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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What made you start using a new casino. on: August 02, 2026, 11:24:04 AM
Honestly, trust and licensing are first filter before anything else. While they may sound great on surface, betting requirements that come with bonuses make it almost impossible to take out money, most players do not read fine print until they are stuck.

Reputation in communities is more interesting spark. Nothing beat trusted recommendation from experienced player than welcome bonus. This is why crypto casino communities on forums such as this one have greater impact on player movement than advertising.

But new experience as reason is underestimated, too, when newness of a current platform wears off, game range and software providers are more important than people realize.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why HODLing is such a genius strategy on: August 02, 2026, 11:06:17 AM
HODLing is a strategy par excellence which matters if you want to make a profit from Bitcoin.
You just have to keep your Bitcoins safe and hope for price rises. It's all you have to consider when HODLing, and it's what makes such a strategy so popular. You don't have to worry about it, as long as you have sent your Bitcoins to an address for HODLing. You don't even have to reallocate your portfolio, Bitcoin HODLing is timeless par excellence.
When someone invests intelligently by implementing long-term HODLing, there's no reason they can't achieve substantial returns. That's why HODLing is the most rational strategy to implement to maximize investment returns. There's also the advantage of implementing this strategy people don't need to worry so much about Bitcoin's short-term performance because our target is long-term asset growth. Investing using this strategy focuses on the accumulation phase, allowing us to slowly increase our Bitcoin holdings.

Historically, Bitcoin has performed quite well in the long term, considering the cycle, so there's confidence that HODLing can be quite profitable. This confidence can be formed if someone understands the investment pattern they're pursuing, thus understanding the targets they need to achieve. By HODLing, anyone will achieve maximum returns based on the amount of capital they invest.
HODLing does work, but the "anyone will achieve highest returns" is bit of a mask for some uncomfortable truths. If you bought in December 2017 at $19k, you would have held it for more than three years to break even. That is not temporary trouble, it is test of faith for most everyday investors and one that history shows they rarely pass. The strategy further assumes that you will not need the money during down market, which is not the case for everybody. Impatience caused the death of more HODLers than forced selling at the bottom. While core strengths of Bitcoin are still solid in long run, it is bad idea to suggest that HODLing is only way to get best returns, as that gives investors false sense of safety and bad risk management advice.
3  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: August 02, 2026, 03:57:09 AM

Well I don't know aise cheezy log share karty ha ky nahi, but honestly Mai bohout kush ho muj sy Raha nahi gaya and I decided to share it here as I become the third officially DT1 after Shahzadafzal and irfan_pak10 at Pakistan local thread. Ap Mai sy bohout sy logo ko DT ka pata nahi hota toh Mai smaja daita hu, basically DT stand for default trust, like ik Tarah sy yeh theymos ka trust list hota ha jis Mai woh har month user select karta ha to trust on thier judgment, like after getting place thier apki feedback har account pa numaya show jis sy unky reputation pa huge effect Partha ha.

Yeh user community Mai ik Tarah sy discipline continue karny ky Liya user ko tag karty ha on behalf of thier activity like agr scam Kiya , cheating Kiya toh negative taaky sabko wazih diky inka trust aur uski base pa log in sy deal kary, also agr koi good working ke help ke aur reliable Geniuen Banda ha toh positive and so on. Ab DT Mai two types ha dono ka Kam same ha but difference yeh ha ky DT1 ki selection Theymos karta ha aur DT2 har woh shaks ban jata ha jisy DT1 apny trust list ma add kar daita ha. Make sure iska appropriate use Kiya kary warna consequences ky ap khud zimidar hongy.
Bilkul ESI cheezen share Karni chahye or ye cheezen hi to motivation deti hen. Or mujy to zati tor par Khushi huwi. Ye DT1 my shamil hona bohat Barri BAAT he Yani is Kaa MATLAB ye he ky ap ab forum ky muqtadar members ki saff my shamil ho Gaye hen. Or meri to dua he Allah ap KO mazeed kamyabi ata farmaye. Or jesy ap mehnat karty hen ap iss cheez Kaa haqq bhi rakhty thy or Allah NY ap KO izzat Dy di. Bass ap apni mehnat KO issi Tarah sy jaari rakhen. My to dua karta Hun Allah kary ap moderator bhi ban Jaen yahan ky. Taa ky hamen pata to ho ky hamary darmayan hamara hi moderator he Jo Kam az Kam hamari zuban achy sy samjta he.
4  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: August 01, 2026, 05:22:05 PM
Cut

