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181  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Hardware Wallet Roundup on: January 13, 2013, 08:08:44 AM
Can I buy any of these yet?

https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/13429-micro-bitsafe-w-uusb-port-512-kb-flash-128-kb-sram-1-0mm-pcb
182  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitmit - Bitcoin shopping mall (Translators wanted) on: January 13, 2013, 03:08:49 AM
Yes! It's back.

Thanks Tosaki. I really appreciate all the work you've put into this.
Thanks for keeping the prices low.

Hope you decide not sell it and continue to improve upon it with new vigor.
I've enjoyed watching the slowly-but-surely growth on your site over the months.

You do realize the original tosaki sold bitmit, and his forum account, months ago? The guy who currently runs bitmit and now acts under the tosaki name on this forum isn't the same guy who started bitmit.

That said, I still think bitmit is a very good bitmit service. Since you can buy a great deal of stuff there, it's really a loop-closer in the Bitcoin economy. I hope whoever ends up running it does it well.

By loop-closer I mean it closes the loop from BTC user to BTC user, so that there's no real need to go back from BTC to fiat currency.

huh?!?

When did that happen? Did the buyer get his Bitcointalk user account as well?

Read this thread. It all burns down to tosaki not speaking German anymore. He was quite active on the German forum before and then wasn't able to reply to German PMs anymore. He kind of acknowledged that the ownership of bitmit.net changed but isn't talkative at all. To the degree of information we get, I assume there is a language barrier or something. Obviously he's struggling to keep bitmit online but not so much to keep people here satisfied.

Well, I skimmed through the thread and had no luck of finding evidence of the site changing hands. There was an incidence Here where he thought he would have to shut it down or sell, but then says he worked everything out and all was OK:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41592.msg1286148#msg1286148

Did he admit it had changed hands in the German forums? I don't speak German so it would be nice if someone could investigates the specifics and put it here. I had communicated with the "original" Tosaki several times through email and he had referenced a "team" a few times. Could it be that he simply is no longer part of that team?
183  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitmit - Bitcoin shopping mall (Translators wanted) on: January 13, 2013, 01:00:10 AM
Yes! It's back.

Thanks Tosaki. I really appreciate all the work you've put into this.
Thanks for keeping the prices low.

Hope you decide not sell it and continue to improve upon it with new vigor.
I've enjoyed watching the slowly-but-surely growth on your site over the months.

You do realize the original tosaki sold bitmit, and his forum account, months ago? The guy who currently runs bitmit and now acts under the tosaki name on this forum isn't the same guy who started bitmit.

That said, I still think bitmit is a very good bitmit service. Since you can buy a great deal of stuff there, it's really a loop-closer in the Bitcoin economy. I hope whoever ends up running it does it well.

By loop-closer I mean it closes the loop from BTC user to BTC user, so that there's no real need to go back from BTC to fiat currency.

huh?!?

When did that happen? Did the buyer get his Bitcointalk user account as well?
184  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitmit - Bitcoin shopping mall (Translators wanted) on: January 12, 2013, 08:10:11 PM
I just had an idea for a feature:

It would be nice to have the option for listings to get better coverage and advertising on the website (with an additional fee of course).
There could be a banner at the top and/or the side that would randomly display featured products that pay the extra for it.

This could increase revenue and the value of the site without scaring away any customers.


185  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitmit - Bitcoin shopping mall (Translators wanted) on: January 12, 2013, 08:02:08 PM
Yes! It's back.

Thanks Tosaki. I really appreciate all the work you've put into this.
Thanks for keeping the prices low.

Hope you decide not sell it and continue to improve upon it with new vigor.
I've enjoyed watching the slowly-but-surely growth on your site over the months.


186  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Logo on: January 12, 2013, 05:19:04 PM
Wow! This is off to a great start. This is very nice!
Thanks subSTRATA.

Would it be worthwhile work in a picture like this around the perimeter?

187  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Logo on: January 10, 2013, 08:21:26 PM


There we go, I figured it out.
188  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Logo on: January 10, 2013, 07:10:06 PM
Maybe some inspiration will help?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6zraamuovzgse5w/IMG_1810.JPG

      

I put the link in IMG tags, but it doesn't show up. What's going on?
189  Bitcoin / Project Development / [BOUNTY PAID] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Logo on: January 10, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
Bounty paid and logo maid.

