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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 01, 2020, 04:05:42 AM
Don't mention the volumes and all exchanges which delisted Bytball and then already rebranded Obyte.

Which exchanges delisted? I know only Changelly swapping site and Cryptopia, which delisted themselves from crypto by getting hacked (probably through some other random wallet that they didn't containerize - rookie mistake). Now GBYTE is on SimpleSwap (ostable.org/buy also uses it) and StealthEX for swapping with other altcoins.
There was also Cryptofacil exchange, but they didn't delist GBYTE, they closed themselves down.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: [Guide]How to bet on Obyte platform. on: October 01, 2020, 02:25:44 AM
Sorry,  I didn't even know that some gamblers don’t have any idea of Obyte platform otherwise  me would open this thread much earlier. I can  assure you platform itself and the betting bot particularly  are trustworthy. I used this  bot for betting in the span of  two years, nearly,  and everything always happened  without a hitch, it's damnably steezy.

I don't even know Obyte platform, too. Lately, I have been into sports betting in some particular gambling. And I am searching the teams before betting. If i known this platform exists, I'll be able to acquire some wins as all my parlays and bet teams were failed.

The odds are changing every now and then right? Can we used this bot in mobile, too?

Odds change sometimes, depends how often the bet makers check for the odds at other markets. I don't think bet makers enter the odds manually, even that they could - too much manual work.

The chatbot works as mobile app and desktop. https://obyte.org/#download
The website works on mobile too https://bb-odds.herokuapp.com/
Just have to have the wallet app installed and website open on same device.
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 28, 2020, 04:09:57 AM
wrote an easy step-by-step guide how to farm (don't explain that to your grandpa, he'll think you've lost your mind):

Getting Bonded coins:
* go to https://ostable.org/trade/26XAPPPTTYRIOSYNCUV3NS2H57X5LZLJ#buy
* add you single-address wallet address to top-right corner
* mark "Set token1 amount to minimize fees" checked
* enter amount to "Amount of tokens2"
* check if the GBYTE amount on "Send" button is acceptable and click it

Once you have got your growth tokens and interest tokens confirmed
* go to https://ostable.org/trade/26XAPPPTTYRIOSYNCUV3NS2H57X5LZLJ#deposits
* click "Open Deposit" and enter half of the amount of interest tokens you have and press "Open"
* add little bit of protection to your deposit, so it would not get closed so easily (optional)

Last step is for earning trading fees:
* go to https://oswap.io/#/add-liquidity-2/AR3SHS7SFH3PF6ZM6UIF7HWIV44TZ46H
* add interest token to the pool
* add stablecoin to the pool

... and then just wait and watch your growth token value grow and sometimes fall, but mostly grow
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 25, 2020, 02:56:24 PM
I have just opened a new thread devoted to yield farming on Obyte platform to share my 3-hrs experience with it. My goal was to show all steps needed to open deposit and earn money using ostable tool. Anyone who has interest in this is more than welcomed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277729.0

There could be only one occasion when u can open multiple threads pertaining to the same coin. You do this when ur brain is gone from the skull completely or is imbued with perverted thoughts. Thats when your consciousness takes over and sends internal message to the associative zone in your brain to do random stuff. I would say that nothing can be done to revive obyte or make it anyhow relevant to a common investor or whoever is watching ithe forum at present time. Obyte is done and in fact its gone long time ago.

Can you read? They are totally different coins on same network, it's like calling DAI/MKR a same coin as ETH.

This is not about GBYTE, it's about GRD, IUSD, OUSD, GRB, IBIT, OBIT, GRAU, IAU, OAU.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 23, 2020, 06:15:35 PM
If you want to make them earn interest, you need to deposit them back to AA via Deposits tab.

That's only if you want to have OUSD and earn interest in OUSD - the truly stable token that is always 1 USD and doesn't accrue interest.

Another option is just holding IUSD. Interest is baked-in in it its price, which grows 16% p.a.

