Eligible pools (weight):
GBYTE-USDC (100%)
GBYTE-WBTC (100%)
GBYTE-ETH (100%)
OUSD-USDC (100%)
OBIT-WBTC (100%)
OETH-ETH (100%)
https://liquidity.obyte.org/

Obyte native coin - GBYTE
Counterstake.org: USDC, WBTC, ETH - bridged from Ethereum
Ostable.org: OUSD, OBIT, OETH - stablecoins backed with GBYTE

Binance lists memecoins that get instantly lot of users. Obyte is working product and too boring for them.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-ceo-reveals-one-key-factor-for-token-listings

GBYTE is listed on DEXes already, even on Binance Smart Chain.

Really? It was listed on Upbit and BitZ, but nobody traded it there. What was stopping the promotion efforts then?
You should promote Obyte, not centralized exchanges that can lose your money.
No use of more exchanges when there is no users to trade it. More users need to be trading on existing ones.

Obyte is listed where people trade it, Bittrex for Europe and United States users, Coinspot for Australian users, Uniswap/Pancakeswap/Quickswap for those who don't want to deal with centralized exchanges.
https://obyte.org/#exchanges

Maybe some people finally understood how undervalued this microcap GBYTE is https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/qaueft/here_is_an_example_how_cheap_gbyte_is/

Or they are excited about oswap.io v2 https://blog.obyte.org/whats-next-for-obyte-oswap-v2-71caa4181c6d

CMC sucks and the name is Obyte, not 0byte. The exchanges are listed on website https://obyte.org/#exchanges

GBYTE is available on Uniswap, Pancakeswap and Quickswap
https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0x31f69de127c8a0ff10819c0955490a4ae46fcc2a
https://pancakeswap.finance/swap?outputCurrency=0xeb34de0c4b2955ce0ff1526cdf735c9e6d249d09
https://quickswap.exchange/#/swap?outputCurrency=0xab5f7a0e20b0d056aed4aa4528c78da45be7308b

Even CMC shows that GBYTE is available on Ethereum, BSC, Polygon, but they don't show the Uniswap, Pancakeswap and Quickswap markets. Coingecko does shows Uniswap and Quickswap markets, but not Pancakeswap. Coinpaprika tracks most GBYTE market s, even cryptox.pl and Bitladon, but doesn't show the AMMs.

New GUI wallet got released https://github.com/byteball/obyte-gui-wallet/releases

Uniswap and Pancakeswap are top10 exchanges according to https://nomics.com/exchanges
https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0x31f69de127c8a0ff10819c0955490a4ae46fcc2a
https://pancakeswap.finance/swap?outputCurrency=0xeb34de0c4b2955ce0ff1526cdf735c9e6d249d09

Did not know they are called Level 1 Smart-Contracts, I call those that let you spend on certain conditions as basic smart-contracts (Bitcoin scripts, Obyte conditional payments) and those that react to your trigger as advanced smart-contracts (Ethereum smart-contracts, Obyte Autonomous Agents).


Found 4 on Reddit, but I doubt they help making informed decisions
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/f9yfls/blackbytes_vs_other_privacy_coins_february_2020/
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/cfacjs/blackbytes_vs_the_big_3_july_2019/
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/cmyan5/how_obyte_transaction_fees_and_fee_model_compares/
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/alaguh/obyte_google_and_ethereum/


Or you could bridge the tokens over and use the wrapped tokens on the other network. This way you don't need to deplay or rewrite any new smart-contract.
https://counterstake.org/

Ethereum fees sucks, so it makes sense to bridge tokens from Ethereum to Obyte and use those tokens on Obyte instead for low fees, but what's missing on Obyte that is successful on Ethereum, but not already implemented on Obyte?
* Uniswap - https://oswap.io
* DEX - https://odex.ooo
* rewards for liquidity providers (i think Uniswap doesn't have it anymore) - https://liquidity.obyte.org
* DAI/SAI or other collateral based loans - https://ostable.org
* OpenSea/Rarible - https://cryptothings.gallery

In a way, how many actual users are on Ethereum and how many of them are just bots that arbitrage and do MEV? Ethereum is so clogged because it's profitable to MEV. If somebody has to pay 10 ETH to sandwitch attack somebody, but while doing it will earn just 1 ETH, they will do it.


