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201  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Making Bitcoin and its Forks Turing Complete on: April 03, 2022, 07:14:28 AM
Helping someone make a bitcoin clone turing complete is like 'helping' them have an infinite coin supply.

Do you mean an uncapped supply?
If so, that's not the best example; since a tail emission can be quite useful [1] [2].
I agree that soft total supply should be capped.

[1] https://john-tromp.medium.com/a-case-for-using-soft-total-supply-1169a188d153
[2] https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~arvindn/publications/mining_CCS.pdf
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: March 23, 2022, 07:04:48 AM
https://forum.grin.mw/t/informal-bounty-100-grin-for-macos-m1-c32-miner/9652/2

I am offering 1 BTC for an open source Mac Studio (M1 Ultra) Cuckatoo32 miner achieving 0.5 Gps.

Also: Jackpot! (post #777 :-)  (still short of 6 merit to make it develish)
203  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 19, 2022, 07:15:26 AM
PoW has a technical flaw of requiring geometrically increasing amounts of energy

No it doesn't.
The only reason for Bitcoin to increase its energy use is for Bitcoin to increase in price,
on top of roughly doubling every 4 years for the next few decades to compensate halving block subsidies.

This is not a requirement. It's merely what seems to have happened in the past.
But as we know, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

It's more likely that any further price increases fail to compensate for dwindling block rewards, and energy usage will
stop rising as fast as it has in the past, or even decline.



204  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 18, 2022, 08:45:51 AM
SHA2 and SHA3 have almost identical computational cost. Yet the "PoW Produced (24h)" in that chart is almost the same and ETH hashrates is 4e-6 times bitcoin hashrate.

You REALLY have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
ETH's PoW is not SHA3, it's ethash.
Computing a single ethash hash involves two SHA3 hashes, along with many other MUCH more expensive computations (computing the DAG whose values are sampled during an ethash hash involves tons of SHA3 itself, but that is done offline once every 30000 blocks).
An ethash hash takes at least 4 orders of magnitude more energy to compute than a SHA3 hash.

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A scrypt hash is 4 orders of magnitude harder to compute than a SHA3-256 hash.
Scrypt has higher cost than SHA2/SHA3 (4 times according to you)

It's embarrassing how you don't even know what order of magnitude means.
205  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 17, 2022, 08:06:23 AM
algorithms that sometimes are roughly the same too (SHA3-256 vs scrypt)

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
A scrypt hash is 4 orders of magnitude harder to compute than a SHA3-256 hash.

Daily dollar emission on the other hand is a good proxy for how much energy will be spent competing for those rewards.
206  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 16, 2022, 09:45:35 PM
if I somehow acquired 10% of the total coins in circulation, of a PoS crypto, it'd be like I owned a part of the network... Forever.

So exactly the same as if you somehow acquired 10% of the total supply of a capped PoW coin...
207  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 16, 2022, 03:20:15 PM
Code:
BTC 215,000,000 THS
ETH         995 THS
LTC         443 THS
BCH   1,400,000 THS

Comparing hashrates of different PoWs is quite meaningless...

If you want to compare mining efforts, use something more meaningful like daily dollar issuance;
see the column labeled "PoW Produced (24h)" in https://www.f2pool.com/coins
208  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 15, 2022, 04:08:44 PM
one of the issues any other cryptocurrency has is that they have known founders and developers

Most Bitcoin developers are known; see the bottom "credits" section of [1] for instance.
An unknown founder is not unique to bitcoin either [2].

[1] https://bitcoincore.org/en/releases/22.0/

[2] https://docs.grin.mw/about-grin/story/
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: March 10, 2022, 07:13:15 AM
Hello. Will there be another hard fork  or upgrade near future ?

No, there won't be. And the PoW is not expected to ever change.
210  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and MimbleWimble on: March 09, 2022, 08:18:18 AM
You're right that the transparent "MW" may give some scalability improvements, but I don't find it nearly as appealing as the confidential version.

Such a transparent form of MW was first described in [1].

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281848.msg56034613#msg56034613
211  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it possible to let a transaction expire if it is not included in a block. on: March 08, 2022, 07:23:35 AM
I want to make a bitcoin transaction, but if it does not make it into the blockchain before a certain blockheight, I want the transaction to expire so that it can no longer be inserted into the blockchain. Is this possible?

As a layer 2 developer of Bitcoin I deem this capability very important and useful.

