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101  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I must have hit pirate's nerve in #BTCST lol on: August 20, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
Has pirate leaked any identifying information by connecting to IRC? IP address - either a proxy or ISP? username?

ip address to ID someone is stupid and dangerous.

An IP address by itself may not be enough, but it is evidence.
102  Other / Off-topic / Re: Has anybody start to locate pirateat40? on: August 20, 2012, 11:01:23 PM
What makes your proof of identity any better than Pirate's?  His name, face, birthdate, and location are all known by me and others who invested.  I know you are a Russian in the UK named Vladimir and that is it.  Don't give me any shit about being well known because pirate is too, just by a different clique.  I don't know any of your contacts.  But I didn't insult your business until I gave you money and was disappointed.

Pirate may be known to you (this has not been demonstrated), but not to the other stakeholders in bitcoin. His actions may very well affect those not associated with his scam.

Vladimir is also not running a massive ponzi scam, so your comparison is feeble.


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At this point deposits are closed, so you're not saving anyone anymore.

Deterrence. Not to mention justice. If scammers think they can get away without consequence, they'll continue scamming.
103  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Pirate paying back investors within a week OR two? on: August 20, 2012, 10:55:42 PM
I give pirate more credit than some young dumbass that trusts a public proxy. If he setup gpumax I can comfortably say he's way smarter than I am when comes to technology and even I have the ability to never be found via IP. Maybe I'm spoiled by city wide free wifi and about 50 open networks in range on my wireless card. But the main point is witchhunt based on IP is dangerous if he was using some open network or that cracker site I mentioned, as some innocent will end up dead.

Doesn't mean one shouldn't try. It's another data point.
104  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I must have hit pirate's nerve in #BTCST lol on: August 20, 2012, 10:13:30 PM
Has pirate leaked any identifying information by connecting to IRC? IP address - either a proxy or ISP? username?
105  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Pirate paying back investors within a week OR two? on: August 20, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
Bitcoin-otc:
[2012-08-17 16:17:57] <pirateat40> Azelphur, personally. BST is over 500k BTC
Pirate was identified with both Nickserv and gribble.

Does the IRC server log ip addresses? What other information may be logged?
106  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 17, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
If anyone is certain pirate is running a ponzi and wants to bet BTC100,000+ against him, PM me.  I have an idea.  You must be willing to risk large amounts of BTC.

I hope the idea is "Pay 6% until Pirate collapses" to lure away enough Pirate capital to break him.


All Ponzi schemes eventually collapse. Interesting how quiet it's gotten lately.
107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Killer App: High Yield Investments on: August 16, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
Good advice that I expect will be widely ignored: only invest in what you know.

So-called high yield investments are (almost?) always dressed-up Ponzi schemes. If you "invest" in them then please lick your wounds quietly when they implode. And if you're one of the lucky few who make money on them, don't expect me to admire your investing wisdom, any more than I'd admire the number-picking brilliance of a lottery winner.


Good to see Gaven's quote unearthed and featured:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3243200/bitcoin-ponzi-schemes-savings-and-trust
108  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Password Hashing and Storage on: August 16, 2012, 02:43:16 PM
http://www.troyhunt.com/2012/06/our-password-hashing-has-no-clothes.html

A good outline of why website password schemes often fail to protect users and what developers can do to fix things.

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Let’s take a quick step back before talking about what’s wrong with the hashing algorithms of today. The problem that cryptographic storage of passwords is trying to address is to limit the potential damage of unintended disclosure of passwords in storage. Now of course all the good upstream security practices such as mitigating against SQL injection vulnerabilities and protecting your backups still apply, this is about what happens once things go really, really wrong.

It's a bit .NET-centric, but the lessons apply to any framework.
109  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 15, 2012, 06:39:12 PM

The volume at the margin moves faster than the bulk of holdings. A garden hose can move more water than a 4" pipe if there's enough of a pressure difference between the two.

[...]

Even with the ability to move the market, there's still a potential for reduced supply or complete stoppage of the flow. In that situation, guarding against complete failure can be accomplished by having a steady, alternate source of flow. It may not be able to supply the volume of the main operation, but it can pick up some slack.


So what you're saying is...

Pirate's ponzi is like a series of tubes!



http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-12-2006/headlines---internet
110  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 15, 2012, 01:13:59 AM
Anybody got a street address for Pirate the Midland, Texas check-bouncer?
111  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Mybitcointrade.com | High Interest 2.5%-5%/w | 20% on Bonds| AAA- |Since 07/2011 on: August 15, 2012, 01:11:47 AM
Joel, I don't know about you, but I know I feel better knowing that ZiggiStar (completely integrated in their team) has a AAA- rating from that paragon of honesty and integrity, PatrickHarnett!

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We also want to announce, that up from next month ZiggiStar will be completely integrated in our team and projects. Besides this, we're happy that ZiggiStar got an AAA- rating from PatrickHarnett in following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81542.0


Honestly, it's stunning to me that you've found people stupid enough to fall for this. My hat is off to you sir.


You must be joking. These hucksters have found the mother lode of marks.
112  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 11:31:31 PM

heads i win.  tails you lose.


There is also the small matter of federal prison.
113  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
by "we" clipse meant us, not you
by "ponzi party" psy meant you, not us

 Cheesy

As I said, your unimaginative response it predictably telling.


Late to the ponzi party, are we?

At least you're openly admitting it now.


Still would be interesting to see these advocates of transparency provide the information that they themselves assert is publicly available.

Are you from this planet? The only person late is you, with all the times people posted his identity in these type of threads before.
Scream PONZI a little more.

No need. Your contributions have not been helping your cause. I've caught you stealth-deleting a few posts already. Maybe your colleagues will continue to encourage you to post a bit less.


How charming. Passing bad checks in Texas... is this warrant still out on the alleged pirate?
114  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 10:17:13 PM
nice try on the post rollbacks  Grin
115  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Midland... same as GW...
116  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?
Why do you need to know his name? I assume you aren't invested.
Apart from that its not for anyone else to give out anyones details

I'm not the one who brought up pirate's identity. But since Clipse did bring it up, it is interesting to the audience here.


Late to the ponzi party, are we?

At least you're openly admitting it now.


Still would be interesting to see these advocates of transparency provide the information that they themselves assert is publicly available. Either you will or you won't, but the hesitation and defensive stance is telling.
117  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 09:01:40 PM
Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?
118  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 14, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.
119  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 13, 2012, 04:14:49 PM
Ridicule is the best way to deal with the ridiculous.  Wink
Supporting Micon and the facts around Micon clearly shows you being part of his scammery just as the Micon corner tries to place those who dont bend over for them regarding BTCST except we have no track record of wrong-doing punk.

I'm sorry. This sentence is difficult for me to read. Try not to write while you're angry.

If you're suggesting that I play poker, rest assured I only play "cut-throat" bridge.

I would hang on a street corner or back alley with any of them faster than I would with you.

Of this there can be no doubt.
120  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 13, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
Ridicule is the best way to deal with the ridiculous.  Wink
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