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141  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Reddit style negative ratings instead of merit system on: May 29, 2018, 10:20:28 PM
"better ranked members" I think you mean higher ranked members shouldn't be given more points just because they are a higher rank this doesn't mean they know what is a useful post and what isn't and would mean they would only upvote what they agree with and that's something that the merit system tries to avoid by only allowing non sources to send merit if they have received merit themselves and merit sources are selected because they are good posters themselves.
142  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Reddit style negative ratings instead of merit system on: May 29, 2018, 09:50:08 PM
If you think Reddit promotes good posts then I have news for you...not only could the upvoting be misused more than the merit system it sounds like the system you are suggesting would result in a popularity contest and upvoting of memes and images rather than actual good posts.
143  Other / Meta / Re: Almost automated managing of +60 social bounties at the same time? Tagging? on: May 29, 2018, 08:40:32 PM
What I fail to understand is a lot of them don't even put in any effort at all.
I don't understand that either.  Even though I would be posting on bitcointalk if I wasn't in a signature campaign, I still try to put some extra effort into most of my posts because I'm being paid a pretty penny to post--and that was true in other campaigns I've been in for the past few years, including Yobit.  Yes, I've written some short posts that could be considered garbage, but by and large I think I do a decent job.  I don't just plop down something that takes seconds to think of and write, and yet that's exactly what a lot of these bounty shitposters do--and I know that in their countries, what they get paid from those bounties can buy a hell of a lot more than in my country.  My feeling is that they should at least try to do a good job for the amount of money they're making. 

But nope, in the end they're just spammers--and illiterate & lazy ones at that.

It's not a problem when the majority of your posts are of stellar quality. Short posts don't always mean garbage neither but what some of these people are getting away with is criminal. In bounties it is common for some users to copy and paste previous replies in the same thread.
144  Other / Meta / Re: Reserve translations spammers on: May 29, 2018, 12:36:56 AM
I think for this exact reason if the reserve post hasn't been edited within an hour then it should be reported and if the user continuously does this then they should be temp banned. It's the only way to stop this from happening. The posts that have been deleted should be more than enough as a warning.

The problem is not only the res post not edited.
In my opinion the most annoyng this is this one IN EVERY BOUNTY, (I've picked one random)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3299717.msg34446886#msg34446886
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3299717.msg34448911#msg34448911
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3299717.msg34449208#msg34449208

Reservations post with pics sometimes Huge and the need to scroll 2 pages to read something to skip 1 spam post
This one is a great example
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3299717.msg34450896#msg34450896

All this when is crearly written from managers:
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"    To reserve translations please fill the form. The MF Chain team will review resubmissions and reach out directly to selected candidates.
    We are looking for Jr. Members or above.


Application Form: LINK (I've removed the link)"




Yep those too should be reported. They are the same as the normal reserve posts except they have used an image instead and I would agree that the image is even more annoying than just the reserve posts.Especially when images can take a little while to load and then jumps the page as you are reading something.
145  Other / Meta / Re: Reserve translations spammers on: May 29, 2018, 12:03:11 AM
Yeah! They are really annoying. I don't know if they are desperate to earn that's why they insist their proposal or just being an arrogant Roll Eyes? It's very clear in manager's post that there are no transalation campaign and yet they still do such act.

Maybe I will take some considerations if a member reserved for a translation service and delete it after knowing that the manager really don't need for translation campaign. But for those who dont, then they must be accused of spamming and reported to the moderator for having right punishment (maybe mods should give a warning for first offense to show second chance for the guilty ones).

I think for this exact reason if the reserve post hasn't been edited within an hour then it should be reported and if the user continuously does this then they should be temp banned. It's the only way to stop this from happening. The posts that have been deleted should be more than enough as a warning.
146  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: R.I.P. Poloniex (new face-image requirements) on: May 28, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
It is like Bittrex-scenario all over again. They are implementing what Bittrex did in the past and this will definitely put most of the traders to other trading platform. Government policies are really making their way into these exchanges to hurt our anonymous trading life. I've been thinking if I will let them have my face but as things stand right now, there are other exchanges out there that don't require any verification at all. This will only limit the selection of trading pairs that I can play with but I'm totally fine with it.

