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1241  Economy / Gambling / Re: KingDice.com - Play Dice Game & Invest in bankroll on: December 21, 2016, 03:46:59 AM
I just visited the site and no one is active on your site. It looks like you need to do a good marking to attract more visitors to the site.

Site looks good only thing is need to increase traffic then only can make a profit. Good luck to you...
1242  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Has anyone hear of e-currencyex ? Paypal to Btc exchanges on: December 21, 2016, 03:09:22 AM
After going through the site, I just think that it is not a very professional money exchange site.

I first time come across this site and will not use this site to risk my money. They want to do all transaction manually and if you go for the bigger transaction then not sure whether it will go through or not.
1243  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: December 20, 2016, 03:36:30 AM
I would prefer trading in most situations, but at the moment I think holding is a better decision. Most other investments, such as cloud mining, are scams and altcoins are not showing good signs that they will make a good profit in the coming weeks, but almost always there are some cryptos that give significant profits in the Bitcoin bull run.

If bitcoins constantly move up then difficult to make a money from altcoin trading. If bitcoin prices either moving downwards then we can make some money from altcoin trading unless if any altcoin move up faster than bitcoin prices. But I feel it is very hard to find such coins to invest so I prefer only do trading with bitcoins and fiat currency.
1244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 20, 2016, 03:21:45 AM
Real gambling if I'm doing it for fun and have my friends around but, if I'm serious and have intentions to make money then I choose some trusted online sites and sit at home with no distractions so that I can think clearly and make decisions better.

If you sit at home and think seriously also can't win money from gambling. You can win money only if you're lucky so I suggest never gamble to make money. But your first point is good to gamble for fun with friends and enjoy your free time with gambling games.
1245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 20, 2016, 03:19:38 AM
for me gambling for bitcoin is the easiest way to make money if I have some knowledge and enough luck. that's always needed before you played. I'm playing gambling also for my entertainment purposes too. but overall I'm playing gamblingbecause I'm gonna needed my income from gambling to provide me another money because we have a little fastfood chain and I'm investing all my income from gambling on our business so my money would grow.
yes that can is right there are so many other people who have good experience in gambling they even depending on gambling for living, they are really making good money from gambling.

I don't think that gambling is the easiest way to make money whether it is with bitcoin or real money. But I can say that it is the fastest and easiest way to let your money lose if you are sick of having a lot of money in exchange of some entertainment you can have by simply playing a lot of gambling games.
It's the easiest way if you keep winning but honestly it's not working for the majority, sometimes we lose more that what we can afford because we are too bias of our chances, we think we have all the skills and knowledge to win that others does not possess and  when we are bias we do not look at the negative side and we only count our winning experience. This type of behavior will certainly give us a problem in the long run.

It is really hard to trust gambling to depend for your own survival for many have already failed with it. There are only few people who became successful with it but that is not going to happen to you unless you are the same with them who are very lucky in gambling. Confidence is what making them think with that in gambling.

I though few people also can't be lucky forever but they might have won some very big money one or two times to they can still afford to play gambling but they might have already invested those earlier won money in some other places to get regular income and keeping gambling has a hobby now. So we shouldn't take those cases to motivate us to gamble more.
1246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: December 20, 2016, 03:16:45 AM

Good profit, I was testing an investment with 0.01 BTC and made 55.000 satoshis profit after about 1 month. It's a good progress and a good profit interest if we look another offers like lending on exchange paying much less.

Now I'm trying with a bit more money to see what happens, started yesterday, now the balance is negative, but normal on short term, let's see how it will be in medium-long term. Currently this is the best kind of investment in my opinion for Crypto-Currencies.

But you should always remember one thing that all past profits are only for your reference, and in future, you may get even better gains or losses as well. So don't ever invest in these high-risk investments which you can't afford to lose. And also try to diversify your money like OP did in this thread to reduce your losses.
1247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there a trick dice? on: December 20, 2016, 03:12:11 AM
Actually i don't believe that there is such a thing as trick in these games

All these probably fair games works on some complicated maths, and for the average person, it's hard to predict the next result so we usually call it that we can win only lucky because we can't predict it accurately each time. People if know how the system works then they will never say that they got a working method or trick in a dice game.
1248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 20, 2016, 03:08:17 AM
the only problem I faced in gambling is, when I gamble, it is very difficult to stop it. I think I've been hooked on gambling. but, I always bet by using a small amount, so I do not feel the loss. In fact, when my money has run out around 40%, I want to stop playing. but, I always felt that I would win, and it made me stop playing.

