Just minuges ago, a guy from Nexus on Twitter:



Dear NEXUS Family, you who have been with us since the early days or even lately, you guys see now the potential of our products.

Our first ICO, CoinAnalyst just hit 0,0335 Dollars, that more than tripple of the... https://www.facebook.com/599111409/posts/10157475100261410/ …

https://twitter.com/indoormunichnow/status/1134927424448344064




Reality:

Another interesting address:



https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x57240eadc0eb8cf728f196ff1543ad79908142fc


Pay attention to:

• This address got 50,000,000 COY. Calculated with ICO price: 500,000 EUR
• 9 hours and a few minutes ago two transaction to two different addresses
• Interesting coincidence: Both the same amount of 1,154,000 COY

Let's see where it went to:








What does that mean? Is it possible that the first address that held COY for 500,000 EUR is just an address to distribute COY to normal/real Investors?

It is possible, but highly unlikely, because we have weird coincidences here:

• Two different addresses got the same amount of COY (calculated with ICO-price: 11,540 EUR each)
• Two different addresses send 100%, the exact same amount, to trade.io

Does that seem as if it's about different and real Investors who simply want to sell?

Who could that be? @Coinanalyst, any Idea?

Just one example/explanation what is happening on the market right now.


10,000,000 COY were transferred on this address on Feb 22
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0xfd64bbeab701f44e2cdf039c6074aa541daab49b
Calculated with ICO-price of 0.01 EUR: 100,000 EUR ---> just a big (real) Investor? Hmm... I don't think so.

Transaction: 4 hours ago to:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x66396b3c3d8446e364e805cb0e8c310dddff685e

That's an interesting address, because it is very active and holds a lot. More interesting: It then distributes to several other addresses. 3 examples:


https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x9a4ec7e6e93ef5e51263b0c2e11fa17cdc143219
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0xfa575e102909876134afb56e3c334a1192a12f3b
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d?a=0x19475350e8a8812124a546648615bbdd1b8c149b

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Now, let's take a look where the COY went to:










 

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Now... let's think about it for a moment.

1) What we know for sure is that the first address got COY for 100,000 EUR on February 22
2) What we know for sure is that those COY are transacted on an address that also gets COY from several other addresses
3) What we know for sure is that THAT address then transacts COY on several other addresses


Does that look like as if it's just one guy who wants to sell?

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Scenarios:

1) One big and real Investor who simply likes it complicated. Is that impossible? Nothing is impossible. It's just highly unlikely
2) Nexus Global
3) Coinanalyst



Just btw: I didn't dig deep here... If I would do that for about an hour, I'm pretty sure I would find several examples like that.



@Coinanalyst... you don't want to say anything about that, right? But don't you think it would be a good idea simply to say how much you sold exactly? Have you ever seen an ICO where that is kept as a secret?

Ich weiß nicht mehr wann genau, aber ich wurde durch den PR-Scam-Stunt (Mitte/Ende April) auf Savedroid aufmerksam. Kannte die vorher gar nicht. Weil ich die Aktion so "interessant" fand war ich sowohl hier auf Bitcointalk wie auch in deren Channel aktiv... sagen wir mal auf sachlich-kritisch-fragende Art. Das mochten die wirklich gar nicht. ;-)

Gut zu wissen das sie einen Sinn dafür haben "konstant" zu handeln. Immerhin bin ich da schon vor über einem Jahr rausgeflogen 

Aber, wenn sie derart heftig gegen alles vorgehen was auch nur damit zu tun hat, dann ist das durchaus eine Info. Anders gesagt: Hätten sie Null Probleme mit dieser Klage wäre es nicht nur unnötig Leute zu sperren, von denen manche als Reaktion z.B. hier noch öffentlicher darüber schreiben, es wäre sogar klug dem Thema möglichst offensiv (öffentlich/transparent) den Wind aus den Segeln zu nehmen.

Was auch bedacht werden sollte: Den Status Quo kann man als "unsicher" beschreiben, im Sinne von "niemand weiß worauf das hinausläuft". Die Klage könnte irgendwie abgewiesen werden oder wie auch immer im Sande verlaufen, oder auch wirklich greifen und Savedroid theoretisch in die Knie zwingen - finanziell mehr als nur beschädigen. Aus Investor-Perspektive bedeutet das: (Noch) höheres Risiko.