Assuming that IUSD has liquidity to be traded at fair value. Why would anybody want OUSD, if they could use IUSD alone?
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 23, 2020, 01:53:55 PM
I'm a big fan of Obyte, follow the development from the very beginning but only yesterday learned of both ostable and odex services. Why so bad ads? At least both deserves separate threads here on bitcointalk. Stablecoins is a hot topic nowadays. Regarding odex, would be nice to have  the option to become the liquidity provider for this DEX, the option similar to that one realized in smart contracts of Uiniswap. Anything in Obyte  development to indicate as to whether it makes steps in this direction?
Bonded Coins on https://ostable.org/ was just released yesterday, so you couldn't know about before because it was just released, that domain was previously used for Discount Stablecoins, which is now moved there https://discount.ostable.org/

Anybody can add liquidity to https://odex.ooo/ or https://oswap.io/ already today.

IMO, article with long  math is good for tech savvy guys but ordinary ppl need simple words sounded on all media including youtube channels.
The content on https://ostable.org/ is made for ordinary people, the blog post is more like white-paper.

And finally the last questions. If buy IUSD on ostable.org where my stablecoins will be holding? In Obyte wallets or where? How to claim the interest earned? Definitely a good and easy to understand guide is needed.
If you buy GRD and IUSD from there https://ostable.org/trade/26XAPPPTTYRIOSYNCUV3NS2H57X5LZLJ#buy or just IUSD from there https://ostable.org/buy then the AA (or smart-contract in Ethereum world) will send them to your wallet. If you want to make them earn interest, you need to deposit them back to AA via Deposits tab.
If you are buying GRD and IUSD then there is also option "Immediately convert to stable token OUSD", which will automatically deposit the IUSD for you and give GRD and OUSD instead.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 11, 2020, 06:58:46 AM
just remembering the predecessor of Obyte, namely Byteball, you can see that the latter had serious problems with bandwidth in the working network. I wonder how the situation is at the moment with Obyte. Therefore, I am interested in this question

Obyte is Byteball, it was just a rebranded, rest of the project is same, just improved a lot since mainnet launch (works now even on IoT devices).
It didn't have and still doesn't have problems with bandwidth, it hardly ever reached even 1% of bandwidth that it could actually do.

The difference between then and now is that now Obyte has Autonomous Agents and thanks to that can do Payment Channels, which decreases the need to have small payments on mainnet even more and it even makes these streaming payments almost free (only paying fees for opening/closing the channel).
https://github.com/byteball/aa-channels-lib

Not sure where do you get this bandwidth problem, do you mean the stress test that spammed mainnet in 2018 with hundreds of transactions that all got confirmed at once or you mean the incorrectly done DAGbench test with IOTA and Nano that couldn't even get 1TPS out of Obyte because they were using light obyte.js library for web?

Aha, so that's what happened to Byteball. Byteball / Obyte is a pretty old and good project. I hope the developers keep on working on the project into the future.

https://medium.com/obyte/byteball-rebrand-the-next-step-to-real-world-adoption-6a0a924390de
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 10, 2020, 12:46:41 PM
just remembering the predecessor of Obyte, namely Byteball, you can see that the latter had serious problems with bandwidth in the working network. I wonder how the situation is at the moment with Obyte. Therefore, I am interested in this question

Obyte is Byteball, it was just a rebranded, rest of the project is same, just improved a lot since mainnet launch (works now even on IoT devices).
It didn't have and still doesn't have problems with bandwidth, it hardly ever reached even 1% of bandwidth that it could actually do.

The difference between then and now is that now Obyte has Autonomous Agents and thanks to that can do Payment Channels, which decreases the need to have small payments on mainnet even more and it even makes these streaming payments almost free (only paying fees for opening/closing the channel).
https://github.com/byteball/aa-channels-lib

Not sure where do you get this bandwidth problem, do you mean the stress test that spammed mainnet in 2018 with hundreds of transactions that all got confirmed at once or you mean the incorrectly done DAGbench test with IOTA and Nano that couldn't even get 1TPS out of Obyte because they were using light obyte.js library for web?
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 09, 2020, 11:43:59 AM
Then what is the advantage of this method of sending transactions? The ordered grid allows fast communication to nodes across the network and gives a speed of 1000tps

There is no block producers (miners), everyone with a full node can add a transaction directly to DAG and you don't have to bribe miners to include your transaction to block. Transactions are linked to each other, no linked blocks and no reorgs of already confirmed transactions.

