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on: February 23, 2018, 03:29:35 PM
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Coinflow, I do not see any 51% attack, if it were so simple I would not be here. 51% attack is just a matter of convenience. you want to take possession of Satoshi Nakamoto BTC address? Actually hardware cost only is 7.623.786.501,55 usd + 13.625.659,00 usd (kWh consume) per day. you want to take possession of those mooncoin stolen? would you spend 100kusd ? to get 62blns not spendable? But Keep in mind that the dev can restore everything .....
If a wallet blocks coins, the attacker only needs to be in control for the time he performs the attack, in order to overcome the limitation, which is what happened with Mooncoin. If he would want to try to move Satoshis coins, which are not blocked by code, he would need to rewrite the complete blockchain back to where the movements to Satoshis address happened. But even then he would not be in control of the coins as such, but could only rewrite the history of the blockchain that way, that the coins would remain in the original sender's address. As Satoshi most probably mined the most coins directly (like with mining into a wallet or likewise via P2Pool) those coins then would never be there at all. Because when they are mined directly to the own wallet, they are not transferred from one user/address to another, but they are created for the first time ever. Again: For this kind of 51%-attack with Mooncoin, you won't need to rewrite the whole blockchain from the beginning, but only be in control of the majority of hashing-power, until the coins are successfully sent. Remember, unlike with Satoshis coins, the attacker was in control of the private key for the transferred coins' address, so it was relatively cheap for him to buy hashing-power to send the coins. Despite of these coins being "locked" (only in other user's wallet's code, which had no effect for his transaction), he could confirm it himself alone with his hashing-power, regardless of what the other nodes/miners were saying at that time. He simply dictated the "consensus" all alone and could write it into the blockchain. After this the others took over the majority again and were happily mining away this chain as if nothing happened. Yes Coinflow, but the dev can restore the valid chain...there are checkpoints etc... Obviously all atcoin will have to do innovation and research for increasingly secure systems , bitcoin included ( cfr. quantum computing ..) Again I do not see any attack 51%, the hash power substantially constant, 2 days ago probably someone has tried for ten hours..but it seems to have failed... Friends, Why hashrate raise up to 290GH/s now Huh is there any huge movement( billions moon coin) Huh Anyone help to check ? Br A strong spiky rise in hashrate every now and then is not unusual for Mooncoin, 290GH/s is not so much, btw. That does not automatically mean a 51%-attack is going on. Most probably a miner tries out Mooncoin, to see what the returns are. At the moment there is no real target for a "classical" 51%-attack against Mooncoin, that's right (see here: https://learncryptography.com/cryptocurrency/51-attack ). The interesting target was the locked coins, which was an easy one, because the attacker had the private key, could send the coins during the attack and sell them, when the price was in its highest phase of market-cycle. The question is, why he also sent ~62 bln to Vassilis' public address? The dev can restore the chain? What about all the coins that have been sent in the meantime? You know what a rollback would mean. Yes Coinflow, about rollback we have already discussed at the hacker attack on December 2014....
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on: February 23, 2018, 02:25:26 PM
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Coinflow, I do not see any 51% attack, if it were so simple I would not be here. 51% attack is just a matter of convenience. you want to take possession of Satoshi Nakamoto BTC address? Actually hardware cost only is 7.623.786.501,55 usd + 13.625.659,00 usd (kWh consume) per day. you want to take possession of those mooncoin stolen? would you spend 100kusd ? to get 62blns not spendable? But Keep in mind that the dev can restore everything .....
