@Everybody: we should define the options that we have to move forward. Please submit your ideas here and we will setup then a voting system and let everybody decide the future of EduCoin.
Some things that we have to discuss:
- Algorithm change?
- PoS/PoW
- Conversion of existing EduCoin to EduCoin 2.0 (Rate)
- Incentives to mining and getting network security (currently non-existent)
Cheers!
Gambel
Hi, I'm not a direct member of your community, however we seek to partner with you in the future. Given that you are considering some changes, I'm suggesting that you consider POR - proof of research, to learn more about it visit Gridcoin. Essentially instead of figuring out random problems, your computer will be working on real life scientific problems. Win-win no more waste. |
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Bob has donated countless hours and bitcoins to help Einsteinium get off the ground.
He is a great member of this forum and I'm blessed to have had the chance to work with him.
Thank you.
In EMC2's infancy Bob worked tirelessly for our cause, after being attacked numerous times by PnD scam artists EMC2 found itself on its death bed. Bob visited us offering conflicting sentiments both condolences and a bit of hope. Today he wrote the following: GUYS, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.
THIS COIN HAS BEEN DEAD FOR MONTHS, ITS NEVER COMING BACK.
EMC2 is under new management, and undergoing a rebirth. We took over 25 days ago, at that time EMC2 had an average market price of 25 sat, today's average market value is 50 sat. So we are very disappointed that Bob would make such a claim. |
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Hey educoin, let's work together? ... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.
Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.
Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.
Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.
That's would be great! I love both and I'm early adopter from first block's. Hey, good to hear from you. Hope you see you involved with both communities too. +1
Working together with coins like Einsteinium sounds like something we could support.
Please make your proposals, and let's see what the community says and most importantly does.
A group of education-centric, or ethical coins, fits our values. We need to extend bitcoin technology beyond financial instruments.
-Edumoto
The primary reason for my initial visit was to invite you or a representative of your coin to the cause coin unity thread I created; however I would be happy to present you with one of very many projects that Einsteinium is willing to lead, co-partner, or as a support partner. Instead of going right to the larger projects like funding a solar panel project via crowdfunding for a school in need, let's do something with existing funds, and within the reach of our respective community's pocket. Let's co-sponsor a youtube channel that focuses on science education. At the start of every new video there is a 5 second message that say "this video is brought to you by Einsteinium and ECUcoin sponsoring science education "... with graphics that show our respective coin logos with some text info about cryptocurrency. Simple, easy, very low budget not much to consider; it will provide some coin exposure, and allows us some 'get to know you' working experience. |
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Sounds interesting, but the dev Rob doesn't really post much here because too many bad actors, he posts in cryptocointalk! Do you have any particular projects or ideas you want to do with Gridcoin?? Hey Gridcoin, let's work together? ... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.
Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.
Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.
Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.
Yes, I see that our respective coins have a definite overlap -- science fairs, let's co-sponsor some science fairs, and we can also provide EMC2 coin and Gridcoin grants to science fair winners. With that project in the hat we could take on more ambitious projects. For clarity, we don't always have to do joint venture, we could also simply be support partners in that we provide comments, endorsements, retweets, etc ... like an extension of your marketing team. The more engaged we are as 'cause coin's the better it is for the target causes, the CC industry as a whole, and our respective coins. |
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... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791247.msg8914146#msg8914146Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project. Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with. Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence. _________________________ One of your coin's supporters asked me to reach out to you to offer our support, as such I'm here. If there are any projects that we can support you with, let us know. We are also looking for project support partners. |
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IDK what they'd say but you may want to get in touch with Mazacoin. Their cause is the sovereignty of Native Americans.
Thanks for the lead, I will make contact with them at their page, however it would be great if they came here to reintroduce themselves to possibly find some additional community leaders to support their cause. This is really a good idea. www.worldaidcoin.org has just started and we seek to implement change in the world via helping people and transforming old tech into gadgets for the 3rd world. We should have a discussion. I like what your coin has to say, hopefully we can do some projects together. You are cordially invited to drop by the Einsteinium page located at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494708.0 and share your message about your coin and what your ambitions, and vision is for your coin and how you see our communities working together to reach mutual goals. |
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Hey educoin, let's work together? ... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.
Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.
Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.
Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.
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Hey Curecoin, let's work together? ... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.
Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.
Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.
Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.
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Hey Gridcoin, let's work together? ... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.
Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.
Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.
Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.
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... ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.
Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.
Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.
Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.
Do you have a 'cause coin' if so what your cause and target project interests?
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http://einsteinium.org/ is not owned or controlled by The Einsteinium Foundation, or Einsteinium (EMC2 - the coin), it is privately owned. We (the new mgmt) are currently reaching out to the owners of http://einsteinium.org/ to ask them to donate the site and or domain to the coin, or to allow the foundation to manage it. We have not received a response to any of our inquires. At this point it is clear to us that they are incommunicado, as such we should consider replacing the site and domain. Please take the opportunity to express your thoughts on the matter, and vote your interest. What do you want us to do: a) use Einsteinium at the end of some free website address and temporarily use that b) use Einsteinium with a different extension: currently available are einsteinium.today, .website, .me, .uk, .rocks, .club, .guru, .email, .tv, .co, .eu, .es c) change name a bit keep org, for example emc2foundation.org or d) other (please elaborate) Votes will be tallied on Friday. This subject elevated in terms of priority because we are reaching out to various individuals and entities (youtube channels and schools regarding sponsorship, coinpayment.net, coin merchant sites, etc ...) for various reasons and have a site need outside of this discussion board, facebook, or other available resources. We will send out messages via facebook, twitter, and other social media however only votes cast in this thread will be counted towards the action.
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Hi all
We require the following services for EMC2:
- Faucet (if anyone knows of one that's working, please post the link so we can add to our ANN post)
- Games (lots of them if possible!)
- Block explorer (we had 3 listed on our ANN post but only 1 site is still up & it seems has ceased recording EMC2 blocks as of a month ago)
We will be providing bounties for the above, which we will add to our ANN post. In the meantime, if any of you would like to make any of the above available (out of the kindness of your heart) we would really appreciate it!
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The following has been added to our original ANN post (under Press & Articles):
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Poloniex Giveaway! - We can do it but we need YOUR help!!
YOU the community have asked for it - We have provided it. As a result of your demand for change, and your support, EMC2 is now under NEW leadership. We have a great team, but we need YOUR support. To publicise EMC2 further, we are looking at the inclusion of EMC2 in the regular Poloniex exchange giveaway. To qualify, we must raise a minimum 150,000 EMC2. We are therefore looking for members of the EMC2 community to make a donation of EMC2, your time, tweets, or reposts in other forums about this cause, to help us raise these funds. Please refer to recent posts for more info & a formal donation address or send to our trust fund! - EKnqTC9XEuucZEhD3miDGnbJxBptcxhByA
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More to follow...
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The official website in undergoing technical difficulties, we will update everyone once we get more informations on the situation.
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Although there are no immediate technical issues with the coin or algorithm, there has been quite a bit of discussion regarding changing EMC2's mining process to better suit our community. The voting will last 5 days and the highest voted algorithm be chosen and implemented as soon as possible. An official announcement will be made on our forum here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494708.0Please contact me directly if you would like more options added to the poll. Thank you. |
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And now please post with the einsteinium account to validate this post, or else, everything just said shall be ignored by everyone. I'm sure you understand why.
As requested. The post is legitimate. |
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No, just no. Scrypt-N is even less efficient then scrypt. It is also not anymore secure then scrypt. There are no advantages going that direction.
There will be an official response from the developers regarding this in detail, with that being said this is my personal response.
In terms of any hashing algorithms being more secure, that is more myth and marketing then fact. In fact some of those present their own problems in terms of both security and the potential for botnets after analysis by our developer. Basically, they present some major security issues. In addition some of these new algorithms are literally hacked together, they seem power efficient because they are not optimized. Good hashing algorithms, which scrypt is one, generally have the same level of security, and the same vulnerabilities. Scrypt is actually a secure algorithm, there is nothing wrong with it, other then a significant amount of irrational FUD around scrypt ASICs that is prolific right now. Despite the fact that many of the scrypt asics have not made an appearance, and will likely be gradually be introduced into einsteinium's network. The reality is the advantage to ASICs, is actually security.
In terms of efficiency, some may be more power efficient in terms of GPU mining, that is not mean they are as efficient as they can be in general, and as I stated before, a few of them present their own problems in terms of security. As it has been pointed out, is ASICs are more efficient then GPUs no matter the algorithm, and there is a point where we will need to transition to that form of mining at some point. With that being said, as predicted, it would be needed at a certain point in our life-cycle, especially considering the halving schedule.
