in BTC) where the calculation is done from multiple halvings of the orignial 50 BTC per block.
In a file that does not exist in HBN .. Validation.cpp ---------- getsubsidy or some such function
You'd have to do some digging around in the code for HBN
I'm pretty sure HBN will just stake straight off the end of 120mm and keep going.
DYOR
Thank you for your reference and explanations. Since HBN apparently has an infinite max supply, sooner or later that will also affect the price. At this point we will adjust the max supply on the social media profiles, because we don't want to fool the users who don't read any code. We will keep the limit of 120 million tokens in the HOBO project. Soon we will also start our own thread. Stay tuned. Don't take my word for it, I'm not the dev, read the code yourself. It's going to require some thinking and a little bit of math. You are the ones wanting to "further HBN" by instamining a new unrelated token and trying to get people send coins to an (unproven) burn address. Here's my next question ... please prove to me that the burn address is just that and not just some random address you hold the keys for ..... Stop posting about things you don't understand until you understand it. Or just leave stuff alone. Well, all the coins getting burned to the following Address: EgVWUh8o98knojjwqGKqVGFkQ9m5BDNc9G If you send any amount to this address you see the output to something like https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/tx.dws?12139158.htm"vout": [ { "value": 31.999, "n": 0, "scriptPubKey": { "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex": "76a914000000000000000000000000000000000000000088ac", "reqSigs": 1, "type": "pubkeyhash", "addresses": [ "EgVWUh8o98knojjwqGKqVGFkQ9m5BDNc9G" ] } } As you see this values are invalid as the private key can't be calculated from it. It's simply not possible to calculate something of zero. Now tell me why this address is a (unproven) burning address? Great, just want your explanation out in public. People can research for themselves. I'm more than happy for HBN to actually get burned. I'd debate the value of proposition for HOBO and whether burning HBN creates value for HOBO or benefits the native chain more. The market can decide that. IF HBN is infinite, no one has bothered to work it out publicly, You are now in a position where more HBN can be burned than can be redeemed on the HOBO token. Anyways I guess no one is off to Freiexchange and buying up all the HBN to lever this moon opportunity just yet. |
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Spot the folks around pre 2013-14
Classic.... That's not what MAX_MONEY does
Hugely rusty but .....
I think it's only used as a sanity check while building transactions (you can't send more coins than there will ever be)
The reward is way more complex (at least in BTC) where the calculation is done from multiple halvings of the orignial 50 BTC per block.
In a file that does not exist in HBN .. Validation.cpp ---------- getsubsidy or some such function
You'd have to do some digging around in the code for HBN
I'm pretty sure HBN will just stake straight off the end of 120mm and keep going.
DYOR
Thank you for your reference and explanations. Since HBN apparently has an infinite max supply, sooner or later that will also affect the price. At this point we will adjust the max supply on the social media profiles, because we don't want to fool the users who don't read any code. We will keep the limit of 120 million tokens in the HOBO project. Soon we will also start our own thread. Stay tuned. Don't take my word for it, I'm not the dev, read the code yourself. It's going to require some thinking and a little bit of math. You are the ones wanting to "further HBN" by instamining a new unrelated token and trying to get people send coins to an (unproven) burn address. Here's my next question ... please prove to me that the burn address is just that and not just some random address you hold the keys for ..... Stop posting about things you don't understand until you understand it. Or just leave stuff alone. |
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This MAX_MONEY thing doesn't mean a real shit. It's just how many coins may be sent in a single tx. Can put a gazillion there and the wallet will work just fine.
HAHA .. A man can't even make a cuppa mid rant before someone gets a post in in front of him ...... |
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Spot the folks around pre 2013-14
Classic.... That's not what MAX_MONEY does
Hugely rusty but .....
I think it's only used as a sanity check while building transactions (you can't send more coins than there will ever be)
The reward is way more complex (at least in BTC) where the calculation is done from multiple halvings of the orignial 50 BTC per block.
In a file that does not exist in HBN .. Validation.cpp ---------- getsubsidy or some such function
You'd have to do some digging around in the code for HBN
I'm pretty sure HBN will just stake straight off the end of 120mm and keep going.
DYOR
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So we burn Blockchain POW/POS coins for a fraction share of 120MM instaprint erc20 tokens
Sounds legit
What the burn address?
And How does a UTXO blockchain not provide the senders address in a reliable way ... Honest question
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Still wondering how Poloniex can create transactions that are never broadcast to the network.
Is there an issue with their CLAM client?
How do they fix the problem?
And why is this ongoing?
Probably a security thing. Not sure on CLAM but createrawtransaction signrawtransaction sendrawtransaction Are separate commands enabling the creation of a valid transaction but delay broadcast to suit needs. Maybe of interest. https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-examples#simple-spendingPerhaps Polo implementation is cockeyed somehow. |
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Got some CLAMS stuck after withdrawal, contacted Poloniex support. How long does it take to solve this? I know that this is common issue, I wonder how much time do they need to "recover" my coins. Thanks.
I've got coins stuck with a fake txid on Poloniex as well since Sunday now. This is why we created Swap. We have LOTS of CLAMS for sale right now and our shit counts confirmations right/fucking works. Yes, I know and I might use it in the future. But.. are they able to recover the coins and how long does it take? Some people here do have experience with this. Thanks. I've had this happen a couple of time and not just with CLAM. Their CLAM wallet is a repeat offender in both directions. The problem gets resolved with a support ticket. Time depends on how busy they've been. Recent tweets boasting of clearing tickets recently .. so ... should all come out in the wash for you soon. **edit ** My understanding is . They haven't "lost" the coins .. they have created and posted you a transaction which never got broadcast to the network. Bit like forgetting to post a birthday card .. intent was there and you can put as many stamps on as you like .. if you don't hand it to the post office .... it ain't getting there. |
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Probably deadcat bounce, but nonetheless it's manipulation driven moves. I mean you can trade it (it's your risk), but if 1-2 people are controlling walls then it's very easy for liquidity to dry up.
