Well it is frigging nuts now... LTC difficulty has drop'd what 16% last 2 weeks and shows with 3 days left or so another 16% drop yet price is stable and going up
wtf did everyone decide thanksgving was the cut off date for not running unprofitable 600w gaw 23mh miners or some such?
i started with orig knc titan miner 11/8/15 at 1169 gh ltc hash rate ...last hashrate was 1142 gh wtf?
is it like a 'frogger reboot" the road looks clear but its a trap?
anyway i see nothing on why it is dumping in difficulty...right after halving I'd get this ...3 months late it has me confused
just saying..others on here with more smarts then myself?
One explanation might be that people shut down their miners because they are travelling to their families and donīt want to let them run without being able to montor them. I also do that over xmas, so that might explain a bit of the hashrate drop. |
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As above:
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Oh and the invites to the private shadowmarket alpha are on offer
There will be no functional market till well into 2016 and Ethrreum just made Shadowsend in a few lines of script.
Welcome to November's End
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What a load of bollox
If you read MRL0004 you might understand that you canīt just plugin a ringsig architecture without making it neccesary for everyone to use; Just pointing that out, whatever ETH adds itīs not the same if itīs not mandatory. The reason i point this out is just because thereīs nothing worse in privacy solutions than snakeoil that makes people feel safe when they arenīt. |
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Except that you have no experience in the "cracker scene" because you mentioned yourself you did 3 lousy keygens. The rest of us crackers never left.. we're all right where we were a decade later LOL Bullshit, most people started to work on legitimate stuff. Yates for example, worked for Sony on Safedisc later because he was tired of kids in the scene like you. And most other good people infact retired and stopped caring about this bullshit long ago, most game cracking guys nowadays work for game studios and the only where u see them occasionally is demoparties who all went into shit since pc magazines started to report about them. I watched a buddy of mine get nailed for Carding who was in a PC game cracking group with me
and he was known for cracking but also for hacking world famous web sites Sounds like a guy from .nl .... and as always the morons always cry and whine because they are jealous over my famous reputation. Nah, itīs just because you talk only bullshit without knowing anything. Same reason the whole "scene" went into the shitter. People talked too much about shit they have no idea about and didnīt get the basics of opsec. |
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Why monero was a scam? Will read thread carefully later.
in a nutshell it's because there were some instaminers at early stage akin to nxt, but with a less worse impact than nxt it was not launched so transparently, let's say this That is a plain misinformation, it was never "instamined", the emission curve worked out pretty perfect, due to difficulty adjustments after every block. |
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Why monero was a scam? Will read thread carefully later.
as I said before I dont think XMR is a scam..... maybe a little fishy in its original distribution, but Ill throw Dash and hell almost all other altcoins into that same boat.... cryptonote tech is a very useful anon tech, and monero seems to be one of the best decentralized versions of it. the only reason I pulled out of XMR was because I have been on the other side of their constant badgering, (and not only in VNL, I was a supporter of XMR in its early days, and had dreams of becoming an XMR whale once apon a time), but now am tired of how as a community they have become destructive to bitcointalk and altcoins in general. if you want to get a better read on this topic remove all the usual sockpuppet flamers ie. ignore icebreaker othe, smoothie, vanderi etc the guys who yell scam at anything not ProXMR. there are some good replys from smooth and other XMR supporters though. as per usual though at least half of the stuff in here is nonsense and rhetoric. have fun. Date Registered: September 18, 2015, 06:19:44 Hello Vanillacoin scammer, it has been proofen multiple times that johnconner is a scammer, even gmaxwell called him out. Here he lied again: Author
John Connor Now where have I heard that name on this forum? I skimmed over the white paper. Honestly looks like a lot of hand waving. Perhaps there is something notable in there but if there is I don't see it. Does not appear to be math/proof based...just snippets of code which supposedly "fix" bitcoin's problems. Prove it with math and an actual proof (actual examples) not hand waving. Also... Randomports
Random ports are used as to not advertise to the world that we are operating a cryptographic currency node. And there are no drawbacks to using random ports? I'm pretty sure randomizing the ports between nodes will cause some problems in some ways. This has not been discussed at all that whitepaper. Is this a half-baked whitepaper? I will post the data for everyone. I have code, you have only a bagful of sock puppets with no coding skills. You all make me laugh. Your Scam is coming to a close now and the market confirms this. Good luck in prison.  Thank you for your support. Donīt worry we will call you scammers out as often as itīs needed :-) |
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There was only one line crippled idiot; that was fixed fast. The rest was archived using engineering, like AES hardware implementations, nothing todo with crippling. Every minersoft gets faster and faster, happened on BTC, LTC and DASH etc. https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/3cc45e9324a402aee91e2f46861b2ca393d711aaThe X11 PoW in DASH is still unoptimized but you guys donīt give a fuck about it. Maybe give Wolf0 a bounty and he helps you out. Go on with your lies, dig DASHs scammerhole deeper and deeper  )) WHY ARE YOU NOT RESPONDING TO THE LIE ACCUSATIONS DASH SCAMMER?
