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1201  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin network unimportant disadvantages on: June 06, 2021, 10:51:43 PM
Well, What I meant is that even if mining is the only solution, why is it all that big? Is there really no easier way than that programmatically?
If you want something that isn't as complex, you can implement a database systems which doesn't require much computational power at all, ie. Visa. That hardly helps with decentralization or security at all.

Mining in the context of PoW offers a way for the network to achieve consensus and at the same time having huge amount of costs being incurred. In Bitcoin and other similar cryptos, mining is a necessity in the system. I find the issue pretty much discussed to death. There are obviously various solutions that probably require less resource consumption... Is Bitcoin going to switch to that? Probably not. That is the end of discussion.
1202  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin network unimportant disadvantages on: June 06, 2021, 10:15:55 PM
How important is mining to be one of the downsides of Bitcoin (the largest currency) so far? Why was not resorting to an easier solution, as in these currencies today?

Why with so many options (replace by fee and the like), would it have been so much easier to just send and receive bitcoin and at the same time be decentralized and no mining?
Same argument can be made against most activities that produces huge amounts of emissions on a daily basis yet providing less utility than Bitcoin.

Sure, PoW does result in quite a lot of environmental impact. That is a feature, where it is necessary to incur large costs to provide security for the network. There has been plenty of arguments made against PoW but it doesn't really make sense to change. Bitcoin doesn't produce any emission, mining does. If anything, the responsibility of this lies on the government to reduce the electrical consumption through regulatory measures. Don't really understand why RBF is in this conversation.

There are plenty of other ways to try to ensure consensus but none of them incurs as much costs as Bitcoin which is what we're looking for. Even if there is a better method, changing the algorithm involves getting the approval of the various stakeholders which is practically impossible.
1203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does a PUBLIC Bitcoin Burn address really exist? on: June 06, 2021, 03:24:50 PM
You then mentioned “However, those address do have a private key (actually many private keys) provided the associated public key is valid, but we are almost certain nobody knows what they are” This  is concerning ..Will people question the foundation of our entire project because of some of the things you pointed out about these two commonly known as “Bitcoin burn address”.  

 Back to the utility of WHY. The function we are in pursuant of is pretty simple. A bitcoin user sends Bitcoin to an  Annihilation Addresses. If we are to use the above addresses We would simply use transaction details through explorer to verify the Bitcoin were in fact “Evolved’ or Burnt/ Removed officially from Bitcoin circulation in an undisputed manner. After checking all transaction details and making sure we are in chat or on the line with the specific user . Then we would issue the user  ACOEV at a ratio of 1 to 1.

Your assessment of OP RETURN as having a learning curve or “struggle to do it, and most wallets don't support it “ as you put . These variable might rule it out as a viable solution for the utility we are looking for.
No. The probability of anyone generating a private key that corresponds to those address is so astronomically small, which is the same as trying to break any other address given sufficiently random entropy. There is simply no reason for people to doubt whether you're generating an address that is in fact not intended to be a burn address.

Inclusion of OP_return is quite trivial, wallets like Electrum and Bitcoin Core all supports it. By parsing the blockchain for matching strings in the OP_return, you will be able to identify those which were burned for your purpose. That is not difficult and should be pursued if you don't want to contribute to blockchain bloat.
1204  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitCoin: is it really finite? on: June 06, 2021, 02:26:42 AM
It is finite.

Bitcoin's block rewards follows a geometric progression where the rewards halves every 210,000 blocks. If you were to take the sum of the geometric progression, it would be 21 million. This means that in a scenario whereby you have infinite number of blocks, the total supply cannot exceed 21 million no matter how divisible it gets. Making something more divisible doesn't change the fact that the total supply is the same. The value of each denomination is still proportionally smaller.
1205  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Is there a way of avoiding unnecessary outputs due to fee rate adjustments? on: June 06, 2021, 12:08:13 AM
It shouldn't happen. After the user clicks Max, Electrum will send all the remainder after the fees when the user adjusts the fees in the advanced preview and should never send anything back to the change address. I'm unable to replicate this. When you adjust the fees in the advanced preview, did Electrum add another change address at that point?
1206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Core starts to load then shuts down on: June 05, 2021, 02:10:27 PM
Since the log doesn't show anything useful, i have an suggestion to collect more information. You need to start Bitcoin Core from Command Prompt (CMD) and see if it print any information. Here's short guide if you don't know how to do it.
There isn't anything when you run Bitcoin Core with CMD. It'll only run Bitcoin Core and not display anything else.

