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1241  Other / Meta / Re: Dismal Level of Discourse on: April 13, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
Now, I am not criticizing the kids, this is all part of their learning process. Also, there are very bright ones out there. But most of them are just adding noise.
Plus they won't get off my lawn!

I have also become more exasperated, there is not much enriching information being posted here (and the search function doesn't work correctly to show refreshing old search results), nor is there much point in posting to an audience who didn't bother searching for obvious sources, or who's response to the information they pretend to seek is TL;DR. The kind of people who think that the stuff they don't know how to do is easy to do.

I think that like the Internet itself (which was great before all those AOLers...), you will see segmentation between content creators and content consumers in Bitcoin media. We will cordon off the latter's banal exchanges (e.g. youtube comments) in a way that doesn't distract from the thoughtful word. The question is whether to keep rearranging deck chairs in this forum.

On the positive side, I think we are at the saturation point of conspiracy survivalists here (you know who you are), and will see more mainstream users joining.
1242  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: GuiMiner doesnt "start" up on: April 13, 2013, 10:26:27 AM
Try:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows/bring-misplaced-off-screen-windows-back-to-your-desktop-keyboard-trick/
1243  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Super low hash rate and 0 accepted?! on: April 13, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
ATI 5xxx and 6xxx work best with different driver versions than 7xxx, so it is best to stick these two series of cards in different machines so you can optimize performance for each.

The earlier cards will work best with 11.6-11.11 Catalyst with RAM underclocked to ~300MHz, the 7xxx cards need newer drivers. Using the newest 13.x drivers will bork OpenCL mining on older cards.

6670 is just a passable card anyway:
480 Stream Processing Units
24 Texture Units

(for reference, it's the card in front:)
1244  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Offering PayPal for Bitcoin? You're likely to be labeled a scammer - Read why on: April 13, 2013, 08:38:36 AM
SAFE METHODS TO USE PAYPAL:
If you are THE SELLER, and you have ALREADY RECEIVED THE MONEY then it is SAFE TO SEND THE ITEM with PayPal.
...
If using PayPal and you are afraid the payment may be disputed, ALWAYS USE GIFT PAYMENTS. Gift payments CANNOT be disputed.

(...Lots of other BS)

You cannot social engineer your way back into PayPal scamming by posting disinformation, sorry.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/beware-paypal-gift-chargeback-fraud-will-defraud-sellers-784828.html
...and about a kajillion other Internet sources. Also, using gift payments for purchases is considered "fee avoidance" by PayPal, just one more reason to have your account frozen.

Forum users have already learned that it is you vs. the most sophisticated hackers and scam artists trying to defraud you out of Bitcoins. We are not talking Nigerian princes here, these are the ethic-less scum that get bank wires reversed after setting up fabricated bank accounts in rogue nation states, as supplemental income to their drug and human trafficking rings.

Offering to pay with PayPal? - few will take it; a forum search for "PayPal" tells potential recipients all they need to know.
Willing to take PayPal payments? - don't bother posting here about how smoothly it went for you until six months later.
1245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin so popular in Oregon? on: April 13, 2013, 04:46:50 AM
I was looking for maps where Oregon is in the top ranking, to correlate with Bitcoin use. Besides Bigfoot sightings and breast feeding, I came up with two:

Manufacturing as % of Gross Production:


State income tax rates:


There's also no sales tax in Oregon, so it's a good place to buy stuff retail. It is wise now considering that 48 states can't compete with no sales tax businesses on the Internet.
1246  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Lost Shares on: April 13, 2013, 03:45:04 AM
Besides you trying to send invalid shares to the pool, some pools will ban inefficient miners, ones that take up network and server resources to barely submit a few shares a block.
1247  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Payment confirming too fast on: April 13, 2013, 03:11:24 AM
The block after your transaction was mined within the same minute. Sometimes miners get lucky and multiple blocks get mined in close proximity.

Thanks for the clarification. Tongue

Maybe you find interesting - the chances of that second block being found in 23 seconds or less is about 4%, higher than intuition may lead you to believe:

0:06.31  1.04620%
0:13.28  2.18970%
0:20.99  3.43810%
0:29.51  4.79926%
0:38.92  6.28127%
0:49.32  7.89232%
1:00.82  9.64061%
1:13.53 11.53420%
1:27.57 13.58080%
1:43.09 15.78761%
2:00.25 18.16103%
2:19.20 20.70631%
2:40.15 23.42731%
3:03.31 26.32598%
3:28.90 29.40204%
3:57.18 32.65242%
4:28.43 36.07085%
5:02.98 39.64731%
5:41.15 43.36763%
6:23.34 47.21302%
7:09.97 51.15983%


What is less likely is a transaction with only 0.0001 fee being included in the next block - based on blockspace competition with other fee-paying transactions, that could have taken a long time. Miners like me today.
1248  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Payment confirming too fast on: April 12, 2013, 10:35:12 PM
I just sent .0004 BTC with a .0001 fee to myself, and it has two confirmations within three minutes of hitting send. WTF is going on here?

8e3117b84468efdb06a76d9cf0d42f39de0bdf4317c2b378510caadf6345ec7a

Just a counterpoint to the "blah blah blockchain.info didn't pay fee why no confirm" threads. Use your own Bitcoin-qt and include a bare minimum fee and you'll probably not wait much.