because there are no articulable accusations. if so what are they? remember, this is a monero scam thread not a dash thread. please try and stay on topic. Totally ontopic because the DASH SCAMMERS spread lies here over and over :-)) Prolly teamed up with the Bytecoin scammers, scammers are often working together, who would be surprised. |
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WHY ARE YOU NOT RESPONDING TO THE LIE ACCUSATIONS DASH SCAMMER?DASH SCAM EMISSION 
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blalblablabla Cloak blaa, who gives a fuck you said this about monero: the crippled hash things is fixed (right?) and doesn't concern me as it only affected like 2% from what i saw which is super fair in the cryptocoin world.
the only other thing i can think of now is the issue of inflation, 4 years pow if i'm not mistaken?
some have also questioned the pow algo cryptonite because i guess it's new and cryptographically unproven but getting professionally audited at some point?
seems like y'all have a great team working on things and i'll definitely consider putting some btc into your project.
So itīs all perfect or are you lying to yourself once again? What a miserable piece of crap you are :-) reminds me of the monero launch issues and purposely confusing multiple threads started in the wrong place by a admitted scam dev pushing a crippled miner. a dev that is probably still involved but with a new anon nick like smooth or smothie or fluffy, who knows. Shit that never happened, lier. |
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ich glaub die Honks bekommen es nicht hin. vermutlich erst wieder, wenn alle auf den Zug aufspringen  ....ich habe aber JETZT HUNGER!  Hinhaltetaktik, "wir arbeiten dran" heißt auch gerne "da hat mal jemand drüber nachgedacht was man machen müsste". ich versteh nicht, warum sich da nichts tut. Nach dem EuGH Urteil hätte sich doch eig viel mehr tun müssen... Woran liegt das? Kann sich das jemand vorstellen? Zu geringe Verbreitung, zu geringe Verwendung? Bietet einfach keine Vorteile, wahrscheinlich sind die Supportkosten höher als der Gewinn der dadurch ensteht, da Lieferando eh nur 10% oder so pro Bestellung bekommt müssen viele Pizzen bestellt werden um jemanden zu bezahlen der sich mit dem ganzen Kram auskennt... und mal ehrlich wieviele BTC Bestellungen gingen da ingesamt ein? Ich würde mal auf <1000 Schätzen... |
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Here is the best quote from MasterMined hyprocite thanks. after reading anonymints back and forth with you guys i was under the impression that pruning the bc was questionable and he seems to think it can't be done. it way over my head but he does seem to know his stuff. to clarify he did say it's not possible right? i saw the bbr guy pruned or is pruning some stuff but anonymint claims it's not near enough, correct?
i've seen people talk about the transaction provability part several times but forget the specific phrase they used. i'll check into it and get back to you.
so if i send you some xmr for something and you say you did not get it is there a transaction hash on the bc i can point to and prove it?
thanks for your time.
Both AnonyMint and I agree that pruning, in the Bitcoin sense of the term, is not possible with any of the CryptoNote currencies. That does not mean that other reductions in storage aren't possible, but there will always be a need to keep more data than with Bitcoin and its clones. Specifically, the utxoset *and* the key image set is required, and the key image set is unpruneable. The pruning that BBR does is to remove ring signature proofs, a purely linear pruning and one that I am hesitant about from a cryptographic soundness perspective. You get a transaction ID for your transaction, most definitely. Here's a transaction of 335 XMR sent to my Monero address (49VNLa9K5ecJo13bwKYt5HCmA8GkgLwpyFjgGKG6qmp8dqoXww8TKPU2PJaLfAAtoZGgtHfJ1nYY8G2 YaewycB4f72yFT6u) on all 3 block explorers: http://monerochain.info/tx/047c2c11632120f7cd1565c312f94f76135a45f0b2194bbe958826280878fc3dhttp://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/047c2c11632120f7cd1565c312f94f76135a45f0b2194bbe958826280878fc3dhttps://minergate.com/blockchain/mro/transaction/047c2c11632120f7cd1565c312f94f76135a45f0b2194bbe958826280878fc3dAs you can see, there's no way to track where it came from, where it went to, or even ascertain the correct amount. However, the very act of being able to provide the transaction ID to me (coupled with me receiving it) is normally sufficient to prove a transaction, since only the sender and recipient will know the transaction ID and the amount. Of course, this isn't the robust or cryptographically sound way of doing it, which is why we're adding tooling to allow someone to reveal the one-time key (which is different to the transaction ID) for their transaction, and the person (or persons) they send that key to can see the exactly details of their transaction on a blockchain explorer or similar. In other words, this functionality is inherent in the protocol and in each transaction, but we just have to give people the ability to both retrieve this information and for someone else to verify it. great info man, thanks. the one-time key feature will solve the provability problem i've seen brought up but i still can't think of the damn technical name they were using sounds like what bitshares x is doing with a secret key to prove transaction to a third party type escrow. the whole anon scene is very exciting! only other real issues is the bloating and (visa level) scalability that anonymint always talks about. what are y'alls plans to fix that? the crippled hash things is fixed (right?) and doesn't concern me as it only affected like 2% from what i saw which is super fair in the cryptocoin world.