I don't see why anyone would use Poloniex over other trusted exchanges which don't require you to provide photographic evidence. I think we'll eventually see the others go the same route though and will eventually have to accept it or move on to p2p exchanges like localbitcoins.
147  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: R.I.P. Poloniex (new face-image requirements) on: May 28, 2018, 10:18:10 PM
They've been operating without this additional proof for a long time and I don't see why they have made it a requirement now.

It could be related to Circle's acquisition of Poloniex. It was clear that due to the approval of the SEC, that exchange would change fundamentally at a later point, but the only question is when. If I read through everything related to the potential transformation of Poloniex, then it very likely will become an exchange where professional entities will be able to trade a wide variety of Bitcoin tied instruments (futures, options, securities, etc). I don't think we'll be hearing much from Poloniex in that regard, but I do expect the security and verification measures to become worse than it is right now. Alongside Coinbase and Gemini, Poloniex now too is one of the most regulated exchanges in the industry.

I guess so. I would think they would be doing everything in their power to avoid regulation though. Doesn't look to be the case and I would like to think they'll lose a lot of customers. I just hope people will be able to get their money out without any issues.
148  Other / Meta / Re: It's very difficult to get merit and higher ranks don't like bounty to be a job? on: May 28, 2018, 09:46:27 PM
Another problem: since the introduction of the merit, thousands of members have written thousands of pages exclusively on the subject...

Isn't that -ironically- a form of spam?
 
This time and energy should be spent on better projects.

Yes but the pros definitely outweigh the cons. The complaints about the merit system are restricted to the meta board and will soon die off once everyone is familiar with the merit system. 

It's not really spam when a feature is being discussed either. It's only spam if it's being repeated over and over and no new points are being made which is the case with some of the threads.
149  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: R.I.P. Poloniex (new face-image requirements) on: May 28, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Additional photo with your own face and some time stamp will really prevent frauds and same as you said anyone can pass up others identity or documentation where they do add up with that kind of requirement i know it does sucks to have that add up but if you arent hiding something then this would be a problem into your side but if you are really into anonymous things then most likely you would really hate up this thing no doubt.

I would like to think anyone using Bitcoin would be encouraging businesses to go the decentralized route to a certain extent at least. I understand certain measures are to be taken but this is really overkill. They've been operating without this additional proof for a long time and I don't see why they have made it a requirement now.

150  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: R.I.P. Poloniex (new face-image requirements) on: May 28, 2018, 08:11:39 PM


Doesn't a passport have a photo anyway? I don't see why they would require an additional one.
They can't verify it's actually you if you only give them the photo of your passport, since there would be no time stamp etc, you could just use a false identity.

I also received this email about poloniex forcing verification a couple days ago, in which it stated the following:

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We are asking everyone to take action within the next 14 days.

This seems scary. What exactly will happen after the next 14 days? Will they just claim my funds? I can't find anything about this and it seems quite weird.
Anyone who can explain that a bit further?

Right. Strange as other services which require evidence of who you are don't require the additional timestamp on a photo and normally just require ID of some sort. This could sometimes be a driving license or even a bill that you've recently been sent via mail.

If they do seize the funds after 14 days that would be wrong. One could make the accusation that they had planned that a lot of people wouldn't be able to provide the information they requested in such a small amount of time and therefore knew that they would profit from this.

