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1341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: November 24, 2016, 01:53:40 AM
Gambling can never be considered as a investment, because with investment you have assured pay back after certain time period but with gambling nothing is assured. So in my view gambling can be considered a earning source and not as a pure investment.
You can never be sure that you will get back what you have invested...
In this case, gambling is much more transparent. You instantly see if you won or lost.

Gambling will give you instant pleasure with your money, but investing takes the time to show the results. Investing is a better option if you're looking for good returns from your money, but the only thing is you should find a good trusted sites and products to invest your money.
1342  Economy / Digital goods / Re: 💥💥💥💥 MAKE .2 BITCOIN A DAY ON THE DEEP WEB LEGAL !!!! 💥💥💥💥 on: November 23, 2016, 01:40:51 AM
if one made 75k already and still making .2btc a day, why whould one sell this thing for a pennies? why would one be spending time talking to a people in this forum, proving something and TRYING to sell a method for probably ~50$? (or whatever the price is). Everyone in a sane mind would create 2x money making accounts and simply earn 0.4btc a day (~300eur) which would make insanelly rich living (almost 10k a month). Why is op bothering to do a good job or people? Philantropist? Mother Theresa? Smiley

If one think logically then what you said is correct. If one already know how to make money on daily basis without hard work then they will not disclose it to public just for few dollars. Since I don't much about how darknet works, I feel this may be exaggerated to attract more potential buyers unless he/she provide a recent earnings proof.
1343  Economy / Digital goods / Re: New Method UNLIMITED Premium Lynda Acc Creating Method $20[Vouch Copy Available] on: November 22, 2016, 09:34:37 AM
It looks like this method already shared here for free and you check it first before buying it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686816.msg16931600#msg16931600

OP - sorry for spoiling your sales thread. I did it because method may be already available free in google but still some people are trying make money out it. So just for members interest I have posted in this thread.
1344  Economy / Economics / Re: Currency v Property on: November 22, 2016, 06:51:43 AM
I think right now you are right that people are using bitcoin as an investment mostly right now but I think that is because the price has not stabilized yet. At some point, I think more people will use it as a method of payment or a way to send money.

Bitcoin prices are more volatile and no one knows what happens to it in the longer run. So I prefer to invest in property for long term profits than keeping cash in hand. And only some portion of my saving I will invest in bitcoins take the advantage of these high volatile prices. I will not keep more than 5% of my savings in bitcoins.
1345  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: November 22, 2016, 06:48:21 AM
I select for bitcoin, I already prove if the investment with the gold the profitable no more than 5% per year. For currently I always set aside money to buy bitcoin.

If you were invested in bitcoin in 2014 Nov, then you will not say Bitcoins are better than gold. Because that time price was around 1000+ and until now, bitcoin prices never reach to that high. That means in last two years those people never made any profits from bitcoins yet. So it is always good to invest in few different assets than one. I choose both bitcoins and as well as gold.
1346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: November 22, 2016, 06:39:35 AM

Was planing to invest on a gambling site since they said its a gauranteed profit since the house can't lose but I'm still skeptical about it, i don't have much BTC so I have to make sure whether its going to be profitable for me.  What possibilities could happen to the gambling site i wanted to invest into and how am i going to lose my investment in such a manner?

Well, if you lose, you lose to the edge. You wouldn't love fast, even with high risk, because the total invested amount contain your invested amount + Others, so when you lose, you lose together.

You are right there mate.. You will not gonna lost it all (your bankroll) but just a portion of it and sometimes you will see your bankroll as negative profit but not totally wreck.. You can just reinvest to it and win it back.. That is the beauty really of just investing..

As long as if you can wait for a longer time than mostly you will make a good profit from reputable gambling site investments. And also don't keep all your money in any single site instead spread it into few good sites then you can make better profits.
True, it's more on a long term investment. The amount of income you will receive is not in big percentage but it's a small amount but a steady income. That can be called as invest because it's profitable and you are benefiting from the number of losers of gambling in this world.

I agree that it is a long-term investment but I don't agree that if you expect any steady income from gambling investments. Because you may sometimes lose money instead of making a profit. So recover back those losses, you may need to wait even longer period and you will never get a steady income from gambling investments.
1347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 22, 2016, 01:52:52 AM
I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

Well in both you are playing against others, being just a casino script or whales, as you are putting your coins into a risk i would consider the same, even knowing a small difference between, that is be able to control the loss or winnings when you risking to gamble.
Base on facts, in gambling we have a less chance of winning while trading we have a great chance of becoming successful if and only we will have to work for it. In gambling it's different as most of time you rely on luck but in trading you cannot rely on luck alone as the more you are knowledgeable you will develop your skills.

I do agree that gambling is only for fun and not for making money because end results only depend on luck. But if you have knowledge of trading and ready to go for long then one got a better chance of making profits in trading. But don't go for trading if you don't have a knowledge of it because it will be same as gambling
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your dice strategy? on: November 22, 2016, 01:49:21 AM
My strategy is to try and test many different methods I see on the internet. There isn't a right and full profitable strategy (and if there is, nobody will tell), but what I try to do is increase the chance to don't get a big consecutive loss. Decrease the chances to lose is a good strategy to survive more time in game and make profit for more time.

But what I think is, in gambling particularly in dice game it is impossible to earn a profit in the long run with any of your methods because they will not work always. If such things available then by now many gambling houses should have been closed but we never see such things happing. So don't play for making a profit instead just play this game with small amount only sometimes and if you're lucky surely you will win.
1349  Economy / Digital goods / Re: UBER Referral Free Rides ($3.5 each) 3 Vouch copies on: November 22, 2016, 01:39:37 AM
I have sent you a personal message regarding my new request. Please check and reply soon.

