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1221  Other / Off-topic / Re: I Am Very Very Scared on: November 02, 2015, 07:24:07 PM
Your statement applies to all websites that are merchants/exchanges/banks/medical/government websites that have nothing to do with bitcoin.
It is likely all your information is already on the darknet if you have ever filled out any online form with your personal information.

Bitcoin is one of many currencies used on the darknet. Your personal info is already there from non-bitcoin related activities.
1222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Riddle me this? on: October 30, 2015, 10:11:32 PM
Here is a riddle to answer your riddle:
When you bought your bitcoin, did you buy it thinking it was a currency or it was an asset?

Depending on your answer, determines how you view and will use it.

At one time in history, gold was the only currency, but today it is an asset.
Only time will tell how bitcoin will ultimately be used.



1223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EFF and CISA - Impact on Bitcoin? on: October 29, 2015, 12:07:02 AM
In what ways can this affect BTC?

"CISA passed the Senate today in a 74-21 vote. The bill is fundamentally flawed due to its broad immunity clauses, vague definitions, and aggressive spying authorities. The bill now moves to a conference committee despite its inability to address problems that caused recent highly publicized computer data breaches, like unencrypted files, poor computer architecture, un-updated servers, and employees (or contractors) clicking malware links."

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/eff-disappointed-cisa-passes-senate

Can anyone put this on layman terms? I hate all this bureaucracy terminology, im not a lawyer..
I've heard recently that they were working in a way to know how many Bitcoins everyone has. I think this is pointless, since there is no way to know, but apparently they are working hard on ways to inspect the blockchain at will. We need more anonymity.

Very basically, the US government can tell a company to hand over customer data without a warrant, subpoena, or other,
and that company must comply to that request. In addition, the company can not tell the customer that this has been requested and handed over.

In relation to bitcoin, it could be argued that a company like blockchain.info, bitpay, circle, gemini, coinbase, etc, etc,
can now hand over users data/information without the need for a legal order to do so.
Thus, the gov would "know how many bitcoins you have".
1224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So... what really happened to Satoshi? Who was this person? on: October 27, 2015, 05:07:41 PM
Satoshi clearly stated on the Cryptography Mailing List in 2008 that :

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
Theorizing that one could time travel within my own lifetime, I stepped into the quantum leap accelerator and vanished. I awoke to find myself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not my own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. My only guide on this journey is Al, an observer from my own time, who appears in the form of a hologram that only I can see and hear. And so, I find myself leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that my next leap will be the leap home.

Source? link?

Satoshi clearly stated on the Cryptography Mailing List in 2008 that :

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
Theorizing that one could time travel within my own lifetime, I stepped into the quantum leap accelerator and vanished. I awoke to find myself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not my own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. My only guide on this journey is Al, an observer from my own time, who appears in the form of a hologram that only I can see and hear. And so, I find myself leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that my next leap will be the leap home.

That's is really kind of insane and arrogant all at the same time, was Satoshi always this arrogant when talking about himself/herself/themself?  Maybe "it" left because he was too far up his own ass, I mean he had a reason, I guess... a lot smarter than I would ever be... but still that just sounds all like a bunch of rubbish.

I am quite shocked you guys took me at face value.
I was hoping people would put it together and get a few lols, but alas.....
Here is my source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjK9GJMBpt0
1225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So... what really happened to Satoshi? Who was this person? on: October 27, 2015, 03:41:32 AM
He said he left the project for a new project. ...
...

Satoshi clearly stated on the Cryptography Mailing List in 2008 that :

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
Theorizing that one could time travel within my own lifetime, I stepped into the quantum leap accelerator and vanished. I awoke to find myself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not my own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. My only guide on this journey is Al, an observer from my own time, who appears in the form of a hologram that only I can see and hear. And so, I find myself leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that my next leap will be the leap home.
1226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's the point of Circle, Bitpay and so on? on: October 26, 2015, 04:46:31 PM
As far as I know, Bitcoin is supposed to be about ease of use, p2p money, fast, uncompromised, decentralized. What's the point of "payment processors" or whatever those services are called, when to use Bitcoin, all you need is to download a wallet, create any addresses you like, and start receiving payment for your work/pay others for their work? (or donating, or whatever you want to do with your money) without needing to give any personal details, and without the permission of anyone.

What the hell is really "Bitpay" and why is that a market?

Those payment processors are basically there to make selling bitcoin (or buying), into your currency, easier for small/large businesses.
It allows businesses the ability to convert their btc faster than waiting for someone to come to their store and say,
"I see you sell rare books, do you also happen to have some btc for sale?". Most businesses still need to pay bills or employees in regulated currencies.

Bitpay for example, is about converting your "pay check" into bitcoin, I think with direct deposit into bitpay banks accts.