the only other thing i can think of now is the issue of inflation, 4 years pow if i'm not mistaken?
some have also questioned the pow algo cryptonite because i guess it's new and cryptographically unproven but getting professionally audited at some point?
seems like y'all have a great team working on things and i'll definitely consider putting some btc into your project.what's your thoughts on bitshares x anon feature titan? http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/TITANhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDvXZMQNnhEDelegated Proof of Stake - Let's Talk Bitcoin Episode 129 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdBpoRLmrbA&list=WL#t=726a perfect example of GREED FUCKS BRAIN |
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i would personally go with a more generic oldschool TLD like .org or .com.
Alternatively check out .to domains, they donīt give a fuck about the USA and are the only ones who even ignore whois rules from icann.
A bit pricey with 99usd per year tho.
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There is no max total amount, monero will always be mineable. Even in 200 years you can mine monero. Relying on transaction fees does not work. Totally unfair, that people in 500 years can still mine monero, yes totally unfair. //This post contains a bit of irony PS: YOU still ignore the lies you wanted to explain, scammer. Best is the fucking dashocryte said this all right but there must be some ground to this posa from cloak. If is was something useless it would not create a buzz like this I think, also there was a article on cryptocoinsnews although the writer was paid in cloak.. and there a lot of articles on that cryptonews site, but still I dont find anything that proves it don't work and the dev of cloak seems legit.
So why is darsend+ a better solution than posa that apparently was tested positive in the beta testing already? They say that you don't need mn for anonymity..?
lol, ok i'll bite.... I personally won't buy cloak because of the 7 day proof of work instamine. i'm not a big fan of pos rollback coins in general but i do like what bitshares x is doing with the dpos (delegated proof of stake) which can thwart rollbacks and other ppc/nxt pos issues. .... # Cloak instamine == bad dash instamine == good hyprocrisy at itīs best, proudly presented by DASH |
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to try and minimize the cripplemine by using "current coin supply" LOL that you think that is minimizing. We could use the total supply after 200 years like you are doing for Dash in which case the so called cripple mine is more like 1% Shut up Risto! |
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Next one, from the same dude: So masternodes will still be used for mixing? This is a disappointment, I must admit  I don't remember this. I'm just working it out with what we're given. Still, I'd think this would be an excellent solution. No need to wait for blocks, how ever many MNs you have, is essentially the number of rounds. Seems logical to me. Maybe there is another way? I sure hope it won't be something that obscures the blockchain like Monero. I don't like something I can't check on. I did study monero a bit and I don't see an issue with the 'obscure blockchain'... The ring signatures are based on tested crypto, this ensures that all outputs are valid and the network has a mechanism that is double spend proof. The mixing on masternodes is a weak point in my opinion. It is just bad for anonymity. Currently I own 200 DASH and 1000 XMR. Still not sure what to do: *DASH has better market cap and support, but I don't really like the mixing system. Also additional features I think are interesting like instantX I like, although I would like to see some external crypto-expert checking if it's safe and can scale. *XMR has better mixing tech, but I have no clue why the community and market cap seems so small. I also like the stealth addresses... You only need one account. It's better than a HD wallet because change transactions can't be linked. My initial plan to buy a masternode is postponed until I see some external validation of DASH tech and the details of Evolution. If DASH would go sub 0.005 BTC, I'll probably double down on my current position. This will also happen for XMR if it drops below 0.001 BTC. I'll probably bet on both for now. If one or the other clearly becomes the leading anonymous currency, I'll sell the one and buy the other. For me, if I can't figure out where a transaction is, if it's been duplicated, if it's really working. If there is no way to double check it - especially a way I can understand, it's not for me. I don't like the complexity. I seriously don't trust it, and I don't know if someone holds the key to the encryption either. You have to completely trust the person who set the ball in motion. And frankly, that person turned out