If a wallet blocks coins, the attacker only needs to be in control for the time he performs the attack, in order to overcome the limitation, which is what happened with Mooncoin. If he would want to try to move Satoshis coins, which are not blocked by code, he would need to rewrite the complete blockchain back to where the movements to Satoshis address happened. But even then he would not be in control of the coins as such, but could only rewrite the history of the blockchain that way, that the coins would remain in the original sender's address. As Satoshi most probably mined the most coins directly (like with mining into a wallet or likewise via P2Pool) those coins then would never be there at all. Because when they are mined directly to the own wallet, they are not transferred from one user/address to another, but they are created for the first time ever. Again: For this kind of 51%-attack with Mooncoin, you won't need to rewrite the whole blockchain from the beginning, but only be in control of the majority of hashing-power, until the coins are successfully sent. Remember, unlike with Satoshis coins, the attacker was in control of the private key for the transferred coins' address, so it was relatively cheap for him to buy hashing-power to send the coins. Despite of these coins being "locked" (only in other user's wallet's code, which had no effect for his transaction), he could confirm it himself alone with his hashing-power, regardless of what the other nodes/miners were saying at that time. He simply dictated the "consensus" all alone and could write it into the blockchain. After this the others took over the majority again and were happily mining away this chain as if nothing happened. Yes Coinflow, but the dev can restore the valid chain...there are checkpoints etc... Obviously all atcoin will have to do innovation and research for increasingly secure systems , bitcoin included ( cfr. quantum computing ..) Again I do not see any attack 51%, the hash power substantially constant, 2 days ago probably someone has tried for ten hours..but it seems to have failed... Friends, Why hashrate raise up to 290GH/s now Huh is there any huge movement( billions moon coin) Huh Anyone help to check ? Br
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on: February 21, 2018, 10:51:12 PM
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He also emphasized the OR, which says, that he is not necessarily of the opinion, that he backs the fraud-accusations. Maybe he should clarify this.
I didn't mention anything about fraud no as there's no evidence of that, only that those coins were supposed to be locked up with no access as that is evidenced here in this thread. The only fraud I can see evidenced is Barry lied about locking those coins. I have no idea why he was so fixated on the fraud part, if I believe someone is doing shady things then I will usually make that clearly known. Like with MF trying to get me to sweep Barry's debt under the rug and just let him keep my coins, or him offering me a fraction of my BTC back to leave it alone after so I wouldn't hurt his investment. However, I would find it highly suspicious if the new dev is the one in control of those locked coins now. Maybe barrysty1e was confident, that his solution would work and he made Mooncoin_Foundation and everyone else believe the same? But as the dev he should have known, that this is no 100% secure solution. Either both overlooked, that Mooncoin is a Proof of Work-coin and thus has the weakness of a possible 51%-attack, which is what happened here? Or they ignored it and the "locking" of the coins was just marketing to drive the price? A possible 51%-attack (and the relatively low hashrate needed to perform it, compared to the rates of LTC, DOGE etc. and in regard to the available massive amounts of hashing-power worldwide) was the reason, why I advised several times to implement other methods of securing the coin (PoS, hybrid, Proof of Human Work, mixed algos etc.). But nothing of this happened. It was more important to get a new logo several times, SmartLikes, MoonWord, lower block-rewards (to scare the miners even more away ...) and "locking" coins ... i see too many people confused, I'll be very short: 1) about barryst1le look into Trust summary for barrysty agswinner 2017-05-11 0.00000000 Many jobs are incomplete, moonrush wallet for example, coinomi and electrum wallet,we have paid for having them, not so much, but we have something rather than nothing. Others dev for the same job demand a lot more!! This person is not a scammer! . The work done has an evident value higher than the requested amount ! (about 300usd). 