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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: October 25, 2014, 10:30:45 PM
Can someone explain the difference between what Via team is working on and what Bitcoin "sidechains" is to someone who is not a programmer please??
Is this a concern for the Via coin?
https://coinreport.net/tree-chains-vs-side-chains-controversy-explained/

Just noticed some legendary human being sold 60,000 while I was asleep and destroyed the sell wall Cheesy may have to lower my bid...

SOLD and destroyed the SELL wall?
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 |11 New Features | Petition | Vote | Exchange | PROFIT on: October 25, 2014, 09:25:21 PM
It's funny, looks like BTC crashing solved the problem that this coin was aiming to do all along  Cheesy
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2014, 08:29:16 PM
What kind of trap is this?

1D macd turned red with the dumping pattern, retest of 300 is coming, cut the loose.

It's not a trap my friend........



This was even better because the image wasnt fully visible on my screen until I scrolled LOL

What kind of trap is this?

1D macd turned red with the dumping pattern, retest of 300 is coming, cut the loose.

You are wrong this time.  it will never test 330 again.  this is it!

If people short here they will lose out big time we are just over a day from + 370
 



Another one of you every day. This is just a few peoples claims I remember from the past week.

"WELL NEVER SEE $360, YOURE NUTS!"
"$350? WHAT THE HELL? ITS MOON TIME!"
"$330 IS IMPOSSIBLE"

Today, its "no $330, ever again"

$200 is coming. $100 is coming. Its just a matter of time.

QFT

if you are waiting for $ub 330. you will regret it forever. It will never happen.


Im not sure I understand your quote. QFT = Quoted for truth. You are disagreeing with me. Maybe you mean for future reference?

QFT because you seem to think $200 and $100 BTC is coming.

I am telling you sub $330 BTC will never happen again.  If it does I will never post in this thread again.  Huge pumps are incoming in the next few mins / hours. 

By Monday, you'll agree with me. 

LAWL.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set on: October 25, 2014, 05:22:32 PM
Did the developer ever make the source code public for this?
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set on: October 25, 2014, 05:18:20 PM
Anyone want to buy my coinshield?  1000 for 0.4 BTC. PM me if you're interested.
I can sell you mine at this rate if you want  Grin (at that price, I will start renting aws session)

LOL, didn't notice they were up on an exchange finally.  Been away for a while. 
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
Been away for a while, so what was the cause of all this dumping from 380?  Sidechain stuff?
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set on: October 25, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
Anyone want to buy my coinshield?  1000 for 0.4 BTC. PM me if you're interested.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: October 15, 2014, 03:50:48 PM
The altmarket is dead right now, it leans that way every time btc has a major crash. 
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XCH] ★ ClearingHouse ★ Initialization Stage ★ on: October 14, 2014, 03:12:56 PM
Since btcdrak is a Sr. Member, i will buy some.
This is a terrible reason.

The end is near.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: October 12, 2014, 02:27:51 AM
Waste of money, just like this coin
Sounds like someone's on the hunt for cheap Via Wink
Or just the usual bagholding butthurt.
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 09, 2014, 08:50:57 PM
This CFTC meeting is bullish as fuck!

Seems like everyone is itching to dump
12  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 09, 2014, 08:07:27 PM
You guys are watching this right? http://www.onlinevideoservice.com/clients/cftc/video.htm?eventid=cftclive
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set on: October 09, 2014, 05:56:27 AM
Yea, so is this thing ever going to hit an exchange?
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][UTIL] UtilityCoin - x13 POS - New Tech - Updated Wallet Today on: October 09, 2014, 05:41:15 AM
Wow that was a big dump Smiley

Edit: Still some big ass dumps lol. This will go down a bit more. My 249k sell order has to wait a little bit longer.

Edit2: 10k broken Smiley Cheap coins. Thanks.

My view: https://twitter.com/Epimetheusz/status/519892178349604864

well if there was some kind of pump planned for this, there isn't anymore. 

You didn't get the memo? This is an inverted one.

Sorry, I must not have got it, I was in a cartel meeting and you know how those can drag on and on...
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 09, 2014, 12:52:37 AM
listen to David Seaman's despair and anger.  this is called Capitulation.  sad, but this is no market for the naive and weak minded:

http://davidseaman.libsyn.com/bitcoin-crash-analysis

Yea I was listening to that during bearwhales final hour,  I felt really bad for that guy, twitter was just laughing in his face. 
16  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 11:24:17 PM
Loaded == Pantera guy

 Grin
17  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 08:56:10 PM
how likely is it that an unregulated exchange in Slovenia has $9-10M sitting around on its exchange waiting to be mobilized on a Sunday?
What do you think it means? Also, a much smaller amount than 30k was bought in one gulp near the end, I think it was less than 10k BTC, so it's more likely.
It appeared to me that the last 12 - 14k of the wall was primarily scooped up by Loaded.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg9100535#msg9100535

I watched the wall from the first dump, along with the WO thread, and the timing fit.  With nobody making outright claims, it seems reasonable given his history...

