today we will know who will get a red trust ,

first , you get helped by a newbie Member , who never join the bounty program .

second , if you are not a scammer , give us the final spreadsheet , and the proof of transactions id to the bounty wallets .

i'm waiting your answer .

I am was also removed from both groups on 16 Nov, when asked a question. Surprised by this attitude. The bounty lasted half a year. Why the provision of documents gave only 2 days and did not notify by mail. The manager is not responding to me ...

The bounty sector is in shambles. Thousands of bounties ongoing right now and most of them are being managed by junior level members. There are members who manage dozens of bounties simultaneously and I don't think that these people have enough time available to screen out the scammers.

That's why KYC implemented to see hoe cheaters can pass this requirement. I think their only targeting some projects without KYC, so I suggest bounty managers should not announced KYC at first then surprise them at the end when campaign is over to conduct KYC.

Let try to get a red trust with comment "Cheating bounty with alts account" and you will know what effect of work that DTs are doing.


Actually, this name of forum is Bitcointalk, not Bountytalk. Even Altcoin section just appeared in few years ago. And Bounties is a child board of Altcoin section, it is as a sub-part of Bitcointalk forum. If theymos and his team decide to excute Bounties section, Bitcointalk will be still alive.

Hmm i was not aware of the article stealing in such amount, i doubt that that it is happening in such huge scale and even if translating with google is going trough then managers are to blame, this is their work.

About the airdrops, I actually dont care . Good for them, if they actually can find decent airdrop which will allow yo use bots . I mean if they are able to all the tasks necessary to obtain airdop, which is a handful most of times.

Being a member of Bitcointalk for more than 6 years, I am quite a bit bothered by what happening in the bounty section for the past few months. This is what I have noticed:

1. A lot of scam projects are creating bounty campaigns and ANN threads. Once the bounty campaign is finished, they vanish all of a sudden without paying the bounty hunters and leaving the investors in limbo.

2. The quality of the bounty managers have gone down. Junior level members are acting as bounty managers and they often don't update the spreadsheets and sometimes indulge in cheating by enrolling proxy accounts to the campaign.

3. Large number of newbs are signing up for bounty campaigns, often enrolling using purchased Facebook / Twitter accounts (esp. in Social media bounty). The quality of posts being done by the bounty campaign participants have gone down quite a lot during the last few months.

4. Even those bounties which pay end up listing at 80% or 90% discount to their original prices and in the end the honest bounty campaign participants end up with very small rewards. On the other hand, those signing up with 10-12 multiple accounts end up with sizeable rewards. And it is the latter category, which indulges in token dumping.

5. There is no incentive to hold on to the tokens, as a majority of the ICO promoters dump their tokens in the market and vanish. If you check, the vast majority of the listed ICOs are in a dormant or defunct state now.

I have a few suggestions to resolve some of the issues, before the issues go out of hand.

1. There should be a requirement that if anyone want to post an ANN in Bitcointalk, he must deposit 0.1% of the total amount (of the softcap) in an escrow account. For example, if a project is planning to raise $50,000,000 from the investors, then before creating the ANN thread the promoters must deposit $50,000 in either BTC or ETH to an escrow account held by the Bitcointalk staff. If the soft-cap is smaller, like $500,000 then the escrow amount should be 0.1% of that, i.e $500. If the promoters vanish, then this amount should be forfeited. Also, if the promoters go back on their promises once the tokens are listed, then this escrow amount should be frozen and may be (partially) released only if they achieve the objectives which they had promised earlier.

2. There should be a list of approved bounty managers and those outside this list should not be allowed to act in this role. There are a lot of trusted bounty managers here, like Yahoo62278 and Lutpin. I don't think that newbs should be given priority over them.

3. In order to participate in a bounty campaign, it should be mandatory for all the users to post their ETH address in the "Location" field in the profile. I have noticed a large number of spammers using someone else's BTT account and their own ETH address to enroll in to social media bounties. This step will put and end to the practise and will weed out the spammers.

4. All the bounty campaign participants must be carefully screened before the payout. In order to prevent token dumping, a few steps can be taken. Since the bounty reward is 1% to 3% of the total amount, the promoters themselves can purchase this portion from the exchanges. Or they can make the bounty payments in BTC/ETH. There should also be a condition that the promoters should hold on to 90% of their tokens for at least 12 months. (Because I have noticed that it is the promoters who do dumping in the vast majority of the cases, and they blame it on the bounty hunters).

5. KYC must be mandatory for ICO promoters and bounty campaign managers (unless they are on level 2 DT). If this is done, then the scammers won't be able to set up multiple fake ICOs.

I am posting this because now the real impact is becoming obvious. Experienced users are staying away from bounty campaigns and even very promising ICOs are getting listed at heavily-discounted rates. This can't go on forever.

Good ICOs need to be protected from the negativity in the market created by the fake ICOs.
Honest bounty hunters needs to be protected from the cheaters
Properly run bounty campaigns and airdrops should be appreciated and differentiated from the poorly managed ones.

