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541  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: November 13, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
is any one here who is interested on working with the HF open protocol?

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=332592
542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 13, 2013, 01:28:50 PM
thank you all very much for the feedback of my question.

Today is my first day of october delivery with 550 Gh/s.

I´m happy that the calc on the genesis block shows not the real estimated diff.

Thanks Bitcoinorama, for your clear answer, now i understand it a little bit better.


My thought / calculation is:

The price for one oz gold >= the cost for mining it,
also the price for one btc will not be lower than the price to mine it.

Thinking about an 90 day break even point (bep). Every BTC after bep is your roi

5500 USD cost 500 Gh/s = +- 8 to 9 BTC within this time (start mining dec 2013)

5500 USD / 9 BTC = 611 USD per BTC in march 2014.

For this! To all BTC owner´s: "Don´t sell it under 600 USD!"

As more people own BTC which only speculate with it, as harder it will be to fix the price on the next level.



Sorry my english, i´m only an stupid spanish german
543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 13, 2013, 09:16:41 AM
can anyone explain me in which case the difficulty will grow and grow?

Is it not depending also on the hashing power?

When i look to http://mining.thegenesisblock.com

it will not be possible to mine one btc, when start mining with 1,2 Th/s (like the sierra from HF) in June 2014.
544  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Hashfast Open Source Interface Protocol on: November 13, 2013, 08:32:21 AM
The documentation found here:
https://hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gn_protocol.pdf

Information source:

https://hashfast.com/golden-nonce-interface-protocol-released/

Introducing The Global Work Queue.

HashFast aims to make mining easier and more efficient – a necessity when building and using terrahash mining systems. HashFast is also dedicated to supporting the open source community.

Going forward it is clear that the less work the miner has to do to get devices working the better. What the miner apps should be doing is deriving work (from a Stratum server), pushing that work out to devices, and getting back nonces and device status. Managing individual cores in every die/ASIC in a 6 foot rack is just not sensible. Devices themselves should do the grunt work, leaving the mining app to do what it does best.

We had an opportunity to do this – because (a) we had already built advanced mechanisms in our serial protocol that allow work multiplication and dispersal – group and multicast mechanisms, ntime rolling etc., and (b) our USB interface has programming capability. As such, we are able to offer three interface mechanisms:

1.  ASIC serial – useful for vendors who wish to make their own boards and interface means to the ASIC

2.  USB mapped serial – USB interface but all of the low level serial protocols available, data CRC not required/present

3.  USB Global Work Queue – A higher level interface that just involves work flow to the device and nonce flows back to host

The driver for CGminer (to be published on github soon) will use the Global Work Queue.

Today, we are releasing our interface protocol document that describes these three mechanisms, and more.

There are no fundamental protocol changes to use the Global Work Queue protocol. Drivers using the USB interface simply nominate this as the protocol they wish to use, and they direct OP_HASH operations to a virtual ASIC at address 254. (255 is the broadcast address). A simple sequence numbering system tells the driver when it may send work and when to stop. All it gets back is a nonce stream, and if it asks for it, periodic status/monitoring data which will contain a lot of information about voltages, temperatures, fans etc. and that data will wind up in the miner’s API. The driver doesn’t need to know how many cores or chips are out there.

A side effect of using a higher level interface is that the driver becomes straightforward. Instead of thousands of lines of complex low level code, there will be just a few hundred lines of simple high level stuff to deal with.

Needless to say, we are excited to release this 84-page engineering document to the world, and to present it to the open source development community .

Download the document gn_protocol.
https://hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gn_protocol.pdf

Check back here for more news on the driver header files (coming soon).
545  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: November 13, 2013, 08:23:38 AM
The golden nonce chip is able to broken into 4 pieces

Like a Chunky!

 Cheesy   Tongue



Here you will find the answer, how it works:

https://hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gn_protocol.pdf
546  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: November 13, 2013, 07:51:03 AM
is it possible to cancel batch one and buy the sierra?

How will it work?

Or is it better to wait for shipment of batch one and sell this?

Or, did you deliver the baby jet inside a sierra box, so that i can buy 2 upgrades?

And when will you (HF) start shipping the upgrades?


For the picture: 5 thumps up and 7 stars from me.

Everything will be fine!!!!


