Your trust score has nothing do with whether your feedback shows up as trusted or not.
For your feedback to show up as trusted, you would need to appear in one's trust list, or extended trust network (ie joe has bob in his trust list, bob has you in his trust list, then you are in joe's trust network and your feedback would be trusted).
Here is a case where Vod's personal ego was hurt and hence he is denying to remove a -ve feedback, though three people on DefaultTrust (QuickSeller, Shorena, Dooglus) agreed that it is not a scam... Otherwise, logically you should leave -ve feedback on every dice site operator that accepts investment in the bankroll.
I hope I don't have to do that - it would be a lot of needless work.  I'm trying to work out a personal policy to determine when a ponzi should be flagged as a ponzi - so that everyone is treated equally. One of the ways they wouldn't be flagged was if they clearly stated for a reasonable person that they could lose all their money and that a return is not guaranteed. (OP does not do that.) Since the OP called me out as an abuser and contacted my default trust sponsors, I don't feel removing the trust until my policy is developed is an appropriate thing to do - I think the community should stay involved. Edit: It appears the OP has increased the minimum playing amount by tenfold.  Just increased the minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. Hopefully it does NOT affect anyone and make the game more interesting for all...
Vod is trusted by Dooglus & Tomatocage and already untrusted by HostFat. In this scenario, if another user of DefaultTrust level 1 untrust Vod in their trust list, then will Vod's feedbacks lose its power to turn someone red/green ? |
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One other thing that makes me not trust CrazyPonzi. On the front page he says: Total Invested: 28.8602 btc
Total Returned: 28.7858 btc
Bankroll: 00.0745 btc
Total Returned + Bankroll equals the Total Invested! Where is the 5%-10% the system is supposed to take? The numbers are being manipulated somewhere.  The 10% commission is taken from the Total Returned and it can easily be verified by any player who has an account the site. When logged in, if you click on the bet ID, it'll show you the bet details. That clearly mentions that the To be Returned amount is not what gets added to the user's account. 10% gets deducted from it and and then it gets added. When we refer someone, 5% goes to OP and 5% come to us. Nothing is taken if user loses a bet and all remains in the bankroll. Moreover, as I can see, you have alleged that OP has increased minimum amount of bet. Increase of mimimum amount of bet does not skyrocket the bankroll, because as in one hand it'll increase the Total Invested, on the other hand it'll increae the Total Returned too. So, the bankroll will remain as is as that is always the difference between Total Invested & Total Returned. You are just picking up non-issues to wrongly justify your feedback. I wonder why you are silent about obvious scams and trying to malign an honest site. Below are a few example of obvious scams... CryptoPyramid: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480605CryptoMMMCom: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511134 |
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Ohh, I missed that. I only glance at this thread when I want a laugh. I'm sure it's a scam as all the other investment BS on this site is.
Honestly I'm surprised they LET these go on, as if this site is based/hosted in the USA the owner of the site IS responsible by law if someone gets in trouble legally or financially from a scam that was 'allowed' to occur through the site.
All they need is a class-action lawsuit with a few people that got burned over a few month's period and blamo. They can lose the site, get a levy on their advertising accounts, etc.. etc..
Dunno why they even allow these.
I consider them a fun 'what if', since I'm sure they are all scams, so only play with BTC I don't care about, just like with stocks.
Here is to being hopeful that it does pay off sometime though. We can always request an IP from the posters and track them as well as their shell accounts through that as well as expose their BS websites that way,unless the site gets a kick back from them, which means they won't divulge that info. *SHRUG*.
Rule of thumb is, if you see lots of 'Newbie' accounts posting payments and a new person starting the thread, it will be BS after a few days.
I think you played at CrazyPonzi too. What is your experience with that ? Total scam on that one. Only the first day or so did it work after that most larger deposits were bagholders. Note, the BIG 'investors' were more than likely shells and in kahoots with the site. You lost because of the calculated deposit by mettwuerst, which covered only his deposits and not yours. If mettwuerst, who is already known to invest in many other sites, were a shill, then why would he lose his deposit to other players ? He should have keep on covering only his deposit, because he had nothing to lose. If I lose in the game, the site is a SCAM - this behaviour appears funny to me.  CrazyPonzi is still running and people are still winning  |
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Okay, I'm confused now. Why am I under BadBear, if I have never been given trust by him??