Wenn wir jetzt von rationalen Marktteilnehmern ausgehen (ich weiß, ist bisschen schwer das bei Savedroid anzunehmen) müsste das den Kurs zunehmend belasten. Einige oder auch viele die über die Situation nachdenken könnten zur Überzeugung kommen lieber aussteigen zu wollen, während jene die über Kauf nachdenken sich wohl eher zurückhalten werden. Wie gesagt, das wäre rationales Verhalten von informierten Teilnehmern.

Savedroid war noch nie ein gutes Investment aber es wird anscheinend immer noch schlechter. Der Kurs dürfte unter den gegenwärtigen Umständen, solange keine Klarheit im Sinne von Savedroid herrscht, kaum eine Chance haben.

Wow, das klingt ernster bzw. vielversprechender (je nach Perspektive) als ich Anfangs gedacht habe.

Gibts irgendeine Reaktion vom Team?

Ist vermutlich eine Verwechslung mit Cobinhood - bei letzteren gab es solche Gerüchte:

Cobinhood hat Insolvenz angemeldet, Exit Scam?
https://blockchain-hero.com/cobinhood-hat-insolvenz-angemeldet-exit-scam/

Aber, sie dementieren das:

Statement: There is no exit scam, neither bankruptcy. The company has been through a lot but we are still alive. Here is a letter from Popo to everyone
https://medium.com/@Cobinhood/a-letter-from-popo-chen-ed509029427b …
@dexonfoundation
https://twitter.com/COBINHOOD/status/1133735078134132738

Hi Coinanalyst,

I have zero doubts that you will continue with your zero-communication-policy on this platform but some questions can't hurt, right? ;-)



1) Today you've published a blogpost and you say this about the sold supply:

"Following the successful ICO campaign that began on 7th July 2018 and ended on 31st March 2019, CoinAnalyst’s token COY achieved impressive results: In main and pre-sale almost 2 billion COY were sold, which is almost 90% of the set Hard Cap."
https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/coinanalyst-starts-trading-on-exmarkets-and-trade-io-following-successful-ico-campaign-9da7e5af5c80

You sold "almost" 90% of the set Hard Cap? Any reason why you don't want to provide exact numbers? It's the first time I see something like that btw..


2) Etherscan shows the number of 3,750,000,000 COY as total supply. On your site you said about the basic distribution: 55% (Pre ICO and ICO) for the sale and 45% for the team (expenses etc.). With other words: The number of sold tokens also determined the number of the team-token. Since you've not generated those tokens before the ICO, but after and also over the last few days, the round number is weird. How is that possible? Do you plan a burning-session after you generated the token? Why isn't there any explanation about that?


3) 55% (Pre- and ICO) of the total supply would be: 2,062,500,000 COY. Is that the number you sold? Because if calculated with the ICO price of 0.01 EUR that would be more and not less than your Hard Cap (20 Million EUR)?  


4)  Really, you should provide exact numbers or this becomes a little bit weird, because at the moment your own numbers don't seem to add up!


5) Since you've partnered with the OneCoin-Guys from Nexus Global: Would you now be transparent about how much was sold to them? Stupid question since you don't even want to say how much you've sold as total, right?


6) Etherscan shows 2,493 addresses now. But the Top 20 hold more than 97% of the total supply. The Top 50 hold more than 98.5%. Any comment on that, especially when it's about question 5: Nexus Global?


7) How is it possible that your token was so wanted that you got so much money but when you tried to sell COY on Exmarkets you sold COY for only about 0.27 BTC over a time period of 5 weeks? At that time that was not even 1000 EUR in 5 weeks...


8 ) How is it possible that your token was so wanted during the ICO but now the highest  buy-order is at 0.00000020 BTC? That is 85% below ICO-price of 0.01 EUR!


9) Any reason why you don't even get a listing on IDEX after such a successful ICO?

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Oh, and...: Interesting is also that you got hundreds of retweets for random Tweets last year but your last tweets, your announcement of trading-start got... zero retweets? How so?