Guys, don´t be nervously:

The price for 1 oz gold is higher than the cost to mine them!

The price for 1 btc will be higher than the cost to mine them!


Do you all believe, that the price for one oz gold will drop under the price to mine one oz gold?

NO!

That´s the same with BTC, people will be stupid to sell bitcoin´s less than the mining cost!


My calc is: (start mining in dec 2013)

Price for 1 BTC >= the cost to mine them

Cost of mining rig 400 Gh/s (HF) 6000 USD Batch one

Time to mine one BTC = 2,5 Days

Time to break even = 90 Day´s

90 day´s mining =+- 9 to 10 (start mining in dec)

6000 USD / 10 Bitcoin = 600 USD

Estimated price for on Bitcoin in March 2014 = 600 USD

What do you thing about this calc.


My calc is: (start mining in FEB 2014)

Price for 1 BTC >= the cost to mine them

Cost of mining rig 1200 Gh/s (HF) 6500 USD Batch one

Time to mine one BTC = x Days

Time to break even = 90 Day´s

90 day´s mining =+- 5 to 6 (start mining in dec)

6500 USD / 5 Bitcoin = 600 USD

Estimated price for on Bitcoin in June 2014 = 1300 USD

What do you thing about this calc.


Difficulty:

When i look to http://mining.thegenesisblock.com

I can´t believe that it will not be possible to mine one BTC, when
start mining in June 2014!

What is wrong with their calculation?

Does the diff grows really so much?

I can´t find an thread about: "Hashfast´s Open Source Interface Protocol"
547  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Gathering funds for legal action against HashFast (troll-free) on: November 12, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
When will HF start shipping batch one.

How does the mpp work for me, as batch one customer?
548  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: November 12, 2013, 10:03:29 PM
when will they start shipping to batch one customers like me?
549  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: HashFast Drawing For FREE Baby Jet! on: November 12, 2013, 09:52:32 PM
i´m inn.

Hey Hashfast, did you sell the mpp on the next batch, or for the upgrade Kit?
550  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 08, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
Here are the evidence:




Hair dryer in action







Come on KNC ORSOC Guys!!!!!
551  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 08, 2013, 12:32:23 PM
Hi Bitcoinorama,

i hope that you have a good connection to KNC, can you send them my post?

They can send me about .2 btc btc for my work:   12feS3BnvYkYAf3wsrrftmeNrw1B5HRSZ1



I figured out what it is.

This procedure is repeatable, every one can check this!

It is an temperature problem !!!!!!

die 0 and die 1 are on the left side from the board and die 2 and die 3 are on the right side.

CASE 1

1. updating from 0.98 to 0.98.1
2. when only die 0 is now working all is normal at this moment and
    when you wait awhile die 0 dies and the other ones start = this is normal! Why?

3. the monitordcdc script send commands to all 4 die´s in this moment goes the temp on them higher (doing something)
    volt power ampere working bit = heat

4. now die 3 or die 4 recognized that and switch on! Die 4 said to die 3 hey come up, die 3 said to die 2 hey come up but die 2
   has dementia and for got to say die 0 hey come up. Or the last case die 0 said no i am the master only the controller can
   send commands to me, hmm, but when i was looking to the SPM bus documentation i can't find such things.

   Why? See the picture, an picture say more then 1 million words:


Talking within 0 to 4 and not 4 to 0 or 3 to 2 or 2 to 1

ONLY 1 or 2 or 3 to the next



CASE 2

1. same like above
2. same like above

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

3. I take an hairdryer an blow slowly warm air to the die 0 an 1 an the left side of the Asic Borad!
4. the temperature walks slowly higher, near the point to 69°C i stopped the hairdryer and some seconds
    later only die 1 is start working! NOW NOW WOW WOW WOW

When you look here in the forum you will recognizing that many people talks about: HIGHER Temp = better performance!

Exactly thats the problem, in SPM bus Docu you will find an command to switch on the die or off.


Solution / Problem here:
1. ########################################
10.8.2. Sending Too Few Bits
PMBus (and SMBus) transactions are carried out one byte at time. If while a device is writing to a PMBus device the transmission is interrupted by a START or STOP condition before a complete byte has been sent, this is a data transmission fault.
When a PMBus device detects this fault, it shall respond as follows:
© 2007 System Management Interface Forum, Inc.

