hard to call bitcoin dead when it's up 1500% for the year and 25% away from ATH.
Can you imagine if it was a year ago at $1000 or 2 years ago at $200 and you said "in one year bitcoin will be dead at $15000"
Definitely not dead, but, hurt. |
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So it looks like crypto is dead then, the market seems to be deciding that a non crypto, centralised , distributed ledger is preferable to crypto currency or even smart contracts.
What I want to know is where are all the bankers declaring that ripple is a bubble and will crash and burn?
Very fucking interesting isn't it. Newbies are running this market now and they don't give a shit about any of the philosophies that BTC was founded on. Hell, they don't even know what a wallet is. |
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Bitcoin cannot flourish with $40 tx fees. Thats the whole point with these alts. btc needs to fix its shit first
This is part of the fuck up without a doubt. Shit look at ripple 147 billion, It will be overtaking BTC in a matter of days. Or this day |
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if you don't think holding solid over $10,000 is "momentum" then I can't help you
Its not when the entire cryptomarket cap has more than doubled in that time Go and buy some alts then luckily, I already have some, but, It's Bitcoin that I think should be the one flourishing. I'm just hoping that things go back to normal before Ripple takes over, that will be a big PR hit for BTC if it happens. BTC is being attacked and at the moment it looks like the attackers are winning. |
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if you don't think holding solid over $10,000 is "momentum" then I can't help you
Its not when the entire cryptomarket cap has more than doubled in that time. Going sideways is not up. I'm sure it will go up again, but the alts taking market share like this is pretty shocking, you have to admit that. I certainly didn't predict it. |
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The cycle for ATH is supposed to be 9 months, not 2 weeks!
not talking about ATHs here, I'm talking performance vs other coins. I've seen alts do well before when BTC has suffered, but not like this. |
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We've being saying that for weeks now and it hasn't happened, but, I hope you're right
3 whole weeks without an ATH and we're ready to throw in the towell  Not all time high, 3 weeks without momentum, when every other coin has it. |
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Crypto market cap supposedly 750 billion. It will be 1 trillion within a couple of days.
This is just the fuel needed for the BTC rocket reload as money will flood back from ripple etc; perhaps a new WO guessing game should be the date for when BTC dominance next exceeds 60%? We've being saying that for weeks now and it hasn't happened, but, I hope you're right |
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Looks like Yobit has these so far:
SBTC
B2X
GOD
ATOM
Could be worth a few Satoshis. If you have the energy.
Whats important is when you can deposit, not just trade. Yobit doesn't allow deposits in any of these coins. Currently: Bitcoin Diamond, sell on gate.io SuperBitcoin sell on okex.com You can download clients from github and import you priv. keys. Prices are slowly declining.. Thanx fluidjx. At least someone shows up with some useful information in this forum  Also, I don't think ATOM on yobit is bitcoin ATOM, that coin was listed months ago. Lightning Bitcoin is on there though under LBTC |
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Maybe they should just take ripple out of coinmarketcap to fix that, since it's not really crypto. I mean should we be including VISA in the market cap too? where is the cutoff?
I know right |
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I'm guessing BTC dominance will be under 30 by the end of the week. Such a sad sight and yes I am crying over it publicly.
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More free money is more free money.
Speaking of which, where's muh UnitedBitcoins monies?  Going to be distributed on the 24th I think https://www.ub.com/newsBut have you checked if you will be receiving any? I looked on ub explorer and it would appear that my ubtc has been sent to one of Garzik’s addresses. Not sure if he is planning to recalculate and give them out manually or if I didn’t fill the phase 2 criteria? Thought I had though? Will wait and see what happens I guess as I have no choice! I'd say the reason the coins don't show up on the explorer is because that transaction that is sent to Garzik's address is when he took the coins 12/12/2017.Providing that you have now fulfilled the criteria those coins will be sent back to you on the 24th. At least that's how I read it. |
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More free money is more free money.
Speaking of which, where's muh UnitedBitcoins monies? Going to be distributed on the 24th I think https://www.ub.com/news |
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I hear you on that. It would seem that in the end money corrupts all things.
And for a while there I thought the crypto market wouldn't be corrupted. Bitcoin losing it's number one spot will be a disaster for those that truly want to remove power from the banks/governments. |
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Good thing I didn't sell my shitcoins.
Another good thing is that maybe now Wu and Ver are realizing what they did?
