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1  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana cara mengubah bitcoin menjadi cash tanpa lewat crypto exchange indones on: Today at 02:03:35 AM
Cara simpel dan gak ribet menurut ane itu lewat p2p tapi ya gitu sekarang p2p yang rate bagus itu cuman di cex misal bybit okx dan binen yang wajib kyc semisal agan concern dengan kyc

Kalau lewat p2p itu transaksi yang masuk ke kita jadi kayak transferan biasa aja gan dan menurut ane aman asal transaksinta gak terlalu jumbo amat
Kalau ane lihat di tv dan youtube di luar negeri mah enak kita bisa transaksi langsung crypto tanpa meng-cash-kan lagi ke fiat. Jadi peran exchange, baik itu cex mau pun p2p tidak berlaku lagi, pengen sih dan pernah ngimpi kalau mau beli sesuatu di mini market atau mall cukup scan dan bayar pakai crypto, sehingga praktis dan tidak perlu lagi menukarnya dengan fiat yang kena fee 2x. Tapi, tentu saja ini tidak bisa diberlakukan di indonesia karena terkait regulasi mata uang, kalau di negara lain kayak denmark dan rusia mungkin bisa, karena mereka Melegalkan bitcoin untuk transaksi pembayaran. Ya setidaknya kalau pun tidak ada pembayaran, minimal dibikinlah ATM yang membuat real kalau crypto itu memang ada dan sama kayak pembayaran lainnya, karena selama ini anggapan orang crypto itu tidak nyata dan berada di awang-awang online saja.

Nah itu gan  Grin Grin ane juga pengen banget semisal nih ya Indonesia dalam artian pemerintah disini bikin stablecoin resmi dan bisa bayar pake crypto ane mah langsung gas aja bayar ini itu pake kripto wkwkkw tapi bakalan susah dan banyak aturan yang harus di lewati semisal mereka bikin stablecoin versi mereka sendiri.

ane juga setuju semisal ada bitcoin atm jadi semisal mau depo atau wd bisa ke indomaret atau alfamart kan jatuhnya sama kek p2p kan ntar untuk sekarang cuman bisa berangan angan

dan yang terakhir ane pengen ada crypto debit card yang bisa di pake di indonesia jadi kita bayar pake crypto tapi lewat perantara visa atau mastercard setau ane ada banyak btc debit card cuman biasanya gak tersedia di negara tercinta kita
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cash out or let it ride? on: Today at 01:59:10 AM
are u had luck in a year and put it on that game  Grin is that a winning streak $1,500 to return nearly $100,000 If I were you Im going to cash out 85% of it and let it ride the rest dude you literally generate 100K that is a lot of money and don't let the greed eat your body right now I mean if you win again you probably earn more but cash out is also needed in my opinion.  Grin

Tho if you had the confident cash out 85% and you can still play with the 25% and if you had the luck to you probably can earn 100K again in the next game hahah

3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Your Country Who Gamble More? Young Ones or Elderly Ones on: Today at 01:54:49 AM
In Your Country Who Gamble More? Young Ones or Elderly Ones

In my country slot games are very popular and it has become a headline news in all over the place



By looking at that image you can see that here in Indonesia there are more than 200K players in slot Ironically, this figure is dominated by young people in the 17-20 year age range. the news said like that so the young ones I believe who gamble more

https://www.jambione.com/news/1364589574/waduhindonesia-peringkat-1-dunia-terbanyak-pemain-judi-online-segini-jumlahnya-ini-dampaknya-dan-langkah-pemerintah
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamers using demo account on: Today at 01:50:59 AM
Streamers using demo accounts this is a little bit of a conspiracy but here in my country slot streamers with no face usually win a lot of money and of course the balance said it is real money with no "demo" word in any of the screen but when i watch streamer usually they had ton of luck. Yes some people believe that might actually a demo account filled with fake money by the gambling provider and give a huge win but I don't know how and this just become a discussion by some people who watch that streamer.

Since they using a mask no face and playing a slot on a new site so most of people don't believe in it.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Buy a Bonus VS playing Slot on normal Spin - which do you prefer? on: Today at 01:46:15 AM
In normal days I would play slot on regular spin so just normal spin and when money is at the last drip I usually buy a bonus spin both are actually same in my opinion all depend on the luck hahahha last time bet on mahjong buy bonus spin but still won nothing hahaha

With all due respect to everyone's choices, which are certainly not the same and some of them may lack logic, but I actually consider all slot games a waste of time and a waste of money without any satisfactory benefits.

