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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Request For Help From P&S Regulars/P&S Meta Thread on: November 03, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Since the mods love to delete my posts that I spend 15-30 minutes researching and typing... I'm done here

I can't believe they let the trolls on this forum like BADecker, Spendulus, TECHSHARE, CoinCube, B1tUnl0ck3r, etc., post whatever the fuck they want... little 1-liner insults... multi-posting... off-topic nonsense all the time

But, if I post information to debunk their bullshit... my posts get deleted... fuck this, I'm out

Enjoy your trolls
2  Other / Politics & Society / Ken Hamm is Brainwashing Children on: November 02, 2018, 01:25:02 PM
You have any actual understanding of the border, have you ever walked along part of it? Been in one of those hospitals we are talking about?

LMAO... you sound like Ken Hamm attempting to refute evolution... "Were you there?!?"

Ken Ham brainwashes children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLeQkuTGSOs

It's quite sad to see this level of brainwashing done to children... quite sad indeed

People use diversionary tactics like this when they have no valid facts or evidence... they attack the character of others instead of refuting that person's point/argument
3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In search of Fascism on: November 02, 2018, 11:59:38 AM
You are a bit slow, aren't you?

For your utopia to work your system has to have no leader, otherwise your utopia is flawed as at least one has more rights than the other...

Insults will get you nowhere... anyone reading it will lose confidence in you if begin your post with an Ad-Hominem attack

Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

Who said anything about utopia?

Stop attacking a Straw-Man... that's an obvious logical fallacy buddy... do some research man

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man."

The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.

This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged emotional issues where a fiery "battle" and the defeat of an "enemy" may be more valued than critical thinking or an understanding of both sides of the issue.
4  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: November 02, 2018, 11:53:59 AM
Actually that's because as soon as shit hits the fan, left wing (which means nothing) will start to claim that is right wing (which means also nothing).
Left wing doesn't see Kim Jong-un as left, nor Maduro.

Kim Jong-Un isn't left... he is a totalitarian dictator (fascist)... as far right as the spectrum goes...

The reason authoritarianism is on the right is because republicans are authoritarian, democrats want democracy where the majority opinion is what matters... republicans prefer the whim of some ruler over the majority opinion of the populace

I also put Trump in the same category as Kim Jong-Un... Trump wants to rule by decree (i.e. dictating laws)... Trump has no interest in what the majority of people of his country want... Trump worships Kim Jong-Un because he is a dictator, and Trump wants to be just like him
5  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 02, 2018, 11:30:06 AM
All of that is wrong because when applied to God, prove the existence of an even higher being, the creator of God, which would be proof that not even god is God.  

Also known as The Problem of the Creator of God

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The problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, presuming God exists. A common challenge to theistic propositions of a creator deity as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?". It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the universe must have the same restrictions. This, in turn, may lead to a problem of infinite regress wherein each newly presumed creator of a creator is itself presumed to have its own creator.
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Cryptocurrency fulfilling the prophecy from Revelation? on: November 02, 2018, 11:25:00 AM
my church said credit cards were this prophecy from revelations
This is what I've heard too.

When credit cards came my parents told me that this has been the fulfillment of that verse. However, technology keeps on innovating day by day and the one that I believed was the microchip implanted to the wrist or forehead.

With crypto's today, it's not yet widely accepted so I doubt it.

For the mark of the beast, there's one idea that I've heard before that it was going to be another religion.

I can't imagine people implanting a chip into their forehead to spend money... that's just ridiculous

Also, the "number of the beast" (666/616) is a clear reference to Nero Caesar... they used 2 different numbers, one for the Jews and one for the Gentiles because they spelled his name slightly differently (Nero Caesar vs Neron Caesar = 616 vs 666)

So... if the "number of the beast" refers to Nero Caesar... I assume the "mark of the beast" also refers to Nero Caesar, since he is "the beast"... so, this is 2000 year old history, not a prediction of events in the 21st century
7  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion is a virus on: November 02, 2018, 11:08:36 AM
Viruses of the Mind
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viruses_of_the_Mind

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"Viruses of the Mind" is an essay by British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, first published in the book Dennett and His Critics: Demystifying Mind (1993). Dawkins originally wrote the essay in 1991 and delivered it as a Voltaire Lecture on 6 November 1992 at the Conway Hall Humanist Centre. The essay discusses how religion can be viewed as a meme, an idea previously expressed by Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976). Dawkins analyzes the propagation of religious ideas and behaviors as a memetic virus, analogous to how biological and computer viruses spread.

