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I have a question - I currently have 5 ASICs, 2 GPU and 2 CPU mining rigs connected to Awesome Miner. However on the dashboard, it shows a total of 9 and that all 9 are active. So far that is right - but then in the next area, it shows 2 GPU 8 CPU and 9 ASICs (I realize it is counting the cores for CPU but why does it have all the miners grouped under ASICs? And with my CPU's and GPU's it shows the profits that those miners make but not for the ASICs - I have to manually log into the pool to see that.
Is there also any way to link our wallets so that we can see our balances in the Awesome Miner Interface? - edit: I have found the area to do this and am working to add my various wallets. second edit... my main wallet generates a different address for each transaction, so it seems I have to link quite a few "wallets"
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ahh ok, makes sense, I cannot see it because it does not yet exist for me. works for me. it actually states that newbie are allowed 50 characters. I cannot edit mine at all hmm.. |
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on a total side subject can anyone tell me how to create a signature here? I see people with them, I have looked thru the profile settings and I must be blind because I do not see it. Let me rephrase - I see it in my profile, but I see no way to edit it. rather than derail this thread, can send me a pm as well. now, let's get more blocks!  |
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Block by Fuzzy,2 h ago!
This is our 1st October Block,and our 1st of Block Monday!
and hopefully a lot more to come this month! |
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Hey Guys! I just joined the mining scene and joined your pool, I have 5 S9's with more on the way. While I'm waiting for my 220V circuits to be setup I have 1 S9 pointed here on a 110V. My question is, when are payouts paid? I was connected during the last 2 found blocks and my payout on the first was a miniscule 0.00006859 and the second 0.0002497, I know this is very small but just curious how it works.
Thanks,
Well, we hit a block, wait for 101 confirmations, and then the payouts are sent out...and when the payouts are confirmed they hit your wallet. There is no set time or threshold for payouts...yet. There are some changes coming sometime before the end of the year when dust payouts will also be paid out on a weekly or monthly basis. That second one of 0.0002497 should be paid out when the latest block payout goes out since it's above the 0.00010000 dust limit. oh snap - yes thanks for making this post, I thought I saw 4 zeros on that second payment. I was wrong and will edit my response. |
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Hey Guys! I just joined the mining scene and joined your pool, I have 5 S9's with more on the way. While I'm waiting for my 220V circuits to be setup I have 1 S9 pointed here on a 110V. My question is, when are payouts paid? I was connected during the last 2 found blocks and my payout on the first was a miniscule 0.00006859 and the second 0.0002497, I know this is very small but just curious how it works.
Thanks,
**Edited** the first payout will not pay out at this time, as Kano had pointed out to me earlier (yesterday, I think) anything below .0001 is considered "dust" and will not pay. It will stay in your rewards for the time being. Kano has also pointed out he is working on changing the accounting so as to be able to pay out the "dust" coming soon |
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I've been watching your posts here and there is a very simple approach to all of this...all pools will find the expected number of blocks (100%) over time (unless there is block withholding going on) as luck will always even out. The real difference between pools is transaction and pool fees. For example, antpoo does not give the transaction fees to the miners so you would lose big time there. Pools like KanoPool and Slush both give transaction fees back to the miners so the difference is 0.9% pool fees here vs 2.0% at slush. The math is painfully simple and test runs are not necessary as diff changes effects everyone's payouts ...if you want to get the most out of your hashrate, point all of your machines here.
Maybe so, but I have done where I have 5 miners on one pool, another 5 on another etc etc for several months and they do not always balance out - some pools consistently do better than others. I even solo mine on a few - praying for that lottery win lol Some pools just seem to have more luck at different times, so maybe with a longer time frame the more it will even out - maybe not. But either way, I am by no means complaining. I enjoy mining and I understand it is all pretty much risk based. My posts here are more or less concerning the ramping up and ramping down. I can see this done in several pools but not as many are as transparent as this pool is - hence why I am asking/commenting about it here. |
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Block by sidewinder...another sub-100% block! A nice fat one!  This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY! right? let's get 3 more today! I got a little bit better of a reward this time, right now, its still very little only about $4.60 for 30 hours of 69-71 TH/s I cant wait to see what the total is after reaching full ramp up. but still its 3 blocks in 3 days. I think someone said it earlier, at full ramp up, it's .005 per block at my current TH/s speed. Block Block UTC Miner Reward N Diff N Range Pool N Avg Your % Your N Diff Your N Avg Your BTC 543474 2018-Sep-28 16:57 12.63229388 35.782T 206hr 12m 21s 207.03PHs 0.01% 2.011G 11.64THs 0.00070994 |
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c'mon block! at 30 hours - lets get another one this week!