Beta ye to my bhi janta hun my tum kiss ky alt ho or kiss sy milti julti baten karty ho or kiss ky sath tumhari writing milti he. But my tum jesa nai Hun or NAA ban'ny ki zarurat he. الحمدللہ Jo my Hun wo my janta hun. Falany ky sath falany Kaa taluq he or falan Kaa falan ky sath ye bass kehny ki bataen hen.
Wahan Sab decide Kar chuky hen ky in ki nai sunani lekin الحمدللہ abhi bhi fight Kar Sakta Hun or every prove Dy Sakta Hun. Lekin behas Kaa faida koi nai he. NAA ap sy NAA un sy. Iss liye ap bhi apna munh band rakhen. Bakhubi janta Hun ky ap Jin hathon sy reply type karty hen wo kiss ky hen? But koi BAAT nai Bura sochy walon Kaa Kabhi bhi anjam Acha nai hota ye Mera bhi experience he. الحمدللہ
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 01, 2026, 03:51:31 PM
Look, I've been a huge Mancini fan, but he is good finding players that many other "experts" don't even know who they are. And Italy have several young players who are very promising, such as:
Mattia LiberaliChristian ComottoLuca ReggianiSamuele InacioMichael KayodeGiovanni LeoniGianluca OkonPantaleo CretiAndrea NataliFederico ColettaAlessandro CrimaldiGuido Della Rovere
If I'm not wrong, they were all born between 2007 and 2009, only Leoni was born in 2006.

For me the Italian national team should have a third of the players that are currently in the national team. Everyone else doesn't deserve it. Therefore, if we want to do a fair and correct job, we should completely re-establish the Italian national team and give those who are really talented the chance to play.
Rebuild debate in Italy has been ongoing since World Cup qualifying failure of 2022. It is not problem of the talent supply as Serie A academies always produce technically skilled players. It is the problem of the changeover from young to old, something Italy has screwed up time and time again.
There is some truth to "one-third doesn't deserve their place" argument. Italy have been victim of reputation over form in recent tournaments. 2007-2009 generation is looking exciting but patience is required, promise and readiness are not same thing.
6  Economy / Reputation / Re: How big is the "CryptoYar" account farm? on: August 01, 2026, 01:13:42 PM
Why put out all the pizzas at different times if you cooked them together?
Did I say we made Pizzas on same day? I said we cooked the Pizza together. And it is not easy to make two Pizzas in one day especially in the hot weather of Pakistan. And again misleading with adding him I already said I don't know CryptoYar he is defedning himself and I will leave him on his own.
It's usually the cousin, friend or collegue ;)I've seen this so many times, and each time the account farm thinks it's a valid excuse.
I know you all will say that but reality is reality. If you really want to believe just believe otherwise I don't want make any comments.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos, players don't only serve for profits. on: August 01, 2026, 12:01:00 PM
Reasoning is at first glance sound, but there is basic conflict of interest here. Casinos make most of their money from problem gamblers, some guesses put this at more than 40% of their profits. If you really want to protect that group, you are going to have to take loss on your most profitable customer base.

Casinos that have introduced any real responsible gambling rules (such as cooling-off periods or AI spend alerts) do so under lawmaker pressure, other than as free choice measure. GamStop in UK is likely the most successful industry wide self ban scheme, and that required years of pressure from government to get right. Business rewards do not get replaced by good intentions. Laws do.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rememeber this? Ban on betting companies from appearing on front of jerseys. on: July 31, 2026, 03:26:42 PM
Why wouldn't they have placed a complete ban on the use of gambling promotions on the players shirts, because this is not about the most important location, I don't see any reason to make a promotion on what is not going to be visible by the targeted audience, moreover I don't think there is high level of children participation in watching some of this life matches both in physical or online compared to how adults do, there are many other things that could distract children from getting used to some certain things online that government are not concentrating more attention to regulate and they are being promoted.
Yes, fewer children watch live games, but Premier League highlights, YouTube clips and social media reels can impact younger audiences than ever before could stadium games. Child who has never watched full match, sees sleeve sponsor of Salah in 30second popular online clip. There is big example of Australia, where all gambling advertising on live sport broadcasts was banned completely before, during and after the games. Early evidence shows that there is clear reduction in youth exposure. That is fix in the structure. Changing logo from chest to sleeve is not.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I choose Bitcoin for all transactions. on: July 30, 2026, 03:16:22 PM
When network becomes congested, such as in early 2024, fees went up to more than $50 and confirmation times stretched to hours. This is far from free and instant.
More honest answer for regular cross border transfers is Lightning Network. Near Zero fees, near immediate settlement and same borderless benefits.
In the traditional banking system, payment is slow and expensive, indeed. However, Bitcoin underlying layer is not built for every day small payments, and is only fit as settlement layer. Tool needs to be matching with its purpose.
10  Economy / Reputation / Re: How big is the "CryptoYar" account farm? on: July 30, 2026, 08:19:43 AM
I'm posting on behalf of Publictalk792 and myself.