2) about 51% attack unrealistic and imaginative, mooncoin blockchain has never suffered an attack 51%. P. Vernon is the owner , he escaped to China with the private keys of the cold wallets of more than 50 coins (report 3 Fed Court) . On oct 2016 my alert of first coins moved 100 ml Mooncoin from account cryptsy moved to bleutrade. I think it's necessary to inform exchanges to freeze all the coins from the first two cryptsy addresses. 2F2RsYK3Ac6zGvENWTosF7xKor7g2bqzra 38,749,074,939.000 MOON ---- > 2FgWY2MjPn9AG3bhuRLH5mhCKyc17eVHRY 38,149,074,939.000 MOON 2PcvMEThutycp94myusjFWMFyoBT4ZPjuP (50ml) 2ab6krKewHA3XqDkNr7gkvbbr5z7NihnAY (550ml)---> 2FUg5Ay1STEroh6CQk4PXpVVEx8xQ8EY2M (100000000 MOON) Data: 10 novembre 2016 17:44:42 CET A: robert@robertcareylaw.com, Fed Court < jds@sallahlaw.com> Oggetto: I: Cryptsy As is stated in the recent report, FED Court has the control of 8,421,008,915.0 MOON coins that have been gathered in this address 2M5kiseCXp6X5g75ZcWeo3BNsMYJxtDCzq For the mooncoin community can you confirm that the first big addresses (2cLG2RzF6rDCtNws6We8o8avXs1grqARHU and 2FgWY2MjPn9AG3bhuRLH5mhCKyc17eVHRY) are under your control? I am looking forward to a positive answer Best regards In archive of MF 16/10/2016 my discussion ....as you know, I'm the shareholder more damaged by the collapse of cryptsy and mr Robert Carey, Esq., Receivership Consultant Of Federal Court has not given me dettails, not clarify the situation concerning Moon addresses .As you know the largest address has been recently moved with a difference of 600 millions. This particular leads me to think that Vernon controls Mooncoin address. So i can not, for now, contribute massively, until this situation will be clear. ... The report 3 Fed Court confirmed what was my suspicion.. Look this 2FgWY2MjPn9AG3bhuRLH5mhCKyc17eVHRY -> to Vassilis donation fund PVernon have the private key , why a 51% attack to rewriting Two years of Blockchain?
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on: February 18, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
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COINEXCHANGE.IO UPDATE
Coinexchange has resolved my issue with mooncoin withdrawal after about 2 months of waiting. The profit from the bubble was lost but at least I got the coin back.
The next price rise will come. That's the character of (stock) markets. Patience is the key. Warren Buffett: "The stock market is a wonderfully efficient mechanism for transferring wealth from the impatient to the patient." http://www.azquotes.com/quote/877076Edit: Maybe also interesting to read in that regard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_cyclesFrom there: "Well known cycles include: The lunar cycle Annual seasonality, also known as Sell in May or the Halloween indicator. As well as the January effect and July effect. The four-year United States presidential election cycle in the US. The 17.6 Year Stock Market Cycle The 60 year Kondratiev cycles" See the line in bold. That's why it is sad, that the block-reward for Mooncoin-miners has been altered by some here from the lunar cycle-based 29531 MOON ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase ) to some other (decreasing) payout scheme. From the original Mooncoin-ann-thread: "Block rewards: Blocks 1-100,000: 0-2,000,000 MOON Blocks 100,001-200,000: 0-1,000,000 MOON Blocks 200,001-250,000: 0-600,000 MOON Blocks 250,001-300,000: 0-350,000 MOON Blocks 300,001-350,000: 0-175,000 MOON Blocks 350,001-375,000: 0-100,000 MOON Blocks 375,001-384,400: 0-50,000 MOON All future blocks are a fixed 29531 MOON." There was no real need to alter that. ... has been altered by some here ...by comunity. But the legendary creator Deacoombogie disappeared. He is probably a professor of university mathematics? as you can guess from the old ANN by a few conversations .... what does the mooncoin lunar landing Apollo 11 in July 2014 have to do with the lunar cycle? Low inflation is a basic function until moon reaches the big markets Just because some here in the thread and/or in closed communication would like to lower the payout, does not make it a community-backed decision. As allsnioc posted, this would need a real vote. So it is perfectly ok, saying it was altered by "some". Other "somes" may not even have been asked or don't follow the channels - at least not regularly. So it may be backed by a part of "the community", but it is certainly no democratic decision. Anyway, the dev who coded this (barrysty1e) is gone now and in the light of this, those kind of changes in the code could be perceived by knowledgable investors as short-sighted hectic and desperate