Blockchain Trilemma:
* Decentralized - In terms of deciding what goes into the ledger and in what order? Obyte wins hands down, there is no middlemen to decide that. In terms of how many full nodes out there? Currently there aren't many because it's small community, but it is currently much easier to run a Obyte full node than Bitcoin or Ethereum full node. During last 4-5 years, Obyte full node has grown to 70 GB, which is nothing compared to how big are Bitcoin and Ethereum nodes. If Obyte would be as popular as them, it would probably grow as fast as them and will not have any benefit in terms of ease of running full node. But in terms of what goes into the ledger, Obyte would still be more decentralized.
* Scalable - There has been no urgent need for scaling yet, but Obyte already has Payment Channels and there has been progress made on Sidechains. Best part, getting into and out of Payment Channels or bridging to other chains doesn't cost you an arm and a leg. You can already bridge to Ethereum, Binance Smart Chain and Polygon, the cost is usually there because claiming on the other chain is much more expensive than on Obyte https://counterstake.org/
* Secure - It might not be as secure as Bitcoin because Bitcoin is over-secured anyway and doesn't change much at all, but Obyte is as secure as Ethereum or even more secure. Front-running is difficult and sandwitch-attacks are near impossible. Can't double-spend and can be sure that your transaction is final when it becomes stable, no possibility to re-org.

But does that matter if you put "blockchain experts" into a room and say these things? No, people can't even agree, which blockchain has more merit than the other, let alone understanding how it compares to DAG. There is still very few people who understand what Order Providers (Witnesses) can do and cannot do. For somebody who is into the MEV-game, the best DeFi platform is the platform where they can extract out most value with MEV.


I have theory that Ethereum will not be as valuable when it finally goes PoS. The reason why Bitcoin and Ethereum has enjoyed those nice gains in price is because miners can't afford to sell lower than what they bought the electricity and mining equipment. Generally, more miners enter the competition and the rewards go lower with halvings, this forces the miners to sell higher. If at one point, miner would not need to pay so much for electricity bills, they could sell the reward at any price. This is the problem with GBYTE price too - if you never had to pay anything to get GBYTE, you can dump it at whatever price. Bitcoiners are used to dump coins from forks, so it doesn't matter for them at what price they dump GBYTE because they got it for free. Past years, it seems like 20-30 USD is the price where it starts to affect those people in terms of whether it is even worth to dump because Bittrex wallet has 100 000 GBYTE, but only 5000 GBYTE is on orderbooks.

Ignore that, it's old article written by me and published on Hackernoon by another author (basically sponsored content). It compares advanced Ethereum smart-contracts with basic Obyte smart-contracts (conditional payments), which have similar functionality to Bitcoin smart-contracts (basic scripting languages it has but not many know).
https://medium.com/blockstream/miniscript-bitcoin-scripting-3aeff3853620

In 2020 February, Obyte released Autonomous Agents, which are more equivalent to advanced Ethereum smart-contracts. Why it's called Autonomous Agents and not smart-contracts? Because Obyte already had smart-contracts and unpopular opinion, but smart-contracts is a shitty name for a sub-programs that can be deployed on-chain, actual smart-contracts are more like conditional payments that the basic scripting enables to do. Matter of fact, Ethereum whitepaper called their smart-contracts as Autonomous Agents too, but Ethereans decided to go with Smart-Contract. Hyperledger Fabric calls it Chaincode.
https://ethereum.org/en/whitepaper/#ethereum-accounts
https://obyte.org/platform/autonomous-agents


What would you like to see on them? I have made some comparison charts for myself, but more about different cryptocurrencies, not about smart-contracts. Most of the charts I have seen are not very accurate, especially when TPS is compared, because everybody calculates the TPS differently.

