Im surprised this thread aint got much visitors. I can see great potential with this coin. it is best to buy while cheap!
Try the forum: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.phpMore activity there  |
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Got a piece of the wall...  |
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it seems I will be featured in a beyond bitcoin podcast this weekend
 Have you had the interview? What is the outline of the discussion: SN, BTCD and NXT I presume? |
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it seems I will be featured in a beyond bitcoin podcast this weekend
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Couple questions from a fatigued mind...
Is the AE offering of TOKEN going to correspond with the Polo ICO? Same date/time?
If you are buying one of these 'day one' on Polo:
TOKEN/BTC TOKEN/NXT, TOKEN/BTCD
Is that ~ the same as buying TOKEN on the NXT AE 'day one' ?
And then...
Then later for trading it will be:
UNITY/BTC, UNITY/NXT, UNITY/BTCD
So if I'm understanding ... UNITY on the NXT AE is not going to be offered on 'day one' ?
When entering these into AE they both relate to the same asset. Why? I was thinking one might be UNITY.
Official SuperNET NXT addr: NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
Official SuperNET TOKEN asset: 15641806960898178066
edit: The last part finally clicked NXT addy vs NXT asset ID
I cannot guarantee exact time to the second, but I will be waiting for the countdown timer and starting the AE sales. the TOKEN on NXT AE and on the exchanges are all the same. Then when all the totals are in, I can issue the exact number of SuperNET assets. Then there are exchanged 1:1 for TOKEN I know it is complicated, but maybe the way to think about it is that you cannot trade a TOKEN, you can only exchange it for SuperNET (symbol: UNITY) and the UNITY is what will trade James So you will add tokens to the AE to bid on or is the AE only for transferring tokens to once purchased on bter, sorry a bit confused whether to transfer nxt to bter. I would rather just buy tokens from the AE if this is going to be an option. |
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@qora: see bold please "SuperNET is the sum of all useful protocols"
useful meaning if it is broken security wise or whatever, then not useful and also if the users dont want to use it, then it is also not useful.
I cannot imagine all coins/assets of the future, but I can imagine SuperNET to be including the best ones that are wanting to tap into the immense user base. SuperNET is allowing the really good devs, who are usually not so good at marketing to have a technical path into what I hope will be the second largest base of users for a crypto, behind bitcoin.
so with the revenue sharing back to the coin community, this means a good dev can quit his fiat job and work fulltime improving his coin/asset
accelerated network effect
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Very professional: really like it! Good work. figured a little teaser of @figrolls ui wouldnt hurt  Also great job on the GUI teaser...as an avid NXT and AE user, I really like seeing "powered by NXT"! |
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Qora needs a business manager more than it needs more developers in my opinion.
I agree. Qora is doing fine developing. I think the "business manager" is what the SN/jl777 would bring to qora: jl777 definitely has business acumen and knows how to make money trading. One quick question concerning James' SuperNet IPO - my understanding is that money from the IPO will be used to buy majority stakes in coins with original source right? (meaning.. no clones)
Yea, no clones.... ...looks like everyone, including qora, is down for leaving SN to go ahead without Qora. AE coming soon. |
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Guess it's not possible to remove IPO from OP header ...?
there is no IPO in the OP header There is "IPO" in the header of thesupernet.org |
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Sill waiting for CZ updates: ready to buy or sell based on facts
sell where? trading is frozen... BTC/BBR open at poloniex. XMR/BBR open at poloniex. |
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Sill waiting for CZ updates: ready to buy or sell based on facts
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Waiting for CZ to update: does this "flaw" affect BBR or not?
Edit: any link to the discussion of the technical problem with CN?
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As far as i know it isn't a coin at all, but correct me if i'm wrong
It is just SuperNET There will be the coins inside of SuperNET, but SuperNET itself is not a coin. Technically it is a NXT asset NXT AE, mgwBTC and mgwBTCD satisfy all donation options so... Why poloniex and not NXT AE? If broader adoption only, those not familiar with NXT and NXT AE may want to begin familiarization through the donation. ...especially as you say, this is technically a NXT asset. |
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BTCD, NXT, BBR. Maybe i forget some. Please show some love to those near and dear (BTCDers) sir James: mind sharing the shortlist of applicants? strikethrough just seemed like the right think to do  |
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New QORA Poll: Please Vote! Deadline September 10, 2014 Name: should qora strive to be part of btcd (bitcoindark) supernet core?Description: There is a new vision/space emerging in the altcoin world and it's called the SuperNET. An initiative born from the idea that ALL cryptocurrencies would thrive through UNITY and anonymity (or being "dark"). An invitation has been announced by the devs of bitcoindark (BTCD) to participate as an innovative CORE altcoin in its vision to unite. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8592943#msg8592943Current standings: Yes - 36% No - 63% |
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How is this different to the completely decentralised trading inside Qora? Sure not alt to alt but Qora to assets including fiat etc.
Can Qora still act independently it's exchange?
Is it reversible, ie can we leave later of we want.