This is trust list, not trust feedback. They are different. |
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Ohh, I missed that. I only glance at this thread when I want a laugh. I'm sure it's a scam as all the other investment BS on this site is.
Honestly I'm surprised they LET these go on, as if this site is based/hosted in the USA the owner of the site IS responsible by law if someone gets in trouble legally or financially from a scam that was 'allowed' to occur through the site.
All they need is a class-action lawsuit with a few people that got burned over a few month's period and blamo. They can lose the site, get a levy on their advertising accounts, etc.. etc..
Dunno why they even allow these.
I consider them a fun 'what if', since I'm sure they are all scams, so only play with BTC I don't care about, just like with stocks.
Here is to being hopeful that it does pay off sometime though. We can always request an IP from the posters and track them as well as their shell accounts through that as well as expose their BS websites that way,unless the site gets a kick back from them, which means they won't divulge that info. *SHRUG*.
Rule of thumb is, if you see lots of 'Newbie' accounts posting payments and a new person starting the thread, it will be BS after a few days.
I think you played at CrazyPonzi too. What is your experience with that ? |
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Only ONE pending in the list. Just one in the cue. PERFECT time to invest  High chances of re-payment I dont think you played it well. If your investment expire, Bet# from 228 to 231 will get immediately paid. You should have break up your deposit and bet in installment. |
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I think if you check the current condition, understanding the game will be easier to you. Bet #218 was expired and #219 has been paid. Why ? Because, the bankroll was 0.00198702 BTC, i.e. less than 0.00222264 BTC, but more than 0.00182 BTC. Now, after paying #219, 0.00182 BTC has been deducted from the bankroll and it has gone down to 0.00016702 BTC. If no more investment come in next 24 hour, then #220 will also expire as 0.00016702 < 0.00222264.
You are wasting your time Joker. If someone claims that he did not understand the game even after this explanation and still think that it is a plain Ponzi, then either he is too stupid to judge a scam or plain lying to support the Dice lobby. I think, u contacted Dooglus & TomatoCage. None has chimed in. Even if you convince Shorena, Vod will still keep his feedback. The reason is plain & simple. A few people on this forum does not want an honest investment based game to rise and so that investment based dice sites can keep on stealing. Interestingly, pure scammers are not marked as scammer. Becasue this dice lobby knows those are not the competitor as they'll fail today or tomorrow... e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480605, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511134, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512093 etc. |
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I am not in a position to take any direct action. I tried to create an honest game in the wild west of Investment Based Games section.
Question: How does one create an honest ponzi? Your intention is to steal as much as you can from as many people as you can. Where goes this logic for Nine9.ninja - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954695.0 ? |
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hey guys i was planning to invest my BTC
but what is more profitable among those two?
Dice Site BANKROLL or Cloud Mining
For both, you are solely dependent on Luck. If you want to add strategy with Luck factor, try innovative Social gambling games like CrazyPonzi.com. |
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I deposited 0.1 yesterday, but i still dont' see it on the dashboard (the list of investments)
0.1 BTC deposit wont directly show up in the dashboard. It must have been added to your balance. Now, you need to use that balance to play, which will appear in the dashboard. |
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can you just give us free btc? ill promise itll be put to good use. Contrary to what it seems, this appears to be quiet an interesting game... |
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Three expired and one paid.... and its turn for mettwuerst again It would be interesting to see what happens once the mettwuerst investments expire. All other investments are very close... |
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Did you earn some bitcoin today? If so, how did you do it? BTC
Earning 140% of my investment from www.CrazyPonzi.com. It is not everyday, it is in every 120 hour. But I am more or less satisfied with this return. It is kind of calculated gambling for me. If you earned money here, other users will have loose their money. Is not it true for any gambling site ? In a game, one can only win when others lose. That is part of the game. I won because I do not greed for much and play strategically. |
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What makes it any different from the hundreds of failed ponzis? They all paid out in the beginning and disappeared after their bankroll grown large enough. How do we know the people behind this one weren't part of the others?