1227  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Might Sounds Strange: Bitcoin Violates the Principle of Money Fungibility on: October 20, 2015, 10:52:18 PM
...
the funny part about buying freshly mined coins for a premium is the same as buying a new car..
.. as soon as it transfers ownership to you, its no longer new and fresh and automatically loses value straight away.
...
That is a great comparison and may be the proper perspective.
Nonetheless, it will be interesting to see how this market turns out in the far future.
1228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The blocksize issue: how about time limits? on: October 20, 2015, 10:40:03 PM
There are still dark shadows over BTC because of the current small size of blocks. I wonder if it could be possible to remove all size limit, and have time limits instead. There shall be a minimum time, and a maximum execution time, to make a block. Then blocksize would rise with computing power.

I'm sure it can be done, but I wonder if would be smart. Open to all comments.

I am no Bitcoin expert,
but creating a minimum time limit (for example 5 mins) and a max (for example 2 hours),
do not (I believe) have any effect on the blocksize debate.

The issue is not whether blocks are too slow or too fast, but is how much data (or max data amount) should each block have.
Even if there was an increase in how much a block can hold, there would still be a limit, so blocks do not get hammered to multi-gig sizes.

But I may not really understand what you are trying to say.
1229  Other / Meta / Re: Supicious users on: October 20, 2015, 09:50:02 PM
I don't care about his/her farming of accounts, my inquiry is about those consecutive posts made on a single thread by only one person(probably). I think it is some sort of spamming but I want someone to confirm it Smiley

It is highly probable that they are all related and also highly probable by the text used, are automated bots talking nonsense.
1230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can anyone explain this to me? Is this a double spend or wtf? on: October 20, 2015, 09:43:30 PM
-snip-
0.24999772 BTC went to some random address that I don't know of.
-snip-
WTF is this shit? Did I just get robbed or what? Shocked

Thats your change. You used a 1 BTC bill to pay 0.75 BTC to your friend and 228 Satoshi to the miners. Your change is thus 1-0.75-0.00000228 = 0.24999772 BTC

You can see the address is part of your wallet if you enable coin control (Settings -> Options -> Wallet) and go to Send -> Inputs -> List mode

Weird, I never knew about this.

Thanks for explaining it to me.

But why would the TX fee have changed?

I've never touched it? I've done hundreds of transactions without anything like this ever happening.......

Times change. Try using .0005 fee for all transactions.

Times change?

Uhhhhh, i've never touched the TX fee and I send and receive transactions on a daily basis.

Did the times JUST change? As in within' the last 12 hours?

I mean wtf?

I am no expert, nor have used Bitcoin Core. But to attempt to answer your question:
But it is possible that a change was made to the tx fee part of the protocol between two different versions of Bitcoin Core.
Have you downloaded a new version?
1231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can anyone explain this to me? Is this a double spend or wtf? on: October 20, 2015, 09:04:32 PM
Sent .75 BTC to a friend.

Goes unconfirmed for over an hour now.

I look at the transaction on the blockchain.

Says I sent 0.99999772 BTC in total.

0.24999772 BTC went to some random address that I don't know of.

the actual amount I sent 0.75 BTC went to the correct address.

But the transaction is unconfirmed. My bitcoin core client froze for a second after I hit the send button.

Here is the transaction ID - https://blockchain.info/tx/63a3c27e00772dfa54c0fb4d2e1917c7bbf1866493790939dabb26cf5ae6d32e

WTF is this shit? Did I just get robbed or what? Shocked

Yes, as said above, the fee was too little.
In addition, what wallet are you using? Your 0.25 remaining btc is most likely in a "change address", that you control.
Some wallets move your coins to a new address after a portion of it is sent somewhere else.
1232  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Might Sounds Strange: Bitcoin Violates the Principle of Money Fungibility on: October 20, 2015, 08:56:18 PM
If the time comes that certain coins are considered permanently clean and others permanently dirty in a future regulated world system,
the community as a whole should purposefully contaminate all clean coins found on the blockchain.

And what incentive does anyone have in doing that? Should we use the Bitcoin Honor System(TM) and hope people are willing to devalue their clean money?

I have a better idea. Fungibility.

I meant that other bitcoin users, who have "dirty coins" should send some to "clean addresses".
There is no way of exchanges and banks to know whether the coins that are moved forward from that address contain the "dirty coins".
And so, all coins within that addresses would be outright considered "dirty".
If all addresses are "dirtied" than there is no fungibility problem. All coins become dirty.

Well machines can sift through a lot more data than "is at any point...?" so this argument would still stand against coins that was dirty before "the great Bitcoin mudfight" to make all coins dirty.

There's also the added problems that more new clean coins are made every 9.9~ minutes on average. And if you add a few satoshis to new or old clean coins, it doesn't really make them dirtied.

Its not hard to have the clean/unclean system ignore "dirtying" of less than x.

You would need to actually mix all the coins with all the coins. Doesn't sound doable.

...

I do not understand.

Lets say you have an address with one "clean bitcoin", call it "1cBTC".
Now I send 5000 "dirty" satoshis into that address. That address has now been contaminated.
So, in turn, with coin control, you move your "1cBTC" to a new address and leave the 5000 satoshis behind.

Now, you decide to move your "1cBTC" to Coinbase. Does Coinbase know that the 5000 satoshis left behind are the true dirty through the protocol?
I do not believe so. They would have to take your word on it that you left the true dirty behind.
They do not know if you moved proper inputs and could not actually trust you. So, they would deem you too risky and now dirty.