Qora does have plans to do alt to alt trading I thought but admits it's never been doe and could be tough or even impossible?
Yes, you can back out of this. Certain layers to these decentralized services are still being developed, but the end-goal is to have a way for people to create a deposit address for one coin (Qora, from my last example) and then set a payment address (DOGE) and then set the trade price. This is just like any exchange, except through the use of multisig addresses, it's semi-decentralized. If you want to cancel YOUR QORA->DOGE order, before it is filled, you can and you will get back your QORA. Can these services be built on top of QORA, once the asset exchange is up? Certainly! However, Nxt has a huge head start and has an agressive dev team, and community of supported services. Again, can Qora compete? Yes, and it should. But don't be naive and think that we're near catching up. Right now these Nxt Services are mostly developed by JL777 and the run on top of Nxt. If Qora and an extra dev, or two, integrated all of these services into the client/server code, and made it easy for anyone to run their own multisig gateway, Qora could (and should!) get a ton of attention. I understand the possible technical services after your comment but in response to "What's the point of being linked together" mentioned by rabbiter, I have to add that I think there is much more to the supernet financially speaking that has not been mentioned. The bigger vision seems to be about bringing more fiat/new investors into the crypto space, raising the market caps for BTCD, the SN coins (so far NXT and BBR, a dark coin) and first and foremost believe it or not, BTC market cap. This will overall bring in more users, fiat and raise market caps for other coins. The anonymity feature, teleporting, (in addition to the numerous others mentioned) is critical for this, as certain human circles can only bring in fiat if the crypto is supporting dark. So with increased influx of fiat, all win. The big win here is that BTCD (the center of the SN) can darken BTC. Regarding "why bring these SN core coins together" apart from the features? This may be off the wall, but I suspect this is the beginning of a new type of movement: there are good coins with lots of tech and original code (Qora, BTC, NXT, a handful of others) and there are useful coins/forks that have original features or new algos and there are clones and other coins that are being made as a high school science project that add no value to the space except to the schoolboy's technical ability. The SN will raise a LOT of capital. Apparently 90% of this capital will be used to buy stakes from core coins (less than 10% stakes apparently), immediately doubling or tripling or more their market caps. This is in addition to the feature integrations mentioned. I suspect some of the capital will be used to invest (pump) other coins that may not be part of the core but will increase holdings. So if all goes to plan, in the short term, huge financial gains and exposure. In the long term, survival through major adoption and sustained usage. ...Qora will be strong in the long run with or without the SN, but with the SN Qora could quickly adopt to the rapidly changing landscape of winners (with massive market cap) and those coins struggling to attract attention and reach $1M market cap. Of course, all of this talk is nothing if Qora is not willing to apply. Only Qora knows the code and can see the technical benefits, drawbacks and possibilities of joining forces. An an investor and crypto speculator, I hope Qora will join this discussion. Note: I have skin in the SN game. I own BTCD, BBR and NXT (and an original Qora stakeholder) so I have interest in the SN even if Qora decides against it. |
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I have questions about the Supranet and how that helps or hinders Qora long term and if we can opt out later.
We should discuss this HERE now. Not on some hidden chat either and I would hope Qora shares his viewpoint too before any vote happens.
Questions/discussions are good....regarding the supernet helping or hindering Qora, what questions do you have? (if you haven't read the OP to the supernet, it's well worth the time: a bit long post but worth the read). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8592943#msg8592943I'm pulling for QORA here and based on what I've read only think the supernet could help Qora...in what way would being a participant hinder Qora? why opt out later? Please expound. Of course, I have posted this vote but the outcome means absolutely nothing unless Qora is part of the discussion and is receptive to the voting results. You and I (and the community) would all like to hear from Qora but as we all know, he rarely posts on this thread and usually only to update the client...I've PMed him in only hopes of a response to either say maybe, yes (let's try) or no to the supernet...he's probably busy with coding AE but I agree, we need his input. Edit: I truly believe Qora is completely original code from the ground up as Qora has stated and as facts show. But until this statement is proven by a third party (apart from JL from NXT) or through SC release, I/we could be wrong. Qora would need to be vetted to be a part of the SN core and this vetting would prove Qora's originality while keeping it still only under the eyes of qora and the supernet dev....of course with OS to follow if Qora decides. Edit2: when an opportunity like this comes up...why not try?! This could be THE ideal launching pad for Qora (in addition to AE, wallet, etc planned). It would give Qora the possibility to be part of a cutting edge vision...I think Qora already has this vision so it's a good fit in my book. @qora, are you even aware of the SN? |
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It will never be accepted to SuperNet without open source, so its a waste of time to talk about it at this point.
Of course along these lines, Qora would need to share the SC or part of the code with jl777 only to "prove" Qora is what it says it is... i.e. kill 2 birds with one stone....then release code or partial code soon after AE, wallet and/or supernet. Edit - I correct you when you say it's a "waste of time" to talk about. The trash talk, fud and troll posts I read on this thread (about 75% of posts) are a waste of time...being part of the SuperNET is NOT a waste of time. |
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