I've been trying to access my Havelock account all fall. It also is giving me a 2fa error. The thing is, Authy and GAuthenticator moved all my codes over from my previous phone, and there isn't a Havelock key on it. Their support seems to have copy/pasted various messages to me without actually reading(or responding) to my requests. Primarily the please sign a message with the private key you used to deposit on Havelock!!!
It's been 4 years now or something like that. I don't have whatever wallet I was using. I just want to pull my 3BTC out. I'm starting to wonder if they're breaking accounts on purpose or something. I hope not...
I know your pain... Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me. Keep emailing them, keep responding to their questions as best you can, keep making noise and you will get access to the account and your money back! Well I did anyway, but it was painful... |
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Not the first time SafeDice has gone for a short period of time.
I am sure it welcome back up soon enough!
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Bitvest is getting some serious betting volume ( https://bitvest.io/charts)! The site is getting more volume by the day and keeping the big players (like n8) - Congratulations! Awesome to watch  |
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Might be worth thinking about Bitvest again - They are doing really well now the risk profile has changed!
We are giving serious consideration to it. The site listened to the investors and made a move - great to see! |
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KingDice back to positive,
Crypto-Games has now made over 30% on a Bitcoin basis to date.
SafeDice slightly down for the week
Finally the update  . Are u planning to invest in some other sites in the near future? Btw. thank you for the thread you inspired me to invest (a few bucks 100-200€) in different websites and altcoins. I created an excel sheet and a vlog to track everything. Thanks zzTAz! Glad it helped you make the decision to invest  We are always looking around at other sites to invest in! |
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Week 23 returns to date:  KingDice back to positive, Crypto-Games has now made over 30% on a Bitcoin basis to date. SafeDice slightly down for the week |
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Latest Weekly returns!  |
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With bitcoin's value skyrocketing this investment is excellent.
Just a suggestion to make the weekly presentation better. Maybe put the percentage numbers by ones instead of by tens. If it looks dirty and unreadable then maybe at least make it at least 5% gaps.
Good idea - will try and tidy it up a bit Yeah we have over doubled our $3,000 investment now thanks mostly to the rise in Bitcoin! |
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Hi Coinbet24, I can't withdraw my affiliate balance this month. Seems to be a problem verifying my email address - When I request the verification email be sent it doesn't come. Cheers, Bitcoin Gambling Reviews. EDIT - Got it |
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A little bit late this week but it is the festive season We have now made over 1 Bitcoin in profit in less than 5 months from our Bitcoin Gambling Investment.   |
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haha yeah the bankroll is pretty small at the moment so anyone who invests are seeing a lot of the action! |
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Just about to make our first Bitcoin in Profit! Great start from KingDice   |
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4 months and 2 weeks now and we have added KingDice to our investments (took 1 Bitcoin out of Crypto-Games).   |
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This is a great idea, I liked the answers I got from the questions I asked and I might do a blog post on it. If you have any specific questions you want asked let me know and I will ask the admin.
The following questions seem to be appropriate: 1. What is their max win amount, and how does it change with the change in the size of the bankroll? 2. Is it possible to divest immediately, and if not, what is the grace period then? 3. What fees are charged for investing and divesting? I have been following your thread for a long time and i have to warned that this investment on kingdice. With just 1btc invested can make up 7.5% of the bankroll, it seems like the bankroll is very small and the site does not have a strong rep yet.
But when it reaches the size of BetKing, you may already be too late to the party. I'm myself thinking about investing a small amount into their bankroll, something like 0.1 BTC, just testing waters. Let's see how it plays out in the end! Good questions which I asked already (if you are reading this KingDice and I say something incorrect, please correct me): 1) 1% of the bankroll is max win. It changes dynamically with the balance. 2) Divest is instant with no fee or grace period. 3) 0 for divesting (but 50% of the next profits taken out weekly). Thanks for the consolidated update in one post. I didn't understood the third point. What is this meaning ' but 50% of the next profits taken out weekly " ? Divest can be done without any fee but what is this 50%? Sorry for the confusion I didn't understand the question 100%. So there is no fee to invest or divest however the house takes 50% of the sites profits/loses and the other 50% is shared with the investors. |
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This is a great idea, I liked the answers I got from the questions I asked and I might do a blog post on it. If you have any specific questions you want asked let me know and I will ask the admin.
