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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | No Premine | 50% cooler/50% less wattage than scryp on: March 14, 2014, 04:03:07 PM
The question I'd like to know is why on EARTH are they running a gigahash rig through a pool... Surely that's enough to solo mine extremely profitably for the foreseeable future?

They'd have to set up a wallet somewhere and point all those (thousands?) clients there.

And the wallet being somewhere on a computer they can trust, would potentially mean that they could be traced.

Aha I see now. So basically what it comes down to is it's most likely a botnet or other illicit group of machines, and having it point at a mining pool stops the owner being accountable for their connections. I don't see why they don't use P2Pool if trust is such an issue. That would fairly immediately stop the network being so close to a mess all the time, and almost nobody's fees are high enough to make it pay out less.

It could also just be someone who is looking to burst mine every once in a while when they get a block of compute from a provider like amazonaws. Or they run another cluster that mines when other cores aren't in use.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 01:07:01 PM
You're missing an important thing. Darkcoin is, at a minimum, as anonymous as bitcoin. That's worst case scenario if we say darksend can be cracked. If not, it's more anonymous than bitcoin, probably way more, and only getting better. I think it's a great move from the owners.

The whole point of the existence of darkcoin is that it's a trustless solution. There are already bitcoin mixing services that use coinjoin. What is the point of making darkcoin when there are already coinjoin services? Because darkcoin is trustless, once it's open sourced. By suggesting it should be closed source is negating the point of darkcoin, requiring trust for a supposedly trustless solution.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 11:58:27 AM
What post? I think you forgot to quote.

There's no post. There's no post with the subject: "Hey all, everyone got together and thought about it and agreed that this is the reason why the price is so low."

Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, there are shills who vehemently deny it until any real talk eventually gets drowned out in the sea of clueless cheerleading.

I know this sounds trollish. But I'm a supporter of dark, despite these flaws. If you want to understand as well, I would suggest taking an afternoon and reading back, or doing the math behind the price. There's no need to keep rehashing the same old argument that people don't want to have.

I could bother to type out a coherent, well formatted post, only to have 10 other people whose interests it hurts pick apart my post with half truths or bullish pitches. And it would have the opposite effect that I would like. I'd like people to think for themselves and not rely on the most recent page for what they should be thinking, or more importantly, what they should be doing with their money.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp on: March 10, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
Do people REALLY not understand why and how the price is kept low?

The answer has been brought up several times and it's obvious to everyone except the people who start their question with "dark is the best thing in my life and can do no wrong.. but...?"

I expected people involved in crypto to think for themselves just a bit more.
^Now this was facetious, especially considering the previous 399 pages of this post.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DARKROAD OFFICIAL LAUNCH!!! Now Accepting DarkCoin on: March 04, 2014, 06:03:59 AM
nvm... i'm talking about one thing and you keep on bringing up stuff about your browser.. gl all
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DARKROAD OFFICIAL LAUNCH!!! Now Accepting DarkCoin on: March 04, 2014, 03:02:24 AM
You may want to announce it on reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets.

Good job btw!

no-Script is giving me warnings about reddit. Could you post for me?

if you're using noscript, you've already lost..

it doesn't seem you understand the layers of technologies you will need for a venture like this..

also, in before "come at me bro, i'm behind 7 proxies"
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
And when you put the facts down, like 300k iceland citizens vs 450mn market cap, it's like 1.5m USD per icelander  Roll Eyes Yeah, that will end up well...

Except your math is wrong. It'd be right... if 300 people lived in Iceland. But you're off by 3 orders of magnitude.

It would be like 1.5k per icelander, which is not a bad number to stimulate mass adoption.

edit: ps. I own no AUR and don't care about it.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 05:58:09 AM
made a bit of headway getting miner built for cpu on centos
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 02, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
I see 0.8.7 on sourceforge but not on github?

Gatra, can you confirm that you are the same gatra that is authoring at https://github.com/riecoin/riecoin.git

Please update github if possible. Thanks.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 25, 2014, 11:26:28 PM
Please launch DARKERCOIN with 5% premine of 100 billion DarkerCOINS. I want to invest in your IPO!!

You already invested into a coin with dev having 25% of issued coins.

where are you getting this info from

stop spreading fud


They changed the formula for block reward and didn't leave a disclaimer on the front page telling people the original formula for early adopters.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 25, 2014, 07:18:06 PM
No need to get offensive. Being the first IS important whether you agree or not.  I never said don't open source it, I clearly said "too soon", try reading again next time.  

Clearly most people have agreed with me.  Being established first is just good business. We have all invested time and money into this coin in someway or other.

We need to get our foot in the door, and not get steamrolled by other more established coins simply implementing Darksend, or maybe DS? things get shortend eg, KGW....