I would also not confuse investors with GPU miners either. The two groups are not necessarily the same. We see no reason to change our algorithm at this point. Essentially, it would just be a gimmick with no real advantage.
With all that being said changing the algorithm, and implementing such a large fork can present significant risks. This could range from outright killing the coin, the loss of previous coins, or something else. Litecoin laid out one, the biggest risk is it presents the risks of essentially creating a new coin and two separate forks. In this way forking the coin with a new hashing algoritm presents is a significant security risk, and one with no guaranteed rewards. Keeping the algorithm as is, ups and downs included, at least insures we will not see those risks that are introduced through a new algorithm change, which is in many ways, a gimmick, and one that can introduce major issues.
It is not likely to happen to fork to a new hashing algorithm.
Praxiscat made a valid point incorporating what we (the dev team) discussed earlier. There is no benefit in changing the algorithm at this time. A fork is more than likely to damage the network and the community through loss of coins - we already have documented reports of lost coins from the previous fork, some from the user fault, others from the exchanges fault - or worse. The market is hype prone and irrational, if we would change the algorithm now, any effect would be temporary and WILL be mitigated the second the next hype worthy coin pops up on the forum.
ASIC FUD is again, irrational, ASICs are currently used on the Bitcoin network, SCrypt is the first algorithm beside SHA-256 to attract the attention of ASIC manufacturers, this is a good thing, it means a company invested thousands of dollars in development of such devices, this also means anything people say about ASIC effects on an alternative digital currency is pure speculation.
Seeing how more and more coins are going non-SCypt, we are actually gaining an advantage, by sticking to SCrypt we are effectively detaching ourselves from a "sea filled with fish" type of market and will enter a more defined market with heavy investors (the companies that invested in developing ASICs and the investors buying their devices).
I'll address the ASIC FUD more detailed now because we feel miners look at them from a pool perspective, a 1 on 1 type of thing. So far, most reactions made us believe miners are looking at ASICs as being alone in a pool with a 100MHs horse, while they are a 5MHs pony, the horse submitting more shares and getting more coins by the pool platform. There are alternatives to this, p2pools being one of them(regression to the mean). Rest assure, the protocol of the network dictates that the same amount of coins will be generated every X seconds despite the individual miner's hashing power.
This being said, if the community needs more explanations related to something, please ask here, me or another foundation member will respond as fast as possible.
I would also like to remind you all that the Einsteinium Foundation activates well beyond the realm of the internet - real world organization - where things are not instant and speed is dictated by the slowest denominator of the system. As much as we would like to offer you news on a daily basis about amazing things we made, it can't happen. We're always dependent on some other organization/institution or company to hold up their part of the deal, and that takes time.
One more thing, we are a foundation, a foundation for science, we try to uphold the highest moral standard we can, we try to use science to make the most educated and rational decisions we can. Replying to trolls is just a waste of energy with no actual gain for the coin or the foundation, it's an irrational act. As members part of this community, and by extension the foundation, please try to uphold the same principles, don't answer to trolls.
The Dev Team wishes you all a good day!(sorry for the color, it was the quickest way to catch your attention) |
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Our official IRC channel has been updated on the OP. This will be our final home for casual discussion so please update your bookmarks: IRC Channel https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/?nick=Einstein|?#einsteiniumfoundationAlso, we've added the MetaNeural Trading Software Platform to the original post, they are offering a 10% discount if you pay using EMC2.  A merchant section will be added to the OP once more partners come on board. |
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Hi, I downloaded latest wallet (in about - it said v0.8.7.1)
but I couldn't make it work properly, it never finish syncing with a network,
I tried with -reindex at least 5-6 times, starts from begining and it always stuck at some point,
right now it stuck at 92821 block, and it don't go from there?
Stormbringer, please try doing the following and let us know if you are still having any problems.Here how I fixed it and got Albert synced up.. #1. Close Albert. #2. Make sure you enable "view hidden folders" if you are in Windows. You can find out how to do that here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/show-hidden-files#show-hidden-files=windows-73#3. Head over to: C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Einsteinium #4. Delete everything you see in the Einsteinium folder *EXCEPT "Wallet.dat". Make sure you keep Wallet.dat safe (and backed up).#5. Open Albert and give it a minute to start syncing. I hope that helps you. Thanks! |
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