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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 on: October 06, 2014, 07:49:27 PM

i never had issues, and i withdrawed a coin 10 mins ago from there, so this is just FUD
Not FUD but Thanks.  It means withdrawal works I just need to rattle supports cage enough to get thier attention.
Thanks again

We had strong support from xhash net into the past. They were responding very fast. They were updating Karma info on their site in the matter of 5-10 minutes. Try to contact them again if you already did. Personally, I am happy with them at 100%. When I want to contact them, I am logging and then > Account > Support. Never tried IRC or Twitter.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 on: October 02, 2014, 10:51:56 AM
I guess now all smart people will learn valuable lesson why they should not keep their coins on exchanges. Since the moment Mintpal announced their maintenance and the front end went down, the price of KARMA have spiked with 50% on Cryptsy, because of the lack of selling pressure. Once again - KEEP YOUR COINS IN YOUR WALLETS. For security and to help increasing the price.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: WELCOME to nhzKARM ASSET come join our movement forward to good economy on: October 02, 2014, 10:45:16 AM


No, got no moderator's rights...maybe I should have posted somewhere else?

I have access to some accounts, but I will let WHO handle that for the moment. What do you think is this a helpful project or not??


-east

No, here is fine. Bitcointalk is the most visited crypto site as far as I know.

I am not sure yet. It is definitely good to see some movement though.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 10:31:50 PM
Mintpal frontend end is also down for a 24 hours planned maintenance.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes on: October 01, 2014, 10:25:58 PM
Hahahaha, lol, really?!?  Is this guy still trying?  Huh I admit it, he doesn`t understand what is the meaning of failure and the word NO.  Grin

I think its pretty clear what the little D wants to do if he gets control of Karma...

Quote
Do A Bit of Good’s Executive Director said, "Unlike most of the other so called 'Alt Coins' Givecoin was designed first and foremost for the benefit of others. Karmically that just feels good.”

http://www.pr.com/press-release/559444

if you look at the givecoin thread you will see that it is dead, the community is gone and who knows if it will ever come back.

IMO the little D wants to substitute Karma for givecoin.
this will mean reducing the total number of coins, switching to a new blockchain, implementing PoS and distributing the coins more "evenly".

in other words he likely wants to copy startjoin's coin Startcoin where everyone on the old blockchain was forced to switch over to the new chain and claim their coins within 30 days or get completely screwed. This also includes anyone who happens to be on an exchange that doesn't switch over in time (read up on StartCoin its nasty)... He will also most likely premine a whole bunch of coins too and force people to sign up to his website to get "free" coins.

this is why he does not purchase coins on the open market or actively participate in the community building projects.

this is the conclusion that I have come to based upon the things he has said and his prior involvement with givecoin and startjoin.

just my opinion of course, since nobody can predict the future, but its seems pretty obvious to me what he wants.

to the little D man.. I would just like to say.. fix Givecoin first.. make that community rich, generous and happy.. if you do that then you have proven your worth and everyone from karma will beg you to come back and fix Karma too.. until then you are just going round and round in circles and pissing in the wind. Grin


It is not his obvious and ill intentions to Karma that surprise me. It is his incomprehension that at least 10 people here have researched him very, very well, not only based on the publicly online available resources. If you want my advice - use the ignore option. We know each other and it is pretty obvious that he won`t get what he wants. We also know that if he had the resources, knowledge and funding, he will start a new coin. More successful than Give or whatever, lol. Community (coin holders if you ask him) and Trademark in USA is what he is after. I am saying USA, cause only really stupid person can go for CTM application by the OHIM rules. It is only 900 Euro, but it is not giving to anyone the rights over the Trademark in all of the 28 EU countries. If someone wants a trademark in EU, he should know that it will be reaaaally expensive adventure and it will take at least a year. And at the end maybe it will not work. So only both, the combination of the coin holders and the Trademark in USA are what he is after.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 08:23:11 PM
Some suggestions about OP:
1. Remove this big red "ATTENTION: MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE" from OP. And maybe everything before the embedded youtube video.
2. Remove everything between "Mark your calendars" and Karma logo.
3. Remove "Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143).
4. Reopen the "News" section and add to it "nhzKARM Asset" news with direct link to the other thread.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes on: October 01, 2014, 08:12:57 PM
I totally agree with you most of the time -- it's just that your thin-skinned nature just makes you look like a hypocrite.  Between your viper-tongue and your wounded-soldier routine, seriously are you bi-polar?  And from what others have been telling me about you in private posts, I'm not the only one who's noticed.