to be a scammer. Or perhaps they were a government spy network? How can anyone trust it? Why do you have to trust such a centralized point of failure? It's not for me. There is no "key to encryption", you are confusing monero with zerocash. That guy has clearly no idea how Monero works, or Bitcoin in general: 1) there is no "masterkey" for cryptonote, every user generates his own keys, exactly like bitcoin 2) There is a way to doublecheck, everything is on the blockchain, there is no way to create coins out of thin air etc. without directly seeing it! 3) You donīt like the complexity? Itīs all known math, just cleverly combined, you donīt have to trust anyone but maybe you trust gmaxwell aka nullc when he says stuff like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=77654554) As already said, no one set the ball in motion, there is no key for everything like it is in Zerocoin. 5) Government spy network? CN uses Curve25519 from DJB, you canīt get more away from the NSA than DJB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernstein_v._United_States6) You donīt trust persons, you trust the math which has been reviewed multiple times included by bitcoin core devs, if you canīt turst a bitcoin core dev you should leave the cryptocurrency space i guess. 7) There is no centralized point of failure, unlike in DASH. Did you already known the mooneromasterkeys? Lying with purpose or just total stupidity? hard to say. |
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Ok here are two: ~2 months ( XMR "cripple mine" ~7% of the current supply + spend $250k in mining costs) vs 1-2 days ( DASH to instamine 33% of the total current Dash supply + ~$1000 in cloud mining etc for 2 days) Yes Monero is such a "scam". well at least you admit the monero 7% cripplemine scam. DASH had a 10% instamine distribution bug but it turned out to be a feature. to try and minimize the cripplemine by using "current coin supply" is scammy and dishonest considering the highly hype inflationary monero emission curve where half the coins have already been mined in less than a year and a half, now that's what i call a instamine. if it wasn't for the DASH instamine bug then there would only be like 4 million DASH right now compared to the current 10 million plus monero instamine.  and monero was launched months after DASH!
OR HAI SCAMMER, you have been caught LYING AGAIN in the DASHTHREAD.Is this coin absolutely and fully anonymous ? which one is best ? Monero or Dash ? what are the advantages and disadvantages of each one ?
As far as I can tell, DASH has less anonymity than Monero because DASH mixes in masternodes.
if nobody can deanonymize DASH what difference does it make? that's like entering a tank in a NASCAR race and thinking it's going to win because the tank is more resistant to crashes. the trade off is a non legacy compliant unscalable already bloated blockchain, the little extra anon (pre evolution) is not worth the huge trade off. plus the lack of any real anonymity has not hurt bitcoin's market-cap as of yet. As long as the mixing isn't decentralized at protocol level (as promised), this will be the case.
by that strict interpretation aren't all cryptocoins centralized? if dash was centralized one person could deanonymize dash or push a button and shut it down, that's not the case. On the other hand, DASH offers way more than only anonymity and has at the moment a better exposure.
So I decided to invest in both and watch it play out for the moment.
the market agrees. i expect monero to keep getting pushed down until a year from now it will be lucky to be in the top 20. if a solid zerocash implementation is released then it's lights out for monero/cryptonote. just ask fluffypony, he'll tell you that and he is fully expecting it happen at some point.  monero just has too many issues and is way to risky for me to invest in. i just picked up two new masternodes and did not even consider monero, ethereum looks pretty interesting though so i may diversify a bit into that. Mastermined is spreading lies again with out of context screenshots, nice job, i hope the other dashers are proud to have someone like you, clearly shows what the dash community is about. You think you are good at twisting words, but you are just a miserably little lying scumbag. Oh so great to even use a 241 day old discussion you started with spreading shit on reddit, you sir are a true internet hero and the more you speak the more shady looks all this dash stuff, so letīs speak a bit more here :-) Hereīs the full text, everyone can read it themselves here: https://m.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/301r4e/crypto_primitive_shorter_than_current_monero_ring/"if a solid zerocash implementation is released then it's lights out for monero/cryptonote. just ask fluffypony, he'll tell you that and he is fully expecting it happen at some point. " - in fact he said the opposite. 