You can read more about it there https://medium.com/obyte/dag/home

for example, the TERA blockchain does not have a commission for sending transactions.

please tell me what bandwidth Obyte gives

Well, that's great that it doesn't have fees, but why would anybody value those coins if they are not needed for anything? Their value is only based on speculation? You sure it's not security token? Obyte Bytes are not security token, they have real utility, you need them to make transactions on Obyte.

I think you didn't read the link I posted or you didn't understand it because you only care about TPS. Obyte is not blockchain, so it doesn't have blockchain problems and it can do more TPS on mainnet that there is demand. Even more bandwidth can be done using payment channels (already possible) or with sidechains (soon).

Amount of basic payments TPS is meaningless measurement, everybody measures it differently and payments are just one type of messages that can be stored on Obyte DAG - there are many other possibilities that many blockchains can't do.
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 04, 2020, 11:14:51 AM
Then what is the advantage of this method of sending transactions? The ordered grid allows fast communication to nodes across the network and gives a speed of 1000tps

There is no block producers (miners), everyone with a full node can add a transaction directly to DAG and you don't have to bribe miners to include your transaction to block. Transactions are linked to each other, no linked blocks and no reorgs of already confirmed transactions.

You can read more about it there https://medium.com/obyte/dag/home
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 04, 2020, 08:55:40 AM


Read the benefits of running Obyte full node #DAG (Directed Acyclic Graph) by one of the lead developers @tarmo888: https://twitter.com/tarmo888/status/1293336265446903813


Hi! Why complicate the way nodes communicate with each other? An ordered communication method is the best way to build a stable blockchain architecture.




It's not a graph of nodes communication, but graph of transactions. The transactions are not put into blocks, transactions have DAG structure. Obyte doesn't use blockchain.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 19, 2020, 09:06:50 AM
Dear community, I launched a crowdfunding project named “404monster” on MOO platform, 404monster is designed as a google chrome extension which enables common users to save valuable text to the DAG network of Obyte.


I'm afraid if implemented  the DAG network will be flooded with the garbage messages. Does Obyte really need that? I don't think so. I  would advise you to challenge something else, DeFi for example. Ethereum  had gotten high kudos for that, recently. Why wouldn’t Obyte do the same.

I agree about the garbage, Obyte DAG doesn't need it and garbage shouldn't need to be decentralized and timestamped either.

It's a community project and community funded (not a project by Obyte Foundation), but Obyte Foundation and rest of the community already do DeFi:
https://ostable.org/
https://tokens.ooo/
https://odex.ooo/
https://oswap.io/
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 13, 2020, 09:21:18 AM
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The Champions League⚽️ is restarting and you can bet on it with Sports Betting Bot!




Thought I’d try out this bot and got a bet Manchester City FC vs Real Madrid CF. The contract itself is easy to understand as it is written  with the use of human readable language. Let's see what happens next... when I win (or lose? who knows).

Cool, cool bot should say.  I have tried it three  times,  betting on European clubs in Champions League, one bet lost but two wins. Is there any statistics on how many users use this bot to bet on various sport events?

There is no live stats as far as I know, but there is API endpoint for last 100 bets https://github.com/Papabyte/betting-bot-API/blob/master/COMMANDS.md#getlastbets

There was also some stats posted 2 years ago when there was Soccer World Cup, but i think the usage is lower now.
https://steemit.com/byteball/@papabyte/byteball-sports-betting-bot-statistics
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 31, 2020, 09:18:07 PM

Supposedly I have ByteBall if I can find/get the wallet to work. (dubious)
but confused....on the whole Mbyte, etc vs Gbyte and now Obyte what the stuff is actually worth
Gbyte on www.cointracker.io has it at $29.16 or some such
I have (supposedly if the wallet is correct...bookmarked) this address BSUPMTW5TZVI2G2A6HUTG5AUCAKM4YJL
and of course, if the wallet still exists someplace on backup Sad
with supposed bytes whatever the heck that means
how do I convert this to Gbytes?

So confused. Sad

Thanks

Brad


used this calculator? Is this correct? https://convertlive.com/u/convert/bytes/to/gigabytes#118100186390
109.99 Obytes? or approximately according to coinbase today https://www.coinmarketcap.com/currencies/obyte/
as of this momennt $29.16 x 109.99 Obytes = $3,207.31 usd?

