If monero is truly anonymous could you please show some proof.
Main Problem of monero is the complete missing GUI Client. Have you ever tried setting up a client and sent a monero? It a pain in the ass
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I rather loses about $30 worth of Bitcoins on Navajocoin than buy 15 Darkcoins for the same prices. If Navajocoin reaches a value of $1.00 per coin that is about $20,000 from only investing $30.00 USD!
do you think this happens, 1 NAV = 1$ ? Possible is everything and NAV has some suprises in his bag!
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I can't agree here bros. Real Anonymous Solution still hasn't been made in crypto. Darkcoin - yeah, it's a good technology, but it doesn't provide FULL anonymity. That's a fact. About other anon coins - most of them are pretty much copy/paste solutions. They don't provide true and full anonymity either. They just give some part of it - makes transactions harder (but still able to !) to trace. New, innovative Anon System can really become a huge deal in crypto world. Just my two sats This is true! There is no real anonymity right now. All depends on coinmixer and so on. If NAV makes a step forward it will gain much interest in the cryptoworld! my 2 cents
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Guys it's simply. You know that story goes circle.look at the cann coin.look at the price 8 weeks before -about 350satoshi .ok now look at the price last weekend 15000satoshi. The same situation will be with nav after anon relase . Now 200-300satoshi later about 13000-15000 satoshi. I dont want to say "oh nav is the best coin ever buy it buy it!"i just want you to think a little and look past and then make a decision to be in or not;)
Exactly dude! +1000
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but do the exchanges have their own wallets? i mean is it possible the top 2 are exchanges wallets?
I think it's highly possible, sure - exchanges have their own wallets. In most altcoin's richlists first addresses are exchange's wallets Possible, but if they are "live" exchange addresses, we should see no POS and lot activity on them, transferring from local user address to main exchange address and the withdrawals to the user personal address. Instead almost nothing. Now rich list data are public, so I can show them without ruin the game. Look at these data: Deep Watch Report Address total Last (UTC) Staked POW CoinBlk received oper sent oper DWR sJVkG6Z5FzVTxaUYHdJQ5HoKQxZF9zaRCQ 3674700.96788249 2014-08-14 20:40:5 0 0 3 3674700.96788249 3 0.00000000 0 DWR sfEa3qpPcmhe8z1TDuqHhC63yqNP9cpsU6 3000710.00000000 2014-08-09 18:59:1 0 0 4 9098931.44103693 15 6098221.44103693 11 DWR sPBwKToXXEarMqc6CJcNYWf1AxmhYqpZZH 2103293.02217137 2014-10-14 22:16:4 0 0 455 9529756.24961108 892 7426463.22743971 437 DWR seF8MP9rY9m98NvQ1Rvz3hTvShrLkjZ9Si 1947261.73811956 2014-10-15 17:49:5 61084 0 1999 107969141.61575565 79523 106021879.87763609 77524 DWR sa9r31Qz1VoGRTso8mquwN6o78wkM6ZgMk 1770000.00000000 2014-09-30 17:49:4 0 0 177 4630000.00000000 445 2860000.00000000 268 DWR sNyNwMYKkZFnzdx72qxUy3pRZtTSQdtqtr 1699018.57784314 2014-10-14 22:16:4 0 0 3 5339235.10679897 27 3640216.52895583 24 DWR sZv9s9HhPafjoVjkY676qMCWhEjk2HcztT 1521821.89601138 2014-10-15 02:10:0 0 0 1 1521821.89601138 1 0.00000000 0 DWR sfHdGy1ZbpMzpMQSi2GpLy2befdzdEhvw8 1500000.00000000 2014-07-19 15:24:4 0 0 3 3130570.00000000 5 1630570.00000000 2 DWR sRsizG2CmRNYWSNErVavXzZ3yK5RUFMBgU 1412033.30296729 2014-10-01 08:49:5 0 0 5 5345404.39902716 17 3933371.09605987 12 DWR shYPsu2z6tx7ZFgNXyfPhAcL2fCwC4E7T1 1348199.73279356 2014-10-14 08:29:0 4002 0 1161 24058823.15394052 5618 22710623.42114696 4457 DWR sJuCBcJ34RGAwRZvidSBNFkWmeT3bFGgoa 1175269.00000000 2014-07-25 18:53:5 0 0 1 1175269.00000000 1 0.00000000 0 DWR sexovu7C2uGXHy44feu1x8KoF6xTXDXtGK 1037144.80081787 2014-10-15 15:12:4 31139 0 1013 60304119.39122564 39027 59266974.59040777 38014 DWR sWrH4S1Dxew211HFioq94vTQTyp71DJGBJ 949351.83846060 2014-10-15 14:39:0 215 0 68 14178912.03849196 371 13229560.20003136 303 DWR sY2nmk52hyTrQZ29g8jb4wsUz1JBkXSmKv 943855.43335872 2014-08-06 10:40:1 0 0 5745 944005.45825472 5746 150.02489600 1 DWR sNoXCRivVr2hBePZBrjocAnxqDui6ftK8J 846490.29086387 2014-10-15 17:56:2 14053 0 935 19930546.34558942 19245 19084056.05472555 18310 DWR shKVpTZYwGKWepy8m89vbVQxBTZ2MVmBrL 818738.06224194 2014-10-13 09:17:0 3081 0 533 17978618.70872670 3935 17159880.64648476 3402 DWR sYda5naMuzKRKnLeGaFaF1VMtxzKyji5CF 809430.15231017 2014-10-15 17:19:3 1066 0 11 4538784.22178387 1419 3729354.06947370 1408 DWR sa17i3piENaPDpfVkAM4sXBV6va3iHZC1u 776446.15063252 2014-10-15 08:35:0 3827 0 579 16875412.47383101 5054 16098966.32319849 4475 DWR sVhfz7hBERzAT66NMT7edkZZAojwDKNJow 734172.34511052 2014-09-08 15:21:0 0 0 3 887583.51997725 6 153411.17486673 3