Dawkins defines the "symptoms" of being infected by the "virus of religion", providing examples for most of them, and tries to define a connection between the elements of religion and its survival value (invoking Zahavi's handicap principle of sexual selection, applied to believers of a religion). Dawkins also describes religious beliefs as "mind-parasites", and as "gangs [that] will come to constitute a package, which may be sufficiently stable to deserve a collective name such as Roman Catholicism ... or ... component parts to a single virus".

Dawkins suggests that religious belief in the "faith-sufferer" typically shows the following elements:

    It is impelled by some deep, inner conviction that something is true, or right, or virtuous: a conviction that doesn't seem to owe anything to evidence or reason, but which, nevertheless, the believer feels as totally compelling and convincing.
    The believer typically makes a positive virtue of faith's being strong and unshakable, despite it not being based upon evidence.
    There is a conviction that "mystery", per se, is a good thing; the belief that it is not a virtue to solve mysteries but to enjoy them and revel in their insolubility.
    There may be intolerant behaviour towards perceived rival faiths, in extreme cases even the killing of opponents or advocating of their deaths. Believers may be similarly violent in disposition towards apostates or heretics, even if those espouse only a slightly different version of the faith.
    The particular convictions that the believer holds, while having nothing to do with evidence, are likely to resemble those of the believer's parents.
    If the believer is one of the rare exceptions who follows a different religion from his parents, the explanation may be cultural transmission from a charismatic individual.
    The internal sensations of the 'faith-sufferer' may be reminiscent of those more ordinarily associated with sexual love.


Dawkins stresses his claim that religious beliefs do not spread as a result of evidence in their support, but typically by cultural transmission, in most cases from parents or from charismatic individuals. He refers to this as involving "epidemiology, not evidence". Further Dawkins distinguishes this process from the spread of scientific ideas, which, he suggests, is constrained by the requirement to conform with certain virtues of standard methodology: "testability, evidential support, precision, quantifiability, consistency, intersubjectivity, repeatability, universality, progressiveness, independence of cultural milieu, and so on". He points out that faith "spreads despite a total lack of every single one of these virtues".

Also like a virus, religion tends to infect children and elderly at a much higher rate than people who are in good health...  Religion is typically transmitted from parent to child, like many viruses... Religion demands large amounts or your money and time, similar to dealing with an illness... Religions contain instructions to "copy" the message, and infect others with it... so many similarities with a virus
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In search of Fascism on: November 02, 2018, 11:01:09 AM
Even if it's not, per definition, wrong for communism to have leaders, not even they're bad or good, it however means the end for your "egalitarian society" as that one is over the others.

So... you think communism means a society has to be 100% democratic, with no leader?  Because this is what you keep describing...  you are describing an absolute democracy not communism... then you try to call it fascism on top of being fully democratic with no leader (confusing as fuck when you don't understand what these words mean)

Then you want to accuse me of nonsense like "tu quoque"... I never made any such claim... you are the one who made a claim that communism isn't supposed to have a leader... I simply disagree with your bogus claim

Stop trolling with contradictory nonsense
9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In search of Fascism on: November 01, 2018, 06:13:35 PM
As long as you have a communist leader you've a "primum inter pares", one whose decisions count more than the others... Or none of your utopian communism if you will.

I'll assume you mean "primus inter pares", first among equals; the senior or representative member of a group

Are you trying to say that's its bad for communism to have someone in charge?  How is this any different from any other form of government?

I really don't even understand what you are trying to say here... communist leaders are bad, but it's ok for any other country to have a leader?
10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 01, 2018, 05:46:04 PM
There are 5 proofs of the existence of God. It is written by Aquinas. I give it below:

1. Proof through motion means that everything moving has ever been triggered by something else, which in turn was triggered by the third. It is God that is the root cause of the whole movement.

These are absolutely not proofs... proofs are applicable to mathematics... these are all debunked logical fallacies

This first one is debunked by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God

If you can't have something that moves without a creator, then who created God?  God moves, right?  Then who created the creator of the creator of God, ad infinitum?
11  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: November 01, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
I think what you are looking for is Buddism, less the supernatural BS.  Do not harm others, control your urges, etc.