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Let me tell you what I believe: I believe that it would be very naive to believe in anything you say, even if you don't say much - your silence has a reason I guess?
I don't believe that you sold a round number and obviously you don't want to say how much you sold - since you don't do it you must have intention to hide exact numbers. I don't believe that your ICO was successful and that you really sold so much, but I believe that Nexus Global got a ton of COY. I don't believe that the number of addresses is equal to the number of Investors and I consider that as a reason why the distribution is so unbelievable fucked up. Top 20 > 97% of the total supply is..... let's call it "special".

I don't believe that you thought about the scenario that you see now, about the question how hard it would be to keep up a (fictional?) marketcap like that, especially if nobody wants to buy the token - as it already was obvious during the ICO. You start your article with "Following the successful ICO campaign that began on 7th July 2018 (...)" but we all know that you needed so much time because nearly nobody wanted to buy your COY. You partnered with Nexus already last year, but even after that you had to extend your ICO. And if that partnership was so successful, why the attempt to sell on Exmarkets where you sold Token for not even 1000 EUR over a 5 week period? This was one of the longest ICO's I've ever seen: 9 months!

What I believe is this, no matter how much exactly you hold and how much you sold: There are nearly no real Investors. You hold a ton of COY and Nexus Global holds a ton of token. There is nearly no trading, near to zero volume and especially: Near to zero buy orders and the few that are there want to buy about 90% below ICO-price to set the bought token as sell right after they've bought.

The few real Investors you have already sell below ICO-price and those who buy about 90% below on the exchange will undercut that right away. Now, let's think about the possibility that your buddies from Nexus Global try to game the market, try to orchestrate a little pump... They should think twice about it because it won't be easy to get buy orders, that's already obvious. If they set them themselves it could very well be that they will own just more COY - and they already have a shitload, right? ;-)

What I would like to know is if you trust the guys from Nexus and if they trust you. Because if not, there is absolutely no way that anyone of you will be able to get a higher price to sell your COY - each party has to be concerned about the possibility that the other one will sell into each pump attempt.

That's what I call a really bad market situation. Listing on small and unknown exchanges but a totally overblown marketcap I will never believe it to be real. But, over time it will go down...

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Btw: Have you seen that your partner Savedroid is sued now? You are on the safe side regarding the controversial question they seem to have problems with?  

I'm not so sure if that's irony... but if not, it's the joke of the day.

Somebody who does not care about exchanges but about token use and technological progress bought into a hype project that managed to get about $50 M to build an APP, "using" a token that is not even needed?

Of course! 


Just a short reminder how they hyped their ICO claiming they would have secured a listing on a Top5 (from March 5, 2018):

https://twitter.com/savedroidag/status/970916960925093889

Die wissen das wohl nur deshalb noch nicht weil sie nach wie vor verkaufen... oder es zumindest versuchen. Mir fällt sonst echt kein anderer Grund ein. Die haben ihr ICO zweimal verlängert und zusätzlich offenbar ein drittes mal, aber "unoffiziell"/versteckt.

Habe keinen Zweifel daran, weil Nexus-Leute auch auf Facebook und nach Beendigung des ICO's gesagt haben:

(...) We can still buy and stand a chance to have discounted rates for using the system (...)
https://www.facebook.com/MWGBC/posts/10157350519666410

Auf Twitter gab es das auch. Frage ist ob Nexus Global zuerst große Mengen gekauft hat und das Zeug auf eigene Kasse versucht weiterzuverticken, oder ob Coinanalyst da mit drinsteckt. Falls letzteres wäre es schon echt schräg. Die haben ihr ICO zweimal verlängert, es dann als beendet erklärt - ohne zu wissen wie viel sie verkauft haben (*uups*) - und es läuft nach wie vor mit Nexus weiter.

Hast Du einen Screenshot davon?

On Telegram the team was made aware of several unanswered questions here. This is their reply:

"We're not really interested paying attention ans answering questions to the same people who talk badly about our project and spreading FUD. Maybe you can understand that."

Let me give you a short lesson about the basics of good communication - it's really simple.

There are basically three kinds of negative informations coming from Crypto-Guys like me. But your reaction could always be the same:

• If somebody asks questions that may or may not imply that there is something wrong with your project ---> you reply with Facts
• If somebody intentionally spreads false Informations ---> you reply with Facts
• If somebody comes up with theories that are not true ---> you reply with Facts

If you read my posts... I ask a lot of questions and if you let them unanswered I come up with different scenarios. But, I'm not the typical guy who wants to spread FUD just to spread FUD, I'm not focused on the worst-possible scenario. I really want to know and I'm somebody who can differ between BS and facts. If you would come up with facts and I would see that I am wrong I would admit it. A reply like the above is bullshit...