Thanks!

Main Bitsafe thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152517.0

190  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitmit - Bitcoin shopping mall (Translators wanted) on: January 08, 2013, 03:02:28 AM
For your information and more transparence I want to tell you what the problem has caused:
It is a result of a failed bootloader configuration whereby I  could not boot the server properly and connect to it remotely. Due this I was not able to solve the problem very fast as I am used to do it and had to wait for the slow responses of my webhoster. Of course I had the possibility to quickly setup a new server with the backup files of the db an script but our server came up with special security configuration that took some time to create so I decided to get the old one running in order to guarantee best possible site and funds security.

No data is lost (even if the server burned down I would have backups of all the data) and all funds are safe. Tomorrow the site should be back and we will talk about a redemption for all our users.

I am so sorry and hope you understand :/

PS: Auctions times will be extended

Don't know how anyone could complain. Your service is exceptional and I for one really appreciate what you have done.
Very glad to hear that everything will be ok.
191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Security Holograms - Artwork Sample on: January 06, 2013, 04:02:21 AM
1)Why did you choose a $500 dollar commitment price?
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.

It's mainly for sufficient granularity for my order.  This is an order to a factory.  Saying "I want to place 1 order but have it in 6 variations all in equal quantity" is sensible.  Sending them a laundry list of little arbitrarily-sized orders will cause them to treat it as a bunch of little orders, best addressed to a retailer rather than a factory.

2) How do larger orders effect the price/sticker? Can you provide a quotes for different ranges?
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about  32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment
I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders

3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.

Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.

Please read the thread from the beginning.  Let me point out the following

1. There is no offer anymore, it was retracted more than six months prior to your post asking these questions.  The notion of whether I could continue to provide quotes relative to it anymore isn't sensible.
2. This is an offer to combine small orders into one larger order with a factory.  I am not the factory.  Think of me much like the person splitting the tab at a bar, putting the whole tab on my credit card while you pay me your share in cash.  I'm still a patron just like you, I don't become the bartender.  I'm splitting a bill given to me by someone else.  Therefore I cannot issue quotes, give discounts, or make proposals for repeat orders.
3. There is no "quantity discount" - the purpose of my original offer was to provide access to holograms below the minimum quantity for a factory order.  Consider the similarity to asking Costco if they have a quantity discount on 10 cans of Sprite from their soda machine while unaware of the fact that they sell 36 packs of Sprite inside the store.  If you are interested in a large enough quantity to merit a discount, what I was offering wouldn't benefit you - consider contacting companies directly and placing your own order, which comes with the highly valuable flexibility of having your name directly embedded in the holography, rather than zapped on as an afterthought.


Thanks.
192  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Development - $28.00 (Developers only) on: January 03, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
I'm not sure if the ICD3 will work. I'll have to look into it. If it does, you will still need an RJ-45 to a 6-pin female pin header adapter.
It looks like the ICD3 will support the PIC32 from microchip's website. Also, I have made lots of custom programming headers, since RJ-11 is a horrible choice for a programming header.

Quote
Your offer to help assembly is extremely appreciated. Stencil printing too; I'm envious, but this is really great. Whereabouts in the world you located? I'm in Arizona.

I'm in TX, whois paybitcoin.com + google if you must know  Wink... At work we do a bunch of prototyping and custom engineering work. Mostly with Linux/Android now on armv7a using CPU system-on-modules since our apps got more complex, but used to be all PIC18. We started to move off to other architectures (Cortex-M3) since MPLAB is such a bad IDE, and mostly the 4096 byte RAM limit with PIC18s. I haven't used the PIC24 or PIC32 though.


That's a cool rendering of a hardware wallet.

You mentioned you had a stencil printer; when I have everything ready to send, would you trade a stencil for a PCB and components?
Not sure how much a stencil runs; so, maybe that is unreasonable.
If you wanted to help in assembly, I would love to pass the savings on to others. 
193  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Development - $28.00 (Developers only) on: January 03, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
2) This price does not include a PicKit 3 which is a must at this early level of development: $45.00 + Shipping
http://www.microchipdirect.com/ProductSearch.aspx?Keywords=PG164130

It is possible to avoid using a PicKit 3. If the dev board is loaded with an appropriate bootloader (eg. http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1824&appnote=en554836), it should be possible to program the device using the on-board USB port.