Why get offended? Re-read your post. That's what you sound like.

Clearly most people who are here agree with you? How is that not obvious? Breaking news! A forum post filled with investors in a coin take the short sighted view.

So far I haven't seen Eduffield, you know.. the person doing all the work, chime in on the matter except to say that he's putting in work. And everyone's opinion whose not doing shit but posting on a forum means zero next to his, including mine. I'm just giving a good counter argument instead of listening to a bunch of greedy motherfuckers like you. Sorry in advance if motherfucker offends you more than being called a 2 year old.

Eduffield, this coin will get what's coming to it already. You know that because of how much hype these people are putting into the coin. You got what's yours from your instamine. Please don't forget that you're building from the shoulders of giants. Coinjoin or darksend should belong to the community.

Also:
Community won't trust a coin that is close-sourced.
+1
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 25, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
Yes, we know the DarkSend test is soon, but when people ask when it will be, they already know it is soon, so saying 'soon' isn't really any kind of answer! :/ Throw us a bone with numbers written on it, if you catch my drift. 

 Grin

I don't have a date, but I'm guessing in 2-3 more tests I'll allow people to start using DarkSend on the mainnet using the ubuntu/windows binaries. There's really no risk to using it and it should be stable in a couple weeks.

The problem is to opensource it I need to do a fair amount of work to secure the way it works and make sure it's very robust in dealing with possible errors/issues. But I can start to work on that while you all are using it on mainnet.

Awesome great to hear! Just as long as we're the first coin! Wink  I think it's good in the longterm that you want to open source it, I'm just worried you might open source it too soon?  We need to get Darkcoin as THE anonymous coin, (just like bitcoin was and is THE digital coin) and get it established before.  All over the news etc.  If it's open source I'm worried the news etc, will just pick up on the technology, rather than the coin, and pass it over.  Letting other coins adopt the technology, and leaving the original, and your hard work in the dust.

Surely is Darkcoin / Darksend, is THE way to send anonymously, surely it's better than being one of many ways / coins..

What you said sounds like a 2 year old shouting MINE MINE MINE. If you're not going to open source it and only give out closed binaries, how would this be any different than a closed payment company handling transactions. The difference between open source and closed source have less to do with features, and more to do with earned trust vs blind faith.

Eduffield, you should open source it as you intended.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CureCoin Progress Update--Launch Approaching! on: February 15, 2014, 07:45:34 PM
update on launch:

http://curecoin.us/index.php?topic=1126.0
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ANN Curecoin Fundraiser, donate 1 BTC recieve 10k CureCoins on: November 26, 2013, 07:42:01 PM
Many apologies on my slow responses, I have received about 100 private messages since the Fundraiser launch, Im still trying to respond to them.

As of now the 1 BTC recieve 10k CureCoins fundraiser is closed. I believe I have enough funds to give everyone the curecoin we have all been waiting for. You will see updates rolling out soon.

So to put this in a really simple message so there aren't disputes later:

All donators up until 11:16:58 PM November 25, 2013 forum time have their donations secured at a rate of 10,000CUR per 1 BTC donated to the address 1JESUE.......

I'm partly to blame for the privmsg flood as I sent 3 private message to cygnusxi, but what happened was this:

I only found out about this curecoin yesterday and I immediately messaged cygnusxi letting him know my intention to donate 1BTC on November 25, 2013, 08:58:07 PM forum time. But as I'm EST in the US, and could not reach my wallet until I got home. I donated the second I got home, which was around 11pm with tx id: 96288981bbfb7434b8d25bf30a021587c56b9727d964c799644faf4dd817bb4b

So you have another 1btc in your receiving address unaccounted for. Please add me in.
75  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Smartcoin Linux mining administration. [MULTI-MACHINE SUPPORT NOW IN!] on: August 23, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
A couple more bugs:

1. If I don't split the screen fast enough when smartcoin loads up, and focus each window of the screen, I don't see the timestamp at the top (which is important to tell if smartcoin froze up).

2. When smartcoin creates its persistent ssh connections, it should do so using screen, or use a pid file so it can kill old ones. After running smartcoin for a while,