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Well technically you are "collecting" dust", which will be paid paid sometime soon. The 5 s9's will be more than adequate, just under .005 a block roughly. .005 per block would be great - if we find one every two days, it would be comparable to slush, i was getting about .0024 per day there with 5. so, a block every day (if lucky) or like one day I saw when looking back, you all had 3 blocks in like a 24 hour period. a block a day though at current btc would be equal to about 975... hmm I may need to bring all my S9's lol all in all, mining is fun - there is a lot to learn for sure. but overall the crypto community is great. there are douchebags and scammers but those I think are really not part of the community, they are just involved to abuse it and take advantage of the newbs. |
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Firstly, see Edit2 above in case that's relevant.
Secondly, all payouts on the pool have been your reward per block since I started the pool (as long as it is above dust)
It doesn't combine transactions, or inputs, it sends the rewards to the miners using the block's target transaction and the total leftover dust to the pool.
That will eventually change.
However, dust on all accounts is still just sitting there gathering dust.
You can see all your rewards there on the Rewards page.
That's why I've been working on a new accounting system on the pool - so I can send out all the past dust correctly - and allow limits in the future.
yes I saw the edit and I totally realize that - I am just stating that it would be nice to be able to collect the dust miners are expensive to operate so every bit counts. lol again I appreciate your responses. edit: I have also upped myself to 2S9's, 2S9i's and 1 S9J so I doubt any of my future rewards would be considered dust. |
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@kano is there a way to set a limit before it the pool tries to send to my wallet? first reward never came thru and the second one is giving me a message that it is too small and may be dropped. this is not big money - might be around $2 but all the same, i dont like just losing money either.
I looked thru the settings and I dont see where we can set a minimum xfer amount - am I missing something or does it not exist and basically any reward small enough is just lost? so far have lost 0.00023762 BTC
Well I suggest you don't use wherever it is you are storing your wallet. The current payout is once per block for all above dust - dust is 10,000 satoshi Also note that the payout goes to the address you have when the block was found. There's no reason for a wallet to not accept a 10,000 satoshi payment, so it must be some web site I guess that's ripping you off  You will see the payout for 543272 just confirmed now. Edit: this will change in the future when I complete the accounting changes, but of course not until then. my wallet is bitpay - very little fees to convert btc to cash which i then use the visa card it loads the cash to. I have never had issues with any other pool due to that all the pools i have participated in have a way to set minimum payout to avoid this issue. if the first was 0.00008375, i get that under 10,000 is dust, why would it not have grouped with the second payment of 0.00015387? the system knows its mine as it has it allocated to me. all this being said, I dont think I will have that issue as long as i dont use a single miner. but still it seems like this is a discouragement to any small miners as they may never get paid as it does not accumulate but increments each payment separately. and yes I am talking about the block 543272 - my payment for block 543172 is essentially dust and as it does not roll up/accumulate with the next payment is basically something I will never get, correct? again, its approx $2 so ultimately not a big deal to me personally but I can imagine it can easily add up to tens of thousands of dollars with all the dust that has never been paid out. also - appreciate the quick responses! |
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@kano is there a way to set a limit before it the pool tries to send to my wallet? first reward never came thru and the second one is giving me a message that it is too small and may be dropped. this is not big money - might be around $2 but all the same, i dont like just losing money either.
I looked thru the settings and I dont see where we can set a minimum xfer amount - am I missing something or does it not exist and basically any reward small enough is just lost? so far have lost 0.00023762 BTC
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Yeah to clearify that - the 5Nd is how long it takes to change hash rate.
If you start mining, add miners, have an outage, remove miners, or stop mining.
It always takes 5Nd to change.
That's the whole 'reduce variance' bit - it spreads the changes out over 5Nd.