Yeah and it is your choice some people just like playing slot heck the game is very popular most of the gambling site has it take example of duelbits now the site had lot of slot provider and each provider had bunch of game. Tho playing game is consider as waste of time and i mean by all game not just slot but most people found it playing game is fun including slot
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: AFC Asian Cup 2023/24 -- betting/match discussion only on: Today at 01:41:02 AM
I thought there is no thread that discussed the Asian Cup I was gonna make a new thread and finally I found one Yesterday was the match for the 3rd place Iraq vs Indonesia with the final score of 2-1 Damnnnnn I just hope Indonesia win this time at least at the third place but Iraq won at the extra time.

7  Economy / Economics / Re: Harmful effect of robot to the world. on: May 02, 2024, 12:30:06 PM
To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough. My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed
human are still needed to watch out how the robots in general operate as well as doing the creative work that are needed, gone the days where doing mundane task of repeatable activity such as rolling dough already.
this means, learning skill and being an expert at it is the way even more so for mechatronics, electrical engineering and so on, this world is the world that favour STEM graduates.

I agree with human are still needed to watch out how the robots in general operate but now human is needed to watch out and robot do all the things I know the reason is robot doing repeatable activity and push human to more creative and create new job but not all person have higher education IMO

Whoa! That's a bit too extreme, I'd say. You are simply overthinking it and making it sound like a problem too big which it isn't. It's real life and not a movie where robots and Artificial Intelligence take over the human race and want to have and control the world by themselves. That is only possible in fiction and not in reality because in reality, robots require maintenance, artificial intelligence doesn't operate by itself but it requires data to operate and it's us who do all that work for those machines and programs to work properly.

hahahha yeah maybe am bit too extreme and overthink right now but robot AI and stuff is getting smarter day by day I even look an AI create a short Movie and some music don't you think this crazy

not all countries will accept robots as workers in factories in their country, there will definitely be strict regulations regarding the use of robots in factories and employers are obliged to comply with that.

Yep they need to regulate or else factory gonna have 80% robot and yes not all countries is accepting robot but I heard tesla making car using almost all robot from stamping the aluminum sheet welding and paint job
for that we still have time to get better and try hard to get passive income from other sources.

I hope I get passive income next year  Grin
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is the game 'Fortune Tiger' or the little tiger game famous in your region? on: May 02, 2024, 01:46:24 AM
Do u mean this a slot game from the PG I never played it before heck I just barely knew it from you the slot game that is popular in my country are zeus and mahjong people play these games and win a lot but nowadays my friend said that Pragmatic play didn't give any jackpot for couple day so they moved to PG but I never saw people play this game
Hmm thanks for mentioning these, I'll look into it more.

Do most slot games work basically the same way? Is Tiger just one of the thousands of slots that exist?

Do most slot games work basically the same way in a simple term yes and if you well is close to win When you spin a modern slot machine, it generates a random number for each reel to figure out which symbol to show. A reel might have 3 blank spots and 1 jackpot symbol, but that doesn’t mean that you’re only 3 times as likely to get a blank spot.

But, even the blank spots aren’t evenly weighted. Let’s say that a machine’s random number generator is configured to show a blank spot on any internal result from 1–16. The blank next to the jackpot symbol is probably weighted more heavily than the others - maybe *that* blank shows up from 1–9, and the other two blanks get 10–12 and 13–16. - https://www.quora.com/Are-slot-machines-programmed-to-inveigle-the-player-with-almost-wins-or-close-calls-that-would-normally-not-occur

Is Tiger just one of the thousands of slots that exist? Yes basically all same you push the button and behind the scenes everything is almost same when you hit some pattern you win the game and win the money
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Claw Machines: a category of gambling? on: May 02, 2024, 01:43:21 AM
~SNIP~

So you mean, It's real that some claw machine has been set up? that's why sometimes there's a low chance of winning because the claw didn't work well even if you already placed it correctly in your target item. If that's the case, They tricked their customer in order to play more and more until they get at least 1 item from that machine, It is considered as a type of mini gambling and just a normal game at the same time because it gives us an exciting and interesting game while spending A lot of money.
I think it is pretty much a fact this is the case, if not then a skilled player could win most of the time by simply getting better at manipulating the claw, so the owners of those machines need to find a way to counter those players, and the way to do that is by manipulating the strength of the claw, this way it does not matter how much skilled a person may get when using the claw, as if the claw itself is not working properly, then they have no way to win no matter what they do.