* Solana - it's main thing is about keeping the block producers time in sync very accurately, so they know when it's exactly each block producer's turn to produce blocks. Kind of nonsense IMHO, they could just have made the blocks bigger instead of making blocks so often. Reminds me of EOS, probably nobody will be able to run it soon. Not sure about their smart-contracts, probably clone of EVM.
* Avalanche AVAX - it's basically DAG of blocks with Proof of Stake, but Obyte is DAG of storage units (these are like transactions, but they can contain many different kind of messages from accounts controlled by same extended private key, eg same user). Avalanche is probably better than other blockchains, but doesn't get rid of block producers who are the middlemen/gatekeepers, but Obyte does - Obyte is ledger without middlemen. Avalanche also has multiple chains and on one of them, the tokens are natively supported (just like Obyte), but some other chain for DeFi is clone of EVM, i think. In general, odd hybrid.
* Polygon - clone of EVM, basically all same as Ethereum, but not decentralized at all. Great for low fees, wrapped GBYTE is on their Quickswap too https://quickswap.exchange/#/swap?outputCurrency=0xab5f7a0e20b0d056aed4aa4528c78da45be7308b
* Binance Smart Chain - clone of EVM, basically all same as Ethereum, but not decentralized at all. Great for low fees, wrapped GBYTE is on their Pancakeswap too https://pancakeswap.finance/swap?outputCurrency=0xeb34de0c4b2955ce0ff1526cdf735c9e6d249d09
* Nano - is basically a school project that turned into actual cryptocurrency. Its scope is very small, it can just do send/receive payments and they secure the network with dPoS, but it's actually not Proof of Stake at all because you actually don't stake any of your funds at all (there is no slashing for wrong doing). Originally, delegates had to vote on conflicting blocks (basically transactions, because each block contains 1 transaction), later they changed it to voting on all blocks. Since there is no fees, it also means that it's also free to spam it. Fun!
* IOTA - mother of all clusterfu*ks - i wouldn't touch it with ten-foot pole. They basically have stepped into all buckets/rakes that there are. First they started with stateless wallet that couldn't generate it's own keys, you had to generate them with online tools that stole your keys (one guy was charged this year). Then they let MIT review their code and argued that their open-source code (coordinator is closed-source) didn't have vulnerability in ternary hashing functions, but it was copy-protection instead. Then they stole user funds because they found out that you could spend any funds that was sent to address that was already used before, later they let users claim the funds back, not all did (probably because KYC). Last, but not least, they hot-linked Moonpay payment-processor library, which got hacked, so they needed to close down the payments for whole month (data still worked). Their fans are pretty good at migrating private keys because I don't know how many times they have done it already + each time they hand over their KYC info too. 
* Cardano - endless promises that took 3 years to develop and still failed with the most basic DeFi use case on their testnet. While Ethereum and it's clones are using account-model (balances are in state), Bitcon, Obyte and Cardano uses UTXO model. Obyte implemented Autonomous Agents so it can use any available UTXO, while Cardano forgot the possibility that somebody could add a transaction to a block that tries to spend the same UTXO - result is that only the first TX in a block spending the same UTXO will go through.

Obyte developed support for advanced smart-contracts in 11 months and has improved them a lot in past year. Next week, 3rd version of Autonomous Agents will activate.


It can mean anything, Obyte Autonomous Agents can be called more powerful than Ethereum Smart-contracts too because it has features that Ethereum doesn't, mainly because Ethereum has nothing built-in, just sandbox with sand in it and you can choose to build whatever you want from scratch. Other platforms, including Obyte, have noticed that pretty much every smart-contract will use tokens, so why not support tokens natively and not let users build them as yet another smart-contract.


Yes, same kind of dapps can be deployed on different platforms, but if it's not EVM based then they probably need to be rewritten. Also, Oscript (the language for Autonomous Agents) is a mix of declarative structures and imperative programming language, but Solidity is mostly just imperative programming language.


I personally think it's because 65% was given to Bitcoin holders for free, who has been dumping since the airdrop ended, so there hasn't not been any strong floor, but for last couple years, the floor seems to be around 20-30 USD, which seems so low that even those who have GBYTE, don't think it's worth to dump anymore. coins in circulation * price = marketcap.


It's not 0byte, it's Obyte. Some didn't like Byteball, some don't like Obyte. There will be no better name because there will always be somebody who doesn't like it. And it's pain in the ass to change the name, so I doubt we will go through that nonsense again.

There will be new GUI wallet released this week, which will fix this. It affects only full nodes, light wallets should be fine.

You can see who ise currently Order Providers there https://stats.obyte.org/witnesses.php and when you click on the addresses, you can see when they recently posted. If you don't have a GUI wallet installed, you can see which Order Providers the main hub is recommending from there https://obyte.io/witnesses

What do you mean by "maneuvered itself from a real hope a bit into the sidelines"? Just post above, there is announcement of bridges with Ethereum and Binance Smart Chain.
Obyte has given all the tools for it to be used in as many as projects as possible, if anybody has manuvered it to sidelines, it's the hodlers of its tokens.

Please do explain the "more open approach" when responding to FUD and misinformation. If the long time community member still doesn't understand how Obyte consensus works and what makes it unique then the "valued member" part isn't really true, isn't it? What value is there from members who still spread misinformation?

Just that some people are active, doesn't mean they have slightest idea what they are suggesting. You start taking advice from randos who don't get it and you end up with turd like BSV.

Example, go read some earliest posts in this thread and there were many who thought and still think today that 12 Order Providers is not enough and there should be 100 randomized and they should be all anonymous. What are they missing? First, Order Providers don't have the same powers (they don't decide whose transactions gets into the DAG) as block producers (they decide whose transactions gets to next block), so there is no need to randomize them. Second, anonymous nodes are potential Sybil attack (sabotage). Third, you change one detail and suddenly, rest of the consensus doesn't make any sense anymore and you need to change everything.