I agree with you. Our trading could based on technical analysis, some signals of traders, but no one technical analysis can't predict future price when coin is under manipulation. manipulators have patterns too |
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5% = 70M
Ferengi! I know you're just in character but whenever you cross my horizon something shifty is either happening or just about to happen. No coincidences in crypto just math and probability ... |
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whats the staking rate of this coin .
let stake example if I have deposited 100 CLAMS then how much i will get per day or week as per staking procedure..?
Real world on Just-Dice An invested deposit from Jan 2018 yields ~30% (29.4) This is the 2018 bear so .... currently a whopping USD loss and a modest BTC gain. Can't confirm the CLAM client results at this time. Should be slightly better if you consider site commission but JD performance will also vary on the profits from house edge. Running your own client is definitely more erratic in rewards as you might expect. Your Keys, Your Coins. Rule of thumb used to be (a year or so ago) 1k Clams gets you a clam a day. Likely need a few more for that same return now. |
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Try WEX.FIT
Can you login at wex.fit ? I can't login there.  Hope that link never turns to WEX.IT |
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small party today, predelisted (from bittrex) prices
Rather a Bunga-bunga party - 65% gains in like 8 hours  Clams (CLAM) $1.67 USD (65.44%) 0.00044326 BTC (65.56%) Staking from early December (On Just-Dice) breaks even to slight profit in BTC terms ... Not many alts doing that right now. |
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OK right, that would make sense. Who is maintaining it? Tranz? |
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I disagree, if there is no liquidity , what would be the incentive to keep interest in the coin? Interest will go to zero , and blockchain will be kept just by few romantic stakers for nothing.
Anyway Tranz doesnt have much time longterm ( completely off for 2 years , and since than just a disaster recovery of blockchain) . Apart of that nothing really happen to HBN since 2014.
I had a hope and gave a hand and even own fiat money for good things which support the coin . But now this hope is on minimum level
That's fine you make some good points but from my perspective it's a little different. Unless they can show me some competence in running an exchange and staking pool none of my money of coins will ever go there. In effect there is no HBN exchange I'm willing to use. It's true we can't choose an exchange to list HBN. Bigger problem is we can't choose who lists HBN. We can vote with our business though. I now find I am unable to rotate the market and rebuy stakes sold at higher prices. Pity as I still can with all my other POS coins. I'm also happy to be a romantic staker. Someone will thank us romantics one day  |
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unfortunately we are not in situation that we can choose exchanges . If there is persistent development and business developement this coins is in more convenient situation and we can trade on multiple exchanges
Rather have no exchange than an incompetent one. When all this hype dies off and nobody can remember the names of 2017s ICOs HBN will still be here. exchange or not. It's a well worked, time served blockchain that only need rely on it's own code. Most of these exchanges are going to shut up shop soon anyway, this party season is over. |
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Hey everyone.
So I have been working a bit with BTCPop. Back a while ago they were staking on the wrong chain. Due to this they are unable to process withdraws until they are back to even. As such, we have the ability if we want to help them out. The est amount they are down is 130k. We can either try to donate funds to get them to even, or they suggested they will also pay a "reasonable" price for some, maybe half the market place?
I don't' have full details yet, but I wanted to get everyone's feed back first. I will continue to do due diligence to make sure this is all on the up and up.
Also has anyone had any success with other exchanges?
Thanks,
Tranz
I would be willing to donate 30k HoboNickels, if BTCPop gives us the guarantee not to delist HoboNickels in the next time. If there are other people donating, we'll probably get the 130k together. Maybe it would be good if you could set up a donation address for it. Otherwise I could not achieve anything at other exchanges. Priceless.... Nothing like owning your mistakes. But shit happens. I might be willing to make them whole if they DM me and we can agree reasonable terms. That'd be pretty generous of you if you add the rest. Let's hear what Tranz has to say about it and how we do it at best. This is the power of the community, they all give a little of themselves in order to save space for the project. I dont know what to say, but probably the developers should cover this from their own fund if I am not mistaken? Except this is not a developers problem, this is not a code issue as far as I am aware. BTCpop have taken on the custodian responsibility to stake client coins. They have a responsibility for other peoples money and the opportunities offered by POS, Meaning If they accidentally burn electricity mining the wrong fork ? They own that risk. They would then need to apologise for being inefficient stakers and causing lost client stake opportunity. Not bill you for power they wasted If they Allow withdrawals from accounts for coins that don't exist in their wallets because they are on a fork They own that risk. Their wallet should be in sync and coin existence confirmed before the withdraw issued. Again BTCpop are liable ^^^ THIS ONE IS AS BASIC AS IT GETS ^^^ The very least they can do is to keep the wallet on chain and be at least 85% as efficient as staking for yourself. What they absolutely must not do is send coins they haven't got to withdrawal addresses I think most of us manage our own wallets. From time to time an issue arises they we don't all come on here and demand our orphan blocks and stake rewards from Tranz do we? No, we get our asses back on the right chain (maybe with a little community support) and get back to staking HBN Whole idea seems nuts to me to be honest. Giving your coins to someone else to stake  really ... HBN is old school 2013 coin .. we all know better by now surely. (having said that I was considering offering a staking service at one point as HBN can be a memory hog) As I said I'm willing to help out, but, I'm not just going to cough up coins for incompetence. |
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