Page 39 of 98 All Rights Reserved

PMBus Power System Mgt Protocol Specification – Part II – Revision 1.1
• Flush or ignore the received command code and any received data,
• Set the CML bit in the STATUS_BYTE,
• Set bit [1] (“Other” fault) bit in the STATUS_CML register (if supported), and
• Notify the host as described in Section 10.2.2.

READ on from here

2. ########################################
10.8.7. Device Busy

ME: Before sending commands we had to stop the device and send then the command

3.
11.2. STORE_DEFAULT_ALL
The STORE_DEFAULT_ALL command instructs the PMBus device to copy the entire contents of the Operating Memory to the matching locations in the non-volatile Default
© 2007 System Management Interface Forum, Inc.

Page 43 of 98 All Rights Reserved
Data Byte Value
Meaning
1000 0000
Disable all writes except to the WRITE_PROTECT command

0100 0000
Disable all writes except to the WRITE_PROTECT, OPERATION and PAGE commands

0010 0000
Disable all writes except to the WRITE_PROTECT, OPERATION, PAGE, ON_OFF_CONFIG and VOUT_COMMAND commands

0000 0000
Enable writes to all commands.

PMBus Power System Mgt Protocol Specification – Part II – Revision 1.1

Store memory. Any items in Operating Memory that do not have matching locations in the Default Store are ignored.
It is permitted to use the STORE_DEFAULT_ALL command while the device is operating. However, the device may be unresponsive during the copy operation with unpredictable, undesirable or even catastrophic results. PMBus device users are urged to contact the PMBus device manufacturer about the consequences of using the STORE_DEFAULT command while the device is operating and providing output power.
This command has no data bytes. This command is write only.

4.
11.3. RESTORE_DEFAULT_ALL

ME: I think that can we figure out!

The RESTORE_DEFAULT_ALL command instructs the PMBus device to copy the entire contents of the non-volatile Default Store memory to the matching locations in the Operating Memory. The values in the Operating Memory are overwritten by the value retrieved from the Default Store. Any items in Default Store that do not have matching locations in the Operating Memory are ignored.
It is permitted to use the RESTORE_DEFAULT_ALL command while the device is operating. However, the device may be unresponsive during the copy operation with unpredictable, undesirable or even catastrophic results. PMBus device users are urged to contact the PMBus device manufacturer about the consequences of using the RESTORE_DEFAULT_ALL command while the device is operating and providing output power.

This command has no data bytes. This command is write only.

5. All possible commands:

Starting from page 73



6. Potential Conflict





Info´s here:

http://pmbus.org/docs/PMBus_Revision_1-2_Presentation_20100228.pdf
http://pmbus.org/docs/PMBus_Specification_Part_I_Rev_1-1_20070205.pdf
http://pmbus.org/docs/PMBus_Specification_Part_II_Rev_1-1_20070205.pdf


I am an absolut beginner, an have from SPM bus programming absolutely no know how, but one thing i know is
that the CONTROLLING of the temps inside the die is the problem!



552  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 08, 2013, 06:05:21 AM
No thats not right,
<snip>
I need as quick as possible the above dumps, to verify something.

Fubly:

I ran this on a jupiter presently at 16/16. Wrote a quick script to grab what you wanted:

Code:
for BUS in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; do
        for CHANNEL in 20 21 22 23 24 25; do
        echo "dumping ( $BUS : $CHANNEL)"
        i2cdump -y $BUS 0x$CHANNEL
        echo
        done
done



a = bus
b = channel

PMBus has redundant bus-system, which means here, that when you send data
to:

Bus 2 its enough

For bus 1 it differs, here has the bus 1 only on channel 24 valid data
553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 08, 2013, 05:35:04 AM
ok when all is bull shit here then i ask my question again:

I need dumps of that:

i2cdump -y 1 0x24 b

and

i2cdump -y 1 0x24 w

Information about, power, voltage, dcdc state i'am near the solution to double the hash rate
inside the miner, hmmm not doubling but 200 Gh/s per Asic_Board.

thx


yeah so much bs here
554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 08, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
i need an dump of this here:

i2cdump -y 1 0x24 b

and also

i2cdump -y 1 0x24 w

dcdc problem
555  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 08, 2013, 01:04:14 AM


0x20 = module 0
0x22 = module 1
0x24 = module 2
0x27 = module 3 (I think)

0, 1, 2, 3 = dies

So that equates to 3rd module, 3rd core, then first module, 4th core, then repeatedly 3rd module, 3rd core.