Here are some more lies from your fellow community member the MasterMined710 Scammer....
lastly, monero was launched about 3 months after DASH yet it already has almost twice the amount of coins mined. seems like a highly inflationary ongoing instamine that gives an unfair advantage to those early miners.
my conclusion, there has never been a coin with a perfect launch including bitcoin.
There's perfect, there's scam, and everything in between. Monero is a helluva lot closer to perfect than DASH/Darkcoin/Xcoin could every hope to be. You can look on the block explorer and see the amount of coins emitted at any block. For instance, by block 20000 ( http://moneroblocks.eu/search/20000 ), mined on May 1st, the total number of emitted coins was about 350k or about 3.5% of the total coins that exist today. So, 3.5% of the coins that exist were mined during the period of the crippled miner when a few folks (such as DGA, who is not a member of the development team) were mining with optimized miners. Around May 1st the optimized miner was made public by NoodleDoodle and other members of the actual dev-team that took over the coin from TFT. Compare that with DASH, where around 1/3 of the coins that exist today were mined in the first 48 hours or so, and I think it's pretty plain to see which coin had the more fair launch. (This is not to mention the fact that there was zero windows clients and a promise to relaunch made by the Xcoin developer, while hundreds of AWS and DO nodes mined away). 33% of available coins mined in 2 days, or 3% of available coins mined in a few weeks - I don't think it's much of a comparison. (This is also not to mention the fact that DASH/Darkcoin/Xcoin switched to a quasi-PoS system after their botched launch, allowing large holders to just sit on their coins and grow them, which is obviously not the case for Monero, which is pure PoW, where owning a chunk of coin doesn't allow one to do anything but dump it on an exchange.) Top post jwinterm. Facts, not FUD. Thank you for digging this post up. Mastermined can now come back and try to spin things to death about the "scam" that has happened with Monero when clearly Dash is no saint and in fact likely is the equivalent of the devil's favorite demon coin with shady launches, broken PoW algorithm, rebranding to distance itself from its shady past, and the addition of quasi-PoS system etc.. Why you all compare monero to dash? This tread is about monero scam. Because this thread is done by the dashtarded scam army who have exposed multiple times of scamming and lying here, for example: Vitalik just posted in /r/ethereum -- Guess who's now in the firing line now for being low tech'  (Thats what you get for calling Monero a 'real premine sacm').   Never mind. It's all in a good cause (we hope). Mudpies on stun and chickenwire at the ready. Hey fucktard, why donīt you show the world the whole discussion? Because it doesnīt fit your fucktarded dash scam propaganda?  Or what about this one?  Dashtards, even too stupid to lie; unbelieveable.... Eat shit scumbags.
7) There is no centralized point of failure, unlike in DASH.
and what is the centralized point of failure in DASH? surly you are not talking about the decentralized masternode network. Evan Duffield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factorRipping text out of context and faking screenshots, cutting off sentences from the rest of the discussions etc. A usual distraction tactic of scammers. |
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lol yeah totally Re: I'm Gary Le, co-founder of Moneta, the world's first implementation of Zerocoin. AMA
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@Gary, It has been over 5 days and you have not answered questions relating directly to your own project.
So much for being transparent and people taking you seriously.
You show up for an ASK ME ANYTHING, answer some questions then run away...
Great show of trust when asking others to trust you and your team with a ZEROCOIN implementation. funny enough that it would kill XMR but not DASH, but yeah i agree, dash has nothing todo with privacy anymore. |
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There was never a wall of text lier; just 3 screenshots you are not able to read it seems, because you donīt want to, lier.
No need to step down, itīs fun to expose the dash scam lie marketing tactics.
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Clinging to the idea that a year and a half is instant, or in any way comparable to a day and half, is just crazy. Seek help.
around half the monero coin supply has already been mined in a very short period of time compared to btc, ltc, DASH, Etc, etc, etc. you can call it a instamine or a fastmine or whatever, just don't call it fair distribution. One big difference- "the community" of dash voted to not relaunch a coin with some starting "issues" and then voted to cut supply to 25% what it was first launched with. The monero community decide to go the opposite path- to not break the social contract and not change emmision. i have not seen anyone complain about a social contract being broken. if the community (early on) voted to change the social contract and everyone was cool with that then i don't see the issue. if anyone disagreed they were free to dump their coins and move on. no harm, no foul. if they try to change something now then yes that would be a problem. at least you acknowledge the unfair monero emission issue. they could have fixed it early on but it's too late now, the damage is already done. they should just relaunch with a fair emission curve and non crippled miner. Lol theres nothing unfair at all, DASH didnīt vote at all, it was the fuhrer Eddufield to decide it, like always. Why donīt u respond to the layed out lies scammer? |
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