I think you need to read the bold part again, i said "I sent many PMs to seller and he never replied" I didn't said that you defcon23 never replied me cool your mind and read everything again another point everybody can judge : another lies in the OP : I had some problem with trade so I sent him many PMs and after he never replied left him a neg feedback but later he replied to me that he is new owner of this account and it was sold to him by user "Kanapka" using Defcon23 as escrow. the true: helo
yes i have escrowed the sale of this account recently... nothing more to say. ( as you can read in the + 1 i let him , after this sale.)
regards.
so this account was sold or this user sold any other account? and what is date of sale old user "Kanapka" i nerver knew before, had sold this account to an another user ( ACTUAL owner ) , and it seems he hasn't change the account name.
so, if you had anny issue with the user "Kanapka" in the past , you have to know the actual owner of this account is NOT the same person.
( cause i recently had to escrow this account sale , as i already told you )
Hope this could help you..
Best regards
when the account "Kanapka" was sold and when you escrowd this transaction so I can know if the account was sold after dealing with me or before dealing with me before you made you post on the trust ranking of this user .
for now: it's my kid birthday and i have many thing to do .
its not a satisfied answer better then writing this 2 line message you can just write the date when the account was sold using your escrow |
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Please answer:
in the deal that you claim that Defcon23 escrowed for himsef:
who was the buyer?
who was the seller?
Which account was an alt of the escrow Defcon23? The buyer? The seller? Both?
Is Neotox(uid: 194700) an alt of Quickseller(uid: 358020)?
Was Quickseller(uid: 358020) in control of your account when you started this topic?)
tks
Buyer Patatas Seller Kanapka aka defcon23 (escrow) I am not alt of quickseller and he never controlled my account |
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How much posts it has? like ~200, ~250, ~300 etc
I will Bid 0.05 if you can sign a message that I want
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your account's password was changed only 1 time in last one month and that was changed using old password, you didn't reset the password
so you mean that hacker give you password of the account and asked you to change the password and get your account back ?
sorry but it doesn't seems legit
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I never sold anything using John Carter, I can give account details to any trusted member to verify the PMs and the accounts.
I'm not an alt of Defcon23.
I never sold or bought this account or ever shared it, I created this account and since the beginning I has been the sole owner of it.
I defend him because you are a dick and the enemy of my enemy is my friend and because the truth is important to me, and if people get convinced that he is my alt I will receive neg trust, like QS's alts received.
I can prove all the points above to trusted members
You still have to explain why the buyer, that by your logic received nothing, is quiet
No, I don't think so he said this 2 times that the account kanapka was sold , first on your trust page and second via PM to me I just asked him for proofs that the account was sold, and if he was messed with english then he can reply me that the account was not sold it was just a mistake I don't think someone can do same mistake 3 times( first on writing on your trust page, second writing a PM to me and third reading the PM that I have sent him) now after getting caught you are giving fake excuses it was a mistake or anything like this but first he was very confident when he sent you feedback and replied to my PMs
Remember that I can prove all my points, you are risking reputation with your statementsNo the PMs I recieved from defcon23 are same as I shared them here and I am ready to share PM ID so admin/staff member can check the content of the PM he sent me I have already shared proofs about this and I am not risking my reputation because a negative feedback from scammer doesn't impact(you given me negative feedback) also I am not using abusing language as you are because I know I am right and don't need to write shit to prove myself I have already shared enough proofs about this |
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I never sold anything using John Carter, I can give account details to any trusted member to verify the PMs and the accounts.
I'm not an alt of Defcon23.
I never sold or bought this account or ever shared it, I created this account and since the beginning I has been the sole owner of it.
I defend him because you are a dick and the enemy of my enemy is my friend and because the truth is important to me, and if people get convinced that he is my alt I will receive neg trust, like QS's alts received.
I can prove all the points above to trusted members
You still have to explain why the buyer, that by your logic received nothing, is quiet
1: I never said you sold me anything using your johncarter account but you said that it was your own account 2. If you are not alt of defcon23 then why he lied that your account was sold and he was escrow for this and the account is now contrlled by new owner (as seen on trust page and PM's I shared) 3.It was defcon23 who said this account was sold and already shared the proofs about this 4. you defend him because he is your alt and after be caught you are defending it, he lied about this it means that he was not honest and escrow must be honest |
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Good find BWC, keep it up
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Neotox, keep up the good work. Keep the forum safe by scam busting these fake alts and bad scam attempts. I also read the thread of the BiPolarBob banned 3 days. But what i don't get is that BiPolarBob himself did not see it and did not post that that was a lie???