It's okay to suspend users from using their services if they don't live up to the standards of Poloniex but they should allow access to the funds indefinitely. 
151  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: R.I.P. Poloniex (new face-image requirements) on: May 28, 2018, 07:39:42 PM
It's not whether Poloniex themselves will use it for shady activities it's whether they can keep it safe. As we know from past events Bitcoin users who hold a substantial amount of coin can become targets of hackers. Exchanges in the past have been taken down and breached. In the past only certain amounts of coin were stolen. But if Poloniex was now compromised they would not only get coin they would also get the identity of several thousand Bitcoin users. This sort of shit is what turns me off from major exchanges and makes me wish there were decentralized exchanges out there I've yet to find one but if anyone knows of any please let me know.

Even if you aren't  bothered by the additional information required yourself you should still be prepared to boycott anyone that requires this information as it's just not needed.

Doesn't a passport have a photo anyway? I don't see why they would require an additional one.
152  Other / Meta / Re: It's very difficult to get merit and higher ranks don't like bounty to be a job? on: May 28, 2018, 07:07:57 PM
Bounty hunters are a bit frowned upon and less likely to get merit..

But.. Their is a shit ton of merit wasted on legendary accounts..
Just look in this thread at how much..

Yeah you guys make great posts all the time and are worthy of "merit".. I'm not arguing that at all..

Legendaries can send their earned sMerit too it's not like it's completely wasted and if a new rank comes out which there's been discussion of then it won't be wasted.

A great post is a great post ranked shouldn't really play a part in giving out sMerits.
153  Other / Meta / Re: What is this forum? https://bitcointalk.org/ on: May 28, 2018, 06:36:26 PM
You've linked to this forum in your title. Its either a phishing attempt or is a mirror of the site. Just bookmark this site and access it that way at least then you won't be logging in to a phishing site.

How did you come across the site? if its through google search or something similar you can report it as a phishing site.
154  Other / Meta / Re: Restrict Altcoin [ANN] threads to Full Members and up...kill the spambots! on: May 28, 2018, 06:04:03 PM
There are many new projects that are creating new accounts for posting their ANN thread, if Altcoin [ANN] threads are reduced for only Full Members and up, then new projects will be forced to cheat, by buying new accounts, just like for example Atlant team have done, and get a red trust for that.

And also spammers wouldn't disappear from the forum, they will just find some other threads, I think the best way out of it is just delete such a posts, but projects wouldn't do it, because the bigger their thread is the better project looks like.

That might happen but it would be severely limited compared to what we are seeing right now and those accounts which are bought for bumping would soon be found out and not only would we be removing spam but also preventing bought/sold accounts from scamming.

Any system we put in would lead to abuse one way or another.
155  Other / Meta / Re: Reserve translations spammers on: May 28, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
Ofc such posts should be deleted as a spam but imho this is more about the bounty managers that work with this type of translators. It feels like that none of the reputable managers should use such service. It could be good if some of them could make a public blacklist with spammers and google translators and let the other managers add the other individuals if they find any.
This is definetely a kind of "community" problem that can't be solved by forum restrictions without harming the normal users.

What are bounty managers suppose to do about people who reserve posts? Sometimes they reserve posts and then edit it a few days later and the bounty manager might of not seen that they reserved it. This is something that needs to be enforced by the moderators. I know that bounty managers are seen as the evil of the forum and I would normally agree that  they are to blame for a lot of the problems but this is not one of them.
156  Other / Meta / Re: Reserve translations spammers on: May 28, 2018, 04:41:20 PM
If they haven't edited their reserve post within an hour they should probably get it deleted and if they keep on doing it then they should receive a temporary ban.

The only problem with this is there's hundreds of reserve posts and not enough getting reported.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announcement for all the newbies who follow Bitcoin in social media and Reddit on: May 28, 2018, 04:04:45 PM
Before every newbie follows anything, you should know which protocol they are belonging to and remove the confusion.