Personally, and this is probably going to come as a complete surprise to most of you, I could care less if you LIKE me.  What matters more is whether or not I can competently execute.  Management and structure is not a popularity contest -- show me where that has served anyone's long term interests in the real world.

I'm sorry if I'm not a sycophantic cheer leader.  I'm trying to bring an unbiased outside perspective to your actual dire situation.  I'm not going to sugar coat anything.
Wow, that first paragraph was your excuse for saying stupid shit about my family, because you wanted to sound smart? My mother has been dead for 25 years so let's try again. Your excuse was to attack me and call me bipolar? I think you need to step back take a deep breath and stop whatever you think you are doing right, because you are not.

The most spectacular thing you say is that the only thing you try to bring to the table is "unbiased outside perspective".

BOOT UP YOUR SERVICES AND please keep your personal criticism of other people people out of this thread.. Also stop insinuating you are going to steal KARM.

Hahahaha, lol, really?!?  Is this guy still trying?  Huh I admit it, he doesn`t understand what is the meaning of failure and the word NO.  Grin
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: WELCOME to nhzKARM ASSET come join our movement forward to good economy on: October 01, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Is it possible for you to contact Ryan, so he can post this at Karmawire? Also, is it possible to post it on our OP - News section? And Post it on our coin wiki?

P.S. I am done with tweeting and Facebook, but I am not posting on Reddit, cause I don`t think I should announce it. Do you have access, so you can update there too?

P.S.2 Are you able to moderate this thread, cause we had enough bad Karma in our original thread?
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
some tiny good news: karma added to new projectX  : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791338.0

After speaking to dev of this new project X he agreed to add karmacoin. his intention is to lunch his coin with roughly 100 coins all in one multiwallet. please take some time to understand how his project will work.



"tiny" you say? Grin But I do share some of the Alphi`s concerns. First, let`s see what will happen.
179th place for Karma?!? Relax. It is alphabetical order. Our coin is №1. Wink
It is good thought exchanges are out of the equation.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 04:38:51 PM
the thing is, as much as i do want reverse split, i care about karmanians and as long as there is  %30 who don't want it then so be it. this is a major move so we do not need %51 of the people we should get all of them on board.

Since reverse split is still a no go, then most of our effort and resources should go grow our user base. We need to be able to grow like dogecoin to sustains this many coins. it can be done if we brainstorm and create strategic marketing to create this user base.

The other option would have been to market to unbanked but this is much harder project.

Shouldn't it be easy to spread this coin ?  it is a good coin. tons of people love it. We're wasting time proving this coins worth to people who question it.

I am not saying all opinions should not be taken into account. I am saying that all major changes to all major coins were made without having the total support of the community. For some things we won`t reach agreement. First of all, I don`t think that ATM the reverse split will guarantee our place on the BTC market. Only trading will. 0.2 BTC worth of Karma - 20 mill for one week once in a month. If there is no such trading it won`t matter if we have or not a reverse split. 60 mill coins out there, total of 92 mill after many years + the side chain with let`s say 10-20 mill coins will make difference. I am not thinking about the reverse split as an one time independent event. I am trying to look at the whole ecosystem and the future events in Karma. And this is making me to think that the reverse split will do good. But at the end it is not predictable. It is just pure intuition. And I still hold to the opinion that such move should not be made with seeking the community backup. We will need maybe 2 years to reach dogecoin and this is only if Karma is going straight. Unfortunately for the last six months there were two big obstacles.  Grin This is why I have said that Karma should stick to it`s technical nature and try to seek technical innovations and side projects.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Karma is still the greatest coin out there. Many people doesn`t understand that here we are only prattling and no smart person should make drama out of it. So buy now at these levels of price while you still can. Learn from the previous spikes. Many people bought at 140s level and didn`t bought at 50-60-70-80 levels. Then others bought at 250 levels, while they could do it on 120 levels. Smarten up people. The winter is coming. Don`t miss to fuel your engines with Karma.  Wink
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 04:03:22 PM
The math unfortunately doesn't add up for the number of Karma coins.  

The market cap of 62B coins at 10 satoshi is 6200 Bitcoins.  6200 BTC at $400 is $2,480,000.00   How many Litecoin/Dogecoin/Bitcoin clones have a market cap above $1M?  How many coins out there survive in the single satoshi range?  

The only way out was, and still is, a 10:1 reverse split, and better yet a 100:1 reverse split or greater.