Damn. Wonder if I can find the frigging dat file and or wallet on backup.
If not just another 'boat' that sailed away w/o in the great crypto race of trying to catch a boat and missing it (per usual)
thanks in advance

Brad



The project is called Obyte.
The currency is called Obyte Bytes or just Bytes.
Exchanges list price for wholesale amounts and the ticker is GBYTE.
1 gigabyte is 1 000 000 000 bytes. byte (smallest unit), kilobyte (10^3 bytes), megabyte (10^6 bytes), gigabyte (10^9 bytes) are like SI units, 1000 times the previous.
So, 118 100 186 390 bytes is 118.100186390 gigabytes, but BSUPMTW5TZVI2G2A6HUTG5AUCAKM4YJL has 18 100 186 390 bytes, so that's more like 18.100186390 GBYTE

Bitcoin has it even more confusing:
Project is Bitcoin, currency is Bitcoin, ticker is BTC or XBT.
1 Bitcoin is 100 000 000 satoshis (smallest unit on mainnet, LN goes smaller) and nobody actually knows what units are between largest and smallest.
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 28, 2020, 04:42:24 PM
I remember there was a  cash-back initiative for merchants who accept obyte as a means of payments for the goods they offer. Anyone knows is that still working? Where can I find the list of those merchants?

Asking officials,  now Mastercard invites cryptocurrency related companies to cooperate on the card issuing matter. Does Obyte challenge this?

There is still cashback distribution method, according to the published 2020 monthly statement, 300GB was paid out in March and 300GB in June.
I think most stores with cashback are in Milan, Italy https://obyte.org/milan/
There was some mobile-minutes sellers in Africa and China too, but I am not sure if they are still active after the limits were applied to them.
The instructions how to become one and even a mobile app can be found there https://developer.obyte.org/merchants
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 21, 2020, 07:14:41 PM
When you say there is a limit on unspent outputs, what exactly does that mean? As I mentioned above, the only transactions are when I receive the WCG payments and is at most once a day if not every couple of days. Sometimes it takes up to 4 days to get the award.

I meant, there is a limit of how many inputs (MAX_INPUTS_PER_PAYMENT_MESSAGE) and outputs (MAX_OUTPUTS_PER_PAYMENT_MESSAGE) can be in one transaction. I double checked that it's 128, so if you have rewards set each day for year then all of these unspent outputs doesn't fit into a new transaction. But that should give different error message too, which is odd.

I would try to sent half of the amount to other wallet (you can create multiple wallets within app), if that didn't work, half of that. If it did work, then try full amount again. You could try to send to same wallet too, but I am not sure if that will fix the problem.

Can you join Obyte Discord server and ask further support from #helpdesk channel? https://obyte.org/discord
Using that invite link gives me a message saying that I have been banned. No idea why.

We sometimes we get waves of spam, maybe yours got accidentally banned with others. What's your name on Discord?
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 21, 2020, 06:04:32 PM
When you say there is a limit on unspent outputs, what exactly does that mean? As I mentioned above, the only transactions are when I receive the WCG payments and is at most once a day if not every couple of days. Sometimes it takes up to 4 days to get the award.

I meant, there is a limit of how many inputs (MAX_INPUTS_PER_PAYMENT_MESSAGE) and outputs (MAX_OUTPUTS_PER_PAYMENT_MESSAGE) can be in one transaction. I double checked that it's 128, so if you have rewards set each day for year then all of these unspent outputs doesn't fit into a new transaction. But that should give different error message too, which is odd.

I would try to sent half of the amount to other wallet (you can create multiple wallets within app), if that didn't work, half of that. If it did work, then try full amount again. You could try to send to same wallet too, but I am not sure if that will fix the problem.

Can you join Obyte Discord server and ask further support from #helpdesk channel? https://obyte.org/discord
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 21, 2020, 03:12:45 PM
This has probably been mentioned several times in the past, but I am not finding good and organized information that covers it clearly. When I try to send a payment in the wallet, I keep getting the message that I don't have enough spendable funds. My wallet consists of the rewards from running WCG. When I look in my history transactions, they all state that they are confirmed in the finality. How can I check in the wallet what my actual spendable amount is exactly? I did try transferring a much smaller amount and it went through. However, trying to send the bulk of it gives me the error. I'm sure if I clicked send all minus fees it would work, but a friend of mine saw that it didn't send all of his balance in one transaction.So, I'm assuming there is still something not fully spendable that isn't blatantly clear in the wallet. Can someone shine some light on how the wallet behaves and how to find your actual spendable amount?