It's just so damn easy to see a small number somewhere and yell "centralized!" without actually digging into what privileges or lack of privileges are in the hands of few.

And sometimes, there are just people, who doesn't understand what is considered digital signature in EU or how eesti.ee emails are issued or what certain terms in DeFi mean, so they just want to fight because they think their previously acquired blockchain knowledge can be applied to everything.

I am not sure what more open times you reminisce, the great times are when weak hands don't dump. Obyte is as open as any open-source, you can contribute with Pull Request or Fork the code and launch your own. Some scammers have done it and lot of people who don't know how to maintain it have done it too. Some even have tried to launch a shitter fork of it by re-introducing PoW gatekeepers to network that doesn't need PoW.

If somebody manages to take down majority of Order Providers (7 out of 12) then network will still work (accepts payments and relays it to other full nodes), but the new part of the DAG doesn't become stable (transactions in new part of the DAG doesn't become confirmed/final). That's because Order Providers are not middlemen like block producers, Order Providers are more like lighthouses that others follow and they do exactly the same things as other full nodes that post transactions, they just have pledged to do it with a version of a full node (obyte-witness) that posts those transactions regularly. There can be many other full nodes on the network, some of them have to be full nodes, some of them don't https://developer.obyte.org/tutorials-for-newcomers

While the Order Providers are down, you can still post new transaction even with unconfirmed UTXOs - this feature has been there since early 2019 for your own UTXOs and has been optional for incoming uncomfirmed transactions (Spend unconfirmed funds setting), but with the latest GUI wallet, it's ON for all transactions. On blockchains, there is no order for transactions before block producers/miners take them from mempool and add to new block, but on Obyte, even when Order Providers are down, you can broadcast your transactions to the network and they have some kind of order already, just not final. You could argue that, the fee sets the order, but that's only true once the block is actually mined and block producers/miners can re-order the block contents anyway they like. It has become even a rapidly exploitable thing called MEV (BPEV). This makes blockchain unsuitable for DeFi.

Yes, you can ATTEMPT a double-spend any time, but if it clearly comes later than previous spending then it gets discarded immediately and if the order cannot be clearly calculated yet because not enough transactions from Order Providers then both transactions remain in the unstable part of the DAG until the order can be figured out by all full nodes. Full nodes need Order Provider transactions to figure out the main path (main chain) through the DAG. Order Providers doesn't vote on any transactions, they just show the direction of the DAG and therefore a main chain, like dropping breadcrumbs for others to follow.

If those majority of the Order Providers (7 out of 12) never come online then the community has a decision to make, either wait little longer or hard-fork and put new Order Providers in place (hard-fork needed because normally only 1 Order Provider can be changed at once, not multiple at once).

Yet, the age old question remains, which I have asked from FUDsters before: where is it illegal to post your own transactions to distributed ledger and how would 7 government institutions suddenly agree and get court orders to organize a event of taking down all the Order Provider nodes? Order Providers doesn't vote on any transactions and if posting your own transactions to distributed ledger becomes illegal then making new blocks or voting whose transactions go to blocks would become illegal way before.

Already today, we see some miners attempting to not include transactions from some addresses, it's just not an issue yet when majority doesn't do the same. On Obyte, Order Providers have no choice to tell what gets into the DAG and what doesn't - majority of them would need to sabotage the whole network in order to censor one. On blockchain, it takes majority to censor one, but you can't fork away from tyrannic mining whale, they will follow you even when you hard-fork, unless you change the mining algorithm so much that their miners become absolute.

P.S. Yes, you can see his post history that he posts updates here sometimes, but mostly you can see him on Discord. His next post will probably be either about Obyte-Ethereum/BSC bridge or about Smart Contracts with Arbitration. Both built by multiple devs.

It's not a flaw, xenon131 just spreads FUD and you ate it all up too. Whole point of Order Providers is that network stays up and all full nodes have access to keep posting to network.

That's more decentralized than any blockchain where if something happens with block producers (miners) then you can't even get your transactions to chain because block producers are the middlemen who pick the transactions.

Order Providers doesn't even have the power to 51% attack to double-spend, but on blockchains you can.

So, what is a flaw here, delayed confirmations on Obyte or possibility to double-spend via re-org?