It is not only your problem but most of the gamblers having the same issue. For that, the best thing is you should load the amount which you can afford to lose for that session then no need to worry much about stopping. You can just gamble without any issues of losing money and can enjoy those games instead every time checking the balance.
1249  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling>1.046grams of GOLD for 0.040BTC on: December 20, 2016, 03:03:00 AM
Thatīs almost 10 times the market value....

It's not.  1.046g (1g = $36.48 USD) is $38.16, which is around 0.0485 BTC.  So he is selling for under market value.
@OP is this gold like virtual currency from goldmoney or actual, physical gold in which you currently possess?

Thanks for your statment regarding for my post, Yes it is virtual from goldmoney, but you can change it to physical if you want to, I think there is a certain minimum amount of grams of gold. They can give that through in their redeem system in converting it to real/physical gold.

How do you get this gold? Did you buy it or from referrals?

If brought it from credit cards then buyers should be careful sometime bitgold will block your account for buying gold from an unknown person and saying that gold brought using a fraudulent credit card.

It's a gold currency, You can buy it or sell it whenever you want, plus it is goldmoney now, no more bitgold I think. I think what your are trying to say is the issue about reversible payments.

I understood it is goldmoney now and earlier it was bit gold but you didn't answer my first two questions yet.

Even though they say can buy from anyone and can sell to anyone but if gold is brought from credit cards then later can be easily reversible and your not yet a trusted member on this forum so you need to provide proof for how you got this gold.
1250  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling>1.046grams of GOLD for 0.040BTC on: December 19, 2016, 06:36:57 AM
Thatīs almost 10 times the market value....

It's not.  1.046g (1g = $36.48 USD) is $38.16, which is around 0.0485 BTC.  So he is selling for under market value.
@OP is this gold like virtual currency from goldmoney or actual, physical gold in which you currently possess?

Thanks for your statment regarding for my post, Yes it is virtual from goldmoney, but you can change it to physical if you want to, I think there is a certain minimum amount of grams of gold. They can give that through in their redeem system in converting it to real/physical gold.

How do you get this gold? Did you buy it or from referrals?

If brought it from credit cards then buyers should be careful sometime bitgold will block your account for buying gold from an unknown person and saying that gold brought using a fraudulent credit card.
1251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 19, 2016, 03:30:31 AM
To me gambling is a form of investing and trading is just waiting on a whale to dump on you.
You got better chances gambling then making a fortune of trading.

You understood both wrongly because gambling is not to become rich fast, but you need to spend some money to get enjoyment from these games. And in trading, you can expect some profits over the time but there also I don't think one can make a fortune unless one is very lucky. There is not short cut to becoming wealthy and only way is to work hard and smart.
1252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 19, 2016, 03:27:03 AM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

It actually depends on where you will invest it and the amount you will be investing . Just avoid all HYIP/Ponzi sites and always do a through research about your chosen investment site . For your investment to be profitable, most of them require you to invest a decent amount so only invest what you can afford to lose advice is a NO already cause a huge amount of money will never be okay to lose .

For gambling, Just be sure to always have a self control and dont let your greediness take over so you will not be addicted to it . Just gamble what you can afford to lose advice applies here so if you always do these thing you will be fine .

So for me investment is more riskier but gambling is done for fun and investment is done to earn profits . If you want profits go for investment cause you cant earn much in gambling

Try to invest into good Alt coins and hold them for a couple of years. Do not invest into HYIP or Ponzi schemes sites as in the end they all will run away with investors money. It would be better to gamble away money than investing into such schemes. Invest into top 20 coins as per the market cap and hold them for years to come.




The issue with that is altcoin's are much more risky do to whales dumping or speculative investor's most altcoins have no use.
So id stay away from altcoins truthfully only your trying to day trade.

It is correct. For new people, altcoin trading is very risky and difficult to find an accurate information about these altcoins and most of the time it is like gambling and we end up making a profit only if we are lucky otherwise always lose out trades. So one should very carefully trade these altcoins with small amounts otherwise, you may lose money instead of making money.
1253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: December 19, 2016, 03:23:21 AM
For owner profit.
For investors profit.
For players loses and small chance of wins.

But ultimately on the player side its supposed to be entertainment.

The first point is correct but the second point is not always correct. Because if you check moneypot thread, then you will come to know that investors are the one always loses money if anyone wins either small or big significant amount from their apps, but only app owners and site owners always make profits regard less or players wins or losses. So you should choose correct place to invest to avoid big losses and don't ever invest without understanding how things work correctly.
1254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 19, 2016, 03:18:49 AM
asked my frd to help me to place a bet, a 8x1 parlay bet
however, he forgot about it, then all 8 games win Cry



It is not a mistake because if you got that all wins you might be thinking that can predict all games excellently and might have gone even with bigger bets for next matches and you might have lost even more money. So take it for good and don't bet so much money in gambling or keep it as an earning method but gamble vocationally for fun and it will be good in the longer run.
1255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there a trick dice? on: December 19, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
When you look at the title of the video it says how to make 1k doges but if you watched the whole video he only made like 40 doges during the session he recorded and no one will be encourage to try this method if your video doesn't show any proof that you made 1k doge from it. Additional advice for the OP if you're making a video make sure it isn't clickbait.