What the PicKit3 is useful for, is if:
  • You want to develop or modify the bootloader itself (if you mess up the bootloader, you could brick the PIC32, in which case you need a PicKit3 to recover).
  • You want good integration with MPLAB.
  • You want to use debugging features like breakpoints, watches etc.

This is why it is so nice working with "someone" vs. alone. I knew it was possible to make a bootloader app with firmware, but I had no idea how feasible it was to produce in the short term. How long do you think it would take to have it ready and working? Looks much easier than I thought with that app note and all the source code available. This is really great news.
As soon as there is a working boot loader prototype, I will surely make it available to order.

 
194  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Development - $28.00 (Developers only) on: January 03, 2013, 06:24:22 AM
Update OP: 02/02/2013
Minor note - You are a month too late in your date! Don't slip the schedule just yet!!!


I'd be in for a development kit. I can do all the soldering as well if that is an option. I could possibly assist with some assembly on the production run as well, I have the basics to do prototypes and short runs available at work. (stencil printer, reflow oven, small tweezers & steady hands Smiley)

What is included in the dev kit? I am assuming just the board and components? I already have an ICD3...

You should also quote USB extension cables from monoprice.com, for only $1.79/1qty (+shipping)

Also, looking at the BOM + schematic, I see the Atmel IC as RNG, so all of the 'Universal Hardware RNG' components would go away, correct? Or would it be an assembly option?

Thanks!

Fixed the date. Thanks!

I was hoping to have both HRNG on the PCB before sending it out (The Atmel will be on there for sure). The circuity for the other one is very flexible and I'm unsure what the final values will be.

I'll update the price for the USB extension. Thanks again!

I'm not sure if the ICD3 will work. I'll have to look into it. If it does, you will still need an RJ-45 to a 6-pin female pin header adapter.

Your offer to help assembly is extremely appreciated. Stencil printing too; I'm envious, but this is really great. Whereabouts in the world you located? I'm in Arizona.
195  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Development - $28.00 (Developers only) on: January 03, 2013, 03:55:37 AM
Update: 02/02/2013 01/02/2013 Tongue

Ok, as mentioned before there are 50 kits being prepared to be distributed to developers, early adopters, and beta testers.
I've calculated a final price today for DEVELOPERS ONLY: it's $28.00 per device. This price
excludes the time and/or money that will go into the final fabrication and assembly. It's my gift to Bitcoin.
At this price, I just might break even with all the money I've personally put into the project.
(Assuming I don't have to re-spin some PCBs: wishful thinking, but I will personally eat the costs)

The final price for early adopters and others interested in having the latest cool gadget is $45.00 Dollars.
It takes a lot of time, special equipment, and skill to manually assembly a project like this with quality.

NOTES:

1)The price does not include a USB extension cable which is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for
developers: $4.05 + Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Foot-USB-Extension-Cable/dp/B001G4ZA6I/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_y
2) This price does not include a PicKit 3 which is a must at this early level of development: $45.00 + Shipping
http://www.microchipdirect.com/ProductSearch.aspx?Keywords=PG164130
3) There will be some testing of each device, but minimal.
4) Price for Developers and others does not include shipping costs.
5) 30 day money back, but shipping is paid by buyer both ways.

Total Developers COST: 28.00 + $4.00 + 45.00 + Shipping = $77.0

So, am I ready to take orders? Not even close!

So, why did I update and bump my thread?
Well, I need to get a list of all interested developers.
This will help me get an idea of how many night and weekend hours I'm going to be assembling boards for free. PLUS, I would appreciate
if potential DEVELOPERS that are hindered by the price offered would allow me to post a unique BTC addresses for donations on their behalf.

Thanks.
196  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Hardware Wallet Roundup on: January 03, 2013, 12:59:26 AM
Thanks for starting this thread.
Nice to have all the links to all the Hardware wallet development going on.

FYI, Allten's PCB is based from Someone42's Prototype.
Someone42 has helped out significantly in the design of that PCB.
Please give him credit.

Thanks.
197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Security Holograms - Artwork Sample on: December 17, 2012, 02:23:11 AM
They can already cut circles.

The laser can cut the material easily but the edge becomes rough. Just have them cut it.

Quite honestly, I use my laser machine on the stickers themselves as little as possible because it is time consuming. Only for marking the gold coin and the 2 factor bars. Look at how I have these items priced as a result.

