I think if you look at the above, you'll see that -2 on the 821 isn't the same as -2 on the 741.  Most are reporting *higher* hashrate and wattage at -2, than 1.  Makes ya wonder if they got the values reversed in their firmware...

Well, I give up... The Android App doesn't send me a new Block notice, the other web based tool doesn't send me a new block notice.  Seems nothing does.   So I just decided to fix it myself.

I created a little perl script that reads the pool API and when a block change happens it will send me a pushover notification!... Problem solved.

I don't know how fast is *too fast* to ping the API, so I've slowed that way down for now. (2 mins would be min notification time).  I use Pushover for a bunch of other things and it's easy enough to use so TADA

I did make the little pushover app subscribable.  I want to run it for a block or 2 (my incentive to make them happen quickly), just make sure it works ok.  If so, and there are others interested, let me know and I can provide the Pushover subscribe link.

yeah, maybe now I'll get a notification of a new block found!

It's *Friday* (ok, at least in the US it is)... isn't there supposed to be some kind of party going on?

Someone told me to come here for a party!!!!  

Here's the problem that I see what what you said.

3wks = 21 days.  Your mush have/had a single S9 as you say 13.5 Th/s is what you are expecting.

Lots of the S9's are having a problem where they drop one hash board - I don't know what the issues is, but if that was the issue, that would account for the 9Th you referenced.  If not, then  there has to be some other issue, but if you were really on the pool 24/7 for 3wks, there is no reason that you wouldn't have been 100% ramped up.

I jumped into this pool on 1/18, in 15 days I was fully ramped, it grew in pool size since then so the ramp timeframe shortened.   I added another 15Th/s to it on the 24th and that took 13 days to ramp.

I saw my first payout on the 600% block and my payout was based upon 100% of what I had on the pool, I saw my second payout 4 days later (maybe it was 5) it was also based upon 100% of what I had on the pool.  And my 3rd payout was a day later also based upon 100% of what I had on the pool.

The only way any of us can armchair quarterback what happened is for you to tell us when you joined the pool, with how much hash, were you on it 7/24 from the start, for what length of time and then provide the listing of your payouts.  From that we might be able to offer some suggestions.

Beyond that to just jump in and offer all the negativism, isn't very productive either for you or us.  There are a lot of really bright people here who know how this system works.  It may not be what you want to hear, but it will be based in some experience.

well, it wasn't trying to be misleading, but I see how it was... 40Th did .010296<blah> and the problem was my days math - which technically was correct, but was far too misleading... ... but it was still better than slush

I'll blame it on the euphoria of finding a block ... lol. that's my story and I'm sticking to it...

I figured my reference to payout amounts would answer the question.  I have 40Th/s and will  add 22 more on monday

hmm I guess then I'm surprised you're still here.  That would take you back to the Nov/December time frame as we haven't ran 10 blocks a month since that timeframe.
A friend of mine and I mine here, I switched from Slush in mid Jan. *before* the doubling of hash and user @ slush, it  took me at average 6 days to mine .01 BTC there.  And luck at the time was closer to 100%.  For me we just turned .01 in 2+ days here.  Yes I know I didn't account for the 600% block.   And that block was 165% diff.  So I'm quite happy to stay right here and *gamble*.

about a week ago we looked at slush, btc, and here and decided this still was the better option even given the luck issue.  What do they say "A pendulum can only swing so far and then has to switch back"

I think the other thing that people forget.  A month ago, blocks were paying at average around 15-17 BTC, look at our last 2 - stuck right above the base pay.  so that in and of itself is a 25% reduction in revenue that effects *everybody*.

Thanks - I did indeed find it... was such a small number, I missed it prior... apologies!

Further, and I just looked and slushs luck is really no different from ours right now.  Both are unlucky by approx the same percentage on the short term... I didn't look at the longer timeframe.