As you can see, many of the heavy addresses don't show any activity of staking, nor POW, only few big transfers. May be this addresses are cold storage wallet, but this thing (and the loss of staking) is puzzling me a little. Bye Bye those dates and stake amounts are prety interesting to see. the 3,5million can that be the address of the double spend coins or where those "real" onces destroyed? so who are those 2 big ones i know the 2 million guy is a forum member here... oh and im the one with the 4000 stake in the list, as said before i dont really stake much, but will try to do it more from now on. so if we skipp the first 2 im in the top 8 hehe ok I am going to get me some more ;-)
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Hi when i lookup my wallet I get the correct value including all stakes. Could be a little difference because it is only updated every hour and not showing the last stakes?
In fact, the indication of the time (and / or the block number) of the page last update would be very useful. Remind you of anything? Bye Bye You are so right! ;-) I will add the last block counted asap!
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The list is still showing 2 wallet address from my wallet?
Hi hashmaster1, can you give some details to this? But what you describe is possible. Greetings shahim
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btw, perhabs noobie question, but all staked coins aren't shown at the richlist... why? i have the newest wallet but i just see my transferred coins, not my staked...
thx in advance to any answer
Hi when i lookup my wallet I get the correct value including all stakes. Could be a little difference because it is only updated every hour and not showing the last stakes? If you like you can pm me with details, so I can take a look. Regards
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If you could for a moment try to be objective here and see the conversation as an outsider you would realize how zealous you sound. Navajocoin is not a cult, its just a digital currency, and at least for now, a small time one. It could have become major if not for a few very unlucky (and in very bad timing) setbacks but it didn't. Maybe it will rise, maybe it won't. We are all on the same boat here but spam posts preaching to the converted bring no benefit at all. Only further irritation.
If I were not already invested, seeing those constant posts from 3-4 people quoting the first page and talking about NAV anon as if it were judgement day would probably be enough to scare me away
Minerjoen is only saying what many people think. He is doing it in a polite and articulate manner, at least in that last post If that upsets you, it is probably because you are scared it might be true.
This is NOT an assault against you or the coin, merely an observation. But if you choose to see it that way, so be it. I guess I have not "contributed" anything either so maybe you think my opinion is worthless if it doesn't include praise, but if you're planning to flame me, please don't bother. There is no point.
Yeah, i just want to discuse about the situation. I said i dont want to start an attack. I've invested also in this coin. I tried to talk as i'm an adult.. But when u look at the 12 yr old reaction from hashforce.. There is no chance to talk serious here. Hashforce, if u want to live a dream, go sleep. I'm woke up and just see a bad situation here. We should not argue here like in kindergarden! None of us. But situation is not as bad right now! We have constant movement and a team of people caring for this! U should know that since you are also here very long and remember 2 months ago! Now something is happening and NAV will move forward step by step, which is better then other coins do right now. And it is no scam at all
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NavajoCoin Community its time to build the buy wall! on Bittrex - The rest will follow
its time people we can only do this together.
United we stand ! Go NavajoCoin
For sure you mean this well ( or ur just the one who just sell when the price is a bit higher ) But there is still no reason to buy this coin bro, there is nothing special at this moment. About anon, maybe it's to late, maybe it's not.. There are many other anon coins what are proved to be good and active. I dont sell, but i also dont buy more. Just because there is no reason to buy. If you think the big investors are active on this forum, i guess ur wrong.. Big investors looks at the profity they can make, the change u lose many money on this coin is to big. Everytime i tought ok this coin can't get lower so i bought some more, it only get lower -,- If it goes like this bittrex will delete navajo. At the begin (3-4months ago) people bought because the whitepaper with that anon transaction was nice to read, but if the dev team can't work this out in reall after 4 months, the trust for almost all people are gone. I dont say this anon will never come, i got trust in this dev team. But the trust you and i have in the dev team is just for a small amount of people. Realistic people dont trust it. Time will tell what happens I think it will go up when new anon tech comes out! No copy paste but new system, competition to darksend!
