I'm against welfare for the rich and poor alike. Here's a novel idea. Live off of what you can earn through free trade or receive through charity. No wait, that would require whining parasites to actually fend for themselves. We can't have any personal responsibility. If you want to give your money away then have at it but just because you have some wild hare up your ass doesn't mean you speak for everyone else.

That's a complete non sequitur. What does that have to do with anything?


I never said that the market "will always choose gold". Where do you come up with that? I said that, in a truly free market, the market prefers gold and by that, I mean gold backed currency. Give someone the option for paper backed by gold and paper backed by nothing and they'll choose the gold backed currency. That's historically speaking and this isn't a truly free market. When there is a truly free market again, the market could settle on palladium. I predict it won't, however.

Get used to it. I'll destroy your idiotic arguments any day.

LOL @ ad hominem fallacy.

Because of legal tender laws and Gresham's law.

You can write a contract and specify payment in gold but if the other party doesn't pay and you sue them, you're required to accept payment in legal tender. You can't say "but I wanted gold!" Likewise, since you are forced to take legal tender if you want protection from the courts, according to Gresham's law, people would rather save their gold and pass off their paper currency to you. All of this serves to reduce the amount of gold in circulation as money and we get to the state of affairs like today where very few people could even pay in gold without first buying some with paper. That makes it hugely inconvenient and businesses don't want to shrink their market share. Remove the legal tender laws and have courts honor gold contracts and then you can make an argument. As it stands, when there is a truly free market, without government threats, the market prefers gold. You claim to be big on evidence so let's not ignore thousands of years of history.

There's nothing magical about it. Gold and silver have thousands of years of historically being accepted as money therefore it's likely to continue that way. Whenever the free market decides what it will use as money, it settles on gold and to a lesser degree, silver and other metals. That's what I'm more interested in, free market money, rather than any specific metal. Let the market decide. Historically, it's been gold. What's the point in trying to fight that? Just so you can seem sophisticated?

The problem has returned. I'm trying to figure out what exactly the problem is. I'll keep this thread updated as I figure it out.

It's bad enough that you're wrong, that's forgivable, but being an arrogant douche about it is just pathetic.

A government bond is a loan to the government. There is a difference between savings and a loan. If you think that an IOU is a form of wealth, you're an idiot.

Think before you post.

I don't know why you even still bother talking to him. I gave up on him long ago. Every now and then I'll read one of his posts but I always regret it so I just avoid him altogether. I recommend you do the same.

The problem is you're just using a vague term "centralization" without describing exactly what's being centralized. Would the FBI benefit if all of their people were centralized to a single (very large) room? No. Would the FBI benefit if all of their data was centralized to a single network? Yes. Centralization is good and bad, depending on what's being centralized. As long as you're being vague, you won't reach any meaningful conclusions.

I'm a college student and I just got done with finals so I went to Cedar Point to celebrate. You caught me just as I left town for the weekend. I've replied to all emails. I'm looking into the situation.


The political opinions I espouse and the debates I participate in have absolutely nothing to do with my business dealings. If you don't use my service because you're not a Libertarian, that's your choice but it shouldn't matter.


Check your inbox. Also, I didn't do anything manually. It must have went through but for some reason the host's load balancer didn't properly display the results. I am alerted whenever the backend isn't working and I haven't gotten any alerts. I'm thinking that it's something to do with our host. I'm looking into the issue now.

I don't care what's "better". What's right? Stealing from people or not stealing from people?

Relax. I'm sure it's neither. There's actually a very subtle distinction between force and energy and not everyone understands physics enough to know the difference. People see a magnet sticking to their refrigerator and think that it must be doing some kind of work to to stay there when it's not. Common sense tells them they should be able to harness that into something that can provide energy. It hardly makes anyone a total idiot, just slightly ignorant of physics which we are all guilty of, unless of course you understand quantum chromodynamics, etc.

Since you ignored me, let me ask again...


Which kind of socialism? Coercive and violent socialism or voluntary and peaceful socialism?


If you made $375k a year and you "owed" $100k on that, you'd know how much that stings and you'd get the feeling that the hate for the rich goes a lot deeper than just the billionaires. It's a fucking joke and I resent it like hell.

No, I haven't and I'm glad because apparently being poor makes you quite stupid. Actually, it's more likely that being stupid leads to being poor. There's a correlation there at least. Either way, you can assure me all you like but you're wrong. The justice system is being utilized by the poor more often because they have a higher crime rate and there are more of them. So, naturally, they should pay for what they use instead of free-riding off of the rich.

Which kind of socialism? Coercive and violent socialism or voluntary and peaceful socialism?

Children have the same rights as adults as soon as they demand to be treated as such, which includes taking care of their own survival. A child that claims to have the same rights as a parent but still expects to be fed and clothed and looked after isn't much of an adult.

A handful of regulations being removed while leaving the rest in place and calling it "deregulation" is like a few people dying of old age and calling it "depopulation".

Right because you don't use any of that. I forgot about the fact that I get a police escort every time I go to the bank. Oh wait, I don't. If I want any extra security, I have to pay for that.

How many rich neighborhoods have the cops there daily making arrests vs. poor neighborhoods? Many of us live in gated communities with a private guard at the gate. We don't need the cops there.

How many court appearances are by the poor after raping, robbing or driving around drunk, etc vs. the rich? As for the military, I don't see how any of us benefits from murdering people on the other side of the planet. The only thing we need is a coastguard and a few nukes pointed at anyone thinking of launching theirs at us.


So, pay money or get assaulted or stolen from? That's called extortion. If I want extra security, I'll pay for it, just like I already do.


Like I said, I don't have any employees. My infrastructure consists of a few web servers which I pay for and a computer at home, which I also pay for. Some companies may use a lot of a resources but that doesn't translate to every millionaire being the owner of one of those companies.

I don't have any employees. I only do business with customers directly through my website or with other businesses such as payment processors. Try again.

Even if I did have employees, they use public services whether or not I hire them. In fact, since they aren't on welfare and food stamps, because I gave them a job, they are using less public services. You don't actually have a clue what you're talking about. You haven't done any kind of calculations. You're just pulling these claims out of your ass.


Their "share" is only what they've used in services. They don't owe you anything extra. Stop being a leech and support yourself. Newflash: having a few million dollars is not a big deal and it certainly doesn't put me in league with the fantasy rich fatcat robber barrens you've gotten yourself in a frenzy over. I don't take government handouts. I'm not lobby congress to get special favors. I'd be more than happy to pay for what I use but I'm expected to pay many times more than that because of people like you that are simply jealous of success.