BWC
may be he didn't noticed this or was not online when the thread was posted Yes, I already thought about that. But anyways the account got negative trust so people will not believe him anymore, thanks neotox for keeping newbies safe  ! BWC welcome bro if all users work together against scammers then we can make this place safe heaven for legit users and burning hell for scammers |
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I never sold anything using John Carter, I can give account details to any trusted member to verify the PMs and the accounts.
I'm not an alt of Defcon23.
I never sold or bought this account or ever shared it, I created this account and since the beginning I has been the sole owner of it.
I defend him because you are a dick and the enemy of my enemy is my friend and because the truth is important to me, and if people get convinced that he is my alt I will receive neg trust, like QS's alts received.
I can prove all the points above to trusted members
You still have to explain why the buyer, that by your logic received nothing, is quiet
No, I don't think so he said this 2 times that the account kanapka was sold , first on your trust page and second via PM to me I just asked him for proofs that the account was sold, and if he was messed with english then he can reply me that the account was not sold it was just a mistake I don't think someone can do same mistake 3 times( first on writing on your trust page, second writing a PM to me and third reading the PM that I have sent him) now after getting caught you are giving fake excuses it was a mistake or anything like this but first he was very confident when he sent you feedback and replied to my PMs |
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Reported to Vod and shorena, but I think they are not online currently. PMing default trust members will probably be a good idea
I have already left him a negative trust but I doubt it will change its rating I hope some default trust member read this thread and mark him since my rating doesn't affect his trust score so might be a newbie can fall in his trap |
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And why are you making this scam accusation and not the buyer? He received nothing if what you say is true. Or are you saying that the buyer, the seller( I ) and the escrow are all the same person  lol you don't know what this topic is about and you keep posting here read the OP and you will know the reason of this topic |
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Chronology of what happened: 1 - Auction topic made by Shibashi selling a Hero member https://archive.is/3Boe22- Neotox won and bought the account using SebastianJu obs: he was a bad buyer, asked several times for the name of the account before send any BTC to escrow and complained that I took too long to answer when I was signing a message from account, dumping the private key, changing passwords, etc. Also asked for the Shibashi account as a gift( ) 3 - Account sold 4 - Somehow sellerguild discovered the identity of the sold account and -ve rep it(like happened with several other accounts, without the buyer activating the dick mode like Neotox did), Neotox put the blame on me profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1029365 - Account Shibashi sold https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1167799.msg12370888#msg123708885 - Neotox left a negative feedback to Shibashi without reference saying that he contacted me several times but I never returned 6 - I contacted Neotox using the account John Carter(so he is lying when he says I never contacted him) to know what was going on. He said that was because the negative trust and that he already bought more than 100 accounts without ever being discovered. I still don't know if he wanted to undo the deal, extort me some money or try to get the Shibashi account for free or for very low, but I would never do any of the options anyway. He kept the negative in the Shibashi account even after I informed him about the sell. 7 - Neotox erased the neg trust for the Shibashi account and opened this thread. I never asked you for for any money or refund for this account sale as a buyer I wanted to know which account I was buying and when you said you can tell me after I fund escrow I did funded escrow. about contacting you I have sent many PMs to shibashi account, your johncarter account and kanapka account (first one was sold and from johncarter account you just created that and never logged in next day to reply my comment because you thought that I will never able to find you) and from your kanapka account that you were using regular you just did 1 reply to my PM and later never responded me and the main topic of this thread is
you used Defcon23 for escrow that is your alt account and that is against forum rules
no one defend someone without proof untill it is their own account, and defcon23 clearly stated on your trust page and in the PMs that he sent me that this account kanapka was sold but this account was never sold and he lied about this
this is one more proof that he is defending his own alt account kanapka |
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And this is from your trust page feedback left by defcon23 https://i.imgur.com/DFebY2i.png" i have escrowed the sale for this account ( actual owner of this account at this date) and this user is a TRUSTED USER . That's not the first time i have to escrowed a deal for a buyed account with this user, and i PERSONALY NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH HIM.
NEOTOX .. please contact this user to know the date sale of this account... its surely not the same person, kind regards." |
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helo
yes i have escrowed the sale of this account recently... nothing more to say. ( as you can read in the + 1 i let him , after this sale.)
regards.
old user "Kanapka" i nerver knew before, had sold this account to an another user ( ACTUAL owner ) , and it seems he hasn't change the account name.
so, if you had anny issue with the user "Kanapka" in the past , you have to know the actual owner of this account is NOT the same person.