tries to drive the price up. This is not desirable for a serious, classic coin. If it was, then LTC or BTC would need to change their code immediately regarding the payouts, because this would drive the price for them, too. deaconboogie set the coin up as Mooncoin, so he does not necessarily be a mathematics guru. But he chose the payout-scheme nicely in coherence to the name and the theme of this coin. So why would one alter that, if it means absolutely NO difference, whether 29531 MOON or 16000-something or even 10000 are paid out to the miners? With the amount of MOON already in circulation, this change really makes absolutely no difference. Regarding the Mooncoin lunar landing: Because it is Mooncoin, it makes sense. At least it is better marketing, than trying to "lock" coins by code, which is non-effective by design and furthermore creates censorship - see here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_power - excerpt: "Probably the most likely scenario where this attack would be employed would be for a government to try to get control over Bitcoin by acquiring a majority of hashing power (either directly or by enforcing rules on private miners within its borders). Then this government could use the transaction-censorship power listed above to do things like: Prevent any transactions spending "stolen" coins, effectively destroying those coins. If the coins clearly are stolen, then there is a risk that this action will be accepted by the Bitcoin community, but this would set a very damaging precedent. If it becomes possible for coins to be blacklisted in this way, then it is a slippery slope toward blacklisting of other "suspicious" coins. Prevent all transactions from unknown people, so everyone has to register with the government in order to transact." So trying to force Vassilis to "burn" the coins, he has received on his address, is exactly the same kind of the above methods. It will attract short-sighted investors (or better: speculators), that want the quick buck and they will keep coming back complaining, if the hot air of that measure - if any - is out of the coin again. Mooncoin needs a stable and serious development, ironing-out of bugs and strong and friendly support of normal investors by a competent dev, as well as strong efforts to get it listed on further, bigger exchanges. Not a new soldier-of-fortune-feature or short-sighted-speculator-candy every day or week. That's all what it takes. If Mooncoin has achieved this, one could think about new features, if necessary. But first of all, serious investors need stability, honesty and a proven record of development. Everyone can write a white paper or a "roadmap", but developing a stable coin that becomes a "classic" or a "no-brainer" to invest in, needs much more than changing the block-reward or burning coins. Why not burn every coin except of 43, to become the brother of 42-coin? Why not do a swap and set the deadline to next week, so that the result is, that all earlier holders of MOON are out of the game? They would recognize months later, when they look again at their wallet, that their coins are useless then. I hope you see, that all this is not the solution, but creates new problems that do not really help Mooncoin, but only makes a nice flash-in-the pan for pump-and-dumpers. it seems like a back to the past then you , dear Coinflow disappeared for a year. I remember the struggles in MF to carry forward ideas and projects, many heads and struggles to do something. I voted to do! Yes my vote is egual to 1, but my real vote is to click the buy or sell button....Im investor. we have carried forward the demands of the market, just read Reddit about ..too generous inflation of Mooncoin . Today we have in being, smarlikes Idea (secret as I know), moonword etc close to the launch. Regarding the scenario of a government attack, it seems unlikely to be against bitcoin and also against Mooncoin and altcoin (bitcoin = freedom , without a centralized third part and unstoppable) Coming to us, nobody is forcing Vassilis, we stick to what lawyers will say. Now community has decided to burn, right? my vote = 1 and your vote = 1. Read on reddit, on this ANN, on Telegram, Discord Channel.. We must avoid this scenario: Vassilis transfers Mooncoin stolen to the Fed Court > auction >big dump 62 Blns , panic sell , sharks , speculators, lamboboys in a week, dump and pumps , super big wall in every books , not profitable coin , Moon long stagnation and probably dead... Again, all investors want: a good team, active dev , wallets , mobile wallet , etc What about a swap of only unspendible and rejected by our community stolen coins?