Yes, we know each other because we live in the same area. But we got to know each other only through our Pakistan local community here on Bitcointalk, and then later we discovered that we live nearby.
Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years. As for the ATT contest, I made a completely separate pizza specifically for that contest, and I made it entirely by myself.

As far as CryptoYar is concerned, we don't know him personally. We only know that he's from the same city as us nothing more.

ThemePen is also my friend, but again, only through the Bitcointalk community. We exchanged phone numbers, but we have never met in person.

That's all. This is in no way an account farm, as it's being portrayed. Just because Publictalk792 and I became friends through the Bitcointalk Pakistan community and occasionally meet in person does not make us an account farm.
11  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: July 29, 2026, 08:39:33 AM
Again JazakAllah! jee registration date kafi phly ki hogi but activity ab sy start ki so es lye kch mistakes hoi.....especially thanks to you apny achi guidelines di jiski wja sy meri mistakes ab fix hoi.
Ap ki registration ki date pehly ki hogi nai he. Hahaha. Or ye shuru shuru my common hota ye mistakes Karna so so my kahun gaa ap ahista ahista learning Karen koi jaldi nai he ye sab ahista ahista hota Jaye ga. Shuru my Mera bhi yehi haal tha. Bass wohi BAAT ky ap apna preview Kaa button lazmi use Kiya Karen. Or Mera mashwara ye he ky ap ap khali posting ky ilawa Kabhi Beth ky upar Jo Jo features hen Yani ye writing box ky upar UN KO use Kar ky check Kiya Karen. Taa ky ap KO samaj ajaye ky kiss Kaa Kaya maqsad he. MATLAB my keh Raha Hun ap jab experiment Karen to post NAA Karen bass features KO samjen. Posting Karna zaruri nai he. Posting Sahi sy or to the point Karna zaruri he. Bass ahista ahista ap KO samaj ajaye ga. Koshish karty rahen.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does large number gambling real put you at an advantage? on: July 29, 2026, 01:47:26 AM
The math is good, but key factor is missing, size of the bankroll compared to the bet size. If you are blown out of the bank before the long run, 55% advantage is nothing. This is what Kelly Criterion is all about. Bet in share to your advantage and avoid being ruined by bad unlucky streak.