(which of course is how PPLNS works - and in our case N = 5Nd)
Just remember each miner has it's own ramp up period. The one already mining will have a shorter ramp period of course....when and if you do leave (imagining at the same time), each miner would ramp down at roughly the same "speed".
Trust me, there's no way slush or any other pool would have beat this month.....ZERO chance. My advice is to bring the other miners over....let them ramp up fully "The pool hash rate for the last day is roughly 223.79PHs which means the 5Nd 'ramp' is roughly 7days 23hrs." and then let them mine for 3-4 weeks. If you don't like it, then you can move away and still get paid some rewards for approximately the same period.
I get what you mean about the different ramp up times - the OCD in me had me rename the one that was already on with a new name so it shows as a new worker. That way all are on relatively the same schedule. I will just have to wait the week and see. now that I understand better how it works it makes sense that during ramp up it is less - especially as it keeps paying out when all the miners are gone until it fully ramps down. IMO that balances it mostly. Thanks again for helping clarify and simplify the matter! hoping this works. If it does well, I may have to swing more miners over. I am also currently looking into building a mining farm on my spare lot. if that works, I will have hundreds of asics to point here |
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The code button is used for all lists of text. The point about the code button is that it stops folks from making walls of text and keeps it a manageable size on the webpage. If you are pasting more than around 10 lines it keeps things nice and tidy.
ahh ok gotcha - still very new to these forums. I am gonna throw a few more s9's at this pool and go thru the cycle at full ramp up and see if perhaps it is worth it. the math adds up - but I gotta see the profits come in as well |
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ahh ok i think i understand the ramping up now - it increases the longer i am in the pool and decreases if i leave?
and having only been in the pool 3 days for 2 different blocks, i am still on the low end. as for code - I didnt paste any code, it was just a copy/paste from the website.
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If you had been ramped up, the last block would have been around 0.0008732. If you want to see what you would have made with your miners, you can plug in your hash rates at https://minergain.com/?btcstats. I am not sure if minergain is tracking your current pool. Be aware that I have a bug where the slush blocks are not always subtracting the 2% pool fees but kano always is removing the .9%. The pool fees being subtracted from the block is deep in my monitoring code so a little tricky to find. So for Kano, a single S9 would have received around 0.0199557, 0.0141996 for slush and 0.0150200 for viabtc. After removing some additional fees for slush due to my bug (and viabtc is new, so maybe there too), this month definitely was higher. Obviously the small pool allows us to be much higher and much lower in a month. Fortunately we are nowhere near as small as we were 6 months ago where we were about 1/4 the size (and really big payouts). what do you mean by ramped up? because .0008 is considerably more than the .00015387 that I did get. I participated in each shift for the last block. below is what the reward screen shows me. Block Block UTC Miner Reward N Diff N Range Pool N Avg Your % Your N Diff Your N Avg Your BTC 543272 2018-Sep-27 08:22 12.45837645 35.812T 207hr 14m 32s 206.16PHs 0.00% 442.335M 2.55THs 0.00015387 and the shift screen shows sorry I know that it doesnt paste well: Shift Start UTC Length Your Diff Inv Diff Avg Hs Shares Avg Share Rewards Rewarded* PPS% awzno origami Sep‑27 08:05:39 17m 10s 3.214M 36.243k 13.40THs 266 12,081.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awzkn nodoka Sep‑27 07:14:08 51m 31s 10.414M 36.243k 14.47THs 862 12,081.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awzdm mutsumi Sep‑27 06:24:17 49m 51s 9.351M 60.405k 13.43THs 774 12,081.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awz7r lucy Sep‑27 05:33:55 50m 22s 9.011M 27.162k 12.81THs 816 11,042.32 1 0.03479 19.91% awyzu kosaki Sep‑27 04:44:34 49m 21s 6.616M 8.196k 9.60THs 700 9,451.04 1 0.03479 19.91% awyu3 juvia Sep‑27 03:54:19 50m 15s 9.231M 0 13.15THs 715 12,910.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awyo6 ichiko Sep‑27 03:04:04 50m 15s 9.515M 12.910k 13.55THs 737 12,910.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awyga hitagi Sep‑27 02:11:33 52m 31s 9.476M 12.910k 12.92THs 734 12,910.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awya5 gin Sep‑27 01:21:19 50m 14s 10.147M 51.640k 14.46THs 786 12,910.