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on: February 17, 2018, 12:58:43 PM
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COINEXCHANGE.IO UPDATE
Coinexchange has resolved my issue with mooncoin withdrawal after about 2 months of waiting. The profit from the bubble was lost but at least I got the coin back.
The next price rise will come. That's the character of (stock) markets. Patience is the key. Warren Buffett: "The stock market is a wonderfully efficient mechanism for transferring wealth from the impatient to the patient." http://www.azquotes.com/quote/877076Edit: Maybe also interesting to read in that regard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_cyclesFrom there: "Well known cycles include: The lunar cycle Annual seasonality, also known as Sell in May or the Halloween indicator. As well as the January effect and July effect. The four-year United States presidential election cycle in the US. The 17.6 Year Stock Market Cycle The 60 year Kondratiev cycles" See the line in bold. That's why it is sad, that the block-reward for Mooncoin-miners has been altered by some here from the lunar cycle-based 29531 MOON ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase ) to some other (decreasing) payout scheme. From the original Mooncoin-ann-thread: "Block rewards: Blocks 1-100,000: 0-2,000,000 MOON Blocks 100,001-200,000: 0-1,000,000 MOON Blocks 200,001-250,000: 0-600,000 MOON Blocks 250,001-300,000: 0-350,000 MOON Blocks 300,001-350,000: 0-175,000 MOON Blocks 350,001-375,000: 0-100,000 MOON Blocks 375,001-384,400: 0-50,000 MOON All future blocks are a fixed 29531 MOON." There was no real need to alter that. ... has been altered by some here ...by comunity. But the legendary creator Deacoombogie disappeared. He is probably a professor of university mathematics? as you can guess from the old ANN by a few conversations .... what does the mooncoin lunar landing Apollo 11 in July 2014 have to do with the lunar cycle? Low inflation is a basic function until moon reaches the big markets
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on: February 14, 2018, 01:32:28 PM
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Today The day Started Bettter!
A Portion of the coins who where lost due some reason were returned!
Coinexchange hasnot provided info but its a start!
I received today letter from support: "The issue with MoonCoin has now been resolved and I have reprocessed your withdrawals. Please allow some time for the funds to be received. Thank you for your patience while this was resolved. Sincerely, CoinExchange.io Support Team" Congratulations! Thanks everybody! And have a good profit! ))) After my ticket 👍😃
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on: February 13, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
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I tried to build a burn address, I simply took a valid address and replaced a letter, but it is not valid. I'm not a dev, but I think the problem is related to OP_RETURN output..? Again i ask the whole community to create a burn address transparently, it can help us barrystile, poliforal, gihiggins, Titan, mebagger, but it is better an independent dev to avoid unnecessary and annoying attacks and suspicions.
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on: February 05, 2018, 11:54:02 PM
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We are communicating with Vassilis via polemarhos (he knows him personally). The consensus amongst legitimate holders of majority of these coins is: coins must be burned.
Vassilis agreed to burn them, but he needs an official document to do that. It will not be so fast to prepare that for him. Also there is a question: to which address to send coins to burn them? I suggested a burn address earlier, but after that people suggested 2 other burn addresses. So the community must also come to the consensus about a burn address. Experts must confirm that the address is really a burn address. If someone wants to claim his/her coins, again: please post in this ANN thread (before coins are burned), because after coins are burned, no one on this Earth will be able to get them. You must be able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of coins which you claim.