( cause i recently had to escrow this account sale , as i already told you )
Hope this could help you..
Best regards
can you prove that defcon23 really sent you that PMs? are you sure that "this account" refers to Kanapka(aka this account), and not to Shibashi Dogemoto? you can see in those PMs which account he is talking about and also on your trust rating you can see he said this account was sold and new owner etc about verification of those PMs I can tell PM ID for the PMs he sent me and admin/staff member can verify this the content of those PMs was same as I posted here not any single character was changed |
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Here A user "BiPolarBob 3dayban" registered today and said that he is original BipolarBob and his account is banned for 3 days so because of this he is offering a great Amazon gift card deal! giving $100 giftcard for just 2$ he posted a bitcoin address asking users to send 2$ worth BTC there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184870.0when many user and Me asked for verification, I just asked him for what message I sent to BPB inbox if he was real BPB he can login and tell me what I have sent there but he started giving stupid reasons, like his account is banned and he is not able to login to this, and I think if a user is banned they are still able to login to their account so he Lied about this after that he started abusing as you can see in his thread he is a scammer who wanted to scam using BiPolarBob account ban story |
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helo
yes i have escrowed the sale of this account recently... nothing more to say. ( as you can read in the + 1 i let him , after this sale.)
regards.
old user "Kanapka" i nerver knew before, had sold this account to an another user ( ACTUAL owner ) , and it seems he hasn't change the account name.
so, if you had anny issue with the user "Kanapka" in the past , you have to know the actual owner of this account is NOT the same person.
( cause i recently had to escrow this account sale , as i already told you )
Hope this could help you..
Best regards
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Lol yes
He left me negative feedback because I exposed him,but nothing new it was expected action by him
I don't care about this,if I get one negative feedback for each scammer I trap, I am ready to accept hundreds of negative feedbacks because everyone know they are false one
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Neotox you must have missed this post.  https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xzI made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown. If this list updated every Saturday, where it could be found? link above refers only Downloads Old. regards -zz What I understand is that https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz will be the latest. You don't find that that's the case? yes this is link for the latest trust list, when you visit you download latest list bydefault |
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Here is story: I done a trade with a user "X" and after trade was complete this account"X" was sold to other user (can't reveal username because this account is now owned by a new owner who has nothing to do with this stuff so I don't want to involve him in this)I had some problem with trade so I sent him many PMs and after he never replied left him a neg feedback but later he replied to me that he is new owner of this account and it was sold to him by user " Kanapka" using Defcon23 as escrow. Cool I sent message to user " Kanapka" for problem regarding my trade and this user responded me that he never sold me anything , and he bought this account from someone using Defcon23 as escrow, and asked me that I can confirm this from Defcon23"here is screenshot of feedback left by Defcon23 on Kanapka trust page saying that this account(Kanapka) was sold using his escrow service"
https://i.imgur.com/DFebY2i.pngOk, then I sent message to Defcon23 asking for this and he said Kanapka account was sold using his escrow when I asked when it was sold then he said it was sold after he did any trade with me(When I asked for date when the account was sold he refused).Then I asked him for some proofs that the account was sold so I know that it is not the original user who done trade with me and he didn't answered and started making fake excuses like"its my son's birthday and I am busy"then I checked forum security log and found that password of account "Kanapka" was not changed since last 1 month? (my trade was 9-10 sepetember)
so it means that Defcon23 lied about this and account Kanapka was never sold using his escrow, this prove that " Kanapka" is his alt account and he is defending it using hero account Defcon23also he left positive feedback to Kanapka for this transaction and also took fees from buyer for the trade between buyer and " Kanapka"(his potential alt) that is against forum rules. Here are Proofs where he said that the account was soldtrust page of kanapka => https://i.imgur.com/DFebY2i.pngPms from defcon23 =>helo
yes i have escrowed the sale of this account recently... nothing more to say. ( as you can read in the + 1 i let him , after this sale.)
regards.
old user "Kanapka" i nerver knew before, had sold this account to an another user ( ACTUAL owner ) , and it seems he hasn't change the account name.
so, if you had anny issue with the user "Kanapka" in the past , you have to know the actual owner of this account is NOT the same person.
( cause i recently had to escrow this account sale , as i already told you )
Hope this could help you..
Best regards
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