​Worst case is 700 losses, which is in theory possible, but extremely unlikely with 55% advantage over 1000 tries. It is not that situation that is the real danger, it is that most bettors will bet more after losing money, in an attempt to make up for it, and this is where ups and downs become real problem.
​If you have positive expected value, it only pays off if you live long enough to collect it.
13  Economy / Economics / Re: Ford Rehires Human Engineers After AI Fails Quality Checks on: July 29, 2026, 12:38:41 AM
Quality limits in automotive manufacturing are zero tolerance, and even skilled human engineers have trouble with them. AI doing poorly there does not necessarily translate to every industry. ​Stakes are likely higher in the crypto world, though. ByBit hack that occurred earlier this year, which resulted in the loss of $1.5 billion, was a complex code level weakness. It is unclear whether human engineers would have spotted it or not, but it is difficult to ignore case for human final security checks. ​Real situation is not AI vs engineer, or engineer vs AI, but rather that neither of them is enough. Worst case is when organizations reduce human review teams and think that AI has got it covered.
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Be careful about Patterns in investing in Bitcoin on: July 28, 2026, 10:45:51 AM
It is new view from new poster. 4-year cycle trend has become unhelpful, all the small traders are attempting to trade around the same halving time, which gives the big investors free run to get ahead of and wipe out them. This cycle is indeed different in its nature. Demand pattern was changed forever by spot ETFs. Buying pressure from Saylor is new factor in previous cycles. Trump crypto position adding political side is another. To put this in chart pattern based on 2017 data is hopeful to say the least. When trading strategies fail, DCA takes out the guesswork of any of this.
15  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: July 28, 2026, 01:24:54 AM
Bitmex, BitMart ki announcement bi users ke lye ek reminder hai ke crypto mein apni security ki zimadari khud leni hoti hai. Exchange chahe kitna hi big ya popular ho like coinbase, binance etc ki tarha aisi condition abi b a skti h or baaz dafa to condition is b battar ho jati h FTX exchange ka case to suna ya face to kiya he ho ga.
Ab jinhon NY believe Kar ky BitMart Kaa token buy kiya he un ki bhense gai paani my. Asal my Crypto Market KO kharab hi in exchanges NY Kiya he. Like in Kaa faida bhi he. Lekin in Kaa nuqsan ye he ky log in par etbaar Karna shuru Kar dety hen. Or baad my nuqsan uthaty hen. Ab iss case my bhi yehi huwa he. Jab Bitcoin NY mukamal azadi ap logon KO Dy Rakhi he to pata nai q again exchanges ki taraf bhagty hen. Haan chotty motty funds hon na to chalta he agar funds zyada hen. To cold storage wallet hi Sab sy best he. Kher Jo bhi users hen Jin KO future trades open hen asal masla un ky liye hoga. Agar wo deadline sy pehly positions close nai karty to definitely wo apna nuqsan hi Karen gy.

Or so baton ki ek hi BAAT he ky exchanges par etbaar NAA Karo. Sirf exchanges KO un ky naam ky mutabiq use Karo Yani exchange. Only exchange Karo storage my liye wallets hen un KO use Kiya Jaye.
16  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: July 27, 2026, 01:40:41 PM
G apnay blkl thk kha lkn India or Pakistan ki syasat may bht zyada frq a chuka hai India may jb b koe aesa mamla hota hai to opposition jamaty awam ka khul k sth dayte hain or awam k sth ehtajaj may shareeq hoti hai or hakomat py pressure dalti ha k awam ko awam k haq deyay jayay lkn dusri trf pakistan may majood syasi jamatay srf apnay faiday ki syasat krte hain unko na to pakistan ki prwa ha na awam ki wo srf apni jaibay bharnay may lgy huay hai agr koe jamat pakistanio k haq may koe ehtajaj keray to unko seedhi golia marni shuru kr de jati hai jaisa k hum pichy daiktay a rhy hain k recently jitnay b baray ehtajaj PTI nay keyay ho ya TLP nay un k sth baith k bat cheet krnay ki bjayay unki bat sun nay ki bjyay un py tashadud ka rasta ikhtyar kia jata hai jo k aik blkl na munasib or gair ikhlaki harkat hai hmay syasat ko syasat ki hud tk rakna chaheyay na k syasat k chkr may aik dusray ka khoon baha dain pakistan may majood tamam syasi jamatay apnay apnay mufadat py kam kr rae hain meri dua hai k Allah pak pakistan ko koe aesa waziray azam day jo pakistanio k haq k leyay kam keray .
Kan idhar sy pakro yaa udhar sy BAAT ek hi he. BAAT wohi he jab tak ap boot polish karty rahen gy muamla ap ky haq my rahy gaa jesy ky ye N League or PPP ky hath my he abhi Sab Kuch.
Hamary sath waly saary countries almost apny haq ky liye larr chunky hen like Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or ab India bhi. Lekin yahan situation ulat he abhi to. Kissi KO bahir nai any dety. But yahan my ye bhi kahun gaa ky yahan youth bhi ek taraf nai he. Hamen ek to firqa waryat NY alag Kar rakha he. To Islamic point of view sy to ham apas my bohat ikhitilafat rakhty hen Jo Kabhi resolve nai hon gy. Or dusri taraf siyasat my bhi ESA hi he. Youth sari taqseem huwi parri he. Agar ye ikathy ho Jaen to hi inqilab aye ga. Jesa ky Nepal Sri Lanka Bangladesh my Aya. Abhi to bass hukumat KO chalany walon ki chal Rahi he.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: American gamblers spend enormous on Sports Betting on: July 27, 2026, 12:08:51 PM

Do you think this is a positive thing for society, or are they moving in a direction that isn't going to be good for the general public in the long run, and many people will end up being gambling addicts???