The attempt by Kosmost to reverse engineer Karma into a crypto-equity was brilliant IMO.  The legality of which was in that gray area, especially after some more recent rulings.  Proof of Coin concept came from him and bitwho.  We all gave 110% for Karma and if you care to read the old threads you would see that.

Again, the math isn't there unless you build value.  That value has to come from either a huge community based, such that Doge has, or adopt a technology that attracts the crypto masses to come and hold coin for the long term.  NO ONE wants to buy a single satoshi coin and watch a few ticks go by and be at a 50% loss.  This is the the unfortunate part of the math that won't go away unless the number of coins is reduced.

You need an entirely new fork, less coins.  My plan to try and unite with NXT fell on deaf ears.  All you are left with now is a fucking great name.  Karma is and always will be a great name.

Good luck.

Shawn

+1, except for the NXT part. I am for the KarmX side chain.

I have always voted for 1/1000 reverse split. 92 million coins is the best IMO. I was really surprised why this wasn`t implemented with the X11 fork. Maybe even the best time was before the reinstating of the BTC market. Now we are trading almost only on LTC market. I am trying to predict what will happen if we make a reverse split. I fear that the volume on the LTC market will drop significantly due to psychological effect of the reverse split. It is one thing to trade satoshi for a thousand Karma, but it is totally different when you are buying thousand times less Karma for your LTC. I am not saying this is bad, I am saying it is not predictable. But I am sure of one thing - such reverse split must be done or not, WITHOUT total community agreement and support. There will be always people for and against with strong arguments. But my perception on this matter is that this is a change to the core of Karma and only the Dev (technical owner of Karma) should take the shot to go or not go with this change. No one else. I would be far more comfortable if the technical owner is an experienced and impassioned coder who is very, very familiar with the coin core development, but I guess we can`t find such person. So it is, what it is. Actually, if we find such person, I am sure we can develop a fund of nearly 1 billion, yes billion, to keep him here. Of course not only for pure development, but for meeting certain goals. I would give 50 and why not 100 mill to such fund. And I am sure, others will follow.
IMO, the path was clearly stated in the past and I don`t see why it should not be followed. IF POSSIBLE, start with the reverse split, then develop KarmX, then time warps and automatic checkpoints if not available already, then Android and iOS wallets, then ask kosmost if he is willing to let us know if it is possible to bring back lill and what will cost US in BTC to continue until full integration with Karma, then eyeQ development, so Karma can have strong mobile presence.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: A True Vulgarian...your mum must be proud of you on: October 01, 2014, 03:21:05 PM


Yes from the "Gee" and other spiteful comments-duek comes this. Let me tell you what I told others. If you are the perpetrator of bad behavoir you are really not the one to tell others to stop this behaviour. It's psychology 101.

I'm treating you the way you clearly want to be treated.  It's called THE PLATINUM RULE.  I'm not telling you to stop -- by all means continue to act like a petty little tyrant.  Doesn't matter to me.  You don't strike me as someone who is not very happy with his lot in life anyway.

.... Did you really fuck off all the way back to here so soon?

Do you really kiss your mother with that mouth?




Anyway...

You are trying to take over the name of the coin that is all you want and you come off very aggressive. Ego ego ego. I don't think you realise what karma is...



This is what I am talking about all the time. But initially he started to do it in a polite way. And doesn`t even realize that we are provoking him at all the time, so we can see his REAL plans. He thinks, he is the only one with 15+ corporate experience, knowledge and education here. And even doesn`t understand how silly and transparent to us are his intentions. But let`s put all this $h17 aside. By knowing most of you, I am sure we all can smell a weasel from hundreds of miles. Karma is an open source project. This is the best part of any crypto currency. NO, Karma doesn`t need clear structure. Well, this is not entirely true, cause no project can become real if some sort of networking structure come to place. And this is what East is trying to do. But it will not be some kind of traditional functional, divisional or matrix structure with coordinated, balanced or secondary matrix. And NO, Karma doesn`t need guidance, it needs vision. But vision is a talent only few have. And NO, Karma doesn`t need management, it needs leaders. Mng are administrating, leaders are innovating. Mng are copies, leaders are unique. Mng are supporting, leaders are developing. Mng are depending on control, leaders instills and earns confidence. And so on and so on. These are things that everybody here knows and anyone can read in a public library for a dollar. Just have to open a book written by Stogdill, Yukl, Sigismund, Veber, Bird, Kaes, etc. And at the end this bul$h17 won`t matter, cause real world business rules does not apply here. No one, and I mean no one is here, because he/she wants a snapshot of his real life projected in crypto world. Crypto is made with dreams, trust, dose of naivety and many, many excitement. Everyone, who comes to crypto, should start trying to go beyond his own thinking pattern and not trying to assume that only 11 years dumb and pimpled teenagers are here. Maybe, there are different people. And maybe every single word and behavior is well thought and precise in a matter of timing. And maybe not a single event or conversation doesn`t happen to be an accidental.
If someone wants to do something, no one is stopping anybody to do it. IT IS AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT. And Karma is NOT a charity coin. It is a coin for profit, while trying to build good economy. And no one has any obligations at all to do anything and no one should feel ashamed about it. 95% of coin holders doesn`t know how many coins they have and doesn`t know the amount of their coins. So no one here have the right to take himself too seriously, cause he/she does not represent even a fraction of the whole Karma society.