I am more of an animalist myself.  I used to hunt, which I regret to this day.  When you kill a sentient being, part of you dies with it.

I always lived below my means, did not need to have the latest greatest toys, retired early, so I guess maybe I am a Buddist LOL.

What annoys me the most about religions is their supernatural claims and their moral standard or lack thereof.

I see Buddhism more as a self-improvement manual.  It teaches you how to explore the cause of 'suffering' (i.e. mental anguish, stress, fear, anger, etc) in order to take control of it and rise above all that nonsense... the woo-woo is optional

I'm not a fan of supernatural claims either.  I tend to gloss over the parts where people talk about gods, past lives, etc.  I don't believe in chi or any supernatural energy.  IMHO, a good Buddhist teacher doesn't even mention these things.

I'm a big fan of Alan Watts.  He is very theatrical, makes a great performance and speaks a language I grok.  There are plenty of other teachers if he doesn't strike your fancy.  Ajahn Brahm and Ajahn Chah are also good
12  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In search of Fascism on: November 01, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I think of Fascism more as the opposition of Liberalism (European Liberalism, not be confused with US flavor), rather than communism.

Good thing it doesn't matter what you "think" Fascism should mean... fascism has a definition, and it is not what you "think" it is

The only way to have communism as you portrait it is by direct democracy, otherwise as long as you've a communist leader, you no longer have any communism, but a red flavor of Fascism.

I don't understand how you can say an elected communist leader is fascist, but an elected republic/democratic leader is not... that makes no sense at all... you are assuming that an elected communist leader will become a dictator, but that couldn't happen with a 'democracy'?  Germany is a democracy and they gave us Hitler... Italy gave us Mussolini... these are not communist countries, quite the opposite

And again... fascism is NOT "red flavor" (assuming you meant red as in Russian/communist, not red as in right-wing/republican)... fascism is extreme right-wing, not left... quit trying to change the definition of words to suit your opinion/bigotry

13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In search of Fascism on: November 01, 2018, 03:27:52 PM
Trump, as well as Putin, is an elected body, this means the people voted them for be their representatives.

Hitler was elected, Mussolini was elected, Mao Zedong was elected... most fascist dictators are elected

Some of them rig the elections by murdering their opponent, throwing them in jail, banning them from being listed on the ballot, etc

Putin didn't win with 77% of the vote because people love him that much... he rigged the election
14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: November 01, 2018, 02:49:32 PM
Do you see how stupid the religious ideologies are?  Not only they teach you nonsense, but the moral code they espouse is abhorrent.

Have you checked out Buddhism?

As much as I abhor religion (and you know I do), I can't seem to find flaws with Buddhism... just saying

I am intrigued by the meditation and the inner reflection aspect of it.  I think I read in Sam Harris book that there are some monks that can dissociate their own ego from their mind and see the world in a completely different way.  

I have a hard time accepting the rebirth idea because I cannot prove that animals (humans) have a soul and I cannot prove that there is life after death.  It is all too supernatural to give it a serious consideration.

I think you have to put your secular glasses on when you read the Buddist doctrine as this ideology is not immune to violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

You have to cherry pick the good bits but the moral code is better than any of the Abrahamic religions.

Buddhism, quite simply, is a path to inner wisdom... dissociation with the ego is normal and expected... you can't see the truth when you blind yourself from it (ex. BADecker)

Reincarnation is a bit sketchy, and usually just used as an excuse similar to "god did it".  I'm fairly convinced this is used as a tool, not meant to be taken literally.  Buddhists say things like, "When you want to enter a house, you might pick up a brick to knock on the door, but you don't carry that brick into the house with you"... or "When you want to cross a river, you use a boat to get across, but you don't carry the boat with you once you get to the other side"... basically, once you get it, you get it, and don't need to use those tools anymore

There are no violent teaching of any kind in Buddhism... if a Buddhist is violent, it simply shows that he doesn't understand... people from any religion can be violent, particularly if they don't get it

I haven't had to cherry pick anything from Buddhism... I can't find much that I disagree with beyond perhaps Rebirth since there is no scientific evidence for it (though it does make a lot more sense than having 1 life to find the correct religion or whatever)
15  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: November 01, 2018, 02:27:48 PM
If you want to talk about left-wing terrorism vs right-wing terrorism... there is no contest... simply check wikipedia:

The wikipedia article for Left-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of a single paragraph ending with:

(...) After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.

