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181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is marriage a kind of punishment? on: September 23, 2018, 11:32:17 AM
“By all means marry; if you get a good wife, you’ll become happy; if you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher.”
--Socrates (I guess he had a bad one)
182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 23, 2018, 02:16:55 AM
Spokesman for GOP on Kavanaugh nomination resigns; has been accused of harassment in the past
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/spokesman-gop-kavanaugh-nomination-resigns-has-been-accused-harassment-past-n912156

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WASHINGTON — A press adviser helping lead the Senate Judiciary Committee’s response to a sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has stepped down amid evidence he was fired from a previous political job in part because of a sexual harassment allegation against him.

Garrett Ventry, 29, who served as a communications aide to the committee chaired by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, had been helping coordinate the majority party's messaging in the wake of Christine Blasey Ford’s claim that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her 36 years ago at a high school party. In a response to NBC News, Ventry denied any past "allegations of misconduct."

After NBC News raised questions about Ventry's employment history and the sexual harassment allegation against him, Judiciary Committee Spokesman Taylor Foy replied in a statement: "While (Ventry) strongly denies allegations of wrongdoing, he decided to resign to avoid causing any distraction from the work of the committee."

Ventry also resigned Saturday from the public relations company where he had been on a temporary leave of absence to work for the Judiciary Committee, a company spokesman told NBC News.

Republicans familiar with the situation had been concerned that Ventry, because of his history, could not lead an effective communications response.

Ventry worked as a social media adviser in 2017 in the office of North Carolina House Majority Leader John Bell, who fired Ventry after several months.

“Mr. Ventry did work in my office and he’s no longer there, he moved on,” Bell told NBC News. He refused to discuss the precise nature of the firing.
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183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: September 23, 2018, 01:19:58 AM
184  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: September 22, 2018, 02:40:50 PM
Nobody knows what must happen in a person's life, that he would renounce religion.

Quite simply, I don't like being lied to

I don't believe in gods for the same reason I don't believe in ghosts, gremlins, leprechauns, faeries, unicorns, zombies, vampires, bigfoot, angels, demons, crystals, chakras, chi, dowsing, tarot cards, mediums, psychics, and many other human inventions which have zero scientific evidence to support the claim of their existence
185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: September 22, 2018, 11:26:27 AM
1) If God created the universe, and everything in it... that includes evil

2) If God created evil, God cannot be omnibenevolent

If your god is defeated by simple logic, it probably doesn't exist

Ah the Epicurean paradox.

The argument that God should all prevent evil from existing is not well founded. Biblical scripture in fact explicitly states the opposite.

You missed the point... Christians claim their god is omnibenevolent... which itself is a claim that god would prevent all evil from existing... it is not my argument, that is the Christian argument...

I have shown that an omnibenevolent god is an impossibility... that's how logic works, your god is contradictory and cannot exist

In a similar fashion, an omnipotent god is also an impossibility... god cannot make a boulder so big he can't lift it (or if he can, then he can't lift everything)... either way it is another paradox showing your god is contradictory and impossible to exist

If your god can be defeated so easily with logic... he definitely does not exist
186  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: September 21, 2018, 04:48:19 PM
1) If God created the universe, and everything in it... that includes evil

2) If God created evil, God cannot be omnibenevolent

If your god is defeated by simple logic, it probably doesn't exist
187  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: September 21, 2018, 02:48:05 PM
Even a great scientist like Einstein believes in the "pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza."

Einstein was not a religious scholar, it was not his area of expertise.  Anyway, he was most definitely not a christian.



Einstein was also a Socialist...



And extremely anti-capitalism



188  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: September 21, 2018, 02:34:19 PM
Whenever BADLogic ends his posts with his tagline and sunglasses, I think of Donald Trump saying, "believe me"... a clear indication that the preceding statement is a complete lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDTeMNhuPTc
189  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: September 21, 2018, 02:23:43 PM
Remember this. The Bible is not a museum of Saints. It is a Laboratory of Sinners.

The images i have seen are not the Christianity I know
But the images that ANTI-Christians have perceive towards Christianity by Hatred.

If you study the morals of the Bible especially the new testament,
you would really see the difference between the CHRISTIAN on earth that the REAL CHRISTIANS.

What I mean, is there are Extreme Christians that see all the worldly and uncommmon things as EVIL.
But real Chrsitianity teaches everyone to be kind, humble and loving.
Clearly, many Churches and sectors did not follow these teachings appropraitey.

FAITH is what we need. not the religion.

Who knows, ma be the God of non-Chirstian sectors is te God the Christians know.

So they aren't True Christians™?

This is known as the "No True Scotsman Fallacy"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
190  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pennsylvania Catholic Church covers up 300 chomo priests on: September 20, 2018, 01:20:24 PM
Surprisingly, Catholic opinion of the pope has not changed any more than Splendulus' opinion of Catholics...