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1/Can I ask how POS blocks are formed? Currently there are ~452 000 blocks. I earn a minimum of 0,000... to maximum of ~2.5... stake per block. Is there any chance to change "Proof of Stake" to less blocks with larger reward? Because if you leave it until the end of the year will have over ~1 million blocks, and when a new investor wants to synchronize wallet will take a very long time (like when I synchronize BTC wallet/extremely painful)! 2/We need multipool/s, that will ensure price stability, outside people who want to invest small portions of the coin and traders! 3/Can be built in NAV_wallet Block Explorer and Rich List? 4/Needs to be done a RoadMap! /i'm sure that @hashforce101 will do this for even without money / Talking about soon or further is not enough! So give too much expression of speculators and FUDers! When do RoadMap however there will be a lot more support and assistance! If you @Soopy, as the only programmer can not do the job quickly, RoadMap will be insurance with dates that will be far in the future sufficient to make the project safely! But maybe, if you have faith in another good programmer to work together? No matter what, but investors will be able to know when the project will be realized! When reverse the line coming: 1/@Soopy You save this coin! You Give new purpose to it! 2/Overcome the greed of people who made "double spend" attack! 3/Navajo Coin wallet with chat!*is here 4/Block Explorer & Rich List!*coming 5/Anonymous Messaging System!*coming 6/Anonymous sending!*coming These are my thoughts. I would be grateful if the foundation pondered them. Taking a Moment to answer your kind questions.
1. POS Blocks are formed every 30 seconds
2. Yup for this we are working on a solution called a bootstrap.dat , where the user just downloads the file and place it in %APPDATA% and the network synchronizes just like being used in Bitcoin and Litecoin.
3. Yup there were few multipools but I believe they went down due to the attacks , I will inform the Foundation to coordinate with them and try to bring the back , thank you very much for pointing this out.
4. We already have the block explorer and Richlist , they just need to be linked to Wallet , Which will be done in the next update , We had a few things to straighten out and that's why it was not on the current update.
5. Actually Hashforce out of goodwill has provided us help in forming up a roadmap and it is being further discussed and approved by the Foundation before release , so you should see that soon.
Thank you very much for your support as always mate , appreciate that very much.
If you have further queries please do not hesitate to forward them to me via PM or here.
Thank you once again for strengthening out hands and walking with us in together and understanding the same.
~SoopY~Hey Soopy, An idea for the bootstrap: can there be automatic download feature inside the wallet. It checks the actuality of the blockchain data and when it differs more than a week or so it downloads the file and puts it in his folder? After that restart and syncing will be very fast!? Just a question because I have seen many people asked where to put and often windows users are not technical enough to work with appdata folder, cause it is hidden
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It's there, but still shows error: "Waiting on client update from devs. No deposits will post until that is complete."
But it works. I just deposited few coins for a test and it worked. Me too
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Got this message, so perhaps some hours to start:
Hello shahim,
Thank you for your patience. Navajocin is now back online and all transactions such as deposits were posted. Trades had been resumed as well.
If you have further questions, feel free to connect with us anytime.
Have a good one!
Sincerely, Karen Cryptsy.com
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Any clue when things will be taken care of on the Cryptsy exchange? I have a sizeable open order when it happens. I wanna be a whale early...
As a matter of fact... 125K @ 1 sat
All your pocket money at once? Crazy!
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NavCoin is already in maintenance mode as our technical support team is working on an update for the wallet. The coin is currently offline and we are unable to view deposits, withdrawals and other transactions until it is back online.
May I ask if you have a transaction that you would like us to take a look at when the coins gets back online?
He asked you, if you wanted him to control a your transaction? But how can you have a transaction if they have not enabled their wallet ?! IMHO, it seems to me like the typical response of someone who wants to be polite, but do not have the slightest ideas of the situation. It seems the answer to the first level of assistance, or those who act as a filter between the simple clients, and the true technicians. IMHO, before ask again Crypsy explanations, perhaps it would be more useful to wait to have a fully functional block explorer, in such a way that all the technical tools of control are available and visible to all. At that point it might be the same Head Dev, or collectively all the foundations, to ask at BigVern why the wallet is still offline, being able to do it with more strength and with real technical results in hand. I do not want to put another pressure on you Dev Team, I know what you are capable of, but only to avoid another pointless answer from Cryspy, vague and interlocutory. Aside from that, I was a little behind in the forum and I have a lot to read, is all spinning smoothly? Bye Bye Hi remy, Everything will work out as expected! Cryptsy wrote me back. They will give me a note as NAV will be online there. And to the transaction , I chosed that when I opened a new ticket. Cause I did not know what else to choose as headline;) Regards Shahim
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Cryptsy is waiting for NAV update.
have u got detail information from cryptsy?
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WE WANT 2800 SATS!
You forgot a zero I want 28000
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Some news from cryptsy. Seems they are working on bringeing nav online!
Hello shahim,
Thank you for contacting us and for the information.
NavCoin is already in maintenance mode as our technical support team is working on an update for the wallet. The coin is currently offline and we are unable to view deposits, withdrawals and other transactions until it is back online.
May I ask if you have a transaction that you would like us to take a look at when the coins gets back online?
Sincerely,
Cryptsy.com
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