This is ludicrous. Why isn't Vassilis posting this himself? He is the main developer, he is the current owner of those coins. He should post these updates. I thought you wanted decentralization Mooncoin_Foundation? How can something be decentralized if in fact the ANN is pulling all the strings. Also, he does not need an 'official document'. In fact, there are barely any laws relating to cryptocurrency; let alone laws regarding the burning of coins. There is no such thing. Nowhere in the world, so neither in V's Greece. He can just burn them whenever he wants, there are no possible official documents. Also, who is to say that claims are indeed legitimate and not fraudulent? This is my claim. The determination is Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted.. CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT DETERMINATION OF RECOGNIZED CLAIM DATE: SEPTEMBER 15, 2017 ANDREA ?............CLAIM NUMBER: 630? ? You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv- 80060-KAM (the Lawsuit). Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted, and payment will be issued pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.............. this is the easiest way as proof 1) a copy of your claim (only claim accepted) 2) the same documentation sent to the Fed court Unfortunately... You entered into contract with the court/receiver, in which you gave up your right to make a claim for the coins in return for a settlement. Your settlement comes from the "settlement fund" in which proceeds from the lawsuit are obtained. Basically... You can't claim both. It is one or the other. You chose to be part of the lawsuit. Completely right, so why should agswinner have any say on this matter? And why "who is in charge" in this ANN doesn't know the condition above? Aren't there lawyers involved that should know these condiions? Isn't Vassilis talking to a lawyer? Are we sure it is a lawyer he is talking to? What can any of you guys that are in contact with Vassilis tell us as facts that can be proven? today I met two lawyers, experts in international law, I gave them all the elements to evaluate how to act, it takes time. I spent more than three hours with them and I think we can find a positive solution to the community within this month. Be patient, again, it takes time, I will meet them also in the next days. Polemarkos told me that he will meet his lawyer tomorrow. Vassilis already has the assistance of his lawyers for some time.
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on: February 05, 2018, 12:04:54 PM
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We are communicating with Vassilis via polemarhos (he knows him personally). The consensus amongst legitimate holders of majority of these coins is: coins must be burned.
Vassilis agreed to burn them, but he needs an official document to do that. It will not be so fast to prepare that for him. Also there is a question: to which address to send coins to burn them? I suggested a burn address earlier, but after that people suggested 2 other burn addresses. So the community must also come to the consensus about a burn address. Experts must confirm that the address is really a burn address. If someone wants to claim his/her coins, again: please post in this ANN thread (before coins are burned), because after coins are burned, no one on this Earth will be able to get them. You must be able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of coins which you claim.
This is ludicrous. Why isn't Vassilis posting this himself? He is the main developer, he is the current owner of those coins. He should post these updates. I thought you wanted decentralization Mooncoin_Foundation? How can something be decentralized if in fact the ANN is pulling all the strings. Also, he does not need an 'official document'. In fact, there are barely any laws relating to cryptocurrency; let alone laws regarding the burning of coins. There is no such thing. Nowhere in the world, so neither in V's Greece. He can just burn them whenever he wants, there are no possible official documents. Also, who is to say that claims are indeed legitimate and not fraudulent? This is my claim. The determination is Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted.. CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT DETERMINATION OF RECOGNIZED CLAIM DATE: SEPTEMBER 15, 2017 ANDREA ?............CLAIM NUMBER: 630? ? You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv- 80060-KAM (the Lawsuit). Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted, and payment will be issued pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.............. this is the easiest way as proof 1) a copy of your claim (only claim accepted) 2) the same documentation sent to the Fed court So you are asking people to send you legal documentation that exposes private information .... to whom should these information be sent??? To an anonymous Mooncoin_Foundation account? To a dev Vassilis that doesn't talk anymore through his accounts? Who is going to decide who should get their coins back? Is is you Mooncoin_Foundatoin that will decide that a claim is legit? Is it Vassilis? And if at the end you don't publish all the claims how can people know that this is not a scam and that you did to make sure to redirect most of the 62B to your own wallets? And why is the deadline 14 February? And why is there