The wikipedia article for Right-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of 5 paragraphs ending in a list of 38 items since 2003, mostly murders and mass murders:

See also: Domestic terrorism in the United States
(...)
New America's tally shows that since September 11, 2001, incidents of right-wing extremism have caused 86 deaths. Incidents causing death were:
(...)
(check link if you care)

As predicted, you don't care to have a debate, you would rather inject other side topics over and over again. Why? because you know you have no argument, so you have to manufacture an opinion for me for you to defeat. The left has no grounds calling for blame over rhetoric let alone violence based on the past several years of their own behavior.

I'm not the person dragging this off-topic... This thread is about right-wing terrorism, and you are the only person dragging it off-topic.  You dragged it so far off-topic that the moderator had to remove your bullshit and move it to another thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061049.0

How many Americans have been killed by left-wing terrorists?  My research says the number is zero... do you have a different number?
16  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
But Satan thought he was better than God and tried to conquer God. So, God destroyed him, and is in the process of destroying his works.

From what I remember from reading the bible, Satan was the good guy

God murders, or orders the Israelites to murder, millions of people in the bible...

Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to do it

Satan is known as the questioner/accuser of God... Satan didn't try to "conquer" God... Satan accused God of abusing his authority like a dictator... Satan managed to convince 33% of all the angels that God was a dick... God saw that he was losing his control, so before it reached 50%, he banned everyone from heaven... just like a fascist dictator would do

God is a fascist dictator... no wonder republicans like God and Trump so much... sorry, not sorry
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: November 01, 2018, 02:02:40 PM
Do you see how stupid the religious ideologies are?  Not only they teach you nonsense, but the moral code they espouse is abhorrent.

Have you checked out Buddhism?

As much as I abhor religion (and you know I do), I can't seem to find these flaws with Buddhism...
18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: November 01, 2018, 01:48:19 PM
As compared to what?  Your dream?  Life originated in liquid water.

You are just trolling me.  You cannot be that stupid.

If you want to discuss the origin of life and how a man was created you have to use evidence other than what the Bible says.

Bible requires faith.  Faith is not a reliable way to discover the truth.

LOL! You don't even realize how stupid that is, do you?... that anybody would think he can figure out what happened hundreds of thousands or millions of years in the past. Let me show you how stupid it is.

People would probably like you more and read your posts if you didn't start every post with a personal insult

Today, right now, we have hundreds of thousands or millions of smart mathematicians trying to figure out where the Forex, the stock market, the derivatives market, the nations, elections, and thousands of other things are going in life.

You can't compare studying the history of the universe to predicting the future of the stock market, etc... that's not a proper analogy, and nobody is going to be stupid enough to believe that makes sense

If you had any brains at all, you would be scientifically checking into why the Bible is a solid, eye witness record, of things that happened in the past

Please stop beginning and ending your posts with insults... try to use facts and evidence to convince people you are right... insulting someone only proves you are angry and wrong
19  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In search of Fascism on: November 01, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
communism, which, by such narrow definition, are fascists, or even worse extreme fascists, as the state controls absolutely everything on society.

Communists are not fascists... they are literally on the opposite ends of the political spectrum



Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy

Fascism is supporting a dictator/king to dictate laws at his whim, instead of a governing body like congress... communism is democratic compared to fascism... in communism, the will of the people is what is most important... in fascism, the will of the dictator is the only thing that matters

Trump is a fascist like Kim Jong-Un and Vladmir Putin... that's why he likes them so much... he wants to BE them
20  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump wants to end birthright citizenship on: October 31, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
The 14th amendment has been used incorrectly.  People who were born in the US and who do not reside the US should never have been given citizenships.  

The 14th amendment was written to give former slaves citizenship.  It was used correctly to give citizenship to anyone born in this country, regardless of whether their parents were citizens or slaves or whatever.

I'm not saying a pregnant woman from another country should be able to fly to the US in 2018 and have a kid who gets automatic citizenship, but that is the way the constitution is worded... and as mentioned before, there is over 100 years of precedent to overturn if you want to change the way the law is interpreted
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