The following questions seem to be appropriate: 1. What is their max win amount, and how does it change with the change in the size of the bankroll? 2. Is it possible to divest immediately, and if not, what is the grace period then? 3. What fees are charged for investing and divesting? I have been following your thread for a long time and i have to warned that this investment on kingdice. With just 1btc invested can make up 7.5% of the bankroll, it seems like the bankroll is very small and the site does not have a strong rep yet.
But when it reaches the size of BetKing, you may already be too late to the party. I'm myself thinking about investing a small amount into their bankroll, something like 0.1 BTC, just testing waters. Let's see how it plays out in the end! Good questions which I asked already (if you are reading this KingDice and I say something incorrect, please correct me): 1) 1% of the bankroll is max win. It changes dynamically with the balance. 2) Divest is instant with no fee or grace period. 3) 0 for divesting (but 50% of the next profits taken out weekly). |
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For everyone's information - I am speaking with the admin at kingdice at the moment and asking a lot of questions. We may end up investing there as well. Could you start a separate thread or post the list of questions and respective answers from KingDice here after you finish your inquiry? In my view, a lot of people would be interested to hear what they have to say and then decide about investing their coins into the bankroll of that casino. A chart with their former results would be greatly appreciated too. This is a great idea, I liked the answers I got from the questions I asked and I might do a blog post on it. If you have any specific questions you want asked let me know and I will ask the admin. In the meantime we now have 1 Bitcoin invested in KingDice! Will report on it as per the other investments weekly Come on KingDice!I have been following your thread for a long time and i have to warned that this investment on kingdice. With just 1btc invested can make up 7.5% of the bankroll, it seems like the bankroll is very small and the site does not have a strong rep yet. Appreciate hearing your concern for us and a new dice site definitely comes with risks. At least making this public with our investment and constantly covering it, the community here can get some good insights. If the site does go well, it is very exciting to have such a large amount of the bankroll in my opinion. Some quick stats - the site takes 50% of the net profit and the HE is 1%. Net profit share is much better than off every bet in my opinion. There is no kelly options yet or maybe that will not be added and the max win is 1% of the bankroll. This is a little more leveraged than Crypto-Games for example (approx 0.5% of bankroll), but Crypto-Games also has a lower HE at 0.8% for Dice. So I think this is a pretty reasonable profit share split. I am not a big dice gambler personally, but I do rate the graphic design and user interface of the site a lot more than most of the Bitcoin Dice sites around. Let's see how we go in the weeks ahead We will let everyone know! |
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If I recall correctly, BetKing was offering somewhere around 450 Bitcoin Max bet when the bankroll was at 4500 Bitcoin? If this max bet won, regardless of what you had invested, you would stand to lose 10% for the bet and another 2.5% (?) for the commission for -12.5% of your investment from one bet.
I think you may have it wrong. BetKing was allowing each investor to set their own 'Kelly multiplier". If a player won 10% of the bankroll that loss would have been borne by those investors with the highest Kelly multipliers. Any investor with a regular 1x multiplier would have lost no more than 1% of their investment on any roll. It's not unreasonable to allow investors to use high leverage so they don't have to expose themselves to so much counterparty risk so long as you don't force it on everyone. Also, the commission was 25% of the profits plus 25% of the house edge. In the case of a winning player there's no profit, so the commission is just 25% of the house edge, or 25% of 1% of the stake, or 0.25% of the stake. Since it's the max profit per bet that is fixed and not the max stake, the commission depends on the payout multiplier. If the winning player bet at 98% (a roughly 1.010204x payout multiplier) to win 450 BTC profit, their stake would need to be 44100 BTC, and the commission on that bet would be 0.25% of that, or 110.25 BTC, in which case the investor at 1x Kelly would be losing 1.245% of their investment at most. At the other extreme, if the winning play bet at 0.0001% (a 990,000x payout multiplier) to win 450 BTC profit, their stake would need to be just 0.00045454 BTC, and so the commission on that bet would be pretty much zero, and the investor ends up losing at most 1.00000101% of their investment. All this is moot now of course since betking is moving from a model where investors get to keep 50% of the expected profit (before expenses) and can divest whenever they like to a new exciting model where they keep 30% of the profit (after expenses) and cannot divest. Always nice to have an accurate and insightful post from dooglus |
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