Anyhow OP, if that is all you get from the debug.log. It is an ungraceful shutdown, debug.log will have several lines about shutting down Bitcoin Core instead of just stopping there abruptly. Is there any antivirus or any administration programs that blocks Bitcoin Core from running? Inter-Logic seems like some company that is involved in IT management, is it a company device?
1207  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: How can tainted coins becomes hard to be recognized by centralized services on: June 05, 2021, 11:55:35 AM
Has anyone here who uses gambling platforms, mixers, CoinJoins, etc., had their coins confiscated or blocked by a centralized exchange? What did they say and how was the issue resolved? I am trying to find out how widespread of a problem it is because I have never experienced it myself. Of course, you have to use centralized exchanges to get in those kind of problems. I am saying that to stop people from replaying they never had those problems because they use DEXs.  
An example here: https://twitter.com/bittlecat/status/1207621591820951552. They resolved it by returning the funds and here is their official response: https://www.binance.com/en/blog/414733786553217024/CZ-on-Regulations-Exchanges--Privacy. To a larger extent, Coinbase has always been known to block accounts that were sending to/from gambling site, that is much more common. Also, another example here: https://twitter.com/McHodled/status/1222172084610027523. Examples are non exhaustive.

I've never been banned while using ChipMixer on Binance, not saying that it is immune just that CoinJoins are a lot more obvious.

Exchanges (and governments) want to track their users and don't like it when their users attempts to evade it.
1208  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Need a free api to calculate transaction FEE for instant confirmation on: June 05, 2021, 10:55:00 AM
That should be enough unless you are really unlucky and you send a low-fee transaction at a time where we have to wait for 30-40 minutes for the next block, while in the meantime a huge influx of new higher-paying transaction enters the mempools. Not to mention a sudden price surge or drop of value and the congestions they usually bring to the table.   
It only works assuming that the both the blocks and the rate of transactions are approximately constant. Most fees estimation takes into the fee rates for the previous blocks and use the data points to build out their own fee estimation. This is by far the most accurate way to eliminate volatility of the block intervals as it takes into account a much larger history. If the block were to be mined 10 seconds before and you choose a 1vMB from tip, it would at the very least take 2 blocks to confirm or perhaps even longer.

If you think estimatesmartfees has too conservative of an estimate, then you can change the parameters if you're using Bitcoin Core for a more economical one. While it is by no means perfect, it is a far better estimation than what we can do by looking at the mempool distribution.
1209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can unconfirmed transactions be automatically cancelled by RBF on: June 05, 2021, 10:40:51 AM
Not necessarily.

The rule states the total number of transactions evicted from the mempool must not exceed 100 transactions. That does not mean all 100 have to be a single parent to child chain, such as A -> B -> C -> D -> etc. I could create a parent transaction with 2 outputs, create two new unconfirmed transactions - one from each of those outputs - with a further 2 outputs each, create four new unconfirmed transactions from each of those outputs, and so on. I could even just create a single parent transaction with 100 outputs, and then spend each of those outputs. The ancestor count will be well under 25 for all the children, while an RBF on the parent would still have to evict >100 transactions.
Thanks.. I misinterpreted the BIP and thought it was referring to a single transaction chain.
1210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If btc fully mined who take the full security on: June 04, 2021, 05:53:50 PM
Instead of spamming useless posts like this, do try to use Google. There are plenty of information on this, either on Bitcointalk or elsewhere and there is really no need for another one.

Bitcoin mining will be subsidized by the transaction fees with the equilibrium on the revenue/cost maintained by the difficulty.
1211  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: How can tainted coins becomes hard to be recognized by centralized services on: June 04, 2021, 05:44:11 PM
Will the exchange know that I am sending the coin to myself after the use of different addresses?
Depends on how you're making use of it. If there are certain heuristics that can identify the correct traits (round outputs, 1 to 1 transactions), then there is little to no taint being removed as there is still a fairly high certainty that people would assume that both addresses are linked in some way. Though obviously you're still able to tell the exchange that you do not control those addresses in the chain, I wouldn't bet on it.

Or, which other wallet other than Bitcoin core that I can manually do it safely? With what I checked online, the fee for ricochet on Samourai wallet is truly 0.002 btc, which is too high for me when I can have the time to go ten hops on noncustododial wallet with just 0.0005 btc or lower in fee when mempool is non congested. Samourai wallet will be good for high Bitcoin amount because the fee needed is too high.
You can replicate whatever Samourai does yourself; send your coins through multiple hops, adding a change address for each, different time intervals, fees, etc. Basically just making it seem as if each of the transactions were sent by different people in different wallets. Benefit of Samourai is that it's done automatically and thus prevents user's incompetence from ruining their privacy.