In my case, 0/4 can be restarted, and it does every few minutes when it stops, but 3/3 will never restart.. but the script tries repeatedly.



0 to 6 = the channel where are the a sic bord is attached

0x20 = Asic board on port / channel 1
0x21 = Asic board on port / channel 2
0x22 = Asic board on port / channel 3
0x23 = Asic board on port / channel 4
0x24 = Asic board on port / channel 5
0x25 = Asic board on port / channel 6

556  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 08, 2013, 12:33:52 AM
No thats not right,

SPM-Bus Protocol has redundant bus system,

master - slave.

Seen here: http://pmbus.org/docs/Using_The_PMBus_20051012.pdf

have a look to page 142


I need as quick as possible the above dumps, to verify something.
557  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 07, 2013, 07:20:24 PM
Can anyone with an full speed machine send me the results of this:

i2cdump -y 1 0x24

i2cdump -y 2 0x20

i2cdump -y 2 0x21

i2cdump -y 2 0x22

i2cdump -y 2 0x23

i2cdump -y 2 0x24

i2cdump -y 2 0x25

i2cdump -y 3 0x20

i2cdump -y 3 0x21

i2cdump -y 3 0x22

i2cdump -y 3 0x23

i2cdump -y 3 0x24

i2cdump -y 3 0x25

i2cdump -y 4 0x20

i2cdump -y 4 0x21

i2cdump -y 4 0x22

i2cdump -y 4 0x23

i2cdump -y 4 0x24

i2cdump -y 4 0x25

i2cdump -y 5 0x20

i2cdump -y 5 0x21

i2cdump -y 5 0x22

i2cdump -y 5 0x23

i2cdump -y 5 0x24

i2cdump -y 5 0x25

i2cdump -y 6 0x20

i2cdump -y 6 0x21

i2cdump -y 6 0x22

i2cdump -y 6 0x23

i2cdump -y 6 0x24

i2cdump -y 6 0x25

i2cdump -y 7 0x20

i2cdump -y 7 0x21

i2cdump -y 7 0x22

i2cdump -y 7 0x23

i2cdump -y 7 0x24

i2cdump -y 7 0x25

i2cdump -y 8 0x20

i2cdump -y 8 0x21

i2cdump -y 8 0x22

i2cdump -y 8 0x23

i2cdump -y 8 0x24

i2cdump -y 8 0x25
558  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: HashFast Drawing For FREE Baby Jet! on: November 04, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
Sign me in please! Roll Eyes
559  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC die #0 disabled on: November 02, 2013, 12:57:09 PM
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/13767-firmware-beta-0-98-1-feedback-thread

where do you have the source code to look under the hood?

With your mod, it´s possible to enable the DC / DC 0, is it an setting inside the setting, like an config file or what´s the change?

Good Job Roll Eyes
560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 27, 2013, 12:20:48 PM
TEST_ASIC_BOARD_FOUND=FAIL

type only in your console when logged in:

cat /././var/log/initc.log


root@Jupiter-fuckoff:/var/volatile/log# cat initc.log
Return code = -11
TEST_READ_BBB_SN=OK
TEST_I2C_CONNECT=OK
TEST_LM75_TEST=OK
TEST_TPS65217_TEST=OK
TEST_TPS65217_CONFIG=OK
TEST_FPGA_CONFIG=OK
TEST_FPGA_TEST=OK
TEST_ONBOARD_EEPROM_EMPTY=OK
TEST_GET_SERIAL_NUMBER=OK
TEST_ONBOARD_EEPROM_WRITE=OK
TEST_MMC_REFLASH=OK
TEST_I2C_MUX_PROBE=OK
 Shocked TEST_ASIC_BOARD_FOUND=FAIL  Shocked
TEST_READ_IOBOARD_SN=OK
TEST_IOBOARD_SN_GOOD=OK
TEST_GET_CGMINER_CONFIG=OK
TEST_WRITE_CGMINER_CONFIG=OK

what can i do?
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