It's very much like Trump does it every day and all day long. He doesn't want to show facts, so he tries everything to discredit those who ask. That's Childish. #SAD

Let me also tell you: In my opinion a good team has a responsibility not just to hype a project with the intention to sell as much as possible during an ICO, but  also to take care about their Investors after an ICO. What I mean by that is simple: A good team should reply on pretty much everything, at least everything that is relevant. Do you see anything irrelevant that I've talked about/asked?


1) Number of sold Tokens?
2) Distribution?
3) You friends from Nexus and how much they hold?
4) Exchanges?


Don't you think your Investors also have such questions?

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Edit:

In case you don't believe me (because you don't like me)  just two posts above somebody else said this:

It's kind of fascinating that a team that has finished an ICO is so consistent when it's about not replying on any (not just mine) questions and not not giving any information out. I don't know if they are more transparent on their channel. I was kicked a long time ago, also because they didn't like questions. But it doesn't matter anyway...

Let's explore the Status Quo a bit:

The ICO has been finished since March 31 and as can be seen in the post above: They didn't know how much they sold.

Question would be, and of course they'll not reply:

1) Do they know now?
2) If yes, why wouldn't they make it public?
3) If no, how is that possible?


Etherescan can give some informations:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa2c1e04aca801da92fa95af161040d37f103d69d#balances

1. Until now they have issued a total of 902,520,898 COY = about 9 Million Euro if calculated with the ICO-price
2. 100% of token are held by 45 addresses
3. The biggest addresses hold a lot while the smallest addresses hold tiny amounts (about 25 EUR)


There are basically three scenarios now:

1) That's it.. that's what they sold and only 45 addresses hold all Tokens. Of course that's not likely.
2) They'll issue more token and distribute those to more addresses. But: Even if, it wouldn't change much regarding the distribution
3) Some of the 45 addresses are addresses which they use to distribute. That's possible of course but since many of the 45 addresses show a balance of only 2500 token (about 25 EUR) it seems as if most of those addresses are Investor-addresses.


Here is what I believe is weird in any case: Coinanalyst had to extend the ICO again and again because they were not able to sell much. That also was their reason to partner with Nexus Global. But even with so experienced Salesmen (OneCoin-Promoters) they still had to extend their ICO. And not just that, they have tried to sell tokens on Exmarkets. How much did they sell? In about 5 weeks they've sold COY for only 0.2 BTC. I've never seen so little Interest in any ICO.

How is it possible that they have sold Tokens for at least about 12 Million Euro - that's what they claim in their Blog-Post:

(...) between 1.2 billion and 1.8 billion tokens in the Pre and Main ICO.


That's kind of hard to believe.


But, anyway... what I believe is: Some of the big addresses probably belong to Nexus-Global and Nexus-Global may distribute those COY to Nexus-Global-Members. But things become interesting here, because Nexus-Global is a MLM with Leaders who have a shady past. I've warned very early that they may plan a pump and dump



To manipulate a market would be easy if Nexus would control a huge majority of the supply. Now there are only 45 addresses and the Top 10 hold > 90% of the current total supply.


Regarding Exchanges:

Somebody told me that the Coinanalyst-team plans to launch on exchanges end of May. That would be in about 10 to 12 days. At least until then they should have figured out how much they sold to how much people. The confirmed exchanges are small and not likely to help this project any further:

trade.io
ExMarkets
Nebula Exchange
Source: https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/the-coinanalyst-ico-is-over-here-is-whats-next-382aa5f2bafb

More interesting as what they have confirmed is: Nearly all ERC20 get a listing on IDEX, but Coinanalyst didn't have confirmation when they wrote their Blog-Post. Why?