I suppose people see what they want to see, and don't see what they don't want to see



Lesson: Go after the soft target with money, the Catholic Church. Not the distributed little Protestant churches or the distributed Muslim operations. Then pick non-Catholics for the jury.

Don't be silly... I go after the ones molesting children in disgustingly large numbers, and moving priests around to cover it up... that's the Catholics and only the Catholics... neither Muslims nor Protestants have even been accused of such things

Muslims and Mormons have about the same amount of money as the Catholic church... it's not about money, it's about pedophiles... Catholics have the most pedophiles, proven in a court, by a judge and jury

Facts are facts

Sorry, not sorry

Stop trying to tell me why you think I'm against pedophiles beyond the fact that they are pedophiles.  All you are doing is building a straw-man so you can knock it down
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man.""
191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: September 20, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Nice to see BADLogic helping bump my anti-christianity thread every day... thanks brah

Brooklyn Catholic Diocese to Pay Massive Settlement in Child Sexual Abuse Cases
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/19/headlines/brooklyn_catholic_diocese_part_of_massive_settlement_in_child_sexual_abuse_cases

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The Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn, New York, has agreed to pay out $27.5 million to four men who were sexually abused by a religious teacher between 2003 and 2009. It is one of the largest settlements ever awarded to abuse victims within the Catholic Church.

$27.5 million to 4 men...

How much is it going to cost to pay off the other thousands of people molested by catholic priests?

Will the the Catholic church have enough money to pay everyone this much?

Why are people still giving money to Catholic pedophile priests?
192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: September 20, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
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I assume you mean math/science is fact-based not faith-based... math/science is based on facts which you can show to another person... I can show you that 1 + 1 = 2... I can show you how to do an experiment that proves the Earth is spherical... science shows you the evidence, rather than asserting claims without facts or evidence which can be shown to someone (the way religion does it)

Science is based on observations, and the scientific hypothesis.

This is different than "facts."

Math is based on mathematical proofs.

All facts are observations... that's a fact, Jack

Science is based entirely on observations... repeatable, verifiable observations

"If you can't show it, you don't know it" -Aron Ra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
"Scientific facts are verified by repeatable careful observation or measurement"

Actually, you are cherry picking the article in wikipedia to support your rather lame understanding of the matter. The article supports exactly what I said.

In the most basic sense, a scientific fact is an objective and verifiable observation, in contrast with a hypothesis or theory, which is intended to explain or interpret facts.[20]

Did you even read what you quoted from wikipedia?

"a scientific fact is an objective and verifiable observation"

"a fact is an observation" (adjectives removed)

How is this not exactly what I said, and the opposite of what you keep saying?

Scientific Fact = objectively verifiable observation (repeatable experiments, et al)

I don't understand how you keep saying that facts are not observations, when your quote specifically says, "A scientific fact is an objective and verifiable observation"

What exactly do you not understand?
193  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: September 19, 2018, 10:30:29 AM
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I assume you mean math/science is fact-based not faith-based... math/science is based on facts which you can show to another person... I can show you that 1 + 1 = 2... I can show you how to do an experiment that proves the Earth is spherical... science shows you the evidence, rather than asserting claims without facts or evidence which can be shown to someone (the way religion does it)

Science is based on observations, and the scientific hypothesis.

This is different than "facts."

Math is based on mathematical proofs.

All facts are observations... that's a fact, Jack

Science is based entirely on observations... repeatable, verifiable observations

"If you can't show it, you don't know it" -Aron Ra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
"Scientific facts are verified by repeatable careful observation or measurement"
194  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: September 19, 2018, 10:14:36 AM
Problem of evil, that is easy to explain. Who told you that killing is evil? Its the bible right? Or the human mortality.

Simple if god did not exist there will be no morality. Killing will become a animal nature.

Have you ever wondered why humans finds guilt when they kill and other animals don't? Free will that god has given us

Killing has been immoral since before humans evolved... even animals understand it is wrong to kill their own kind... this is not something unique to humans, much less any specific religion... this is simply evolution of a social species... it is beneficial to the species if they don't go around killing each other, and detrimental to the species if they do

Murder has also been illegal since before your religion was invented... your religious book copied word for word from the Code of Hammurabi... you don't even know your own religious history, much less human history
195  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pennsylvania Catholic Church covers up 300 chomo priests on: September 19, 2018, 10:10:15 AM
Surprisingly, Catholic opinion of the pope has not changed any more than Splendulus' opinion of Catholics...

I suppose people see what they want to see, and don't see what they don't want to see

196  Other / Off-topic / Re: Transgenderism is a mental illness. on: September 19, 2018, 01:41:01 AM
197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Politics and Cannabis, does the lobby enters the industry on: September 18, 2018, 03:46:34 PM
The main reason cannabis is illegal is because the pharmaceutical industry spends millions of dollars lobbying congress to keep it illegal... they don't want the competition

The problem for them is public opinion has changed about cannabis.  It is no longer considered some drug that turns you into a demon and makes black people rape white women (have you seen "Reefer Madness"?)