Are you talking about the bytes or WCGpoints? Because WCGpoints are not transferable, they are like gratitude tokens, which other bots can use to determine your status or discount.

You should be able to send out all the bytes in your wallet, just make sure your Order Providers (Witness) list is up to date because if it can't find a suitable parent for your transaction then it can't spend these funds either, but that usually gives different error.
There is also a limit of unspent outputs it can use at once (120), so maybe you have so many incoming payments that it can't send out all at once, try to consolidate smaller batches into different wallet and then send all from there.
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 20, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
I've been a fan of Obyte for over 3 years now, and it surely is one of the most interesting projects out there.
However, I still have doubts about its resilience. It should be government-resistant.
What would happen if a government would sent 12 agents to take care of the 12 Order Providers simulaneously? Could it bring down the network and maybe rewrite the history of the DAG?
I hope not, but I'd need to hear a convincing answer on why not. It's a question that deserves an answer.

Obyte is tyrannic government resistant, which means that unless all governments suddenly agree on something, there is no danger. The breaking point is actually 6-7 Order Providers, not 12 because if you take 6 out then there is no longer majority. If they take out 7 then they have the majority.
Getting all the governments suddenly co-operate with each other and agree on something like that is quite far fetched, especially when there is nothing illegal in what the full nodes are doing. Today, we no longer have majority of Order Proviers in one jurisdiction, so Obyte doesn't have a single-point failure https://stats.obyte.org/witnesses.php

If 6 governments indeed get simultaneously agents to knock on doors of 6 Order Providers then which judges are going to sign that? These 6 people should all have to be breaking some law for the agents to break in. So, Obyte is not in danger if one of the governments loses it's mind or one of the Order Providers is accused in something criminal. Running a full node is not criminal, posting transactions on cryptocurrency platform is not criminal either. Order Providers don't decide whose transaction is valid or not, the whole network does. Bitcoin is protected against same thing - multiple governments going mad, but Bitcoin miners actually decide whose transactions get confirmed, Obyte Order Providers doesn't. https://medium.com/obyte/from-blockchain-to-dag-getting-rid-of-middlemen-28afa7563545

In terms of what will happen if government seizes the machines, if it's even located in the same place as the Order Provider himself - the worst thing they can do is shut the machines down because if there is no majority of Order Providers posting anymore, no new transactions will get stable (confirmed). People could still post new transactions, but the part of the DAG with unstable transactions will not become stable. They could also modify the code and post transactions out of order, but that would just signal everyone that Order Provider is acting bad. They can't change the history, that's blockchain feature, not Obyte's.

If they somehow would get hands on majority of Order Providers (7) and make those post transactions out of order then that would just break the whole network and the community would need to hard-fork.

There is more about exact this thing on Obyte blog https://medium.com/obyte/dag-vs-blockchain-6d2d99f10bd9
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 05, 2020, 04:00:32 PM
Wallet update:
Version 3.2.0 released.
This is a mandatory upgrade that fixes a bug in transaction size calculation that could allow sending data for free.

Both full and light nodes need to upgrade.
All headless nodes need to npm update to update to the latest core version and restart.
The updated version is scheduled to be activated at MCI 5530000 which is expected around July 18. This is the deadline for the upgrade.

Also in this release:
- improved translations
- added human readable display of some smart contract clauses used by PolloPollo

https://github.com/byteball/obyte-gui-wallet/releases


thanks, I have light Win 10 client and upgraded it  after downloading the .exe file from github. Yeah, it is digitally signed but why it is not accompanied by the hash sum? Sometimes the file may be corrupted even in the course of download  and that thing every time  bothering me.

Isn't the idea of digitally signing something that it also verifies that the file is a whole and not modified some way? Only thing that isn't digitally signed is the AppImage for Linux, which has a hash written down on release notes. All the digitally signed ones should warn you automatically if the file is corrupted or modified, so what good will an extra hash do? What's the point of additional hashes if verifying the executables is already built-into the OS.

Also, if you get tricked into downloading from fake Github, what would stop the fake Github from having fake hashes too? What you should look for instead is that the installer is signed by verified publisher: Byteball Foundation
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