No sig here. This is a legit question.
My opinion: Same as all the other ponzis, so when depositing here you should expect the possibility of losing your BTC and should not think of it as a investment.
IMHO the basic principle of CrazyPonzi.com is fundamentally different from its predecessors like WeeklyPonzi.com or NextPonzi.com. All those games were based on classic Ponzi principle, where old players are paid out of new player's investment. But, at CrazyPonzi.com new players may also get paid by old players. How ? Because every investment/bet, whatever you call it, will get expired within 120 hour. So, if one investment/bet get 140% of its value within 120 hour, it will be paid off. Otherwise, it will expire and add up to the bankroll to pay the next investment/bet. In this process, bankroll itself is self-adjusting and hence never goes up. On the other hand, operator gets paid a commission whenever someone gets paid. This is how operator makes more from commission than he could make by stealing the bankroll. This was not the case for WeeklyPonzi.com, NextPonzi.com or its similar variants that run today. Hence running away with the bankroll is simply not economical for the operator of CrazyPonzi.com. p.s. You should note that this is NOT an investment program anyway. This is gambling. I like to call it Social Gambling. |
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I'd like to know the general opinion about this game - www.ChainProfit.comLittle Stats... - 200+ players - 300+ bet placed - 29+ BTC invested in ~45 days. Game logic: Every bet gets 120 hour to be covered by next bets. If it is covered, player gets 140% of the initial bet. Otherwise, his bet will expire and add up to the bankroll to pay next players. Why is this thread moderated ?I myself played in this game and got paid. I think, a few others like me can vouch for the same. It is not economical for the operator to run away with the bankroll as he makes more from commission. I want this game to grow and want constructive crticism of it. Any post aimed at earning from signature campaign by screaming Ponzi few times, will be upright deleted. |
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We have already seen enough programs like this, e.g. WeeklyPonzi.com, NextPonzi.com etc. All are built on the same classic Ponzi Scheme concept where owner makes more money by running away with the fund. The only alternative is games like Nine9.ninja or CrazyPonzi.com. Unless u can build something like them, there is no point in advertising.
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Have you ever tried social gambling ? Its not all about luck... its also about understanding your fellow players. If you have not tried it yet, you may try at www.CrazyPonzi.com. Do NOT get scared at the 'ponzi' word. First check their FAQ. That wont cost you anything A site with ponzi in it is one on the last ones I would play on. You really should change the name.... First of all, I am just a player not the site owner. So I can not change the name of the site. But, I think it is good to call a spade a spade. The gambling game is built on top of the Ponzi principle. So, people must know what they are playing, i.e. the game logic. Hence I like the name they have chosen. If u r not a gambler, u r definitely not going to like this game. But, if u r a gambler, I'd recommend to check the FAQ first and try to understand the game. |
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Did you earn some bitcoin today? If so, how did you do it? BTC
Earning 140% of my investment from www.CrazyPonzi.com. It is not everyday, it is in every 120 hour. But I am more or less satisfied with this return. It is kind of calculated gambling for me. Is that true? Because I every ponzi is always run away after they got enough of their money plus when I saw this website it say that this is a gambling game? But still give use $140 return altough some of them got paid I would strongly suggest NOT to invest a single satoshi unless u properly understand the game. Because, that way u'll only end up accusing it as a scam for no reason. First do understand, your investment here is not secured and that is not because operator will run away with it but because it can expire. That means to say, your investment/bet, whatever you call it, will get 120 hour to be covered. Otherwise, it will expire and add up to the bankroll to pay next investors. Operator takes commission whenever someone gets return and that sums up to an amount more than he'll make from running away with the bankroll. Hence, he never runs away. If u r into gambling, I'd suggest that u check the FAQ first and study the game. Then only decide if the game is for you or not. |
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