I had this many:
Code:
toor@z:~$ ps ux | grep ssh | grep smartcoin
toor       469  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor       519  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      2289  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      2336  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      2785  0.0  0.0  38556   992 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      2790  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      2795  0.0  0.0  38556   840 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      2926  0.0  0.0  38556   992 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      2931  0.0  0.0  38556   848 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      2936  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      3316  0.0  0.0  38564   964 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      3321  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      4408  0.0  0.0  38556   988 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      4409  0.0  0.0  38556   848 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      4410  0.0  0.0  38556   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      4549  0.0  0.0  38556   988 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      4554  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      4559  0.0  0.0  38556   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      4942  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      4947  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      6261  0.0  0.0  38564   960 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      6308  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      6563  0.0  0.0  38564   952 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      6610  0.0  0.0  38556   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      7212  0.0  0.0  38564   960 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8086  0.0  0.0  38556   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8384  0.0  0.0  38564   992 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8389  0.0  0.0  38556   844 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8391  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8525  0.0  0.0  38564   992 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8530  0.0  0.0  38564   848 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8535  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   03:01   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8712  0.0  0.0  38564   992 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8713  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8714  0.0  0.0  38556   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      8853  0.0  0.0  38564   992 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8858  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8863  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8924  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   03:01   0:03 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor      8929  0.0  0.0  38564   960 ?        Ss   03:01   0:03 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      9271  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor      9279  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     15076  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     15157  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:03 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     15302  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:03 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     15807  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   Aug22   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     18494  0.0  0.0  38556   960 ?        Ss   02:58   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     18541  0.0  0.0  38556   956 ?        Ss   02:58   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     19761  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   02:59   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     19858  0.0  0.0  38564   960 ?        Ss   02:59   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     20354  0.0  0.0  38556   956 ?        Ss   02:59   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     21048  0.0  0.0  38556   956 ?        Ss   02:59   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     27291  0.0  0.0  38564   964 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     27338  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     29410  0.0  0.0  38556   992 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     29415  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     29416  0.0  0.0  38564   840 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     29551  0.0  0.0  38556   992 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     29556  0.0  0.0  38564   844 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     29561  0.0  0.0  38564   840 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
toor     29941  0.0  0.0  38564   960 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.2 m@a
toor     29950  0.0  0.0  38564   956 ?        Ss   03:00   0:00 ssh -q -n -p 22 -i /home/toor/.ssh/id_rsa.smartcoin -o BatchMode=yes -NfM -S /tmp/smartcoin.ssh_connection.3 j@b
This is on 3 machines (localhost + 2 remote) that each have 1 device and 2 workers.

Exiting and restarting smartcoin adds more.
76  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Smartcoin Linux mining administration. [MULTI-MACHINE SUPPORT NOW IN!] on: August 23, 2011, 12:42:43 PM
I was looking over a small part of the code, specifically the status window and I think there's lots of things that can be trimmed to make smartcoin be a bit faster.

A good example is this part:
Code:
    for device in $R
    do
        deviceName=$(Field 1 "$device")
        deviceID=$(Field 2 "$device")
        deviceType=$(Field 3 "$device")
        if [[ "$deviceType" == "gpu" ]]; then
            Launch $G_MACHINE_INFO "sleep 0.2" # aticonfig seems to get upset sometimes if it is called very quickly in succession
                temperature=$(Launch $G_MACHINE_INFO "DISPLAY=:0 aticonfig --adapter=$deviceID --odgt | awk '/Temperature/ { print \$5 }';")
            Launch $G_MACHINE_INFO "sleep 0.2" # aticonfig seems to get upset sometimes if it is called very quickly in succession
                usage=$(Launch $G_MACHINE_INFO "DISPLAY=:0 aticonfig --adapter=$deviceID --odgc | awk '/GPU\ load/ { print \$4 }';")
            status=$status"$deviceName: Temp: $temperature load: $usage\n"
        fi
    done

could easily be done without 2*(# of adapters) aticonfig calls.

Code:
aticonfig --adapter=all --odgc > /tmp/odgc
aticonfig --adapter=all --odgt > /tmp/odgt
awk '
    $1 ~ /Adapter/ {
        adapter=$2
        for (i=0;i<5;i++) {getline}
        print substr($NF,1,match($NF,/%/)-1) > "/tmp/odgc."adapter
    }
' /tmp/odgc

awk '
    $1 ~ /Adapter/ {
        adapter=$2
        getline
        print substr($(NF-1),1,match($(NF-1),/\./)-1) > "/tmp/odgt."adapter
    }
' /tmp/odgt

This could easily spit out core and temps to the files which can be read much quicker (less load on ati drivers or querying gpus).
77  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Too many threads/much bloat? on: August 23, 2011, 08:02:02 AM
So I have a handful of mining rigs running 4 cards each (sempron 140/5850's).

At the current moment, I have a heavily editted linuxcoin that I pxeboot and automatically starts mining with a cascade of screens that report back to the head node and I have a watch window over each miner, etc. The drawback of my approach is that it relies on 1. nfs for loading user/pass database or 2. hard packing it into squashfs. I can see how using smartcoin might be an easier approach assuming it worked the way it advertised. In testing, I've found several bugs/issues and I'd be grateful if you all can confirm whether these are things being worked on or acknowledged.

*) In my testing, latest phoenix, poclbm, and smartcoin was used and tested with ati 11.6 and 11.8 drivers.