Summary:

1) More than 6 weeks after the end of their ICO they still don't know how much they've sold. Or: They just don't want to say it.
2) They don't reply on any question and all social media accounts are very quiet since a long time
3) The current distribution of the current total supply, about 9 Million EUR if calculated with the ICO-price, contains only 45 addresses
4) It seems that they can't find any interesting exchange, maybe not even IDEX
5) Even if the current status regarding token-issuance and distribution should not be final, the probability is high the Nexus Global holds a huge majority of the supply

Die haben sehr viel in Fiat eingenommen, mehr als 50% glaube ich. Ich glaube auch nicht das die besonders viel ausgeben. Sie haben Personalkosten, werden aber wohl weitgehend normale Gehälter bezahlen, Reisekosten ev. und vielleicht ein bisschen Infrastruktur - wobei sie ja kaum welche brauchen. Insofern... die müssten eigentlich viele Jahre durchhalten. Und bis ihnen das Fiat ausgeht ist Crypto schon wieder durch einen Hype gelaufen.

Yes, it was not one large transaction but several executed at the same time:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea

But: Most of them exceed the 100 BTC by far, so it remains unclear how it's possible. As far as I know Binance has no automatism for large transactions but people looking into it. Maybe I'm wrong here, but imagine how much money already 100 BTC is (above half a million USD). So it would make sense that no withdrawal above that should be possible without being checked. And if several accounts do that at once and for about 7K BTC in summary... that's hard to understand and probably also not easy to explain.


Edit: If you check the TxID you see that the transactions went to "bc....- addresses", which are Segwit-Addresses. Maybe that has something to do with it, that those withdrawals were not stopped by the system because it didn't know this format. But I'm not a tech-guy, so it's just a random theory. 

Everything what went out during the hack, at least if substantial amounts, is probably known. So let's say there also would be ETH-transactions and/or others out of Binance (Withdrawals), it would go over Twitter.

The 7k-Withdrawal was known before the hack was official. I was sure that there is a hack because the combination I recoginzed was:

1. Somebody tweeted the 7k transaction
2. Exactly when I saw that I also had a tweet of a user complaining that withdrawals were disabled.
3. Shortly after CZ said "unscheduled maintenance" and tried to calm down the situation a bit, but he didn't say anything about the 7k transaction.

Then I was 90% sure that it's probably a hack, because CZ is known to be very open. He announces big transactions and so on. If that would have been an internal transaction he would have said so most likely.

With other words: The problem is not that much that we don't know what happened "outside" of Binance. We don't know what happened inside. It's likely and credible that the security-automatisms shut everything down right after the 7k withdrawal. But the big question is: How was it possible for the hacker(s) to execute so big withdrawals? How was it possible to control so many high-level accounts? And: Even with Level 2 (full KYC) the limit is 100 BTC. It should not have been possible to witdhraw hundreds of BTC and about 7K BTC at once.

Unlikely... if that would be true it would be easy to show transactions. But there are none, besides the 7k BTC, I would know of.

Interesting analysis:

Body Language: Binance Bitcoin Hack Changpeng Zhao #SAFU
https://youtu.be/trmDlXN36Bk

Hey Coinanalyst, you see all the questions above? You are online nearly every day but you believe it's not necessary to reply?


I also have a few questions:

One month ago, on March 31, you guys posted that your ICO is over:

The CoinAnalyst ICO is over. Here is what’s next…
https://medium.com/coinanalyst-tech/the-coinanalyst-ico-is-over-here-is-whats-next-382aa5f2bafb


Quote:

Already now I can say that our ICO was a success despite the difficult market. We have spent between 1.2 billion and 1.8 billion tokens in the Pre and Main ICO. Since our token has also been sold through many external portals and marketing campaigns, we still have to determine the exact amount manually. I ask for your understanding that this will take some time. We still have to wait for some feedback.

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My questions are:

1. How is it possible that you still, 1 month later, don't know how much you've sold?  

2. Is it true that your ICO is in fact not over but that you keep on selling to Nexus-Global? I ask because of this - posted on April 16:

(...) We can still buy and stand a chance to have discounted rates for using the system (...)
https://www.facebook.com/MWGBC/posts/10157350519666410

3. Will you be transparent about the distribution of your token, about how much was sold to Nexus Global?


Why I ask is: I've watched the outcome on Exmarkets-Launchpad... You've sold only a few of your Token for 0.28 BTC to the general public there. That are about 1500 USD in 5 weeks. With other words: If it's true that you've sold between 1.2. and 1.8 billion tokens I would think that a huge majority was sold to Nexus Global and I believe you should be transparent about the numbers and maybe also about the current status, if your ICO is in fact over or if you are still selling to Nexus Global or not.

Any new informations or still nothing?