If you contaminate a single address once, other companies, banks, or other, do not know if you are truly dirty or clean anymore.
1233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Might Sounds Strange: Bitcoin Violates the Principle of Money Fungibility on: October 20, 2015, 08:43:02 PM
If the time comes that certain coins are considered permanently clean and others permanently dirty in a future regulated world system,
the community as a whole should purposefully contaminate all clean coins found on the blockchain.

And what incentive does anyone have in doing that? Should we use the Bitcoin Honor System(TM) and hope people are willing to devalue their clean money?

I have a better idea. Fungibility.

I meant that other bitcoin users, who have "dirty coins" should send some to "clean addresses".

There is no way for exchanges and banks to know whether the coins that are moved forward from that (clean) address contain the "dirty coins".
And so, all coins within that addresses would be outright considered "dirty".

If all addresses are "dirtied" then there is no fungibility problem. All coins become dirty.

If all coins are dirtied, there can be no "dirty coin" blacklisting on the Bitcoin blockchain.
1234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Might Sounds Strange: Bitcoin Violates the Principle of Money Fungibility on: October 20, 2015, 07:10:45 PM
The thing is... the fungibility of Bitcoin is hardly a thing you can criticize. Privacy issues? Sure, go right ahead but a careful analysis of the fungibility FUD shows that the arguments simply do not hold up. That is because most of them are looking at Bitcoin from behind fiat lenses which is the definition of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.  

Which argument doesn't hold up? The fact that the units aren't interchangeable? Hmm let's see:

So far we have:
- Exchanges refusing previously stolen coins
- Wallet services banning customers who use gambling sites
- Miners selling freshly minted coins at a premium

I don't know about you, but to me it's starting to seem like the units aren't interchangeable.

If the time comes that certain coins are considered permanently clean and others permanently dirty in a future regulated world system,
the community as a whole should purposefully contaminate all clean coins found on the blockchain.

Dirty coins can be purchased at a discount, at that time, and we will send them to the clean address accounts.
The coins have now been co-mingled with a "dirty batch" and when the user sends his "clean coins" out from the "dirty",
the exchanges and banks will claim they are still dirty. There is no way to prove the user didn't add the dirty coins himself.

Thus, all talks about clean versus dirty is worthless in the long run. IMO.

Edit: This should probably be done before a system is devised to keep "clean coins" isolated from the dirty.
Best to do this on a rolling basis every year till end of mining. Also contaminate all exchange's cold storage addresses and etc.
1235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Bitcoin was a worst decision of my life on: October 19, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
Bitcoin is zero-sum; for every winner, there's a loser. Bitcoin  needs suckers like you. Thank you for supporting Bitcoin.


Interesting view point from a high ranking account.

Here are some more associations to ponder:

Sports is zero-sum; for every winner, there's a loser. Sports needs suckers like you. Thank you for supporting Sports.
Investing is zero-sum; for every winner, there's a loser. Investing needs suckers like you. Thank you for supporting Investments.
Evolution is zero-sum; for every winner, there's a loser. Evolution needs suckers like you. Thank you for supporting Evolution.
1236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Might Sounds Strange: Bitcoin Violates the Principle of Money Fungibility on: October 19, 2015, 02:07:01 AM
Click Here to Watch

Travis Patron argues that bitcoin violates the principles of money fungibility - that each individual unit of currency being of the same value does not hold true in bitcoin.

Already, businesses are springing up that are selling bitcoin with no previous transaction fee at a premium. This violates the principle of money fungibility.
...

When mining has ended, at some point, all active bitcoins will no longer be closely linked to their generation block.
So, in the future, the argument that some coins are better than others will no longer exist.

People paying a premium now for "clean" coins are perpetuating that false premise and helping those who wish to criminalize Bitcoin/bitcoin.
1237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this the next big run-up in price? on: October 16, 2015, 04:37:55 PM
My personal opinion based on nothing, it will rise to around 280 USD,
float around there until December, where it will return to around 240 USD for the holidays.

Of course, if the rise is correlated to the winklevoss exchange (Gemini) actually getting wall street money,
it may go much higher and be totally unpredictable. This may be just a run up before the holidays tho.
1238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The more you know... on: October 13, 2015, 05:14:35 PM
Interesting way to present the data.
Kind of funny when you look at it (btc) this way.


1239  Economy / Exchanges / Anyone else having Polonex Connection Issues? on: October 07, 2015, 03:21:00 AM
As the subject states: "Anyone else having Polonex Connection Issues?"

Code:
Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to poloniex.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
(Error code: sec_error_ocsp_old_response)

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

Here is the link: https://poloniex.com

Surprisingly, this is happening with two other bitcoin related websites currently as well.
1240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Hi all, newbie here on: October 06, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
Alt trading is a fickle bitch, always do your own research.   Avoid coins with shitty volume cause you may not be able to sell whatever you buy.

Don't waste your time, this is a troll. Look at his name.
I'm pretty sure this person doesn't really care about the answers.
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