1) When handling multiple machines, I constantly have the windows for remote machines not update after a while. This is not a connection problem. It's just smartcoin that does this.

2) I haven't done enough testing yet to see what causes the problem (and this is why I'm reaching out to see if others have similar issues), but CPU usage is inconsistent.

On my local machines (not dedicated mining rigs), I run a 4 window screen with phoenix instances with low aggression in each. They each use .3% cpu and the computers are usable.
When I set these machines up as remote machines from the dedicated smartcoin machine however, they run only 3 phoenix instances (exact same path, also with low aggression) and phoenix takes up 33% cpu.
With 2 pheonix instances, it uses up 50% each. Both of these cause my local machines to lag out the gui and make them unusable by the housemates.

On dedicated mining rigs, I have them running 4 phoenix instances (on 4 cards) and it eats up .7% cpu, so again, negligible.
When I set up smartcoin however, I ideally wanted them to each run 3 instances, so I set it up to run 12 phoenix instances. Each instance took up max % available cpu and 1 of the instances was always killed. When it was killed, it resulted in skewed numbers in the summary window because it did not show it was killed. For instance:
miner00: [133 mh/s] (not really running but still showing 133.3 mh/s)
miner01: [133 mh/s]
miner02: [133 mh/s]
miner03: [133 mh/s]
miner04: [200 mh/s]
miner05: [133 mh/s]
miner06: [133 mh/s]
miner07: [133 mh/s]
miner08: [200 mh/s]
miner09: [133 mh/s]
miner10: [133 mh/s]
miner11: [133 mh/s]

The total then showed 1733 mh/s instead of the correct 1600 mh/s because it couldn't tell what was going on. When I load up the miner screen, I can press o to reload that window and have it relaunch the miner. As soon as I do this, another window (usually 1 or 2 windows after that one) gets killed. It's not hung. It says Killed on the window so it's smartcoin killing the processes.

So:
a. Summary window needs work on updating. And also detecting when miners are killed (especially when smartcoin is the one doing it).
b. Why is the cpu being eaten up? Because it works properly when I launch it from my scripts, but when smartcoin launches it (with the exact same parameters), it eats up more cpu.
c. Does anyone have any experience running smartcoin with 4+ cards and 3+ workers? (12+ phoenix instances) on a single sempron?

Thanks for your time, it's pretty impressive work, but so far, my custom image that I whipped up over a weekend does a far better job with less bloat: 0.0? load averages as opposed to 1.5+ consistent. SmartCoin will be great if it gets to where it needs to be but it still needs a bit to get there.
78  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GreenGold - a modest proposal for miners with guaranteed returns! on: August 13, 2011, 02:52:20 AM
How does that work?

I rent out a room in a house (3-4 other people do the same....I say 3-4 cause one just moved out and one will be moving in).  Landlord pays all utilities.   My assumption is the house is already paid off and he's totally banking on renting out the place, so the utility factor doesn't matter.



Then you don't get free utilities. Your cost of electricity is factored into your rent. You're either:
1. getting a sneaky discount from your landlord by turning $x of his utility bill into y btcs.
2. stealing from your roommates (as your landlord will factor in average utility into next year's rent payments and 3-4 other people will be paying a slightly higher rent for your usage).

Either way, it can't be both sustainable and honest. There's a limit to how much you can mine before your landlord realizes there's something fishy going on. Or your roommates.

I can go out and try the same thing. I can go rent an efficiency for $400 with "free" utilities. But will I be able to mine $400 worth of utilities? Fuck no.

This only works for you because your mining operation is low level enough to be able to hide among your roommates and not attract attention while you already pay to live there.
79  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: [MINER] Phoenix - New efficient, fast, modular miner **BFI_INT support!** on: August 02, 2011, 09:46:22 PM
Quote
The rewrite for the RPC protocol is finished, and has been uploaded to the SVN.

It works fine in my testing, but more feedback would be great before pushing this as a new version. This SHOULD definitively fix the idle problem, since that was related to the old RPCProtocol.

i tested it and it resulted in constant disconnects from btcguild (all servers). I reverted back to r110 and the problem disappeared.

+1

I was mining for 2 days straight with constant disconnects from btcguild (all servers) and bitcoins.lc for about 10-15% rejected. There were no disconnects from slush's pool though.

Reverted to revision r110 and now all is good with btcguild and bitcoins.lc.
80  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: [MINER] Phoenix - New efficient, fast, modular miner **BFI_INT support!** on: August 02, 2011, 09:31:41 PM
Perhaps a stupid question, but where can I get the r110 version? When I go to the SVN it shows r112
I am getting a whole lot of idles and restarts on btcguild with the newest version.

svn checkout -r 110 http://svn3.xp-dev.com/svn/phoenix-miner/trunk
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