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761  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What Bitcoin Could Learn From Gnutella (or, why devs need a spanking) on: March 13, 2013, 02:21:45 AM
The source code is the best specification. No documentation written in human language be complete and unanimous enough to be sure that everything is covered. You cannot compile Hemingway writings into executable code.

Bitcoin with connectivity difficulties would have problems with different Bitcoin clients, but will happily create disconnected network and all sorts of other nasty things.

Bitcoin have much more at stake than Gnutella warez download.

Source code which contains unknown cases isn't acceptable for system (to be) used as medium of exchange. Bitcoin does have much much more at stake than some filesharing network, which is why there should be spec to follow.

For something that my life depend on, I want certainty that it's well understood and tested.
762  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What Bitcoin Could Learn From Gnutella (or, why devs need a spanking) on: March 13, 2013, 02:09:56 AM
The problem wasn't the lack of a specification.  The problem was the new version met the specification and the old version had an unknown bug that limited it to a subset of the specification.  When the new version exercised this previously unused area of the specification space, it triggered the bug in the old version.

What I find somewhat disturbing that there is no real specification to adhere to. Just on reference implementation, which isn't obviously fully understood...
763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Jokes on: March 13, 2013, 01:34:09 AM


Knock knock

Who's there

Punchline is in different fork!
764  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's bad very bad. on: March 13, 2013, 12:32:00 AM
I do wonder how well implementation is specified and tested. Not that I have anything invested in BTC now...

This kind of "feature" doesn't go well for trust to protocol implementation, even if it is well handled. How well will protocol scale? And is there other unknown issues with current implementations?
765  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So what happened? on: March 12, 2013, 11:57:07 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152282.msg1617990#msg1617990

Best explanation I have found for non developer.

This might be wrong, but my understanding is that the some pre-0.8 clients database implementation couldn't handle large number of transactions from multiple addresses. So some clients can't handle blocks where there is transactions coming from very many addresses.
766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Understanding why the call to rollback to v0.7 was made. on: March 12, 2013, 11:38:36 PM
This was an undocumented issue with v0.7 ("bug").

And the term v0.7 is being misused here.  It really is a pre v0.8 bug, right?  i.e., it has existed since day one ... a configuration setting for BDB that has been that way since v0.3 at least, if I read correctly.

Since when was this bug in software? So how long did the testnet have time to discover it?

See above.  It was a scenario (a transaction requiring 10,000 locks, or about 5,000 inputs) that hadn't been tested (again, from what conversations I've seen on it).

Thanks.

Still, if it is that old I wonder how well scenarios with really large scale user base and amount of daily transactions is tested. As some people prophecises about global use. But wouldn't such day also mean millions to billions users and thus very large amount transactions per block... I have to look into this myself when I have time...
767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Understanding why the call to rollback to v0.7 was made. on: March 12, 2013, 10:47:23 PM
Since when was this bug in software? So how long did the testnet have time to discover it?
768  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: March 04, 2013, 10:47:30 AM
What happens to bets under the min? The information on it is bit lacking on site...
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: March 03, 2013, 04:51:14 PM
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770  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do China products has poor quality? on: January 25, 2012, 02:58:25 PM
Just wonderin if china porcelains are of great quality.

Research+pay about same as from western... Grin No I don't realy know...
771  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An American Horror Story on: January 24, 2012, 12:32:49 PM
I was really hoping that after the underwear bomber we would all have to remove our pants, but, alas, technology killed that dream.