Just shows you still doesn't understand how Obyte works, but you think you do.
Because, you think there is 15 Order Providers, but there is 12. Always have been 12. If stats.obyte.org shows more, then there is still 12, others additional ones on there are just candidates to become one of 12. Those 12 Order Providers are not the network, the network is all full nodes, which have been between 60-200 during previous years. Many of these full nodes can automatically recover even if DDoS them, some of them are even behind TOR.

You don't understand what centralization means, Obyte doesn't have block producers like on blockchains, so it doesn't matter if there is 12 or 15 Order Providers, what matters is that nobody has majority. Whether Obyte founder has 5 out of 12 or 7 out of 12, that is not majority. So, he is not single point of failure.
So, even if you take down all his nodes, which you don't know where they are and which doesn't have to be on same machine, that would not stop the DAG from becoming stable and nothing serious would happen, maybe just little longer confirmation times.

And even if you could somehow take down majority of 12 Order Providers, it would not take the network down and confirmations are not delayed forever, they are only delayed until they come up again or the network gets forked. If you would understand anything about Obyte, you would also understand that Obyte doesn't have mempool, so even if all Order Providers are down, all your transactions can be considered as confirmed once they have been posted. Only thing yet to be determined is just the order of transactions. Even GUI wallet let's you spend unconfirmed funds because the transactions are already on the network, not in mempool. Blockchain has probabilistic finality, so you can't be sure when your transactions ends up confirmed, but Obyte has deterministic finality without any voting.

But you probably still don't understand this because even if you have managed to teach yourself how blockchains work, your tiny brain can't take in any more information to understand that there is other ways without blockchain cons.


Here are things that by your logic are "network down":
* Nano - when network got spammed, user transactions didn't got confirmed, but spam did. Network down?
* IOTA - when payments were disabled for whole month and only 0-value data transactions went through. Network down?
* Bitcoin - China lost power, 30% hashrate disappeared, blocks weren't mined in every 10 mins on average for 2 weeks.
* Ethereum - Geth follower certain rules, Parity followed other rules, Infura wasn't updated because unannounced hard-fork.

What do you call those networks, that can be re-orged with 51% attack? Network f-ed? Can't happen on Obyte, but happens on blockchains.

Nope, that's not how you stop the network. In order to stop the network, you would need to take out all full nodes.

Where did you get the number 15 from? There is 12 Order Providers needed for every transaction and as long as there are at least 7 of them are posting their own transactions, all previous transactions can become stable. There is no blocks, so if for short while, too many of them stopped, network keeps running and new transactions get distributed, just the confirmations are delayed.

There are 7 Order Providers who are not the founder, so Obyte has been fully decentralized and doesn't have a single point of failure since July 2020. You have no proof where founder's 6 Order Providers run, you just made it up.

Maybe shut up about things you don't understand.

Unable to reproduce it.
Do you mean installing the 64bit setup file or do you mean building it from the source?

On whose shoulders should the momentum be then? Obyte Foundation creates the software and publishes the news, it's up to the community to make it heard.
One man or small group of people can only do very little, a community on the other hand, could make a lot of noise, if they wanted.
Bitcointalk, luckily, removes lot of the spam and tonych uses Bitcointalk mostly to dump news (you can see it from his latests posts).
I sometimes post to combat FUD. Silence would be better because then FUD wouldn't bury the news.



Didn't we have news, that we take bids for raising the funds to get listed on good exchanges? Even feedback from those people was that they would buy more GBYTE if would raise more to get on bigger exchanges. We just haven't raised enough so it would align with the expectations of how much good exchanges ask. Meanwhile, everyone is pretty happy to ape into unfinished projects that promise to fix their sh1t by the end of the year (they postpone the goal post every year).

There wasn't much wrong with Byteball brand and there isn't anything wrong with Obyte brand either. Any brand can be marketed, it's all up to the community if they do it or not.

If you look other communities, they have users who take the news that their project publishes and they speead the news, they discuss the news, they compare it with other project. You come here, in Obyte, you just get wall of pessimism.

Obyte has given all the tools and content for you to market it, so do it, don't just FUD it all the time (FUDing your own bag is stupid). And if you think you are marketing genius, apply for a job https://obyte.org/careers

It's up to the community and Order Providers (Witnesses) to decide. Anybody can put up their candidacy, community can signal the Order Providers (by changing their OP list) who they want to replace and if they do it coordinated way (that they all replace the same old OP with same new OP) then it's only Order Providers, who have the last say and they have pledged to change their list when better candidate comes around.

You can still buy V1 tokens from trade page.
You can buy with GBYTE from front-page and from trade page.
https://ostable.org/buy page is now external tokens only and all buys go through.

Fork the website and revert it, if you don't like that change.