So, most exchanges will and should give the benefit of doubt to their user. Unless proven by a direct link, there is no basis for an exchange to assume that the transaction path was initiated by the same person. There is a reason why (or at least what I've seen) that exchanges only take action with direct CoinJoin transactions or transactions from gambling sites.
1212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POS instead POW on: June 04, 2021, 02:58:43 PM
With PoS, the more coins you hold, the more power you have over the network. Now think of the huge exchanges such as Coinbase and Binance — think about how much power they'd have. Bitcoin with PoS is simply a disaster.
Exactly. However, it is important to note that monopoly will exist in most systems, if it is fundamentally based on the virtue of whoever having more resources being in an advantage.

The problem with PoS mainly lies with how it doesn't require consumption of resources during the mining process. If the process doesn't cost the miners any resources, then there is lesser incentives for a miner to be honest. PoW functions with the fact that there is so much resources being consumed during the process and it would undoubtedly cost the miners a lot if they were to try to attack Bitcoin. The resource consumption is what keeps Bitcoin secure, if you can't come to terms with it, you should probably criticize the financial systems around the world for their electrical consumption as well.
1213  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Broadcasting the raw transaction encrypted? on: June 04, 2021, 12:14:39 PM
By any chance, are you talking about this https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1024?
This: https://github.com/jonasschnelli/bips/blob/master/bip-0324.mediawiki actually.

It isn't designated as a BIP yet in the main repository.
Since the data that is communicated between bitcoin nodes doesn't contain anything that is not already public (ie. blocks, transactions and node addrs) and also since that data (the blocks and transactions) can not be modified by a middle man without invalidating them there is no point in encrypting that data itself.
ISPs can do whatever a sybil attack can do, as they have MITM abilities. That and since they monitor both incoming and outgoing traffic, they will be able to determine the transactions that are related to the user, with a fairly high certainty.

Yes, if you need to hide the fact that you're using Bitcoin, you need Tor.
1214  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: How can tainted coins becomes hard to be recognized by centralized services on: June 04, 2021, 12:07:30 PM
Although, the mempool was not congested at all, which is a great opportunity that ricochet can be done with low fee. Although, I may not have to use Samourai wallet for it as I can simply send my Bitcoin from one address to another address until I am pleased, which can be done on electrum.
AFAIK, Samourai actually charges a fee for that feature as well. I think 0.002BTC per ricochet?

* Since I have been on this forum, I have never heard of Samourai wallet before (although I have known the wallet since a year or two ago), is the wallet not recommendable? Or is there any vulnerability seen in the wallet that makes people to abstain from using it?
No vulnerability, or at least any important one that I am aware of.

First of all, "taint" is a concept that isn't always accurately interpreted. Taint often has different measurements across various exchanges or blockchain analysis companies and it is impossible to tell how they actually determine the taint. Using historical data will not always be accurate. Samurai's method introduces the hops which can help the user provide plausible deniability by claiming that they were not directly involved in said illegal activities. Exchanges has often disregarded taint due to its inaccuracy but rather take actions solely based on the transaction that is sent to their exchange, be it a CoinJoin sent directly or from a gambling site. In this respect, having multiple hops will help.

It is not a guarantee for the service that you're using to assume that the coins are clean just because they've been through multiple hops. There can be tell tale signs, eg. having the hops within a short period of time, 1 to 1 transaction, etc. It is far better for the user to be using a service like that if they don't know what they're trying to achieve here. Electrum should definitely not be used; the server will know that you're just sending your funds to yourself, unless you assume multiple identities for each transfer.
1215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: What Should I do ? Status: Status: 0/unconfirmed, not in memory pool on: June 04, 2021, 05:09:37 AM
Right click on the transaction, select 'Copy raw transaction'. Go to Help > Console and type in the following:

sendrawtransaction [Paste the string here]

The raw transaction is copied to your clipboard, you'll have to replace the field accordingly.
1216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Centralization in BTC Decentralization on: June 04, 2021, 04:19:08 AM
This is unfortunately a side effect of PoW, where miners will always flock to places which gives them the greatest profit margin. There is nothing you can do about this.