Yeah South park already tell you the truth a claw machine has been a set up. the owner of claw machine did that I mean at the end of the day all of this is just for a profit and that it if you want to give some free stuff that fine you can make the claw even tighter and stronger maybe no skilled required for it.

Hahaha skilled player is everywhere and people who want to profit is also everywhere this is just business and people who play it sometimes just do it for fun and test their luck
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you advise a friend in the same way? on: May 02, 2024, 01:35:04 AM
So let me summarize you had a friend whose dad is old and own a pile of cash in the bank and a company right? Did your friend need advice from you or this is just your initiative. I mean if the business is running well you can use the money in the bank to grow the company without bitcoin. Just tell them there is bitcoin + and - of it and let him decide, if you friend think forward he might consider to buy some bitcoin

I mean, there is nothing wrong with providing advice but it is important to make sure that the person receiving advise understands all the risks and everything involved with the investment suggested. So if a person is suggesting Bitcoin investments to a friend for his company, he needs to tell him both the positive and negative consequences of the investment so that if things so south in the future, he doesn't get blamed for his suggestion.

If I was suggesting something as volatile and unpredictable as Bitcoin to my friend, I would tell him straightaway that I do have some investment advice but I want him to know that there are risks involved in it, and then I would urge him to do some research about it and decide for himself and I won't be responsible for anything negative that might happen if he makes an investment in it because it will be his own decision.

it is important to make sure that the person receiving advise understands all the risks and everything involved with the investment suggested this is number one priority in my opinion tell him both the positive and negative consequences of the investment are also a good move

The point is that when you give some kind of financial advise to someone, especially a friend, to really have to stress about one thing: that person needs to do his own research. You need to give a hint, the first suggestion and a brief explanation of the reasons you think behind your choice of investing in bitcoin (or something else) but everyone is different so maybe a good reason for me could be a bad reason for you.

I agree with Ale that the person really need his own research first before go all in hence before he made any investment all we do is only give him a hint the good and the bad ane let he decide the final decision.
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: Hit the MAX WIN on Zeus vs Hades—$240K payout in crypto! 🚀🚀🚀 on: May 02, 2024, 01:31:44 AM
F*ck is that even real  Shocked Shocked 240K win with 16$ bet is that really true friend you must be a super lucky people on earth I mean on that site hehe. But why you go here after win such a big amount you are not from the gambling site and play some marketing arent you.

It is a bonus buy so @OP spent around $1200 or $2400 (as a regular bonus buy)depending on who he chooses to play as.  But yes it is still a huge win and life-changing in my country.  Well wether he is doing marketing or not is up to him, but sharing this kind of winnings is a refreshing thing for people who are in a losing streak  Cheesy.  Congratulations on the huge win @OP.


Hell yeah dude that was the one moment time and gonna life change forever 240K in my country you can literally bough a nice home full furnished and it only cost you less than 100K and you can add one nice car filled with house with fun and still save up to 40% and you didn't need to work till you die how crazy is that right.

yeah congrat for the OP if he know that is huge money he just create money for life haha
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Rise of eSports Betting on: May 02, 2024, 01:27:04 AM
SNIP
Just like the traditional athletes, esports players are well compensated depending on the organization or team that they are part of.
The more sponsors their organization gets, the more money they get and that means stable money for them. There's not that much different for how they earn money aside from the tournament prizes and sponsorships.
They could also have their own personal brand deals and I think that the pandemic as well did really drove more people into esports that means more computers, and demand of it and means more money in the actual gaming scene.

esports players are well-compensated this is very true I just do quick google searched and Esports players can earn well, with the top players making millions of dollars per year. The average salary for esports players is $50,000–$60,000 annually, not including tournament prize earnings. However, salaries vary by team and player, and can depend on the player's ability, the game they play, and other factors. Tho it depend on many factor but still  the make a good money from it

It’s about time for the eSports to get the spotlight and also the recognition, it has been a great years for them and I believe with the growing support and the growing players, they might hit the main stream as well. Since the pandemic many reset their lives and playing online seems to be there only option to have fun during that time and yeah probably that scenario affects the popularity of eSports, I’m into eSports as well and I can tell that its really fun to bet and play at the same time.

and now there is betting for esport so the spotlight and recognition are not gonna stop here and the grow will be tremendous just wait and see for now

The surge in e-sports has indeed occurred; This has been the case in recent years, and COVID-19 may have even thrust the industry further into the limelight. What may have been the informal beginnings of e-sports among friends globally is now emerging as a billion-dollar industry, attracting interest from a variety of parties, including traditional sportsbooks and e-sports betting platforms.