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awy4a frey Sep‑27 00:31:04 50m 15s 8.882M 169.426k 12.65THs 828 10,726.77 1 0.03479 19.91% awxwc elen Sep‑26 23:39:08 51m 56s 9.958M 35.229k 13.72THs 848 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awxq9 daisy Sep‑26 22:49:25 49m 43s 9.782M 23.486k 14.08THs 833 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awxjf charlotte Sep‑26 21:56:57 52m 28s 9.242M 0 12.61THs 787 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awxca belldandy Sep‑26 21:05:43 51m 14s 9.852M 23.486k 13.77THs 839 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awx6b ako Sep‑26 20:15:18 50m 25s 8.913M 35.229k 12.65THs 759 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awwyd zekken Sep‑26 19:26:11 49m 7s 9.641M 0 14.05THs 821 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awwsn yuno Sep‑26 18:34:38 51m 33s 10.310M 0 14.32THs 878 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awwmk xenovia Sep‑26 17:44:04 50m 33s 9.770M 35.229k 13.83THs 832 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awweo wakaba Sep‑26 16:51:32 52m 33s 10.486M 0 14.29THs 893 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% aww8h valentina Sep‑26 15:59:54 51m 38s 10.404M 0 14.42THs 886 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% aww2f ur Sep‑26 15:08:01 51m 53s 9.688M 11.743k 13.37THs 825 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% awvuc tenshi Sep‑26 14:18:06 49m 55s 9.911M 35.229k 14.21THs 844 11,743.00 1 0.03479 19.91% |
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great i see we found another block! the second one in 3 days. I am using only one s9 at 13.5 th/s in this pool and for the most recent block my reward was .00015387. I want to stay in this pool but i am not sure it would be profitable vs other pools as in other pools my block reward is about .00004 per s9 and getting on average of 10 blocks per day so that would be .0004 on average per day per miner. without 4 blocks a day on average I dont see how I can make the same as the other pools i belong to - and i have my s9's spread out as I am participating in 5-6 pools at a time.
am I looking at this wrong? is there higher profits in a small pool or a in a large pool? I get that the rewards are less frequent but larger and the latest reward was close to 4 times what the other pool is paying per block, the difference is the other pool is finding 10+ blocks per day so I am getting more rewards, although smaller. I see this is the 23rd block in the month, if i had been here the entire month, those rewards would be approx the same as about 100 block rewards on the other pool - but in the same time period with the other pool, I might have 230 block rewards. so seems like it is only half as profitable here for me --- at least with 1 miner.
I may need to bring over all my miners to be a larger % to make it worthwhile.
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just started with kano pool almost 48 hours ago with just 1 of my miners to test the waters - we hit a block after around 70 hours, as I was not there for all the shifts I expect that is why my payout was so low - in other pools this one miner would have made 10x the amount in 2 days. I am hoping that with participation in all the shifts for the next block that I will earn a higher reward to make it worthwhile. If I do well enough here, I will bring my other asics over.
anyways, I just wanted to say hello and hoping this pool works out good for me!
Yep the thing to remember is the PPLNS here N=5Nd That's also explained on Help->Payouts on the web site. The most relevant part to your 'hope' is: "The 5Nd means it takes that long to reward your shares. The ramp isn't missing rewards, it's delaying them to reduce variance. Each share is rewarded in all the blocks found in the 5Nd after the share." So when you stop mining you will still have rewards due in the 5Nd of blocks after you stop. This diagram might also help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg26608107#msg26608107yes, but as I was not there for the full 70 some odd hours (not in the beginning) my share of shares is lower percentage wise than it would have been had I been mining the full time, right? either way, my miner has been connected for all the shifts since last block found and will remain so until the next block is found. we can go from there. |
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just started with kano pool almost 48 hours ago with just 1 of my miners to test the waters - we hit a block after around 70 hours, as I was not there for all the shifts I expect that is why my payout was so low - in other pools this one miner would have made 10x the amount in 2 days. I am hoping that with participation in all the shifts for the next block that I will earn a higher reward to make it worthwhile. If I do well enough here, I will bring my other asics over.
anyways, I just wanted to say hello and hoping this pool works out good for me!
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