The government needs to control at least 51% of the network's hashrate to effectively enact any censorship or attacks. That comes at quite a huge cost, especially since ASICs are fairly proprietary and you have to specifically buy Bitcoin ASICs. While it is certainly possible for government to try to seize as many mining farms as possible, I highly doubt that it would reach an extent where they can get that much hashrate. There is currently little incentive for government to do so.
1217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can unconfirmed transactions be automatically cancelled by RBF on: June 03, 2021, 11:26:01 PM
It's also important to note that if the original transaction has more than 99 child transactions, it can't be replaced no matter how much fee the replacement transaction pays.
Actually, since Bitcoin Core limit the number of ancestor transactions in an unconfirmed chain to 25, the 99 child transaction is quite redundant. You wouldn't be able to do RBF with anything longer than that as the transactions simply wouldn't have even been relayed.

I think the BIP is a bit outdated and the limit was changed after the BIP was drafted.
1218  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Unconfirmed Stuck Transaction QT/Core / Network Synch Issue on: June 03, 2021, 04:29:25 PM
(Bitcoin QT, technically)  I’m actually thinking now that this is the way to go for me.
I checked out https://electrum.org/#home .  They mention “Electrum is fast, because it uses servers that index the Bitcoin blockchain.”  So, am I correct that I would not need to resync?  I probably should have done this in the first place.  
You don't. It will send the addresses to the server and the downside being you're exposing your privacy to whichever server you're using. The process can be slightly complicated as well.
Where do I find my private keys?  Are they somewhere in the “wallet.dat” file?
You can dump your private keys in its entirety. Install the latest Bitcoin Core and go to Help>Console and type in :
Code:
dumpwallet D:/wallet
Replace D:/ with the directory you want. The output will be a file named wallet with all of the private keys in it, you can open it with a text editor. Since you're downloading Bitcoin Core anyways, just synchronize it fully and transfer your funds elsewhere.

No I don’t want to blame him for the terminology.  His proposal was to set up a Linux component on my PC and install the Linux version of Core then copy over the blockchain and the rest of the wallet info and run it that way.  I have decided that this solution is too elaborate to be appealing.  Also, I don’t really have 500GB of free space to play with, so would need to address that.  Also not sure if I could have just copied the blockchain or would have had to resync?  I am not interested in doing that again.    
If you are not familiar with Linux or running a dual boot, I really recommend you to not do so. It'll probably end up complicating things more than it needs to be. You can prune the blockchain as well, if size is of any concern.

In weighing my options I feel that installing and importing my keys to Electrum is less out there than the above.  
My helper recommended not installing an unsigned .exe which is not something I was thinking about originally but I definitely see his point.  I’m assuming the Electrum .exe is signed?
There is next to no point. The unsigned binary is as safe if you can use certutil to check the SHA256 sum of the file, and if it matches with the signed PGP message (which you can verify), then it would be safe. Electrum's binaries are signed but it doesn't mean that it is safe, you still have to validate it using PGP. I'm hoping your helper knows what he is doing.

We’re nearing the end of this if the whole Electrum thing goes smoothly.  Does anybody have any other Electrum info that I need to know?  
Remember to validate your installation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240594.0
1219  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Broadcasting the raw transaction encrypted? on: June 03, 2021, 01:08:43 PM
How's that possible? If I encrypted my transaction separately for each node, none of the ISPs would know which one started it.
Traffic analysis as a deanonymizing attack works best for sybil attacks but not particularly useful for individual transactions.

It is mostly not feasible for mass surveillance as the size of a transaction is so small and there is definitely some delay before it reaches one of their monitoring nodes. Traffic is constantly being used most of the time a 300 byte spike gives little to no indication unless you're specifically being targeted. At which point, traffic analysis would be the least of your worries.


Hadn't thought of this, thanks! Although, I'm not sure if it's legal for an ISP to do that. Besides, whether they intend to perform this or not, wouldn't be better to try at least be more private? I feel that it's better than just throwing the raw transactions into their face.
Legality is not in the question here. The user doesn't have to know.

Without being sure that the connection is authentic with no MITM, an encrypted connection is practically useless.

Can I have a brief explanation of why MITM attacks can't happen with certificates?
MITM attacks can happen and has already happened with certificates, self-signed or not. Self-signed is outright insecure, CA-signed is merely as useful if the ISP/government doesn't have the means to coerce some trusted CA to make one for them. Being sure of the stream being encrypted with no MITM requires the user to specifically verify that the certificate is correct with the owner of the other node, or trust the CA to be certifying them correctly.
1220  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Extended seed phrase safe for future updates? on: June 03, 2021, 11:59:56 AM
For the first few days it was a normal Electrum Wallet. Then I made it a read only wallet and deleted the first one
There is little point when you're generating the wallet on an online computer and making it a watch-only wallet afterwards. It'll only protect you if your computer gets compromised afterwards (assuming you deleted the wallet properly without any means to recover it). It does nothing if the malware is already in your computer, which is more often than not the case.
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