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/r/bitcoin is a BTC subreddit

/r/btc is a BCH subreddit

@bitcoin is a BCH twitter

@btc is a BTC twitter

http://bitcoin.com  is a BCH site

http://bitcoin.org  is a BTC site

Bitcoin Core is a BTC implementation

Bitcoin ABC is a BCH implementation

Credit to Bitcoin developer, James Lopp, for this. The people of the Bitcoin Cash community might be furious if they see this because they believe "BCH is Bitcoin" which is wrong. BCH is a FORK of Bitcoin.

Sorry but it is the truth.

Some people who are following bitcoin through social media only are those who are incapacitated to know the real one. Look at the crypto enthussiasts here in forum, even a newbie can identify what is BTC and its fork which is BCH. In short, people who stayed here for just a period of time can learn about bitcoin because this forum does not want troll and hoax which are usually done outside of this world  (e.g. social media).

This is not always the case it can sometimes be confusing for a newbie who isn't aware of Roger Ver and his exploits via social media in attempts of making Bitcoin cash = Bitcoin. He lost a lot of credibility when he was exposed by many of the more experienced members but I feel that his propaganda worked on a select few and they were probably lower ranked members.
158  Other / Meta / Re: Almost automated managing of +60 social bounties at the same time? Tagging? on: May 28, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
So what everybody is mostly suggesting is that the Bounty Managers need to be the ones who change? Like instead of focusing on accepting and accepting members they should take a look at their post quality before they get accepted in the campaign? The problem here is anyone can be a bounty manager and also anyone can post a Bounty Campaign thread, aside from removing all kinds bounty campaigns the way I see it is there is no other solution rather than limiting the Bounty Campaign managers who can post a Bounty Campaign thread, in which these bounty campaign managers are the ones who can be trusted that they are not accepting spammers and shitposters.

I don't like the idea of a centralized picking of the certain people who can run the bounty campaigns but something needs to be done about it even though I disagree with a centralized list of people I think it would be better than the current situation where anyone and their mother can create a bounty.

Maybe DefaultTrust can start tagging the bad bounty managers as they are promoting spam?
This won't work like I said literally anyone can become a bounty managers, some Bounty Campaigns are even run by Jr. Members with Copper Membership. Tagging them won't sold anything as literally anyone has the potential to post a Bounty Campaign thread and become a bounty campaign manager. If we can't stop this money driven bounty managers spam won't stop in the forum.

That's true maybe we could limit the announcement/bounty threads to higher ranked members then to prevent this issue and then default trust can weed out the bad ones.

I guess theymos wouldn't implement this because of the copper membership but I think this is the only way to do it other than removing bounties/signatures all together.
159  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ★[ANN] bitcloak43blmhmn.com - BitCloak Btc / Bch Mixer - Fast, Trusted, Api,.. ★ on: May 28, 2018, 02:01:51 PM
Hello,

I was taking a look at the mixer and found that this URL is not working
https://bitcloak.ru/

I didn't knew bitcloak was online since 2016, congrats.

Pay anonymous is very interesting function, gonna try it soon.

Works for me? Not sure what browser you are trying to access it with but it's working with Tor Browser. (firefox) Try clearing your cookies if it continues to not work.
160  Other / Meta / Re: Almost automated managing of +60 social bounties at the same time? Tagging? on: May 28, 2018, 01:07:48 PM
So what everybody is mostly suggesting is that the Bounty Managers need to be the ones who change? Like instead of focusing on accepting and accepting members they should take a look at their post quality before they get accepted in the campaign? The problem here is anyone can be a bounty manager and also anyone can post a Bounty Campaign thread, aside from removing all kinds bounty campaigns the way I see it is there is no other solution rather than limiting the Bounty Campaign managers who can post a Bounty Campaign thread, in which these bounty campaign managers are the ones who can be trusted that they are not accepting spammers and shitposters.

I don't like the idea of a centralized picking of the certain people who can run the bounty campaigns but something needs to be done about it even though I disagree with a centralized list of people I think it would be better than the current situation where anyone and their mother can create a bounty.

Maybe DefaultTrust can start tagging the bad bounty managers as they are promoting spam?
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