no name of the lawyer that is supposedly taking care of this? To everyone: be smart and don't expose your personal information, no one is going to give you back your Cryptsy coins. If they do it is to hide a scam. If the federal court can't do such thing for sure the "disappeared" dev Vassilis and the anonymous "Mooncoin_Foundation" account can't do so. First of all, I'm not agswinner. I don't know why he posted that post. I didn't ask for any private information. I asked for the number of coins and for having a real proof of ownership. People can just post a number of coins, and that they have a real proof of ownership and that they want to receive their coins back (don't want to burn them). It will be a sign of their will. But I hope that the community will show the true support and will not claim coins (or only will claim small amounts, by people who are really in a very bad financial situation). These small amounts could be donated to people even without touching these coins. For example, 10,000 coins or 50,000 coins. Of course, big claims should be proved in the future, but for now the question is how to burn everything with no legal risks. Well... looks like there is something else not transparent here. Agswinner claimed that he is in control of Mooncoin_Foundation... So please tell me was he lying or are you lying? Being you and agswinner asking for people to publish here their claims can you tell us who you are and what position you have to ask for documents that should be sent to federal court instead? And based on what are you judging who is in a very bad financial situation and so should receive the coins? P.s. I say whatever I want when I see bullshit like this going on. You are not the federal court, you cannot decide what is right and which claim is legit, you don't put your name here, you don't put your lawyer's name here. Don't try to make everything look like it is fine... it is not. again and again, for those who still do not know me, I am the first supporter (not anonymous for exchanges, Fed court etc verified person..) of mooncoin, and the most damaged by Cryptsy default but have already decided and voted to burn these coins . To make you better understand the amount of my lost coins is over 30 billions. Ok? What should I do more?
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We are communicating with Vassilis via polemarhos (he knows him personally). The consensus amongst legitimate holders of majority of these coins is: coins must be burned.
Vassilis agreed to burn them, but he needs an official document to do that. It will not be so fast to prepare that for him. Also there is a question: to which address to send coins to burn them? I suggested a burn address earlier, but after that people suggested 2 other burn addresses. So the community must also come to the consensus about a burn address. Experts must confirm that the address is really a burn address. If someone wants to claim his/her coins, again: please post in this ANN thread (before coins are burned), because after coins are burned, no one on this Earth will be able to get them. You must be able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of coins which you claim.
This is ludicrous. Why isn't Vassilis posting this himself? He is the main developer, he is the current owner of those coins. He should post these updates. I thought you wanted decentralization Mooncoin_Foundation? How can something be decentralized if in fact the ANN is pulling all the strings. Also, he does not need an 'official document'. In fact, there are barely any laws relating to cryptocurrency; let alone laws regarding the burning of coins. There is no such thing. Nowhere in the world, so neither in V's Greece. He can just burn them whenever he wants, there are no possible official documents. Also, who is to say that claims are indeed legitimate and not fraudulent? This is my claim. The determination is Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted.. CRYPTSY CRYPTOCURRENCY SETTLEMENT DETERMINATION OF RECOGNIZED CLAIM DATE: SEPTEMBER 15, 2017 ANDREA ?............CLAIM NUMBER: 630? ? You submitted a Claim Form in the class action lawsuit styled Brandon Leidel, et al. v. Project Investors, Inc. d/b/a Cryptsy, Paul Vernon, et al., U.S. Dist. Ct. - S.D. Fla. -- Case No. 9:16-cv- 80060-KAM (the Lawsuit). Your Claim Form and supporting documentation have been accepted, and payment will be issued pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement and Plan of Allocation in the Lawsuit.............. this is the easiest way as proof 1) a copy of your claim (only claim accepted) 2) the same documentation sent to the Fed court
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers
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on: February 04, 2018, 04:26:36 PM
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with all the hash power of Bitcoin for exempla the private key can be discovered after 10000 millennia ....
Could you post a link to confirm that? This is a well-known topic, I do not remember now where to find a specific study, instead I remember the calculations of some mathematicians in bitcointalk forum. Quantum computer discover the private key in two minutes if you know the public hash, but without an outgoing transaction the store address is safe for 10000 millennia
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