I need another six rides soon but can you agree on my terms which I sent in a personal message? If you agree, then I will place few more rides after this order done.
1350  Economy / Gambling / Re: any site where winning small amount with least loss? on: November 21, 2016, 07:18:40 AM
I've also know some sites that is given away free satoshies no more to bet some money or bitcoin, just follow their instruction and then you can have free satoshies which is there is no losing or winning. But they have FREE satoshies.

Those are very less coins you can collect for the time you spent on those sites and time is money. Instead you can write some good comments on this forum and earn much better money and use that money to play games for your entertainment but never try to make profit from gambling.
1351  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Hero, Legendary. Bitcointalk account. on: November 21, 2016, 06:52:33 AM
Selling Hero and Legendary, Bitcointalk account.

Price for Legendary : 0.27 BTC
Price for Hero : 0.07 BTC

We will use escrow ofcourse if you're not trusted, if you are trusted maybe I can go first.

PM me for more details.

Whoever selling accounts should provide minimum information on your post to help buyers to get bids like.

- Can you provide a signed message from old address or not?
- Any existing loans on this account?
- Ban from any signature campaigns?
- What are post quality and all posts are in English or not?

More and more details will help to buyers.

Sure, in PM.

I think you should put all those details in public instead of sending through personal messages. That will be more useful.

You should confirm in this thread whether you can provide a signed message from old address or not. This is very important for buyers...
1352  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stay clear of NetBet when using bitcoin as a deposit method on: November 21, 2016, 06:22:29 AM
They really making people wait that long df?

I'm not supporting any site but just I looked at their withdrawal page ( https://help.netbet.co.uk/en/sport/contact_us#cont1727 ) and they clearly mentioned how long they will take for each withdrawal methods ( they got few options to withdraw your money). And they don't have bitcoin withdrawal option. It is our responsibility to check the site details before depositing out money.
1353  Economy / Gambling / Re: Please research new sites before investing in them on: November 21, 2016, 06:17:43 AM
If I'm not wrong people will do their best research before investing on any site. But some people may not be knowing where to find the correct answers and if the site looks professional then they may fall into these traps. Nowadays these scam sites are more, and they are just behind people money. Investors should be very careful before investing on any new sites.
1354  Economy / Gambling / Re: Flip a coin and win 200% on: November 21, 2016, 06:11:21 AM
How can 2 people talking the same thing here? About being lose when they choose head and tails, one said when he choose tails he keep on losing and the other way around to others. That means this site scammed? Because many people lose it here no matter what you choosing, in the end you will just lose

Yes, that may the reason. They may be changing the results based what people are betting means it is not a fully probably fair game. It is better to avoid this site otherwise players will be losing always money on this site. Looks like promoter already got a red warning on his account.
1355  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Hero, Legendary. Bitcointalk account. on: November 21, 2016, 04:01:06 AM
Selling Hero and Legendary, Bitcointalk account.

Price for Legendary : 0.27 BTC
Price for Hero : 0.07 BTC

We will use escrow ofcourse if you're not trusted, if you are trusted maybe I can go first.

PM me for more details.

Whoever selling accounts should provide minimum information on your post to help buyers to get bids like.

- Can you provide a signed message from old address or not?
- Any existing loans on this account?
- Ban from any signature campaigns?
- What are post quality and all posts are in English or not?

More and more details will help to buyers.
1356  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling businesses PayPal account on: November 21, 2016, 02:05:23 AM
what country is the account from
how old is the account
what your best price pm me it and we go for there

How will you check whether this account belongs to him or not? It may be hacked the account and later can be recovered back with the original proofs then you will lose the account. So it is quite risky always buying these accounts from an unknown person.
1357  Economy / Gambling / Re: Latest Bitsler Bitcoin Trick Video Continued. No script or bot, unlimited potent on: November 20, 2016, 05:03:27 AM
Do you not see how changing the settings also changed the odds?

Whatever you do but finally gambling will win right?

At one point you lost your more than 50% funds in a couple of seconds and lucky that your balance was less to continue further, so you manage to recover some of your losses. It shows that it is not a method instead you want people to visit your video and likes and expect them to use your referral links.
1358  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anyone heard of2bet.io? on: November 20, 2016, 01:35:16 AM
How can't you open the website? This is the URL https://www.2bet.io/ , I can't find anything on google on them. The only thing that I found was a forum thread started by them back in March, I do not see any complaints. I like knowing information about new websites, so I am wondering if anyone here has played with them.  Please tell me, if you can access the website using my URL.

edit : I know why you couldn't open the site, you typed off2bet, not 2bet.

OK, now I can open this link https://www.2bet.io/ and very slow at my end even with 100mpbs speed internet.

My take is I will not go to any new sites to risk my money and this is the first time I come to know this site. I don't anything much about this site.
1359  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anyone heard of2bet.io? on: November 20, 2016, 01:21:24 AM
Can't even open the site then how to tell whether it is trusted or not? I got below error message when I try to open this site.

This site can’t be reached

of2bet.io’s server DNS address could not be found.
Did you mean http://on2bet.com/?
Search Google for of2bet io

There are so many good trusted sites to consider why you want to go for new site and risk your money?
1360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: November 20, 2016, 01:00:39 AM
Investing in gambling to play is not profitable unlike to invest in gambling site which will give you profit it is like buying stocks in one.company.

Gambling is a playing game not investing so you can't expect any profit from gambling but if you're lucky then sometimes you may get some profit. But investing is for increasing our profit over the time so investing is always good to grow your money and I don't call gambling is an investing.
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