I didnt even bother to watch the video because I know its going to be a waste of time and energy. Of all games in gambling dice is the last one I would think there will be a strategy that will mean all time win. It does not work that way only for a short period and thats all.

If one understands how dice game works, then they will not waste their time in finding these methods. But only people who want to earn fast money without knowing how things work will fall on these tricks and lose a lot of money in verifying these methods. Just play this game for some time and enjoy your free time instead of wasting time to find working method.
1256  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com on: December 19, 2016, 03:07:28 AM
Is it true only investors lost the money in moneypot but moneypot owners and app owners are in profits?

I'm not so good in understanding the statistics, but from this table, it looks like only investors lost the money and others are in still profit. If it is true, then moneypot is not suitable for investors, right?

Yes, it's true.

The site and the apps make a guaranteed gain every time a bet is placed, even if the bet wins. When a bet wins, not only do the investors have to pay the winner of the bet, but they also have to pay the site and the app owner. You can see that in the screenshot. Comparing the left and right sides you see that while the site profit dropped by just 78.5 BTC, the investor profit dropped by 82.5 BTC. The app owners actually profited by 3 BTC from this large loss, and the site itself profited by a further 1 BTC. The investors made up the difference.

On the other hand, if the apps ever do better than expected then the investors will also do better than expected. The site and the apps take a percentage of the wagered amount, independent of the actual profit. The way things are set up means that when the site performs at less than 70% of expectation the investors take a loss.

If moneypot and app owners are not involved in risk taking than I don't consider such sites are safe to invest money and it is just my opinion because I think in some way site owners and app owners also need to pay these big wins then only I feel whole business model can grow in a healthy way otherwise I think it is not fair to push all losses to only investors. And I don't think hosting and maintaining site cost will be that high to push all big wins only to investors.

App owners have their own costs. MP has their own costs (encapsulating coverage of all apps, development, time expense, etc.) PLUS has always had a large portion of the BR. To say MP has not had any "risks" is asinine. When the BR tanks, MP loses as well, not just investors, as MP is, at its core, an investor as well, both personally and business-oriented.

I also want to stress the fact that the grand total paid to ANY of the MP owners over the past year (which covers our ownership period) is exactly 0.00000000 BTC. ALL income that has been made has always been put back into the system for growth, development, etc. There has been a lot we've worked on behind the scenes, and just don't want to share at this point because people like to ask for a specific release date and then attack you if something slows that down and/or things change with regards to actual execution of ideas.

Is it a good idea that if anyone wins higher than certain % of bankroll then investors, app owners and moneypot should share equally all losses than only investors? I don't know it can be agreed by all and can be implemented this system. Just to show people that even owners also part to sharing those huge losses.
1257  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: High karma reddit accounts on: December 19, 2016, 03:00:30 AM
Several accounts in stock - from 100 to 10k karma, from 1 to nine years old.
Buy one get one offer!
Bitcoin & Paypal & PerfectMoney accepted.

I'm interested in buying one or two high karma accounts if prices are reasonable. I have sent you a personal message. Please send me those details and let's see whether we can have a deal on this or not. I want it for personal links to post so looking for very reasonable prices.
1258  Economy / Digital goods / Re: UBER Referral Free Rides ($3.5 each) 3 Vouch copies on: December 17, 2016, 03:22:13 AM
Two days back I sent you a personal message regarding another six more rides request but until now didn't receive any reply from you. Let me know if you can do it than I need few rides urgently. Please reply to my personal message ASAP. Thanks

Edit - I have placed for another 6 rides and received so far two rides.

Edit - Received all rides and payment sent -

Here is the proof - https://blockchain.info/tx/6c2645bd376610259bdb16f348499cfebe454a3763a9f8c26571e5a2cd30433b
1259  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] OTOHITS Points and Websyndic Account on: December 16, 2016, 11:52:18 PM
Bump

Just want to tell you that other people are selling around 0.2$ per million in this section. I also brought around 50 Million in total around that price. So if you want to get a deal for you then consider reducing prices to attract buyers. I just bought last week, and I can buy only after a couple of weeks.
1260  Economy / Services / Re: Bitsler Signature & Avatar Campaign (Earn up to .05/week)Sr member-Staff(FULL) on: December 16, 2016, 11:42:35 PM
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