ACG, this is not a direct reply to you. I just wrote it, cause dvd is in my ignore list.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: October 01, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
Let's just pick ONE post and try to highlight some of the weird stuff you are saying thelittleduke...

Uhm?  Duh?  Did I not say it was a simple clone?  It was meant to demonstrate what we can do even if we do not have the current teams help.

And once again, what exactly is stopping you to create service for Karma?

The thing I wrestle with is how to avoid rewarding bad behavior. Its why I'm not at all interested in buying what you're selling today because honestly I do not think it has any utility for me. I don't feel compelled to show any kind of fidelity or any grand gestures to impress this current crowd.  The ideas and prior track record alone should suffice for my credentials.

The truth is there is really NOTHING preventing us from doing our own thing, creating a KARMA2 and letting the market decide.

You seem to think that what you have is precious and rare and unique.  

We do not all hold to that belief.
Again no need to create a new coin. You can use the current "infrastructure" to build on. Nothing bad will happen, the sky will not fall but you will gain the trust of the community members. Why do you seem hellbent on controlling this coin before you even launch a single service for it?

Please launch a karma-related site before you start stealing the infrastructure (and yes stealing someone's html and posting it as your own is just passive aggressive behaviour that hints about your motives and how you conduct business,)


Karma needs to be free and in more than just the top 100 holders hands.

I think you'll find once you stop demonizing people and look at the mutual interests instead of the positions you'll see we're closer than you might think.

Yes from the "Gee" and other spiteful comments-duek comes this. Let me tell you what I told others. If you are the perpetrator of bad behavoir you are really not the one to tell others to stop this behaviour. It's psychology 101.

.... Did you really fuck off all the way back to here so soon?

I suppose it was a well guided and structured @#$@. So, why are you surprised?  Grin
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: September 29, 2014, 10:10:11 PM
NO. Thanks. My conversation with you is over. Good luck with your future attempts to telling whoever you want what he needs...
It is clear to me that you are devious person with bad intentions to our beautiful coin and trademark. I guess it is also clear to other members, but they are too polite to tell you this openly. Guess what. I have needed only 5-6 posts to find out what you are trying to do. And I didn`t need STRUCTURE and GUIDANCE. Keep them to yourself. Again, good luck with your future projects outside KARMA.

Fine by me -- but you're welcome to engage me anytime!

Based on the number of private conversations with other thoughtful members of the community who are appreciative of my transparency I'll just take your latest missive with a grain of salt.

Please -- enlighten all of us, me especially what my "bad intentions" are?

Because I've been very clear and consistent from the start.

Karma needs:

1. A purpose other than amusing miners and traders
2. A larger economy that includes people in the real world
3. A transparent home, ideally a non-profit subject to the rigors of disclosure with named individuals
4. Stability and continuity of core systems and a team dedicated to executing
5. Resources -- we have offered to do API development and fund bounties

Which part of that is DEVIOUS?

Because what it looks like to me is that you enjoy being addicted to the false promises of frauds and shills who pretend to be a fellow-sufferer in order to exploit your bias for earning an ROI on your time and investment.

What you should be terrified of if anything is someone like Andre and Perica getting sick and tired of your "all tent and no circus" arm-waving and dump their what?  5B Karma on the market?   What do you think would happen if suddenly your "institutional investors" like them decided to get out quick?  How long do you think your "beautiful coin" would survive the minute it gets kicked off the exchanges?

You think long and hard about that...and then decide who is the bigger threat to Karma...

