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1261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can we get the exact time of a payment first confirmation ? on: September 18, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Plz Can we get the exact time of a payment first confirmation ?


example: i need to know when a payments was confirmed .

like this payment : https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/d4ea8f52195e82c68e9ca3e21986db67b904fe01d1156b69e60e95394b0b6c9c

can you know when it was confirmed (exactly).

Thank you .

Yes.
When you click that link, on that page, its states to the left which block it was included in.
That block would be your first confirmation.
If you find out what time that block was "found and received", then you would know the time of your first confirmation.

According to that site: 2015-09-18 01:37:30. now you need to figure out their time zone in relation to yours.
I do not know what timezone Blockchain.info is using.

Eh, OP is asking for the exact time when the transaction was first confirmed. Blockchain.info would only give you a rough estimate of when it was included in a block (2015-09-18 01:37:30 + 5 minutes, see the + 5 minutes in it for margin of error). Oh, and blockchain.info uses UTC.

There is no way to know when it was "exactly".
All miners are using different time stamps when they report their found block.
The only way to know the "exact/actual/factual" time is probably to be the miner that found it.

The time that blockchain.info shows is what the miner reported the time to be. (whether exact or not).

Also, i think when Blockchain.info says (+5) after the time,
it is actually saying that that tx was confirmed in that block, 5 minutes, after being relayed.
Meaning, it took five minutes for the tx to get 1 confirmation.

1262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can we get the exact time of a payment first confirmation ? on: September 18, 2015, 05:29:56 PM
Plz Can we get the exact time of a payment first confirmation ?


example: i need to know when a payments was confirmed .

like this payment : https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/d4ea8f52195e82c68e9ca3e21986db67b904fe01d1156b69e60e95394b0b6c9c

can you know when it was confirmed (exactly).

Thank you .

Yes.
When you click that link, on that page, its states to the left which block it was included in.
That block would be your first confirmation.
If you find out what time that block was "found and received", then you would know the time of your first confirmation.

According to that site: 2015-09-18 01:37:30. now you need to figure out their time zone in relation to yours.
I do not know what timezone Blockchain.info is using.
1263  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 40000 satoshi fee and Transaction not found !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 17, 2015, 07:16:46 PM
I am really saddened by the fact that so many people waste their times with faucets still. You're way better off joining a signature campaign, your manager is not likely cause those high fees to happen to you since they pay out way more at once.
Well it seems to me that OP is still a beginner/noob to Bitcoin/bitcoin,
so it is understandable that he uses faucets.

Now if you are a Hero/Legendary Member,
and your upset about your faucet payouts/fee, maybe then its a problem.  Tongue
1264  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 40000 satoshi fee and Transaction not found !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 17, 2015, 07:07:51 PM
i wait ?
Lol. yes.
But even though you paid a good fee, it may take 2-3 blocks since the mempool has around 15k txs pending.
60,000 in the uncensored mempool, another example of how blockchain.info is manipulating data http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/transactions
Wow!
I was using tradeblock.com, thought they weren't dropping txs, guess they are now.
Blockchain.info is currently saying 9500 tx.
1265  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 40000 satoshi fee and Transaction not found !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 17, 2015, 07:03:08 PM
i wait ?

Lol. yes.
But even though you paid a good fee, it may take 2-3 blocks since the mempool has around 15k txs pending.
1266  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 40000 satoshi fee and Transaction not found !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 17, 2015, 06:51:23 PM
What are you talking about? Firstly this thread is completely in the wrong section. I would ask you to give us the following:
1) Name of wallet that you're using
2) Your address
3) TX ID

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/8f47d7797a5ed707b4fd9950895052087a557b6baff45f0de76ac616ccbaff9b

It is here. When in doubt, check another blockexplorer.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/8f47d7797a5ed707b4fd9950895052087a557b6baff45f0de76ac616ccbaff9b
1267  Other / Archival / Re: [WTS] ANACS Graded Casascius Silver Gold Coins on: September 16, 2015, 11:05:19 PM
I'm Mr Meeseeks, look at me! I'm still eyeballing that MS-69 1.0 BTC Coin. *Stares and rubs chin slowly*
1268  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Mining Game on: September 16, 2015, 08:09:18 PM
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You don't need to care about my Trust value, you can trust me.
...