Actually, the figure doesn't represent loses but the total of what bettors have gambled with and that includes both loses and winnings. However, on the societal view and benefit, we have to remind ourselves that American government tax on gambling winning as income. So whilst the gambler is winning and benefitting, the government is also generating income through tax which goes back to the society as social welfare and amenities. Talking about those who are losing from their bets too, the US economy has a strong wealth creation opportunities that even the less skilled person can get a livelihood that they may not depend on gambling for survival unlike many other gamblers in other countinent.

So I believe the $166 billion going into gambling in the United States is a win win situation. The government get something from it, the casinos and also the players, then it goes back into the economy and losers also benefits through jobs and social welfare system.
The "win-win" spin easily forgets about who pays for that $166 billion. Research has always found that about 20% of gamblers account for about 80% of the income, and that 20% is mostly tilted towards problem gamblers.

So, yes, governments take tax and casinos make money. However, numbers only add up because small number of people are losing much more than they can afford. That is hard sell to call it a community benefit as some tax income flows back.

US social safety net argument also has its limits, the rates of gambling addiction are much higher in lower income communities where that “strong wealth creation” is least possible.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you smart enough to take care of the inheritance of bitcoins? on: July 27, 2026, 10:13:15 AM
This is likely the least talked about issue in crypto. Billions of dollars in Bitcoin are already lost forever, with many of the owners having passed away without providing their seed phrases, according to guesses from Chainalysis, who guessed that around 20% of all Bitcoin may be lost forever.

​Problem is not only to store seed phrase but also to do so in manner that is both safe against theft today and easily reachable to family in the future. These two requirements are almost opposite, and that is why most people simply avoid the issue.

​Probably the most useful solution at the moment is multi signature systems, where trusted lawyer holds one key. Has someone here actually done something like that?
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino scam you believe people should be aware of. on: July 26, 2026, 02:50:50 PM
Perhaps the most mean of the scams on this list are recovery scams, which are aimed at those who are already financially and emotionally tired. Scammer already knows that victim is desperate and they can easily control them again.

I think these three scams go hand in hand. Fake casino takes your money, clone site has already stolen your information, and when you post on forums, a "recovery agent" messages you in your DMs in few hours. It is almost never random people, it is planned effort.

​The easiest test, any platform that takes fees before releasing winnings is a scam and there are no exceptions. A real casino will never do this.
20  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: July 26, 2026, 01:57:08 PM
W.a.slam!
First of all sorry to all community members jo ky meri multiple posting sy disturb howey. Secondly, i am totally unaware ky me ny kab multiple posting ki. Apky reply k bad muje kafi had tak ye rule smj agya hai ainda es cheez ko avoid kia jy ga.
Thirdly! @qurbanshah02 ny apni post k through muje meri sahi sy quoting na krny wali mistake ky bary me inform kia hai...but unfortunately i could not understand his point of view.....kindly ap muje clear guidelines dy dein i wiould be thankful to you.
Lastly, rahi bat post merging ki to i am unaware ky kesy merge....apny horizental rule btaya hai next time esko follow krby ki koshish ki jy gi.

Regards.

Ap new hen to ye galtyan common hen so ye hota rehta he but I will say ky ap koshish Karen jab bhi ap post likhny lagen to lazmi tor par Jo post ky sath wala button he preview uss KO daba daba ky check Kiya Karen ky Aya keh post Sahi likho rahy hen yaa Nahi?

Ye ek dam sy theak Nahi hogi. Lekin ap KO koshish Karni hogi phir ahista ahista ap KO samaj Aaye gi phr hi post Kar saken gy ap Sahi sy. Or shuru shuru my Sab ky sath esy hi hota he but iss KO improve Karna hota or wo bar bar koshish Karny sy hi hoga.

Ap KO qurbani bhai NY clear guide hi Kiya he but ap KO sai sy samaj nai Aya. So ap post KO dubara dubara parhen I hope ky ap KO samaj ajaye gi.
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