AFAIK, there's NO mining on most of those shitcoins.
Yeah they fucked it, no doubt about it. they won't realize shit, sociopaths never admit they fucked up. |
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I just hope this doesn't push bitcoin down the ladder.
Of course it will. So in your opinion where do you think bitcoin will endin say the next 3 years? less then top 10? is bitcoin just going to become a fringe coin while the big coins will be the centralized government/bank approved coins? |
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It’s just the great crypto rotation. Next week it will be Raiblocks, Iota and NEM.
Notice how everyone has forgotten about Bcash?
A few months ago I helped a friend setup a Kraken account to buy some BTC. This guy is completely tech-/crypto-illiterate. To him, Bitcoin, Ripple, Stellar, DOGE, are all equivalent. A few weeks later he told me that BTC was too expensive for him to buy (a common newbie reaction). I explained to him that 1 BTC = 1000 mBTC, etc., so even 0.1 BTC is still a good investment. He ignored my advice. Using common sense, he concluded that the only chance he has to quickly multiply his investment would be to buy cheaper altcoins, because, according to his thinking, if they're cheap they have the potential to grow much faster and much more than BTC. He bought a few altcoins. No BTC. His two biggest purchases were 10000 Ripple and 10000 Stellar Lumens. He paid about 2000 € for both purchases. Today, his crypto stash is valued in excess of 30000 € (a 15x gain), with the majority of the gains coming from XRP and XLM. All this in just 4 months! Had he followed my advice, he would have less than 1/4 of what he has now... I told him that he should consider buying some BTC, but he's blinded by his unexpected gains and is now determined to ride the Ripple/Stellar wave until the end. I just hope he won't be disappointed when the trend reverses and the bank-coins start losing value (or BTC does a 10x again this year)... Yeah, I don't know. I mean they should correct at some point, but, I can't help but think sometimes that maybe we're blinded by old philosophies. I came to bitcoin because I hated corruption of banks and government, and knew how the monetary system was cheating the people and rewarding the rich. It doesn't seem like crypto is about that now, the newbies don't know shit, and don't care about a fairer world, it's pure greed. I just hope this doesn't push bitcoin down the ladder. |
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Cardano, Lumens and Ripple nag away Bitcoins dominance. Makes me a little sad. But maybe the time has come for some new leaders...  Yes, I am not happy about it. Blows my mind that its even close to possible. It wasn't easy for botcoin to get such a large marketcap then you have something like cardano, a coin that isn't even used get there in a matter of weeks |
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So United Bitcoin requires you to have sent a transaction in order to be credited with fork coins. Any address which has not sent coins is counted as “inactive”.
But of course most wallet software sending BTC simply splits the funds into two transactions - the sum being sent and a change transaction to a new address.
Which of course means that your sending address can’t be credited with UB coins because it’s now empty and your change address can’t be credited with coins because it’s “inactive” because it has never sent a transaction.
Which basically means Garzik keeps all the coins but gets to claim a market cap based on a Bitcoin airdrop. Garzik is so clever....
No, I don't think it works like that. They took a snap shot on December the 12th or something like that so even if those addresses have no coins I think they will be credited with how many coins were on them when the snapshot took place. Even if all coins were sent it should still be good. The UB block explorer is showing my addresses as empty. Maybe the Phase 2 distribution has not been carried out even though Phase 2 is now over. Mine is too at the moment, so maybe too early. Wait and see I guess, or maybe I was wrong about the process I suspect phase 2 will need to be sent over the chain to the addresses that satisfy the criteria. They stole all the coins in the first round, so they would need to redistribute these coins in second round. |
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So United Bitcoin requires you to have sent a transaction in order to be credited with fork coins. Any address which has not sent coins is counted as “inactive”.
But of course most wallet software sending BTC simply splits the funds into two transactions - the sum being sent and a change transaction to a new address.
Which of course means that your sending address can’t be credited with UB coins because it’s now empty and your change address can’t be credited with coins because it’s “inactive” because it has never sent a transaction.
Which basically means Garzik keeps all the coins but gets to claim a market cap based on a Bitcoin airdrop. Garzik is so clever....
No, I don't think it works like that. They took a snap shot on December the 12th or something like that so even if those addresses have no coins I think they will be credited with how many coins were on them when the snapshot took place. Even if all coins were sent it should still be good. |
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