So, when you own land in California, is it really your land like, say, a sofa is? I know that I can remove a cushion from my sofa. But can a landowner remove any oak tree from their parcel of land anywhere in California? If not, why not?
Hmm. Something is going on here. Maybe owning a parcel of land in California is not like owning a sofa.
You can take the cushion off the sofa, but god help you if you cut that tag off the cushion... So maybe land is like a sofa...if you are a 14-year-old trollmod. I'm a college student and the only person trolling here is you. You suck at it too. |
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tax undesirable things Like making lots of money? |
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Like I said, you advocate violence but you wish to blame others for "making you do it".
I advocate that you use common sense. You also advocate violence. |
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Dig as deep as you want into your philosophical thoughts, but that will not allow you to come up with an argument that you are morally justified in claiming that ownership of one class of thing is equivalent to ownership of another type of thing. You need to seriously question the assumptions you are building your arguments upon.
Start digging into your philosophical thoughts.  |
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I've never advocated any such thing. There are other means to collect money. Do you have first hand experience with the matter? You really know different ways of getting nuclear bomb or my property out of my possession other than with violence? Do tell. Geez. First of all, do you understand that the first goal is to prevent you from ever possessing such a device? Secondly, do you understand that if you willfully engage in risky behavior, bad things can happen? Suggestion: don't climb El Capitan without a proper belay. Suggestion: don't handle nuclear weapons. Suggestion: don't wander around in dark alleys at night. The key actions listed above, respectively are: climb, handle, wander. You know these things going in. You know the consequences. What happens is in your control. Like I said, you advocate violence but you wish to blame others for "making you do it". |
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Because those aren't the laws. Oh, I thought you were talking about the way things should be, not the way things are. Sofa != gun != land != animal != automobile != human != WMD != atmosphere != ocean != aquifer LOL Genius insight. |
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I've never advocated any such thing. There are other means to collect money. Do you have first hand experience with the matter? You really know different ways of getting nuclear bomb or my property out of my possession other than with violence? Do tell. |
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Ownership of land does not correlate with ownership of a sofa. Why not? |
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The fact that AyeYo has been there five years tells me just about all I need to know about that place. The fact that you seem so keen to change venues seems a little bizarre. Are you incapable of arguing without help? Why does it matter where we debate? Are you incapable of putting my ideas to the test by yourself? I'll let you spin this however you want but the fact remains, I'm here, argue if you want but do so respectfully or you'll be disregarded by me and won't be taken seriously. It's your choice.
That looks like you've made a decision to not go over there based on the environment you'd find yourself in. Allow me to quote you. you said that you wished to not engage in posting over there Which is clearly a lie. Nowhere in the post that you quoted do I say that. All I say is that, "I'm here, if you want to argue then do it". You might have interpreted it differently and in which case, I can correct your misunderstanding but don't just make up lies and claim I said something I did not. If and when I can make a post in the politics section, I will. I suggest you just wait until then before furthering this pointless derail. We're not speaking of the intentions of the mugger. Don't confuse the matter. We're talking about your decision making process. You've made a claim, and I'm calling you on it. You're trying to claim that you're going to end up being killed. I'm calling you on it. You're not even following the argument. I'm calling you on the fact that you do advocate killing people just as much as a mugger does. |
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we do have a post of yours here where you said that you wished to not engage in posting over there You're either lying or confused. I offered you a deal in post #882 and I let you run your mouth until post #945 when I finally revealed that I had registered hours earlier when were first discussing it. As I mentioned once but I guess I'll say it again, I can't start a thread or make a post in the politics section anyways so this whole "dare" amounts to absolutely nothing. Once again, I suspect that you won't ever let it come to that. So, in other words, you advocate it but you just don't think it will come to that. Much like a mugger doesn't think he'll have to shoot anyone. |
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When you say "By staying on your property", are you confusing owning a parcel of land with owning a book or a sofa? I take it that's your roundabout way of asserting that owning land and owning other kinds of property is different? Fine, what's your argument for that? |
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Yes I do. Money. Mouth. I consider living in a world where justice exists, to be a benefit. I guess some people would kill their own mother to save their skin. I can't change your mind if that's your point of view. I certainly won't have anything to do with it though.
Please demonstrate to me, by referencing any post I have ever made here, where I advocate the killing of any person. So what happens when I have a nuclear bomb on my property and I don't just hand it over? What happens when I don't pay my taxes? You're going to send me a nasty letter? Fine, I'll ball it up and toss it in my trashcan. I doubt it will end there though. Ultimately, all laws are threats of imprisonment or death. If you don't understand that then you have no business saying what should and shouldn't be a law. |
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By continuing to post in this thread, you agree with me.
Really? Absurd isn't it? I agree. Just as absurd as saying, "by staying on your own property, you're agreeing to be taxed". |
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cryptocurrency with solid GPU resistance Why would we care about that? |
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Omg democracy is unworkable because people could vote to allow the juggling of smallpox on front lawns! That pretty much sums it up. For example, statism has lead to slavery, genocide, war, two nuclear bombs dropped on Japanese cities, etc. The whole "come up with something better" argument is nonsense. Both systems have their imperfections. The flaws of statism are written in blood. At least libertarianism has the ideal of justice built into it from the start. |
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By staying where you are, you agree that I can do whatever I want.
LOL!!! YES! That's exactly my point! Cool. So I can do whatever I want. Thanks. By continuing to post in this thread, you agree with me. |
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Imagine that, reality isn't utopia. It's up to you to prove that you can offer something better. So far no one can handle that task. Only because you stick your fingers in your ears and go "LA-LA-LA". Justice is better. Even if the entire universe explodes unless we violate someone's rights, justice is better. You have your answer. You may not like it but stop pretending that you haven't been given an answer. If you continue to deny that, it will be transparent. |
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Why Afghaniland?
I've been pointing out Somolia as the ultimate libertopian paradise for quite awhile now. None of these guys seem to be getting up and moving though. I wonder why?
We shouldn't have to. And I shouldn't have to move away if someone nextdoor to me decides to purchase a nuke, but you don't seem to agree with that. You can stay where you are voluntarily, in which case you're agreeing to all taxation, implied contracts and obligations, etc. or you can choose to move to libertarian utopia: Somolia. By staying where you are, you agree that I can do whatever I want. |
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What's the cheapest programmable device with some integrated storage, an integrated input method, and some way of interfacing with a real computer? The cheapest devices fitting this criteria I know of are the TI-8x calculators, but it seems that there should be cheaper ones.
The cheapest programmable devices are microcontrollers. They can interface with computers using serial communications. They cost only a couple of dollars. If you want something along those lines but a little bit easier, check out the Arduino. |
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I consider living in a world where justice exists, to be a benefit. I guess some people would kill their own mother to save their skin. I can't change your mind if that's your point of view. I certainly won't have anything to do with it though.
You're going to have to define your version of justice. Living in a world where millions die for a pulled-from-ass "right" for anyone to own a nuke isn't justice by any definition familar to anyone on this planet. Living in a world where trivial, pointless "rights" like the "right" to own a nuke and the "right" to juggle knives on a life raft supercede real, substantial rights like the right to life isn't justice by any definition that any mentally stable person is familiar with. Oh, and you still have answered neither my nor hawker's questions.Let me spell it out for you. J-U-S-T-I-C-E It's worth more than anything. |
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