(Of course, I also use it for cutting out private key circles, which is WAY easier than hole punching when it is thousands at a time, and also allows an exact fit)

Got it. Laser idea is officially canned. Thanks for humoring my questions.

Next set a questions. I'll try to put them all in this post to avoid stringing them along.

1)Why did you choose a $500 dollar commitment price?
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.

2) How do larger orders effect the price/sticker? Can you provide a quotes for different ranges?
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about  32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment

"Also, if I can get 8 shares worth of commitment ($4000), I can bump the order up a bit, and in the process, everybody can get 25% worth of yield added to their order at no extra cost (so, everyone expecting 2,500 holograms would get 3,125 instead).  The response has been good - from the looks of it, this might actually happen!"

I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders

3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.

Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.
198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Security Holograms - Artwork Sample on: December 16, 2012, 06:34:14 AM
Just do a google image search for "casascius" and look at the text on the 1000 BTC bar and the gold coin.

It actually looks really good. Just less secure because anyone could laser the surface, can't ablate the foil.

Lasering the back would be really cumbersome and difficult. And I expect the same results. Co2 infrared laser will not ablate metal foil without also melting the plastic.

I Found pics with laser etching on the bar, but not on the holographic sticker itself. Maybe that is what you referring too.

Can both the plastic and metal foil be precisely cut? That way, when it is removed from the wax paper for application, the cut portion stays behind.


199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Security Holograms - Artwork Sample on: December 16, 2012, 04:49:26 AM
Polylabel - Ontario, Canada

Well, they weren't very helpful. Looks like the only option is order a large batch of custom stickers and make subsets of them unique
by my self.

You had mentioned that you had a laser engraver and had attempted to etch text or something to that effect on the stickers.
How successful could this be in making a small batch of stickers unique?

Could it be done with a more expensive high quality laser?


They are able to do "serial numbering" from a file.  This puts it in perspective.  Instead of saying "can you customize my labels", ask for serial numbering, and tell them you'll be submitting a file that contains (for example) Text A repeated 2000 times, Text B repeated 2000 times, etc...  This way, the expectations are clear: you aren't actually asking for any customization to the holographic shim itself.

I do have a laser engraver, and it can etch text.  Theirs is better for security.  When they "serial number" a label, the characters are a transparency in the holographic material, making it see-thru, something that can only be done during the manufacturing process.

When I laser-engrave a label, it makes tiny melts to the plastic, causing the holographic material to fuse with the plastic.  Wherever my laser hits, it turns the hologram material into something resembling highly reflective gold paint after it's dried.  It completely loses its holographic properties, while gaining a neat-looking brilliance all its own (but looks very different from their transparent serial numbering).

If you were looking to considering entry level equipment for lasering a label... just for reference sake, my laser is a 40 watt CO2 laser, though that's WAY more power than is necessary for this purpose, I turn the power way down if I use it for marking my labels.  Anything more than about 10-15% power will completely slice right through the label, even at the maximum speed (higher speed = shorter exposure per pixel).

Ok, I read back through all the posts in this thread and found this comment

"As it turns out, I actually do own a laser engraving machine.  But I am not lasering the holograms, the factory is.  I am pretty sure they laser the foil layer before it gets attached to the plastic layer of the sticker.  The foil presumably requires a much higher temperature to vaporize that the plastic would never withstand.  Where they mark at the factory, you see a complete absence of foil with no side effects to the plastic."

I sent another email to the manufacture to see if there was any other method to make better post engravings with laser equipment. probably not, but we'll see.

Would you be willing to post a picture of what it looks like when you do it with your laser equipment?
Even though it isn't as nice I may still be interested.
How does it look if you etch from the bottom of the sticker? Willing to give it a try?

Sorry, I can be stubbornly persistent. I would really like anyone and everyone to have access to this.

Thanks,
   Allten
200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Security Holograms - Artwork Sample on: December 15, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
Polylabel - Ontario, Canada

Well, they weren't very helpful. Looks like the only option is order a large batch of custom stickers and make subsets of them unique
by my self.

You had mentioned that you had a laser engraver and had attempted to etch text or something to that effect on the stickers.
How successful could this be in making a small batch of stickers unique?

Could it be done with a more expensive high quality laser?
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