Hi Rozo,

Welcome to the world of cryptocurrency and mining .  I'm glad you chose to point one of your S7s to my pool, and I'm honored that some of my posts were able to provide you with inspiration and/or knowledge.

Do keep your fingers crossed... I know I am hoping for a Christmas miracle or two

Much obliged for the explanation.  I'm spoiled with bandwidth, so I sometimes forget that not everyone's got hundreds of megabit connections to the world

I'll take a look at those minify versions.  Thanks again for the suggestions and the input.  You keep this up and I might be pinging you for a job in real life... we could always use some detail-oriented performance engineers

Well... I've been running this test for over a year.  Friday (Yep, Christmas) will mark the full year for both miners on OgNasty's nodes.  Looking back through the data, one can clearly see some pretty wild swings in the variance.  Overall?  Not too bad, even with some pretty awful luck streaks.  Unless there's a Christmas miracle this week, standard p2pool payouts will have proven the most profitable by a slim margin.  The OP is updated with the totals and the raw data has been uploaded as well.

Hi Solipsis,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I've looked at the code you mentioned and see that it is indeed full of documentation and comments.  You state that it's 1/10th of my initial page load.  Do you mean just in terms of sheer bytes being sent over the wire?  Is the implication you're making that I'll have better performance if I strip out the majority of the comments/documentation from that file?

LOL... no worries about snooping the source - it's available on github.  I used standard MPOS/NOMP.  I added a few tweaks and fixes on my end to address some of the known issues in them, but otherwise it's pretty much stock.

nicehash.com usually.  MRR also is a good choice but I usually find their prices to be higher.

Surely his shares would have started to fall off the chain by now if the pool truly stopped accepting anything from previous versions as of a couple days ago.  However, his hash rate remains consistent on his pool graphs and according to the stats on windpath's node, he looks like he's got 129TH/s (he's the third highest earnings in p2pool currently).

If he's truly on an older version of p2pool how it is that he's still getting shares onto the chain?  For example, can you explain this: http://61.219.120.109:9332/static/share.html#000000000000003ebbcfa3ecb3527397b7d64035db1ad7b816e18f9a053f63c4

That share was added to the chain today.

Edit: I can also see that share on windpath's node... so it's definitely on the chain.  I can also see it says v4... so I'm not sure what's going on

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.  Without being on the latest version, any blocks they find would be invalid, correct?  In effect, they are indeed performing a block withholding attack because their hash is getting rewards but they'll never produce a block.

6TH definitely qualifies you as "over the dust threshold" LOL

Kano's pool doesn't work like that.  You are paid every block, assuming your contributions are over the dust threshold.

It's because of how many shares he had when the block was found.  When the pool found its first block, there were very few active miners who had contributed any shares.  Therefore, the block reward was divided up into fewer pieces, with each participant getting a larger portion of the pie.

Yes, icezer0z saw 0.5BTC payout that block.  If my pool were to find a block right now, he'd expect to make an even larger payout.

o_solo_miner, I have no idea why anyone would ever think up a sock puppet with a fish or take a picture of it.  But, damn... that is disturbingly funny!

Glad to have you onboard with us Nithmund!  Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any difficulties and I'll be happy to provide you with any support I can.

Unfortunately the block gods were not with me during my rental.  That is sad.  However, we've also gotten a few more miners on the pool and are currently averaging about 40TH.

Thanks to everyone who has joined and I look forward to our next block together

You do realize the guy with whom you're having your discussion is the guy who wrote the mining software that the vast majority of the ~650PH on the network uses, right?

Just checking...

Well... the new difficulty is here, and it was a pretty nasty change of over 18%.

As soon as the current orders on NH start to taper off and the prices for this difficulty kick in, I'll be renting about a petahash for a while.  Let's hope for a Christmas Miracle

I'll post here when I do the rental.

Edit: 1.1PH running for the next 8 hours or so.  Let's nail that next block!

Definitely not one of those people with thousands of coins hanging around... though I wish I was .  No, I've been mining for a couple years - mostly on p2pool - and have made a decent bit of coin.  I used quite a bit of what I've made to fund this adventure, and luckily it paid off far before I thought it would.  That's the thing about mining... a share can hit at any time.

Don't fret... a miner with just a single S3+ (453GH/s) hit a solo block on solo.ckpool not too long ago.  Also, a guy with 2TH has hit a couple as well.  So it can certainly be done.  I was a bit impatient and threw some pretty large rentals at my pool

I had about 1.5PH on my pool when I found the block... not prying at all .  It was on my own dime, too.  I'd spent about 9BTC on my own in rentals before the block hit.  All in all not a bad ROI for me, and the miners on my pool made a pretty decent little payout as well.

As has been pointed out, people have been ripped off for far less than 25BTC.  Also, and I'm glad you had a nosey (great expression by the way) regarding nexious.  It shows that people certainly are wiling to risk it to run the con.  He'd started attracting some miners - many of whom spent months on his pool.  It wasn't until I found the block on his pool that the scam was exposed and the guy ran.

Unfortunately, because the cryptocurrency ecosystem is so new and so many people have been burned (from scamming hardware vendors, to scamming pool operators), that's exactly what happens: books are indeed judged by their covers.

Huh... that's interesting.  I've only ever played with coiniumserv locally to see what it was like compared to some other offerings.  Never gave it much more than a cursory look because of its reliance on mono to emulate the .NET framework on non-windows platforms.  Certainly a bug as glaring as what you're describing should have been noticed

As for you last statement... nobody is trying to con you out of 25BTC.  They want assurances that they won't be conned out of the coin.  That very thing just happened, and was referenced earlier in the thread (look up nexious).  So, -ck very graciously (and then phillipma1957 as well) offered to escrow the 25BTC, so that when a new pool found a block the miners would at least be guaranteed to get their coins in case the pool operator ran off with them like the last guy did.

Thanks everyone .  I'm very grateful for the miners on my pool.  It makes me happy that you have chosen to try out a small pool and that your hashing power is not pointed at the big guys instead.

Yes, we were lucky to have already found our first block.  It was found at about 27.4% of expected shares, so a nice surprise.

Since my announcement here, I've noticed quite a few users have registered, and I want to thank you for doing so!  I'm hoping some more of you will point some of your hashing power to the pool as well.

Looking forward to our next block!

Yes, your alt coin pool.  Assuming you mean this one: http://wemine.uk:89?  I'm curious why you decided to use coiniumserv for your alt coin pools, but went with NOMP/MPOS for your BTC one?

Perhaps I should rephrase what I stated in my previous reply.  Here goes:

It shows a lack of professionalism that you won't even bother to understand the basics of the medium through which you are communicating.  Rather than ask, "Hey, how did you change the font color?" or "Could you show me how to quote snippets?" you glossed over it and gave some lackadaisical answer about the poster showing off.  That made me ask myself, "Is this guy really serious about running a pool or able to provide any support for his pool if he can't even figure out forum software?"

Anyway, good luck.  As has been mentioned a few times, you've picked a pretty tough time to show up and announce a new pool.