I meant putting doubts on the table must not happen. I am strong POS supporter. But keep in mind that this transition is very, very complicated. So we are not into position to demand POS. And if you ask me we are not into position to demand anything. If it can happen, it will be good. If not, other suggestions will be welcome. After all we are just brainstorming here. I now saw that Alphi involved the word "greed" into one of his posts, so let me put my point of view. I am mining from zero hour (day one). When we were at 8-11 litoshi I was buying, because I wanted to support Karma and this was my part. At 73 litoshi I didn`t sell. You will not see my coins on the market when the price is 73 satoshi also. I was ready to give big part of my wallet to someone who was able to push Karma on Mintpal. The coin should flow, not stay in several hands. Many coins in one hand is really bad for itself. Most people do not understand it, but it is true. When it flows into stupid hands though, we see sell walls, which is worst. By holding some coins I see my part of preventing downtrend inspired by such dumb morons, that are undermining our biggest goal - Karmashare. So this is not greed. It is a common sense.

P.S. I`ve lied about not selling at any price. I will have to sell some at 500 satoshi, so kosmost can go on a nice vacation, as I have promised.

Binding Karma POS with future price is the same as not deciding what to do. This is strong negative signal to the markets. It is the same as saying "OK, maybe we will try". Personally, I prefer what Yoda said "No, try not. Do or do not. There is no try". Do not bind going to POS with future price. It is a huge mistake. If you decide not to go POS, OK, say we shall not POS. Or we will do it. It is really confusing for everyone, when there is announcement for going to POS, and then we are reading that it may not happen if price is X. This must not happen.

So, on 11 June or so we shall be able to see this addresses here http://karmashares.com/explorer-v01?

I see a debate is going on about switching to POS. Mahatma Gandhi says "An ounce of practice is worth more than tons of preaching". I am saying that if somebody continue to do what he is doing, he will continue to achieve what he is achieving. Act now. There is a lot of preaching to do or do not. To that I say -  In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is. We are not in the era of Bitcoin anymore. I don`t understand why this is not clear to somebody. The times when we where mining with cards in plastic crates into basements are over. Gone. The rules are different. Things just have to change way more faster. No coin has 4-6 years like Bitcoin. Now is a matter of days, weeks and in worst case scenario - months. The coin with less than 10GHs network can not be visible. Why are you continuing to insist that POW should continue? The big idea is to develop big doing good corporation by Karmashares. This is my perception of Karma. And believe me, this guy kosmost can do it. He just can. I don`t care if somebody share this opinion. Meanwhile, it is imperative for Karma to be visible. And this can only be achieved through constant changes. We should not be afraid of changes, this is what the leaders do. We don`t need to invent something to raise Karma, just do little constant innovations with short term clear and visible results. And innovation is very simple thing - to add the missing to already existing, in order to send it into the area of success. POS is just one of the missing things that we need to add. I am sure that it is not the last. Don`t be afraid of the change, embrace it.

So, the answer to the question:

"Can I Become a Shareholder Without Exchanging Coins?" - Of course. Starting around May 11 if you keep 10,000,000 coins in your wallet for 30+ days you'll automatically be eligible for membership. (In fact, we'll put you down as a shareholder even if you forget to notify us.) The exact date this will begin will be posted to this website (http://karmashares.com/).

Is between 14 and 28 July. Or am I missing something.

Dedicated multipool is an option with POS also. We have discussed this topic before, but with no POS on horizon.

No, I am not. We are talking about short and mid term, not long term real value. No one will invest 6000-7000 fiat to push Karma if POS question is not cleared out.


P.S. I just saw that in previous post I`ve written by mistake long and mid term

Karmashares did it`s job. It is time for POS on 51-52 bill and push for BTC market. We voted for it and I think we should do it, if possible. No need for waiting anymore. Different signals to the markets are no good in long and mid term.

7,965,624,430.63 coins out for shares. Not bad mr. kosmost, not bad at all. Karma corporation is still growing rapidly. I am surprised that so much Karma still exist for trading on exchanges. When search engine lill come into production, the price will meet world snooker champion name - The Rockeeeeet.

Each coin on Cryptsy has info link. On the Karma info link old logo appears https://www.cryptsy.com/currencies/view/146. Please send request to Cryptsy to change it.

I mean, to stick your nice videos on first page of this thread, if community agree.

On the front page of Mintpal ordering is no more done by overall volume. It is done by BTC volume. So, consider again to push for BTC market. LTC market will still be here for low investments in shares and etc.

Guys, if somebody here is maintaining Karmacoin account on Facebook, please change to Karma and promote Karmashares. Google + also.

I don`t mind anymore about the day to day trade. Yes, it is good to have some value increase today, but maybe tomorrow the price will decrease. After all, this is a free market. Good news IMO are short term driver. Middle and long term value is based on vision, clear and achievable goals, strategy, team, leadership, skills and community. All of that will result in innovation. The dev team has it all. Let`s help them to build the community. This is important not only for long term value increase, but for spreading rapidly the good news that you are talking about. And the hype will come, so the day to day price will rise constantly. More people to buy, the more value increase. And remember, don`t hold or dump to much coins, invest them in shares. Don`t follow pumpers and dumpers, because this is only helping them, not you.

Good job with the new wallet. Well done! About the shares, after 2 or 3 months when this company grow strong, many people will remember how they could make their lifetime income and missed it. Then I will offer them for selling a hard wall, so they can crash their heads into it.

Almost everyone of the cryptocoins creators (intentionally I don`t use the word devs) does not understand how to make things happen. They don`t have clear mission, they don`t have the vision, they don`t have clear goals, they don`t know how to create corporate, business and functional strategy in order to achieve their goals and fulfill their mission. They don`t have skills, technical, technology and scientific knowledge, just pure luck. Karmacoin (shares) has it all. About the kosmost, cryptowho, ShawnLeary, Delaforetnoire I will just quote Andrew Carnegie:

The average person puts only 25% of his energy and ability into his work. The world takes off its hat to those who put in more than 50% of their capacity, and stands on its head for those few and far between souls who devote 100%.

And for the rest of us, I would say that we should never forget what is the main purpose of Karmacoin. And here are another wise words from Carnegie:

I resolved to stop accumulating and begin the infinitely more serious and difficult task of wise distribution.

kosmost
cryptowho
Delaforetnoire
ShawnLeary

If I knew what you are dealing with, I would never do some posts that I`ve did. Now is all coming back to me and many things now have their explanations. You are awesome. This coin will be given for incredible successful example in crypto world for years. Karmashares are the new era in crypto world and believe me, many will follow. And to be leader in something like this is happening once in a lifetime. And you made it real. So, be proud of yourselves and keep up the good work.

Great work on this new thread. Thank you.

This is the response:

Bter Support (bter)
Apr 22 12:01

Dear Sir,
Thanks for your recommendation

Thanks

This is the answer for my proposal to re add Karma to BTC pairing:

"Hello,

Thanks for the suggestion, we are continuing to monitor the LTC market.

Regards,
Jay
​MintPal"

I guess we are around 300 already. Let`s give them some pressure and show them that this is Karmaaaaaaaa!