-dvd


Nothing is stopping you to do 1,2,3,4,5. You have no reason to call somebody fraud or anything else like this about any of the current members of the dev team. It is not mine or anybody else problem that someone is stupid enough to not recognize what kosmost did for this coin. What bitwho and East, AGC, KarmaKaguy and Alphi did and are still trying to do now. No one is capable to reach kosmost. No one. You and all others MUST be clear about one thing: all of us can be match to kosmost only in our dreams. His vision and productivity you can`t achieve in 10 lives. Why should somebody trust you and handover the Karma core and Trademark to you if you are no match to the dedication, vision and devotion that kosmost, bitwho and East have to Karma? It is a simple question. Answer it. The only thing I hardly regret is that kosmost didn`t heard his mind, but have listened to his heart when he was taking his decision to step back, because of 6-7 stupid people here that have made of themselves judges to a extraordinary person like him. They threw their bags of $h17 and disappeared. And now what? Nothing. Also, it is now that I understand that other dev team members have judged him too quick. And this is where it all started to go down. And I am sure they know it.
As for the Andre and Perica. I am not aware what they have stated in private conversations. But ask me if I care. Terrified? Ohhh mummy, something is wrong on the Internet. Anonymous guy on some forum is telling me that he will throw his tokens somewhere. Should we start looking for a new planet to live?
Why should anybody care if someone dump 5 bill on the market? How do you know that someone else is not holding 15-20 bill? Mhm? Anyone, who is closely related to Karma and is following it from the beginning can`t say that. There will be good volume I suppose. And possibilities for many of us to get to cheap coins, especially when Litecoin is so cheap ATM and November is coming. There are rules on the exchanges how a coin can be removed. It is not for you or any other Karma holder to decide that. Karma will survive without any of us. So stop pretending to be the only possible choice and spreading FUD while you are saying that we should stop waiting for some messiah. Karma is healthy and trading. If you want to contribute and take part of it, then go ahead. Buy coins and try to increase price and value if you can. I have participated in Karmashares at 10x. I had also enough coins. I have sold the Karmashare wallet before the disbanding of Karmashares with a perfect ROI - 50x and also sold the other coins before the big dump. Then I have returned and start buying and selling and I will continue to do it until stability is reached again. So, if you think you will scare somebody here with these dumping parables, then please, go ahead. We love the chaos on the markets. It was the first and the main reason why we are all here. Don`t forget it. But I am sure you know that. You 20 years of experience in BUSINESS is helping you to understand it...

And don`t reply to me anymore. You are in my ignore list now. You are only the third person there. Good for you.  Grin
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: September 29, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Please, stop to assume that only 13-14 year bunch of teenagers are here. There are enough MBA`s, coders, marketers and artists here. Excitement and involvement is what we are missing.

I'm not assuming a specific age range -- but emotional maturity displayed by some certainly suggests it??

If you REALLY had all that talent here we would not be having this conversation would we?

What you need is STRUCTURE and GUIDANCE and some STABILITY.

Kos, we all know you have waited way too long to handover, but if my request (begging) matters to you, please don`t give anything to DVD.

I'm not "asking for a gift" -- I'm offering compensation and a legitimate, fully transparent host for the project.

What Karma becomes is largely up to you!  

But lets decide it in a manner similar to BIP.

-dvd

FWIW: I registered karmatag.org back in 2009 / way before this coinbase even existed...

NO. Thanks. My conversation with you is over. Good luck with your future attempts to telling whoever you want what he needs...
It is clear to me that you are devious person with bad intentions to our beautiful coin and trademark. I guess it is also clear to other members, but they are too polite to tell you this openly. Guess what. I have needed only 5-6 posts to find out what you are trying to do. And I didn`t need STRUCTURE and GUIDANCE. Keep them to yourself. Again, good luck with your future projects outside KARMA.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: September 29, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
Kos, we all know you have waited way too long to handover, but if my request (begging) matters to you, please don`t give anything to DVD.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karma /₭/ NEW! X11 + Time Warp + More (pg.140) SIDECHAIN+ (pg. 143) on: September 29, 2014, 07:19:40 PM
DVD, it was not the intention to personally attack you that drive me to ask any of the questions above. Sorry if it sounds like this. I`ve asked you about your leadership skills after I have read your linkedin profile. Frankly, linkedin profiles doesn`t mean anything to smart people, since they don`t know the people that gave you their recommendations. If you see mine profile, you will thing that I am HIM ^, but I am not.
It was not clear what are your intentions about Karma. That is all. In this moment I have the feeling that you just want to take over the good coin and the trademark. Basically to hijack Karma. And you are trying to do it in a polite way. Sorry, but it won`t happen. This is a behavior of someone, who is underestimating Karma community. Please, stop to assume that only 13-14 year bunch of teenagers are here. There are enough MBA`s, coders, marketers and artists here. Excitement and involvement is what we are missing.
Good luck with KARMA 2, since you have no clear and good intentions about our coin.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Transparency? Trust is based on INTENT and COMPETENCE on: September 29, 2014, 04:33:32 PM