(same transaction 2 weeks ago, 15 blocks before inclusion though...)
1249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Addresses are missing, cannot create new address in Bitcoin wallet on: April 12, 2013, 10:26:34 PM
I'm not sure what's going on, but when I go to my bitcoin wallet's address book, my addresses are missing, and I cannot create a new one either. When I try to create a new one, it's prompting me for an address as well as a name for the address. Previously, the address field was grayed out and it would generate that on its own. My balance and transactions are valid, so it's not as if the whole program is not working, just the address book. Probably completely missing something here. Any ideas?

It sounds like Bitcoin-Qt. I'll describe the operation first (master). Go to the "receive coins" tab. When you press the "new address" button in the lower left, the dialog that comes up has a box for both label and address. However, the address box doesn't allow input (which is confusing). Input just a unique label and press OK. The dialog should go away and the newly created address will be highlighted back in the receive coins tab.

If this doesn't work and the receive coins doesn't show addresses you previously received payments at, it is likely that the wallet is corrupt, not able to read previous payment addresses. Starting bitcoin with the command-line option -salvagewallet will attempt to create a new wallet with recovered keys, but will remove the labels; this may have already happened automatically.
1250  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTC-E - I need Support... on: April 12, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Make sure your browser is accepting all cookies for the site. If your browser setting is "block cookies", or "accept only for session", the site has no way of tracking who you are as you navigate.

Try without Tor or something that could interfere with a persistent connection.
1251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: How to do wallet rescan? on: April 12, 2013, 10:18:46 PM
If you have a transaction that you are expecting that hasn't confirmed in that long, you should look it up on blockchain.info and see if it is actually confirmed, pending, or doesn't exist at all. Bitcoin transactions don't take that long if they have any chance of going through. A "confirmation" is a transaction being included in the blockchain, it doesn't have anything to do with your client software.

Quote
My car won't start. How do I rotate the tires?
1252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Where can I download the latest blockchain? on: April 12, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
There really is no need to download the blockchain seperately, just let it sync off the peer-to-peer network. I renamed my blockchain directories and redownloaded on Apr 3, and it looks like it took from 12:02-14:38. I even forgot I had done that until today.
1253  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 SHARE ACCEPTED..Now what? on: April 12, 2013, 06:46:40 PM
Care to explain what is incorrect ? I'm assuming you are talking about my post.
A "share" being a proof-of-work doesn't invalidate anything in the text, since proof-of-work is one hash according to a target.


So, a mining pool would do the following:

1. The Bitcoin network has set a target hash
2. Everyone in the pool is working (basically a luck-based work) and producing tons of hashes
3. At some point, someone in the pool might find a value < target (same as step 2 before)
4. The pool receives the reward for mining the block
5. The pool distributes the reward according to how many hashes the individual produced.

You missed the part where you describe how pool mining actually works.
1254  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 SHARE ACCEPTED..Now what? on: April 12, 2013, 06:30:54 PM
The above is not quite correct. What the search button would reveal to you is:

A "share" is a difficulty-1 proof-of-work that is submitted to a pool. It is the lowest bitcoin difficulty, the original difficulty in 2009, and the kind of video cards that miners use can pump out a share about every 10 seconds, they are easy to find. One is found about every 4 billion hash attempts.

The full Bitcoin difficulty changes every 2016 blocks to keep the average block finding rate at six per hour. The current block difficulty is 7672999.9. It is that much harder to find a block than a share; it currently takes 7672999 shares on average before a block is found.

When pools distribute rewards, they evaluate the number of shares that a miner has contributed. Depending on the payment scheme, you might immediately receive a reward (PPS), or an algorithm may pay you in the future over several block findings. The difficulty 1 shares are not block solves and are discarded, they are only a way to measure "attempted work" of miners by the pool reward sharing method.
1255  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: To Fee or not to Fee on: April 12, 2013, 06:06:22 PM
The analysis to do is on no-fee transactions that have a priority > 57.6M. Compare with the times of those < 57.6M which include exactly the minimum per int(KB+1) fee. These are the default sending modes of Bitcoin-qt with no optional fee.

My hypothesis is that Bitcoin's default behaviour creates two classes of transactions, where the "preferred/non-spammy" class actually gets a lower quality of service from miners.
1256  Economy / Speculation / Re: Estimate how many took noticeable losses on: April 12, 2013, 05:44:07 PM
I last sold at $18, so I took no losses. Tongue
1257  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: SierraChart bridge - Realtime Bitcoin charts [v0.5] (MtGox, Intersango, ...) on: April 12, 2013, 05:35:35 PM
The problem is not the program, it's the source of the history of mtgox trades.
1258  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What's the opposite of a pump and dump? on: April 12, 2013, 05:26:57 PM
DDOS and buy?
1259  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How bad is burning smell of electronics for health? on: April 12, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
It's the smell of human dander dust cooking at 80 degrees.
1260  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 SHARE ACCEPTED..Now what? on: April 12, 2013, 05:22:09 PM
A share is currently worth about 25 / 7672999 BTC = 0.00000316 BTC

The minimum amount you can withdraw from bitcoin.cz is 0.01 BTC - find about 3500 more shares....

Correct answer: give up if you don't have one of these:

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