That is my favorite line right there.

BTW: You would need to figure out a way to create revenue for yourself, maybe ads, otherwise you'll be broke within hours.
1269  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where is my payment? on: September 15, 2015, 11:28:59 PM
Simple answer: It is most probable that Cloudmining.website paid too little of a fee.
1270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we quit pretending people are Satoshi? on: September 15, 2015, 10:00:14 PM
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I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley

I would also like to point out, that many people on this forum also think Dorian Nakamoto really is Satoshi, as well.
So it doesn't really matter in the long run. Satoshi has fallen into shadow.
1271  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what is the fee to send ? -_- on: September 15, 2015, 09:31:03 PM
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..

Quite sad the more I think of it... I just can't see (unless you get like a thousand referrals) how a faucet can ever be profitable in any way.

They are not meant to be profitable, they are meant to give very new users or potential new users an entrance into the Bitcoin/bitcoin world.
If they were meant to be profitable, then I'm sure miner's would rather enter captchas all day, compared to mining and not get a block all day.

Why is such a large amount of people on these boards than complaining when they have to pay a tx fee on their earnings or that they lost a weeks worth of faucets in a bad investment? I think it is more than that to a lot of people.

Yes, that is true. But eventually in time (since the faucet has brought them in and taught them very basics of the Bitcoin/bitcoin system),
eventually they will be comfortable enough to buy actual worthwhile amounts and eventually be a regular user like us.
Then they will get mad when they lose a whole btc to a bad investment.  Tongue

I believe faucets allow non-users to safely understand our system, without needed to "go all in", yet.
If they like Bitcoin/bitcoin, their frustration will lead them to attaining significant amounts, eventually.
1272  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what is the fee to send ? -_- on: September 15, 2015, 09:23:55 PM
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..

Quite sad the more I think of it... I just can't see (unless you get like a thousand referrals) how a faucet can ever be profitable in any way.

They are not meant to be profitable, they are meant to give very new users or potential new users an entrance into the Bitcoin/bitcoin world.
If they were meant to be profitable, then I'm sure miner's would rather enter captchas all day, compared to mining and not get a block all day.
1273  Other / Meta / Re: IAMA account farmer. AMA on: September 14, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=261027 Suggests I am an account farmer. #1, no idea what that is. #2, probably not an account farmer as I have 1 account on here.  #3, he read my old post and suggested that I was farming accounts because he MISREAD that I stated I have a few reddit accounts. #4, this place is just as shitty as r/bitcoin clearly he is a. theymos or b. riding theymos c. I won't be back to this shit ass forum. It's ironic to wreck peoples trust for literally 0 reasoning behind it.  e. - Try to give that account negative feedback, it is somehow weirdly impossible because it is an invalid url.

This post should be in the Meta Section.

But to the point of your post,
Have you contacted him and asked him to remove or modify it to neutral trust, due to a misunderstanding?
1274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Petition to pass the Bitcoin Alert Keys to Andreas M. Antonopoulos (w/POLL) on: September 12, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.
This makes no sense. No one's Alert Key should be "taken away" unless they willfully abuse it or improperly use it.
He doesn't have one yet. The poll is for whether he should get one. Nothing is being taken away.

I read Gleb Gamow's statement above to say something to the effect of:
Take these people out of the Alert Key code in the protocol and add a new one for Antonopoulos.

I understood it from this line: "to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held".
But maybe Gleb meant "to have like".

Edit: Just as a concept, in relation to Mickeyb's comment above me, maybe there should be a Tier 2 Alert Key system added.
It has limited capability, but in times of emergency can send a message.
Maybe allow five Tier 2 Alert keys. Give Antonopoulos one of those. But this is just my noobish opinion.
1275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Petition to pass the Bitcoin Alert Keys to Andreas M. Antonopoulos (w/POLL) on: September 12, 2015, 09:09:08 PM
Please vote if you desire or not for Andreas M. Antonopoulos to have the Bitcoin Alert Keys currently being held by Satoshi, Gavin Andresen, and theymos.