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

They shouldn't be that difficult to detect, if they're using bots for sign-ups etc.
If the campaigns are actually somewhat decent, they can easily figure out the patterns of these bots and just deny them any payouts automatically.

That said, some campaigns just do not care. They're just in it for a quick money grab and they'll just pay out tokens to these bot farms.
Probably because it's cheaper for them than actually trying to fix it.

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

With the pump of Bitcoin (up to $20,000). It brough alot of new people into the Cryptocurrency world. People were telling people "Hey come to this Bitcoin Talk website and just talk about Bitcoin and  just stupid off topic stuff, and Once you reach a certain rank you can add banners and things and get paid in Bitcoin!!! The higher the rank the more Bitcoins you can earn"!!! So everyone flawked here to find that Theymos created a system to stop all of that nonsense!!!

Yes it is important as NO good BOUNTY MANAGER IS GOING TO HIRE SHIT/SPAM POSTERS! Make great quality, ontopic posts, and you should never have an issue ranking up or finding a bounty!!!

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

you should already know that there is no such thing as "free" in the world. so things such as "airdrop" has never been actually free even though it may look like it at first!
what they do is that they are actually "using" you to make money. you are working for them by spreading the word and freely advertising while getting some useless token they created out of thin air and they call that "Free".
these token creators want to make more money. and to do that they usually use KYC to pretend they are legitimate so that more people are fooled and invest in their token so that they can make more money. sometimes they also use KYC as an excuse to get your private information and then sell it on the dark market for more money!

Currently there are many bounty hunters who only use a Newbie account. Which means they have created a new account, maybe not just one.
Lots of people who have multiple accounts.
better in the future, allowed to join the Bounty is a minimum Jr.Member account.

I also often find people who intentionally use my account username to follow the bounty.

Bounty hunters have become so useless that they now offer an ICO nothing. All their Facebook friends, Twitter followers, YouTube subscribers, whatever -- its all fake numbers and they always do the bare minimum to promote an ICO. Even ranks on this forum are faked. Merits are bought and sold, accounts can be farmed, purchased, for absolutely no purpose other than to spam this forum with useless information.

And what kind of traffic do they end up driving to an ICO website? Almost nothing. Most bounty campaigns literally have more participants than they will ever receive hits to their website, meaning the average traffic driven to a website by today's bounty hunter is less than 1 visit per month. Again, its because of all the fudged numbers. Everything is faked, nothing is real. There is no quality control whatsoever.

I really don't understand why anybody does social media bounty campaigns any more. Translations, graphic designers, website builders, app developers -- those are the real bounty hunters. Social media bounty hunters are just scum sucking parasites. They root through garbage trying to collect digital specs of nothing, leaving a trail of trash behind them.

Nobody wants to learn a thing about anything -- they just want "free money" as easily as possible, which usually ends up being worthless anyway. Would most of you just be sitting around doing nothing if you didn't consider this to be a means of "employment"? My guess is the answer is "yes." Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Bounty hunters have become so useless that they now offer an ICO nothing. All their Facebook friends, Twitter followers, YouTube subscribers, whatever -- its all fake numbers and they always do the bare minimum to promote an ICO. Even ranks on this forum are faked. Merits are bought and sold, accounts can be farmed, purchased, for absolutely no purpose other than to spam this forum with useless information.

And what kind of traffic do they end up driving to an ICO website? Almost nothing. Most bounty campaigns literally have more participants than they will ever receive hits to their website, meaning the average traffic driven to a website by today's bounty hunter is less than 1 visit per month. Again, its because of all the fudged numbers. Everything is faked, nothing is real. There is no quality control whatsoever.

I really don't understand why anybody does social media bounty campaigns any more. Translations, graphic designers, website builders, app developers -- those are the real bounty hunters. Social media bounty hunters are just scum sucking parasites. They root through garbage trying to collect digital specs of nothing, leaving a trail of trash behind them.

Nobody wants to learn a thing about anything -- they just want "free money" as easily as possible, which usually ends up being worthless anyway. Would most of you just be sitting around doing nothing if you didn't consider this to be a means of "employment"? My guess is the answer is "yes." Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Do all bounty hunters dump Cryptos after they get paid?

I believe this is not a fair assessment as a lot has to do with the crypto project itself.

Its a matter of perspective really, not all bounty hunters have the same experience or motive, some people just need an opportunity to get crypto for projects that are very difficult to get in the token sales, Example is Ncash tokens of Nucleus.Vision the project has a 1 million USD budget and it is still above ICO price even in the bear market.

Additionally some projects treat bought hunters badly which will not encourage them to stick around for much longer after they get their tokens.

I believe tokens or coins getting dumped by bounty hunters depends a lot on the project itself.

Cheating in bounties and Airdrops is not a good thing but most people in this forum do engage in such acts. these days most bounty managers require users to make an authentication post before you can participate in their bounties and I believe this is a good way to curb the rate of cheaters that participate in bounties and airdrops.