With continued growth and greater recognition, it seems that e-sports will remain firmly established as part of modern sports culture, and will become an issue in itself that is interesting enough to spread to global platforms.

I agree with that that eSports Betting is now getting continued growth and greater recognition and now become as part of modern sports culture and I don't see the trend getting down from now on.

13  Economy / Economics / Re: Harmful effect of robot to the world. on: April 28, 2024, 11:33:10 AM
To be honest I quite agree with you back then all manufacturers using human as the gear of the company to keep moving but if you got a modern factory in almost every country robots are being used as simple as rolling the dough. My concern actually same what happen with human later most the media news said that new job will emerge but in the world with AI robot and quantum computer I dont know if human would be needed
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's the biggest airdrop you've ever received? on: April 28, 2024, 11:27:20 AM
What's the biggest airdrop you've ever received? I dont know maybe 300$ that is the biggest I got probably from the crypto airdrop bounty is around 2K max tho today I also looking good airdrop but never touch like K with triple zero I hope this year I earn more from crypto airdrop. The airdrop is different with you buy some memecoin and turned 1K into million airdrop is a task and you get paid from it.

So I hope atleast there I been airdropped 10K this year haha
15  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is Uncle Gary leaving the SEC? on: April 28, 2024, 11:18:00 AM
No I dont think the great honor of MR Gary gonna leave this space I mean hahhaha he seems like SEC so much and the SEC seems to hate crypto much without Gary this crypto world gonna feel so plain.  Grin

Hahaha but seriously tho those twitter might be indication when someone are going to leave/resign but If mr gary resign I hope SEC had a new leader who like crypto a lot
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Miners revenues drop to the lowest in years as Runes fomo fades away on: April 28, 2024, 11:13:15 AM
Since the ASIC was invented I believe that home miners are going away I mean this chip is fast and sooner or later people are going to farm it and now Bitcoin mining has become a big industry.

Even tho ASIC manufacturers today are going to make more efficient chip the price are going to expensive and we home miner might can order it 1-2 pcs and arrive in 3 month. Im also not miner but I hope Im being miner someday hahhah small right with 100 machine is enough for me to living a life
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the number of new investors reduce? on: April 28, 2024, 10:56:18 AM
As long there is baby being born the number of new investors will never be reduced Grin hahaha.

Why do you think the number of new investors going down bro In fact after covid hit more people are joining the investor family not in crypto alone but in almost instrument if you watch the news because people know Invest on something is a good tool to prepare in bad scenario and this is happen to crypto the halving migh already done but I dont think this gonna stop the new investore to take a look about crypto and bitcoin industry.

Kevin O leary from the Shark tank said that Bitcoin or Crypto industry gonna be the next industry to join the S&P 500 so I dont think this gonna be stopped now
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How has Satoshi's identity never been revealed ? on: April 28, 2024, 10:49:10 AM
i was a true geek and he knew everything about the privacy, and anonymity, and when he created and released that anonymity and privacy he did it carefully so no one could actually know his true identity. I know that each organization has some predictions about him but no one actually know who Satoshi was.

I totally agree with SamReomo that Satoshi is a true geek and he knew about privacy and anonymity he probably still alive right now and still watch bitcoin goes up and down but he decided to stay hidden, If I were satotshi Im would do exactly the same like this by watching the world pace forward while keeping the distance I mean there is no really benefit to show up right now and maybe there are people know about this satoshi but they also keep their mouth shut.

Even tho Government has a tool to reveal the satoshi and then what he is not a criminal so why bother ? Right?
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you advise a friend in the same way? on: April 27, 2024, 10:28:39 AM
So let me summarize you had a friend whose dad is old and own a pile of cash in the bank and a company right? Did your friend need advice from you or this is just your initiative. I mean if the business is running well you can use the money in the bank to grow the company without bitcoin. Just tell them there is bitcoin + and - of it and let him decide, if you friend think forward he might consider to buy some bitcoin
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you increasing your bitcoin investments because of today halving ? on: April 27, 2024, 10:22:11 AM
Bitcoin halving has occured and the price seems hit a correction my portfolio today is 100% altcoin and now Is bleeding hard  Grin I like buying on top this is my mistake I just assume after halving occur we are gonna se bitcoin reach 75K-80K and the altcoin would be carried aswell but the truth is I buy alt on top bitcoin start to fell and altcoin start to drop

But if you guys have money Buying bitcoin now is still worth I mean the ATH is around 70K ish and I believe it could go higher at the end of 2024
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