So let's wait for internal cavity bomber Grin That would make security checks intresting...
772  Other / Off-topic / Re: ...and one bent tuba. on: January 23, 2012, 10:38:33 AM
nineteen bitcoin miners, 18% total interest on principal for 60D multi-pay Bitcoin loans, Seventeen newly hatched Sea-Monkeys performing swan dives into a toilet bowl, sixteen farting fairies, fifteen Aztec poets, fourteen days of Christmas, thirteen floors of terror, 12-pack of Pepsi, Eleven 7-11's, ten gram chee-burger, nine blown circuit breakers, eight buckets of gone-bad-blubber, seven fathoms of water, six 5770 GPU's, five double cheeseburgers, 4.5-billion-year-old-planet, 3.14159265 BTC registered in the Blockchain, two curious alpacas and one bent tuba.
773  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do China products has poor quality? on: January 23, 2012, 10:20:44 AM
It is you get what you pay for. If I buy something for a few dollars I don't exept it to last very long. Part of the blame might fall on those who order and desing, some stuff just isn't made to last to increase sales...
774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Currency Collapse, Bitcoin As A Fallback on: September 09, 2011, 09:09:28 AM
Tinfoil is the best way of keeping government sponsored electromagnetic waves out of the brain. Just try and
take an MRI scan with one on, the nurse will go fucking nuts!

I prefer to enclose my whole house in a Faraday cage, that way I don't have to wear the hat all the time in the shower and sleeping.

So where you compute then? You know they can get to you with power, water and telecomm wires Grin

You transmit data in and out of the faraday cage with lasers.

But that means you allow in some electromagnetic radiation...
775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Currency Collapse, Bitcoin As A Fallback on: September 09, 2011, 08:11:48 AM
Tinfoil is the best way of keeping government sponsored electromagnetic waves out of the brain. Just try and
take an MRI scan with one on, the nurse will go fucking nuts!

I prefer to enclose my whole house in a Faraday cage, that way I don't have to wear the hat all the time in the shower and sleeping.

So where you compute then? You know they can get to you with power, water and telecomm wires Grin
776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Currency Collapse, Bitcoin As A Fallback on: September 09, 2011, 07:56:29 AM
Bitcoins might be one option, personaly if I had to I would go with Yuan...

Yuan is still fiat govenment paper.  In the end, paper money is only worth as much as the paper its written on, its intrinsic value is generally as fuel in wood-burning stoves or as decorative wallpaper.

Silver and gold on the other hand...

Bitcoins is always just bits on computers, it doesn't have any intrinsic value just the value which people barter in it.

Gold and silver, minimal intrinsic, any metal will do apart from a few special tasks. Gold is one strange one, it has some realvalue, but most of it is just imanigative.


Stock weapons and non-perishable goods, you can take the land latter.
777  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Currency Collapse, Bitcoin As A Fallback on: September 09, 2011, 07:21:57 AM
Hmm, thanks for idea I got some used tinfoil I don't need anymore, ah a hat...

Still, hyperinflation is only easy way for west to get out, not very easy, but much better than decades paying back the money.

Bitcoins might be one option, personaly if I had to I would go with Yuan...
778  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: September 09, 2011, 06:25:33 AM
It is cooperation. You and I can do that in today's society. Why do we need to allow businesses to do whatever they want to the environment if all you want is to be able to trade a watch for shoes?

If a business pollutes my land, I'll sue them for damages until they stop or go broke and are unable to continue.

But it's free market, they are free to do that damage, your option is to go war with them or just threathen them, but if they are more powerful than you what can you do?

Central authority would steal from you doesn't it? Steals your money so they can solve someones elseses problems, that's not free?
779  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Liberty Dollars held by collectors subject to seizure as contraband on: September 08, 2011, 09:08:07 PM
So does this kind of stuff happen in free countrys?
780  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: September 08, 2011, 09:02:15 PM

If I held a gun to your head because I want that watch you worked hard for would be illegal.

Just like holding a gun to my head or threatening prison time to me for not giving you my hard earned product (my taxes spent on you socialists with an entitlement disorder-  without my consent) should be illegal, but like most things the government and elites advocate is not illegal because they voted to make the illegal- legal.

What happens way in the future when there is absolutely no incentive to work and earn your way through life to survive ?

People stop working and relies on the state. They lose all their wealth and personal property because they can not aford to buy or upkeep it through the high taxes stolen from us.

Totalitarian Police State where everyone is forced into an occupation to work for the state and the greater good of humanity, because everyone is reliant upon the state.

Think about it.

Other option is that someone else holds gun and makes you work for them. Which is better state where you have marginal power to change it or state where you have none.
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