This makes no sense. No one's Alert Key should be "taken away" unless they willfully abuse it or improperly use it.
1276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Today, Mark Karpeles learns how to spell "EMBEZZLEMENT" on: September 11, 2015, 10:01:52 PM
He pumped Bitcoin to $1000+ by doing fake trades and bitcoiners still hate him? Weird people...
Well... almost all Mt.Gox users never got their btc or fiat out. Some btc users were entirely wiped out.
When things like that happen in the "real" world, people usually jump off buildings.
1277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinwallet attack is causing backlog in the network and blockchain...hurting BTC on: September 10, 2015, 08:12:48 PM
More than 9000+, that is just what Blockchain.info is reporting.



The backlog, according to tradeblock.com:
85,687 pending tx
155.75MB mempool size

For the record, during the last spam tests/attack, btc prices when up.
1278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: sent money to my Mycelium wallet now transaction failed Bitcoins lost???? on: September 10, 2015, 07:46:50 PM
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But it is more likely that your problem arises from the "stress test", and not from unconfirmed inputs.

Hm according to this site:
https://bitcoinfees.github.io/#1m

nothing to dramatic is going on. But of course i don't know what bitstamp pays for a tx. Wit btc-e yesterday it was a charme. Btc-e takes 0.001BTC fee for tx, but of course i don't know what their policy is on how much to spend on tx.

If you have transactions from bitstamp from the past, you can look at it with a block explorer and see what they place as a fee.
I have never used bitstamp nor know what fee they usually pay, so I have no answer.

I assume they did 0.0001 and it was just rejected.
According to this site : http://www.cointape.com/#delay
You should pay around 0.0004+ for a fee, currently.
1279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: sent money to my Mycelium wallet now transaction failed Bitcoins lost???? on: September 10, 2015, 07:32:28 PM
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I now read that coinwallet created one Address with 0.51 btc in it, that consists of 50.000 dust transactions with the size of 7MB. In Bitcoin my Bitcoins are tx outputs from before. Lets say i get this 0.51BTC to my wallet of 10BTC does that mean that the next time i spent e.g. 0.7 btc the size of my tx will be 7MB and wait forever to be confirmed?. So no matter where those BTCtravel the will always have this 7 MB"weight" they carry around? Or does this only hold true till the "dustcoins" have 1 confirmation - i ask this because the second quote sounds like it does matter even if confirmed.

First of all that is a complex question, that I'm sure DannyHamilton or some other expert can answer properly.
The short answer for you is that it is highly unlikely you will be able to move the 0.51 btc since the data size is too large.
You would in theory need to spend almost the whole amount on a miner fee just to move it. (Probably 0.5 btc.)
Remember that your miner fee is really based upon the size of the total tx you wish to make.

**Edit: Forgot to add. When you finally move and get a confirm on those coins, you will not longer "carry" the 7mb.
That only applies to that transaction. Not all future transactions. But that 7mb is now part of the blockchain forever.
When people download the "blockchain" for wallets like Bitcoin Core, they will "carry" the 7mb in the file size.


Another thing i thought yesterday about. What kind of fees do the exchanges - lets say bitstamp and btc-e - pay for a tx? Just the minimum? Would they send it for 0 if it qualified? I bothered me that i could not set the fee myself. With more and more blocks getting fuller this wil become more and more important...

They would pay the minimum as the standard. I have never heard of any exchange paying a 0 fee.
Yes, this will be more of a problem as time goes on, but exchanges and wallets are currently upgrading
to give users ability to set the fee themselves or is self adjusting based on current mempool size.
1280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: sent money to my Mycelium wallet now transaction failed Bitcoins lost???? on: September 10, 2015, 07:04:42 PM
I did never send any of those to my bitstamp account. Till today i did not even know what that is, not think about having those. So can you explain how to make your coins so toxic, that they poison others. The audience is frightend and captured by your words  Smiley

DannyHamilton has answered the question.
The problem really arises from unconfirmed spam inputs, not that they are spam inputs in general.
(I misunderstood turtlehurricane)

You do not need to "send those coins to your account".
The exchange, i assume, withdrawals coins from an exchange address, which contains many users "deposits".
When you request a withdrawal, your coins come from many other coins.
Since someone may have entered the unconfirmed spam input into that exchange address, it could cause problems.
Thus, it can effect everyone who requests a withdrawal, in theory.

But it is more likely that your problem arises from the "stress test", and not from unconfirmed inputs.

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