Cannabis as a medicine has really changed how people view the plant.  Parents with epileptic children were moving to Colorado because they had access to medicine which stops their kid's seizures.  It is heartbreaking to see other families who cannot afford to move to Colorado not get the medicine their children need.

I have seen polls showing as high as 94% of Americans support medical marijuana, and 60-70% support recreational marijuana

Everyone sees the tide has shifted and cannabis will soon be legal.  Anyone with power (money) will want to invest in it... people love the stuff, and it will make boatloads of money, provide jobs, etc
198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 18, 2018, 03:32:51 PM
Maybe we could have sex cards  Cheesy  you flash you sex card meaning you both want it without trying the grope thing then that way no getting blamed for sexual assault..
OH and stick it on the blockchain Roll Eyes Cheesy

That wouldn't work nowadays.  You can have a signed contract and the woman still has the right to change her mind, even during sex.

I don't understand how someone could be having sex and suddenly change their mind, but I don't understand most of what people do...
199  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: September 18, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
That I cannot answer, I might want to discuss the answer according to bible which you find "just a fantasy or unreal" therefore my explanation will be pointless.

I am not afraid of the bible, I have read most of it, and it is highly flawed.  Too much murder, slavery and general hatred for my liking.  The only good part of the bible is the stuff about Jesus.  I agree he was a cool guy who really "got it".  I don't believe that he performed "miracles" (if you even call turning water into wine at a party because they were so drunk they ran out of wine... a miracle?)

None of the western religions have a good answer for the Problem of Evil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

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Originating with Greek philosopher Epicurus, the logical argument from evil is as follows:
   1) If an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient god exists, then evil does not.
   2) There is evil in the world.
   3) Therefore, an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient god does not exist.

Eastern religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc) get around this problem by not having an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient god.

The problem seems to be that when you apply so many omni-* aspects to your god, you end up with logical contradictions

Other contradictions go like:
Can your god make a boulder so big he can't lift it?
If he can lift it, then he is not omnipotent... if he can't create a boulder big enough, then he is not omnipotent

It's a lose-lose situation providing evidence that omnipotence is an impossibility
200  Other / Off-topic / Re: Transgenderism is a mental illness. on: September 18, 2018, 02:44:17 PM
Am I the only one who finds it interesting that so many of these anti-gay or anti-trans politicians and preachers keep getting caught having sex with underage boys?

Ex-GOP senator who voted for anti-trans ‘bathroom bill’ gets 15 years for child sex trafficking
http://deadstate.org/ex-gop-senator-who-voted-for-anti-trans-bathroom-bill-gets-15-years-for-child-sex-trafficking/

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In March of 2017, former Oklahoma state senator Ralph Shortey was arrested and charged with child prostitution after being caught in a hotel room with an underage boy. This Monday, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison on a child sex trafficking charge.

Shortey, who is now 36, faced sentences between 10 years to life. Once he is released from prison, he’ll serve 10 additional years of supervised probation. The judge said that Shortey will also have to pay a fine at a later date that could be up to $250,000.

In November, Shortey pleaded guilty in a deal that allowed prosecutors to drop three child pornography charges against him, a deal he said at the time was in the best interest of him and his family.

According to the Moore Police Department, Shortey was arrested in March of 2017 after police went to “check on a juvenile at the Super 8 Motel” in Moore, Oklahoma. When they found Shortey and the juvenile, who was then 17, there was allegedly a “strong smell of marijuana” and an open box condoms in the juvenile’s bag. Shortey claimed he had simply gone to the hotel to “hang out with a friend.”

Police also said they found  sexually explicit exchanges on the teen’s tablet in which Shortey referred to the teen as “baby boy” and offered him cash in exchange for “sexual stuff.”

According to ABC News, Shortey resigned shortly after the arrest and his wife divorced him earlier this year.

In the wake of Shortey’s arrest, LGBT advocacy groups pointed out his support for anti-transgender legislation such as a proposed “bathroom bill” from 2016.

From The Norman Transcript:

    These stigmatizing bills create fear, bias, and discrimination against the LGBTQ community even when they fail. We find it highly ironic that Senator Shortey voted to advance this legislation out of committee, and less than a year later, he was caught in what appears to be actual predatory behavior toward a vulnerable youth. …

    There has never been a legitimate recorded incident in Oklahoma of a transgender person harming anyone in a restroom, yet there are numerous accounts of predatory behavior by anti-LGBTQ legislators who have taken bigoted votes akin to the vote Senator Shortey cast last year.

Shortey had also previously used fake names to acquire child pornography and to seek out minors on the internet.


I also find it interesting that republicans accused democrats (specifically Hillary Clinton) of child sex trafficking... yet a republican senator is the one convicted of the crime...

Granted, Harvey Weinstein is a democrat accused of a similar crime (though he is not a politician, nor has he been convicted)
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/14/harvey-weinstein-sex-trafficking-lawsuit-can-proceed-judge-rules.html
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