In the mean time, my offer to move central services and wallet development into the non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation is still on the table.  You're not going to get any greater transparency than you will find in an IRS-990 form (google it if you need to know what that is)

That's the minimum TRIAGE to set a new foundation.  The coin still needs a PURPOSE and a CONSUMER if you want it to have a strategic value and on-going UTILITY.

-David

Can you do this without the permission of current devs? I think otherwise Karma is not going any where..

In theory, other than the issue surrounding the legitimacy of the USPTO Trademark (actually it appears to be a Service Mark designation) -- I think it's possible.  See what we did with:

http://karmarewards.me

Over the weekend...

Look familiar?  (It should as long as one trusts the completeness of wget -m )

It's just a raw clone, no edits on underlying links yet...

It would be in the communities better interest of course if there was at least an explicit if not tacit secession of power/control/transfer by the current "team" -- if even that means a simple public declaration of support.

The critical components of the core services IMHO are the checkpointing servers.  Everything else can run fully de-coupled.  I would ask that Andre & Perica step up to share hosting/replication responsibilities with us.  

I would propose that we establish a VPN between Strength in Numbers infrastructure and theirs in order to build a stronger Web of Trust.

-dvd



This is just another website. Not much of a service and I don`t see the value for Karma. But maybe I am wrong.
Tell me please, what kind of lessons have you learned from Give coin failure? And how do you intend to not make the same mistakes with Karma? Why do you think GC failed?
What do you think is the most important thing for Karma? Building community or something else? And please, this time don`t quote old marketing books. To some people you sound too naive.
Karma has its purpose and consumers. It lacks core services, good marketing (communication, not building value). It also lost its good side - being good and honest to each other (which includes not trying to hijack something). The most important thing is to build community, followers, believers, not CONSUMERS.
You know, leaders are born that way and can develop their leadership skills until they reach 25 years. After that it is impossible. Are you a leader? Do you have leadership skills? Can you make people follow you? Can you influence people?
And once again, what exactly is stopping you to create service for Karma?
I hope my questions are not too difficult to answer. From time to time I am asking such questions in order to build my opinion. And one more thing - being transparent as a person and/or organization doesn`t bring any value. Nobody cares if you are a person, organization, which is your country of residence, etc. All that matters is the results. Also, do not assume that someone who is declaring his holdings is the bigger Karma stakeholder.

P.S. By knowing kosmost (despite only virtually), I am sure no matter what (all of the insulting, trolling, etc), he will not give any service to anyone who is not having his heart lying with Karma. Keep this in mind.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Transparency? Trust is based on INTENT and COMPETENCE on: September 29, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
Let's look at the facts here.  Andre, Perica, and I (David) have been 110% transparent with everyone on who we are and what our interest in Karma is.  We have disclosed actual real physical places of business.  

The mysterious Kosmost trail seems to in theory start with a filing in Wyoming, USA -- an address in a office building in Walnut, California and ends at a 3F location in a high rise building in Hong Kong that is evidently under watch for financial impropriety.

As Perica pointed out, none of the other current "team" wants to disclose their true identities.  Pretty hard to build trust I agree.

Since Andre & Perica are currently two of the largest stakeholders in the coin, it's fully within their power to elect to go in any direction they want to.  I fully support them and hope to join them in some specific project related work.

In the mean time, my offer to move central services and wallet development into the non-profit Strength in Numbers Foundation is still on the table.  You're not going to get any greater transparency than you will find in an IRS-990 form (google it if you need to know what that is)

That's the minimum TRIAGE to set a new foundation.  The coin still needs a PURPOSE and a CONSUMER if you want it to have a strategic value and on-going UTILITY.

-David

Is it possible for kosmost to live in Hong Kong, but being citizen of USA? And because he wanted the llc to be trustworthy, he established it in USA where SEC is regulating? Do you think if it is possible for someone here to know his real name and exactly who he is? I am not sure about all that, just asking...

Who do you think will be the CONSUMER of Karma? What do you think the PURPOSE of Karma should be?
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