No. Not only is that not possible, but such a feature is considered undesirable, as it destroys monotonicity.
Monotonicity is the property that once a tx in the mempool is verified, then it remains valid as long as
its inputs are not spent.

Monotonicity not only simplifies mempool management by a lot, but also provides reorg-safety.
This means that in case of a re-org, any undone transactions (that wasn't doublespent) can still be redone.
212  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and MimbleWimble on: March 06, 2022, 07:39:35 AM
there would be no need for development in altcoins because different Drivechains will have different features, like all the different features in altcoins.

You can't have arbitrary features on side-chains.
Most importantly, you cannot have a change in emission.
E.g. a fair one, like 1 per second forever.
213  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and MimbleWimble on: March 04, 2022, 08:04:23 AM
Even with MimbleWimble, Bitcoin can't beat Monero in terms of privacy. Bitcoin would need to implement additional technology such as Ring Confidential Transaction (RingCT)

Monero's RingCT (and ZCash' zkSNARKs) scale poorly since you never know when outputs are spent, so you have to treat all outputs as your UTXO set.
214  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: March 01, 2022, 10:15:28 AM
You do have the option to not buy them from another miner, though.

Well yes, you could in theory design and build your own ASICs.

In practice though, you'd buy them from the likes of Bitmain,
which really is another miner as much as an ASIC manufacturer.
There's no telling how long the ASIC they ship you has been "tested" by them.
215  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] The long-known PoW vs. PoS debate on: February 28, 2022, 08:57:39 AM
I'm as pro PoW and anti PoS as anyone, but your case is not strengthened by the sloppy reasoning at the end:

In proof of work, when you setup your ASICs and start mining you're, intentionally or not, subsidizing decentralization as the rest of the miners suddenly have less power.

The same thing happens in proof of stake: To acquire voting power you buy stake from existing stake-holders, who end up having less power.

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The opposite happens in proof of stake: To acquire voting power you increase their gains.

Financial gains has little to do with it. If you buy ASICs from another miner, then you also increase their gains.
216  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Hashing the entire blockchain every hash: permanent ASIC resistance full node re on: December 23, 2021, 07:51:24 AM
you can't even mine with a single GPU, you'd need a GPU rig that consists of multiple units.

That makes no sense to me. How can mining with one GPU not be profitable, when mining with multiple GPUs is profitable?
That would seem to require something really weird like a sublinear electricity cost.
217  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The feasibility of shadow-coins by PoW / Layer 2 on: December 13, 2021, 05:14:48 PM
RandomX could be a good candidate for the shadow-coin as second layer of PoW..

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making it harder to perform a sybil / DoS attack [1] against nodes [2] in a blockchain system should be the main reason of such suggestion.

RandomX is the worst possible choice for preventing DoS attacks, as it is very expensive to verify.
A good PoW should instead offer instant verification, so the verifier's time cannot be wasted.
218  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Blockchain is 360GB and growing, can it be consolidated? on: December 07, 2021, 05:50:53 PM
seems pooya is stuck on the 'only verification'=full features..

Yes, pooya, along with most others in this discussion, as well as the vast majority of bitcoin experts,
is stuck on the notion that full node is short for fully verifying node.

You are one of a small minority of people that have miraculously overlooked this established terminology.
219  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Blockchain is 360GB and growing, can it be consolidated? on: December 06, 2021, 08:27:06 AM
> Although definition of certain terms are sometimes flexible but "full node" definition was always about "full verification" not "full storage and full verification".

Agreed.

Furthermore, many of the nodes considered to be full nodes are actually not,
as they ran with the default assumevalid = true.
220  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Blockchain is 360GB and growing, can it be consolidated? on: December 01, 2021, 09:00:26 AM
A full (as in fully verifying) node needs two things in order to sync to the state of some current header.

1) the UTXO set

2) a proof that this UTXO set results from a valid block history from genesis to the current header

Part 1) only accounts for a small fraction of the 360GB; the vast majority is taken by part 2).

But in principle, part 2) could be replaced by a so-called Succinct Non-interactive Argument of Knowledge with recursive verification, that would be vastly smaller than part 1).

See this book for more details:

https://zcash.github.io/halo2/concepts/proofs.html

This technology is still in its infancy, and formalizing the entire Bitcoin consensus model into a SNARK would be a monumental effort, not to mention constructing the proof (which would have to be redone at regular intervals, e.g. every few months). But verification would be very efficient.
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