Loaded says this on Monday, the day after the wall got taken down.

Actually it was within a few minutes. 

how does fiat arrive on a Sunday night?  gox wires didn't work that way.  workers were off on weekends.

Maybe it was monday in whatever part of the world he was in at that point.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 08:10:38 PM
Definitely agree that the trolls were part of whatever this smack down was all about.  If they start posting again watch out!
19  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 07:11:56 PM
If this we're the case I would think that 30K wall would have been eaten much faster (by pantera), but as far as I can tell it was chipped away by many "smaller" buyers.  I can't help but think pantera would have just panic bought the whole block if all this was the case.

that's a good point.  in fact, i was right there with everyone encouraging a group effort to knock it down.

of course, it's possible that Pantera was in fact buying it in small, medium, and larger chunks along with the final takedown.

I thought about this too, it would be ballsy not to just panic buy the whole block, if I were running pantera, I would be too afraid of some other bullwhale scooping up the cheap coins I had worked so hard to extract from the market all month.
20  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 07:03:33 PM
ok, i'm going to have to refine my conspiracy theory on the BearWhale.  he is a distraction.  i now think the main benefactor of a manufactured selloff was economic actor Pantera Capital.

let me further say, this type of analysis is purely in fun and based on anecdotes. i am not accusing them of anything and will be happy to be corrected.  if i'm right, i don't necessarily have anything against them for manipulating the market like i'm theorizing.  i just find this one of the more interesting events in Bitcoin history and find it fun to theorize how and why it happened:

developments since the selloff that have occurred after my original theory about it being a non-economic actor:

1.  Dan Moorehead @dan_pantera, the day after the selloff, comes out with a detailed series of tweets focusing attention on the movements of address 159SCycgn8weAy2XGUEhD6V1RTFni7E3iq convincing me that the 30K dumper was indeed a whale who simply capitulated to the selloff pressure:

https://twitter.com/dan_pantera

2.  Pantera Capital, 2 days after the selloff, issues not only one but two uber bullish reports on Bitcoin.  its Bitcoin vs Gold report unapologetically and unabashedly forecasting $4.3M/BTC.  they don't normally publish this frequently:

https://cdn.panteracapital.com/wp-content/uploads/Bitcoin-vs-Gold.pdf

https://cdn.panteracapital.com/wp-content/uploads/Pantera-Bitcoin-Letter-September-2014.pdf

associated data and assumptions:

1.  @PanteraCapital & @RonGlantz popped up as my Twitter followers since spring/summer and i know they follow this thread.  here's the tinfoil stuff and it's truly not meant to feed my ego but since June, i've had the funny feeling that very often when i would put up a bullish post, it was immediately met with a selloff.  it got so bad that @kLee1977 told me "you bring bad luck!" to which i replied:

"@kLee1977 actually, u know wht? i bet those ask wall manipulators key off bulltards like me. long term tho, i'd bet on me Wink"

https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/510080984243765248

2.  the day of the selloff, Oct 5, i sent this tweet to @PanteraCapital @BitstampUSD @damijanmerlak & @nejc_kodric:

"hey @PanteraCapital. u guys r invested in @BitstampUSD. y don't u ask @damijanmerlak & @nejc_kodric whats goin on with the huge wall?"

https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/518969201814683648

never got a response from any of them.  i would have expected at least a denial.

3.  i think since June, Pantera used it's known considerable BTC resources obtained in the early days of Bitcoin, to sell/short down the market with a bot and occasional 1000 BTC chunks, keying off known bulls like myself to knock the market down with the goal of causing a whale or whales to finally capitulate, at which time they'd buy back the sold coins or cover shorted coins back at a cheaper price, at what turned out to be in this case @$300.  i doubt they had a specific price point; they were simply hunting for a large selloff source from a weak whale.

4.  a large economic actor like Pantera could afford to hire forum and Reddit trolls to help talk down the price.  no matter what anyone says, this type of trolling is effective in destroying confidence.  it is also well known that when there are big price moves either way ppl come to these meeting places to find out what's going on.  the fact that Severro, antibitcoinconsortium, falllling, etc. have all abruptly disappeared since Sunday indicate to me they were on hire by someone with substantial resources to manipulate the market.

5.  Pantera Capital is the major investor in Bitstamp and clearly has a close relationship with its founders.  only they would have the resources and confidence to leave large amounts of BTC and fiat on an unregulated exchange awaiting opportunities, manufactured or otherwise, considering what happened to mtgox clients.  

now it's time for them to talk the price up with bullish reports.

i welcome any thoughts or criticisms.

If this we're the case I would think that 30K wall would have been eaten much faster (by pantera), but as far as I can tell it was chipped away by many "smaller" buyers.  I can't help but think pantera would have just panic bought the whole block if all this was the case.
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