I'm just a small fish in the wading pool, trying to graduate to the shark tank

Not sure where you are looking, but Slush reports block % favorable.  E.g. if they find a block in less than network difficulty, they count that as positive luck.  So the 550% block, took them 15 mins, not 8hrs (not sure where this number is coming from I looked back through their block history and I couldn't find an 8 hour block anywhere in that last few days/week).

However, with that said, they are also on the unlucky side by over 20%.  In fact all of their numbers show this.  10 blocks, 50 blocks and 250 blocks.  But what's worse is that their hash has doubled as well and their number of miners has gone from 47000 just a month ago to almost 97000.  Can you imagine how tiny those payout are now.  Both *bad* luck and a doubling in the number of users and hash rates.

I moved from Slush, did all the number comparisons, etc and I think I'll just happily stay here thank you very much.

If you have Avalon 741's, you probably have a bunch of AUC3s that you never used.  I'm looking for a couple as spares, drop me a PM with a *reasonable offer*.  Thanks

This may not help if you are in need of AUC3's

a) I'd go to the marketplace and put in a wtb for AUC3's... The originally came with all the 741's so there has to be a metric boatload out there that were never used.
b) the controller is nothing more than an Rpi1,2, or 3.  The software image is complete and you just burn the image to a 4G or larger SDCARD and you have a controller.  There are a few guides online for how to do it, it's really easy and what I running on my 741's.

They are *very good* via email... make sure you question anything that looks really strange (except the price of 821 which to some extend their hands are tied by Canaan around).  My experience dealing them has been exceptional!

haha (please don't take the chuckle wrong)... There are lots of differing cultures on this pool and everyone's *approach* is different as well... Really you just have to roll with it because some are always the same (that's not a good or a bad thing, it's just a thing).

I really think this is the *point* most people get stuck with... And there is no way around it if you want to be on this pool.

As to the difficulty comment, what I meant was difficulty is always going to influence the *ease* at which a block is found.  it also took 2wks and 600% hashes to find the last one, if you joined right after we started, you'd have been ramped before we found it and would that also have been an issue because of the 2wks with no payout whatsoever?..... You have to scale both costs, revenue and unexpected losses for this game or else... well, you'll be short lived like so many others.

On the good news front, I just got word that another 22Th is on it way to me... yeah!  And did I say I like Th that has some of the best hash/watt ... always a good thing

I think you better study up on the built in difficulty curve with BTC (we are way past the middle of the curve).  in fact, it's only going to rapidly increase every 13ish days.  If you couldn't handle the 600% block, then ya might want to quickly sell your hash and day trade, because it's only going to get harder to find a block, not easier.

When did you look, it's been 52Th for the last week or better, sure it varies as does any pool, but the home page is your friend, it will alway tell you and it's 52+

That completely depends on when you started watching.

I joined on the 18th of Jan.  The Pool was 32Ph... Today its over 52Ph.  by my fuzzy math that's a pretty significant size increase in a month

But it's not lost btc (unless we have more 500+% difficulty blocks anyway), that long ramp up, pays as a long ramp down when/if you leave.  Exactly the same way.

so again all the ramp does is reduce the variance, it has little *overall* effect from start to end (with the one exception that because it's a 5Nd PPLNS, when shares exceed 500% for a given block, you won't be paid for shares at the beginning (5Nd is a sliding window from the block find back in history))

Its mostly just an emotional/mental block because while you are *ramping*, you see smaller payouts, and depending on when you get in, it may be a little more painful, because enduring a 600% block like we just did can cause you to wonder... but I suspect over a *duration* of time even that *variance* will smooth

How did you determine the 12.5?  It's *NOT* the red line on the shift graph, that is your average hashrate over the entire graph which is like 20 some odd days.

if you have mined for 7 and we are at 45+Ph, then you are probably about 60%, maybe a smidge more, or probably closer to 25Th if we found a block today.

And I doubt you'll get many takers, because ramp isn't about just getting to 100% of your hashrate in payout, its all about reducing variance.  Plus I think people forget, you get it all on the backside if you decide to leave - again depending on where we are on the block shares,  to find a block,  to difficulty.